My Idea - I'd like to build Niche Affililate sites and sell them on Flippa

Selling websites? Unless you plan on selling sites which have produced some income in the last few months, selling sites especially the ones with no income, is NOT so easy.

See that throws me. If I'm going to wait until a site has income......I'm not selling it.

Solid model.

The heart and soul of the model is developing "income sites." And these sites need dependable, organic traffic, yielding proven income statistics that aren't about to diminish anytime soon. Anyone can put together a site. Not everyone can grow an income site. If you can, then it's a sturdy, viable way to make a living.

Tom

Tom/zdebx, I'm sure you know what you are talking about and I'll take your word for it. It seems "marketers" would be the ones to make the site profitable. Wouldn't they want a steady stream of sites to market? I'm just a mealy ole programmer so I haven't a clue about "making the money" all I nkow about it building sites. Tired of being the grunt under someone elses thumb. I want the hell out.

Dad2four,

The fact remains, there are way more Internet marketers successful at creating and putting sites online than there are marketers that know how to drive consistent traffic and generate income from it.

You can purchase all kinds of site templates in a given market, put them up on a WordPress platform, and have your web site up and running very quickly. You can buy bundles of niche sites for a song. They are being sold everywhere.

The bigger challenge, and the reason people pay way more for sites that get consistent traffic and generate income . . . is because that's the more difficult chore and the one that eludes most people.

I'm not saying you can't flip brand new sites . . . but if you choose that path you will have tons of competition and your income probably won't be much for each site - it may not be worth the time involved to create the site.

Good luck to you,

Steve

Flippa offer the largest market in wich you can sell your site.
the problem is that often you finish to sell off your work, especially when the site hasn't already a good income.

However you can try in throught these alternatives:

- Flippa
- Sedo
- Ebay

There's big money in it. It's the business model that supported me and my family for almost 4 years.

Here's how I did it, though. Keep in mind I had a team of 22 virtual assistants towards the end.

I would setup 10 sites at a time (usually a lot more every time lol)

From those, 2 would really poke their heads up. I'm talking $100 per month in the first month.

Those became "portfolio" sites. I held onto them, built out keyword strategies and went to work scaling.

There would be a few (usually 3-5) that wouldn't make jack. Maybe $10 their first month. Those are the sites that got flipped.

The sites in between were watched closely. I never made decisions on flipping or keeping a site unless it showed huge promise in the first month, or was at least 3 months old.

Each month I'd shoot a handful of links at each of the new 10 sites. Then at the end of the month check their rankings and earnings. Regroup them into one of the three categories: #1 instant flip, quit spending money. #2 Possible flip / possible keep, go forward. #3 Scale that ******* and milk it.

Flipping a handful of sites earning $10-$20 a month covered the expenses from building all 10 sites. Setup, content, links. You can easily fetch 10x earnings for a $20 a month site.

After the mediocre sites were a few months old, it was time to dissect them. If I thought they could show promise either by jumping their rankings up a few notches, or by going wider in the niche, I would keep them and add them to my portfolio sites.

If a site was earning more than a couple hundred a month, it could support itself and was worth keeping -- shooting $100 worth of links and content at it every month.

If it wasn't, it hit the chopping block.

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I didn't start this overnight. When I let my domains expire I had 450 of them sitting in my Name.com account. I lost track of how many I bought, built, and sold.

The model is solid.

Flip the sites quickly that show no signs of promise.

Watch the sites closely that could be easily improved by going wider, or focusing your link building and jumping their main rankings up a bit.

Keep your instant winners in your portfolio and guard them with your life.

Here's a system you can use to quickly crank out dozens of sites a month, and a way to automatically build links if you have a budget. Your risk, your reward. That whole testicular fortitude, your business thing. Blah blah. Anyway.

Find the keywords in Long Tail Pro. Anything under 25KC and more than 3,000 searches per month. The more commercial intent the better. Keywords with "best" or "reviews" in them are perfect.

For content, get your required pages on the site, add (5) articles solving problems, another (5) reviews based off the Amazon sales page, a table comparing the top 10 best selling products, or an "ultimate" guide with adsense in it, along with a badass homepage that covered a few different keywords and stuck the visitor to it like glue.

It's a personal choice but I don't stick Amazon affiliate links on the homepage. It's leaving money on the table, but I want to rank as easily as possible.

For links, use The Hoth. It's $60 a month for a pack of 3 beefed up links and they work. $60 per month per site. That's why you need a budget.

If you want to save the $60 per site and bootstrap it, get yourself FCS Networker, GSA Search Ranker, and some proxies, and go to town. Eventually build your own PBN to use for your 1st tier links, with FCS as your 2nd and GSA pumping your 3rd.

To make money, KISS. Keep it simple silly. Use AdSense and Amazon.

The more time you waste on each aspect, the less you make per hour.

Sell your first few on Flippa to get a list of buyers. Then bail on Flippa as quick as possible since you're flipping lower earning sites and the fees eat up your profits.

People don't like buying money making sites that were listed publicly either. You'll get 20x earnings to the right buyers in the right markets.

And don't make the mistake of thinking only affiliate marketers or beginners are buying the sites. I sold quite a few to eCommerce sites, investors, bloggers, spammers, you name it. They all had different reasons for buying.

Anyway, I'm rambling now. I hope you can glean something from this.

Oh yeah, and don't expect it to last forever. Manage your money while you're making it.

Good post and while this seems like a great idea to make a huge chunk of change at once, you are still trading all of the time and work that it took to build up a successful site in the 1st place. I think I would rather have a passive income that was bringing in a few hundred dollars a month from adsense, amazon, clickbank, cpas, hosting etc. Seems to me that you just need to have multiple streams of income and to be willing to put in the time that it takes to succeed online. This might take 1-2 years to really get on autopilot with free traffic from Google but eventually you'll be glad that you decided to stick with building it up. Best of luck and remember to just never ever give up

Anyone can make a site and sell it. But it's worthless without traffic and income.

yeah. Not by choice, though. I was way too aggressive with my link building. Using 60% exact match. It burned to the ground over the course of 5 months. That was in 2012 -- Google pretty much used my portfolio to figure out their algorithms lol.

After it burnt down me and my business partner split ways. I went through a depression, lost another business, went through a divorce, and now I've spent 7 months testing, re-learning, and getting my offline business' ducks in a row before I jump back into rebuilding the empire.

It's coming though.

Yeah I am. Right now my time is going to the project that lands me the biggest bankroll the fastest.

I put in 12-18 hours a day 7 days a week though, so I have to be able to move through a couple different projects or I get bored. I'm open to any arbitrage model.

I definitely learned a lot from the mistakes I made. Round 2 is going to be huge.

I'm building my offline consulting and learning email marketing (the blog you're talking about). It's only about a week old, so I'm posting what I'm working on each day.

That happens to be scraping emails and sending out bulk proposals for services at the moment.

My business is a mix of offline consulting, affiliate/email marketing (that blog), and another niche blog empire.

My long term goal is to build 1 huge site around men, using subdomains as niche communities and then using niche blogs as PBN sites. That's still a couple years off, probably. Then selling ad space to millions of pageviews each month on my network. A boy can dream, right? That's going to take a hefty budget and a nice sized team to make happen.

Here's a post I wrote about niche sites in 2015: How to build links to niche sites in 2015.

I probably won't be posting much niche site content on there for a little while. It's a pretty hit or miss business model, that's why you've gotta setup so many to see winners, so it's kinda rough to really teach to people.

I have expertise and the experience you need to build such sites, I have even a positive feedback on flippa. If you have specific questions feel free to ask me.

If I was starting over from scratch, Amazon and Adsense would be the way to go. So easy to monetize with. You can try Viglinks. I'd plan on moving away from them after a year or something, though.

Starting over with experience, and really wanting to make money with them I'd be using them to build email lists and start sending out promotions automatically.

And they probably wouldn't get flipped -- if you can hit send and make money, why get rid of it?

A lot of people are doing this already.

Take a look at their ads on Flippa and figure out the winners.

Reverse engineer your way to success

I have tried selling sites on flippa before. Since I am good at building nice blog sites.

But I was not able to find success there. As many mentioned here already, if the site is not receiving a nice daily traffic flow (organic traffic) - it will be very hard to sell.

You would have to learn how to build up some daily traffic flow to the site - and then try to sell it.

The site's traffic flow is one of the main things interested buyers look at - before even considering buying a site.

If flipping sites is something you would love to do and are very passionate about - to make a living online - I would recommend you to learn as much internet marketing as possible. It will help you build up some traffic to the websites you want to flip.

I hope this helps you man!

niche dating site is a good option you can work on

dad2four, if you do choose to go ahead with it, are you planning on using expired domains so you can take advantage of their history?

I think you should, as long as you can find the right ones for your niche. Just make sure that you really do your homework on each one before you start building the site b/c what you don't know can definitely hurt you. Always look into: Moz stats, Majestic stats, Wayback snapshots, SPAM, geo location history & keyword history.

I'd suggest using a domain crawler that grabs all that info for you, lets you compare a bunch of sites at once and offers high quality sites for a lot less than those highway robbers over at Go Daddy. You'll want to make sure to rebuild the site with its archive files as well - crawlers like domainreanimator (dot) com will actually do that for you.

Hope it works out for you!

I have seen that type of sites being sold as turn-key business, so i am pretty sure that once you'll get a hang of it, you will start seeing sales