Kindle Book Publishing

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I've been doing some looking around for information about making a passive income with Kindle books. I'm not really a writer so I would need a ghost writer. Are there some good sites out there about how to have Kindle books written and how to find a good niche audience to sell to?
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  • Originally Posted by greektitan View Post

    I've been doing some looking around for information about making a passive income with Kindle books. I'm not really a writer so I would need a ghost writer. Are there some good sites out there about how to have Kindle books written and how to find a good niche audience to sell to?
    Hey see if ===>>this thread <<=== helps you
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    There's a Kindle subforum run by Bryan Kumar right here on WF. Well worth it. Full of How To courses with everything you need.
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    • Profile picture of the author ayapana
      Hi Jason (or anyone else who reads this) I just came across this thread... not on the forum much, can you please post the link to this Kindle Subforum by Kumar?

      Thank you

      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      There's a Kindle subforum run by Bryan Kumar right here on WF. Well worth it. Full of How To courses with everything you need.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by ayapana View Post

        Hi Jason (or anyone else who reads this) I just came across this thread... not on the forum much, can you please post the link to this Kindle Subforum by Kumar?

        Thank you
        It's on the main page under Private Forums...

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-book-club/

        There is a membership fee, but well worth it.
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        • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
          Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

          It's on the main page under Private Forums...

          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-book-club/

          There is a membership fee, but well worth it.
          How do you pay to get access to this forum? Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author Frankie B Frank
            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

            How do you pay to get access to this forum? Thanks!
            Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm in the war room...but cannot see any way to join the Warrior Book Club / Kindle publishing and marketing.
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            • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
              Originally Posted by Frankie B Frank View Post

              Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm in the war room...but cannot see any way to join the Warrior Book Club / Kindle publishing and marketing.
              No, no one has answered yet. I'd love to join this forum. I'm a War Room member and I can't find any way to access the Warrior Book Club. PM me if you find out and I'll do the same for you.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tom Gates
                Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

                No, no one has answered yet. I'd love to join this forum. I'm a War Room member and I can't find any way to access the Warrior Book Club. PM me if you find out and I'll do the same for you.
                i was waiting for a staff member to respond. dont look like that is happenin so.

                the wso page for warrior book club got deactivated. bryan said he contacted helpdesk but nothing came of it.

                if you want to join, you can go to the warrior forum main order page:

                http://www.warriorforum.com/payments.php

                its the 4th option from the top on that page.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Check out the warrior for hire section

    I suggest you try 3000 word books and sell them for 99 cents on Kindle

    You make money off internal upsell links as well as get list members through your first page
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    • Profile picture of the author research
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post


      I suggest you try 3000 word books and sell them for 99 cents on Kindle
      Can you offer more information and advice covering the 3000 word books niche ???

      Would love to hear your advice and tips . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author deekay
    Hi greektitan

    Yes there are a lot of sites for what you are looking for. But if you really want high conversion when it comes to your income, you need a high quality content.

    I suggest you hire a writer and have him write for you. You can go to elance or odesk and hire someone with great writings and low payment.

    There are a lot of writers that are good but have no ratings yet because they are new. You can deal up with them to do this project and give them a high rating so that they can use for future application and credential.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by deekay View Post

      Hi greektitan

      I suggest you hire a writer and have him write for you. You can go to elance or odesk and hire someone with great writings and low payment.
      "Great writing" and "low payment" can very rarely be used in the same sentence. People with great writing skills expect to receive payment commiserate with their skills.

      All too often, it is assumed that because someone offers to write content for a fee, they must be "great writers". Unfortunately this is not the case. These days, you cannot get a book written, a cover made on Fiverr, then published on Kindle and expect hoards of sales.

      First, unless you also learn how to promote your book(s) you will be lucky to get a couple of sales a week, and second, those who do buy will quickly pick up on poor grammar etc. and pan the book in the reviews.
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      • Profile picture of the author HN
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        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        "Great writing" and "low payment" can very rarely be used in the same sentence. People with great writing skills expect to receive payment commiserate with their skills.

        First, unless you also learn how to promote your book(s) you will be lucky to get a couple of sales a week, and second, those who do buy will quickly pick up on poor grammar etc. and pan the book in the reviews.
        1. Just don't hire people with great writing skills that expect commensurate payments while starving. Hire great writers who are in need and willing to accept a reasonable compensation.
        2. He never suggested to hire people with poor grammar.

        May I also suggest to avoid hiring people that use fancy words whose meanings they don't fully understand.

        commiserate
        verb
        express or feel sympathy or pity; sympathize.

        commensurate
        adjective
        corresponding in size or degree; in proportion.
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        • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
          Originally Posted by HN View Post

          commiserate
          verb
          express or feel sympathy or pity; sympathize.

          commensurate
          adjective
          corresponding in size or degree; in proportion.
          I fully understand the meaning of both words HN, I actually sat and attained the Cambridge English, English Language, Proficiency (CPE) C2 / advanced.

          The Cambridge Proficiency exam is the hardest of the Cambridge exams. Google it if you doubt my word.

          What I'm actually guilty of of is misspelling 'commensurate' when I typed it, and subsequently accepting the first alternate offered to me when I right-clicked the word. (More haste, less speed.)

          I make a very good living writing both for high-paying clients who DO recognize good writing skills, and also for Kindle.

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          • Profile picture of the author quadagon
            Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post


            I make a very good living writing both for high-paying clients who DO recognize good writing skills, and also for Kindle.

            That's a really interesting sentence.

            On the surface I want the comma omitted as it joins two verbs rather than independent clauses. If I do this though the sentence then implies that your kindle clients don't recognise good writing skills.

            Interesting. You've got me thinking about sentence structure in the middles of the day.

            Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Harris
    I recommend iWriter, I often use them for my content.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I have been at this game many years. The rules keep changing on my. At one time, you could produce a tiny micro niche e-book and make some money. Well, that is no longer our case. Currently there are 3.6 million e-books on amazon kindle and that list will grow every year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle

    Here is an action plan for your success.
    • exposure
    • reviews
    • cover

    The most important thing is exposure as it is easy to get buried by the massive heap of titles that are similar to your. Getting to be on top is certainly not easy. I do a lot of promos.

    At one time, all you needed was a good cover. Well, that is no longer our case. People look at reviews. Getting them is not easy. For each 1000 free books you give away... expect one review. Often these reviews are poor. It is important to have a rating of 4.0 or more. Also, a lot of sites want book that have at least 50 reviews. Best to build up a fan club of people who like you. When you book comes out they will read it and write reviews.

    Last is the cover. I know that a pro cover is necessary. Get an artist to do one for you. Other wise, you will be crying. Although not as important as before, people still expect the cover to look pro. Also, the cover is often crushed into a tiny thumb nail that is icon size. Make sure your amazon BOOK cover looks good in all different sizes.
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  • Profile picture of the author joelmandre
    Avoid the Kindle Unlimited program unless your book is over a few hundred pages long. The program is definitely not worth the money. They used to pay something like a buck and a half to borrow your book. Now you get paid like a penny every 100 pages. Short stories and novellas are best to avoid on that.

    Cover is important too. People still judge a book by the cover. Make is enticing and have people want to read your book.

    Someone recommended iWriter. If you go with them, NEVER pay the base price. There are some terrible ESL writers on iWriter until you get up there to several cents a word. You'll occasionally find some decent people who are still working up the ranks at the base pay, but it is really hit and miss. Just a FYI. Need An Article is another good service.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    There is no such thing as a "Passive Income"

    There is however something called "Leveraged" income - which simply means you create something once and then leverage that effort across time and resources to get maximum bang for your buck.

    Creating products (ebooks being one type of product) is a good way to leverage your expertise, knowledge and share it effectively globally to your market.

    However, the thought that you can just place your product somewhere (like Kindle) and it will just sell is a fallacy.

    Physical books never worked that way either - look at some of the most successful authors (Chicken Soup for the Soul franchise for example) - there is a TON of effort that goes into launching, creating buzz, word-of-mouth and ongoing marketing to turn these into a top selling title. Once it's there, sure you get *some* staying power - but that is becoming shorter and shorter as the # of ebooks and amount of marketing increases.

    So, all of this to say - if you really believe you can write something and then sit back and collect the profit - stop now!

    If however, you see the massive potential in knowledge products and are willing to build a series of products, market like a madman for the next 12-18 months and commit to a given niche market - then you absolutely should go ahead.

    In that case, however, I would suggest that Kindle is only one potential avenue you could go - we have products on and off kindle - our big money comes from the products outside of Kindle (something to think about :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
      Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

      However, the thought that you can just place your product somewhere (like Kindle) and it will just sell is a fallacy.

      So, all of this to say - if you really believe you can write something and then sit back and collect the profit - stop now!
      Tell that to the many short books i published years ago. They still sell and i never promoted them.

      Perhaps making thousands of dollars per month is next to impossible, but making something in the mid-to-high hundreds is definitely doable.

      I do agree that chasing this kind of thing is really difficult, but it doesnt mean it doesn't exist. It's just really hard to nail it.
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      • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
        A few hundred dollars a month was not where my advice was targeted.

        Agreed - if you want to earn a hobby income, that can be done on Kindle - not where I was going with my post.

        Jeff

        Originally Posted by Epic Passive Income View Post

        Tell that to the many short books i published years ago. They still sell and i never promoted them.

        Perhaps making thousands of dollars per month is next to impossible, but making something in the mid-to-high hundreds is definitely doable.

        I do agree that chasing this kind of thing is really difficult, but it doesnt mean it doesn't exist. It's just really hard to nail it.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

      There is no such thing as a "Passive Income"
      Care to define what you mean by that phrase that led you to dismiss it as a possibility?

      For many people passive income involves setting up an asset ONCE and it continues to make money for the life of that asset.

      It requires little to no maintenance.

      I would think writing a book and putting it on the Kindle platform and collecting income throughout the life of that book would qualify as 'passive income.'

      Please let us know if this is wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shadowrun28
      Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

      There is no such thing as a "Passive Income"
      Nothing is safe in the world except of the death. Every asset need a care even real estates. Prices, competitiors, customer demand, laws etc. - everything can change with the time and could be risky for your income. But what's the alternative?

      Kindle is a great way for people with less experience in the Internet marketing business. You don't need special skills, you don't need to care about the distribution, you don't need to invest so it's almost riskfree etc. Sure, the sales can drop down with the time but the more books you publish the more stable is your income. With the increase of your income you're able to invest in high quality books to make your income even more stable. You'll also learn a lot of things during the time: What's necessary to get sales consistently? What marketing opportunities do I have? etc.

      It's no magic to create a five figure income with books. And if it's running for the next 5 years (just as an example ) everything is fine. Nobody knows how the world is looking in 5 years but then you've already made such a lot of money that you can enter/invest in every business easily.

      You're limiting the success of other people if you write stuff like that. The marketing outside of Amazon is a completely different business that needs completely different skills, experiences etc. That's like a real estates marketer says to you: "Your income is ridiculous. Invest in real estates to make the real big and more stable money." Yes, it could be true BUT this business has also completely different requirements than your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Another approach you can take is to DOMINATE your target niche by producing medium-sized books (around 100 pages) on the key questions related to your niche.

    Include a link at your first page to your squeeze page.

    Run the 5 day free promotions every quarter.

    If you have enough books in the system, you'll be running the promo daily.

    The key here is to get enough list members so they know when a promo is running.

    How do you benefit? REVIEWS

    Get all your books reviewed and your chances of generating sales increase.

    Of course, CONTENT quality is crucial and your covers must be SOLID.

    You also need to make sure your author profile is extremely professional in look and content.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymagneto
    I self published a book on Kindle in sports and used Fiverr to have it formatted. However, I didn't hire someone to write it. My client spent 5 years writing this book and busted his rear. Someone like you would churn out a piece of garbage content that nobody wants to read because you are lazy and don't put effort into your content. You want someone else to do the work. Well I wouldn't be surprised if they steal your content and re-post it on other websites for sale.

    You need to go the traditional route. Write it, make it legally your own content, deal with Lawyers etc. This ghost writing crap is good for Blogs but not for publishing books. get real.
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  • Profile picture of the author drjoeel
    I would love more information on the bookclub as well. As far as passive income, I have published several books on kindle and other platforms, I have a book publishing company and get some sales but my sales come from other promotional things such partnering with people that have list already. I must say form what I have learned so far that their are much better ways for passive income than ebooks such as online courses.
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  • Profile picture of the author pedram123
    there is course called kindle money mastery i would highly recommend that
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