Teespring Promoting WITHOUT FB Ads

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Hi All,

I've got a Facebook Fan Page - unfortunately at the moment it only has 8 likes and I was hoping to increase the number of fans I have. I was hoping to post some good content, but thing is I don't think I've got enough people on there to see much!

I've already got the tees I've created myself so far...

Tom Addams has already given me advice - I'm waiting on his response . But I wanted to know from other people. How do you attract people without spending money on ads?

I personally think I've got some decent tees that i've made.

Comments are welcome

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sushi...81889605342598

Thanks,
Sushi
#ads #promoting #teespring
  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Content on a fb page nobody sees won't get you anymore

    You need to build out FB ads to drive likes to the site - that's really your best and only reliable option.
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney View Post

      Content on a fb page nobody sees won't get you anymore

      You need to build out FB ads to drive likes to the site - that's really your best and only reliable option.
      Hmm.. I've heard information to the contrary...
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        Hmm.. I've heard information to the contrary...
        So why not do what you heard instead of asking here?
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        • Profile picture of the author TheGMa
          Oh my goodness. I have absolutely no idea what y'all are talking about, but I'll go find out here in a minute.

          In the meantime, here's some advice from an old-timer: Hi Sushi!

          1. It doesn't really matter what you are trying to promote: if folks can't tell what it is immediately, they're gonna bounce off your page in a heartbeat. I don't know if you can run stats on fb pages, but bounce rates and length of session are pretty damned important when you're testing a page.

          2. I've been gaming since Pong. I was on it in a heartbeat back then, followed through with all the "platform" games, and Mario's, the Hexen and Doom years, Tomb Raider years, FPS, HOG, FROG, MMORPG, and still game like all get out today.

          When I looked at your fb page, NOTHING reached out to grab me. Nothing told me you had anything interesting to say about gaming, what games you're into, tips and tricks, cheats, nada. No reason for me to stay long enough to even look at the t-shirt graphic.

          So while one can apparently um, trick traffic into going to a page using some sort of TEE system (?? - will read about it in detail later), the bottom line is that you can't make money if nobody hangs around long enough to care about YOU and what you are promoting.
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        • Profile picture of the author sushi92
          Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney View Post

          So why not do what you heard instead of asking here?
          I thought you guys were the "professionals"... and someone on here told me that Facebook Ads won't sustain anyone in the long term. So, there's a better long term solution - clearly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

    Hi All,

    I've got a Facebook Fan Page - unfortunately at the moment it only has 8 likes and I was hoping to increase the number of fans I have. I was hoping to post some good content, but thing is I don't think I've got enough people on there to see much!

    I've already got the tees I've created myself so far...

    Tom Addams has already given me advice - I'm waiting on his response . But I wanted to know from other people. How do you attract people without spending money on ads?

    I personally think I've got some decent tees that i've made.

    Comments are welcome

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sushi...81889605342598

    Thanks,
    Sushi
    All the people I know have rather large followings on social media sites like Youtube, so that whenever they put up a video to promote something on Tee Spring, they automatically get a lot of traffic to their stuff.

    Joey
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by Miguelito203 View Post

      All the people I know have rather large followings on social media sites like Youtube, so that whenever they put up a video to promote something on Tee Spring, they automatically get a lot of traffic to their stuff.

      Joey
      Right, so for the people who are just starting and DON'T have a large following and are trying to get followers....?
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  • Profile picture of the author PorterSummers
    I'm trying to understand your angle. You are developing a brand? IMO the best approach for you would be to figure out what niche you would like to go after(say drummers) and then post links to your shirts on popular drum related pages page post. Also, I would suggest creating pages that are niche specific
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  • Profile picture of the author PorterSummers
    This is NOT my recommended method but you asked for a way without ads.

    It is possible to get page likes for $0.01
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by PorterSummers View Post

      This is NOT my recommended method but you asked for a way without ads.

      It is possible to get page likes for $0.01
      Really? How exactly do you do that?

      If you click my link, you'll see I already have a niche It's the gaming niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author PorterSummers
        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        Really? How exactly do you do that?

        If you click my link, you'll see I already have a niche It's the gaming niche.
        the title of the page didnt relay that info to me, maybe im not familiar with gaming lingo.

        Ok, well say you have a shirt for a specific game or platform - go to a page related to the game or platform that has a lot of followers or engagement and post links to your page OR post links to your shirt. These should be comments on post
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        • Profile picture of the author sushi92
          Originally Posted by PorterSummers View Post

          the title of the page didnt relay that info to me, maybe im not familiar with gaming lingo.

          Ok, well say you have a shirt for a specific game or platform - go to a page related to the game or platform that has a lot of followers or engagement and post links to your page OR post links to your shirt. These should be comments on post
          Sorry PorterSummers, I realised I hadn't specified it was for the gaming niche - I've been speaking to a lot of other people :\.

          I know you're not allowed to actually post on the main page for advertising, but in comments it's ok?
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          • Profile picture of the author PorterSummers
            Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

            Sorry PorterSummers, I realised I hadn't specified it was for the gaming niche - I've been speaking to a lot of other people :.

            I know you're not allowed to actually post on the main page for advertising, but in comments it's ok?
            I understand that, normally I make my page name more niche specific. Like "Gamers Zone" or "Gamer Life" just a tip.

            You can do it, just don't be spammy about it. DON'T DO - BUY MY SHIRT NOW, IT'S SOOOOOOO AWESOME

            DO DO - Hey guys, just wanted to share a shirt I just designed, check it out!
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            • Profile picture of the author sushi92
              Originally Posted by PorterSummers View Post

              I understand that, normally I make my page name more niche specific. Like "Gamers Zone" or "Gamer Life" just a tip.

              You can do it, just don't be spammy about it. DON'T DO - BUY MY SHIRT NOW, IT'S SOOOOOOO AWESOME

              DO DO - Hey guys, just wanted to share a shirt I just designed, check it out!
              Awesome, thanks PorterSummers . I'll think about the name change. Also, you were speaking of 0.01$ ads. I don't really know much about ads on Facebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Fus Ro Dah!

    Sushi!

    Going to leave a few tips here. Might benefit some other folks, as well. Or - as I prefer to think of it - increase the power of their

    thu'um!

    What I do for traffic.

    I have quite a few large traffic platforms. We're talking pages, accounts, profiles, groups, communities. On top of that, a budget for traffic-buying. When promoting tees, I'll hurl traffic from the 2 locations:

    1. Platforms.
    2. Traffic Purchases.

    If you don't want to buy traffic.

    It's all well and good saying to buy traffic for tees, but if you hung out with my crowd, or even had a bash at traffic buying yourself, you'd learn pretty early on the concept of weak or negative ROI. Reason being: competition. There is money to be made here - a heck of a lot - and this draws out the people with skills and money to burn.

    And this is "some" of what we do:

    1. Review tee campaigns on socials.
    2. Reverse engineer the best.
    3. Use our stats (based on big investment in the past).
    4. Implement similar but improved campaigns.
    5. Push out those "old winners."
    6. See our own campaigns dwindle as we're copied.
    7. Repeat 1 to 5.

    Bit more involved than that, but you get the picture. It's really no different than any type of media buy or PPC marketing. Inexperienced IMers believe traffic buying is a way to hands-off profits. Good luck with that. You're competing with folks like me (and people with far, far, far deeper pockets), taking what they know are winning campaigns, or even winning elements, and enhancing their EPCs at the expense of your own. Business is war, remember.

    There are traffic buying tricks but I can't share them. I'd suggest you or anyone else using your smarts and becoming a student of tee campaigns.

    But I'm going to give you and anyone else a much safer, and in the long-term, probably better route - unless you have cash to burn.

    Socials

    The 2 best socials to sell your tees:

    1. Facebook
    2. Twitter

    Do your selling on your own FB page. Direct all traffic TO that page.

    A few traffic sources for you:

    1. Your FB Page.
    2. FB Niche Groups.
    3. FB Buy and Sell Groups
    4. Your Twitter.
    5. G+ Communities
    6. Pinterest
    7. Youtube Videos
    8. Dailymotion Videos
    9. Niche Forums

    If you're just starting out:

    1. FB Page.
    2. Twitter Account.
    3. Direct Twitter to FB Page.
    4. Grow FB Page by Sharing Non-Monetized Updates to Groups.
    5. Eyeballs on Campaigns: Share tee updates to groups.

    Pro Tip:

    Some of us are growing FB groups to 100K+ in a matter of weeks. One easy way of doing so is by making "NICHE ADD ME GROUPS."

    (I'm so getting my butt kicked for saying some of this...)

    Last thing I'll add is this: trends.

    You can't even imagine how much was earned when Skyrim (how can you not love it, you freak?!!!!) came out. But (and you like this game) the same can be said (to a slightly lesser extent) for GTA V.

    The trick to tees for BIG money?

    Follow trends!

    I hope some of that helps, matey. Must say - fab thread. I seem to be unable to share business models on WF, due to the name of my business. I think it's seen as article marketing. So I'm hoping the above sticks. It certainly wouldn't if I'd made the thread - which is why you'll find me replying as opposed to creating.

    Anyway - best of luck. Your designs rock. Can't see any reason you won't kick butt.

    Oh - last thing (sorry, just waking up).

    GROW your traffic platforms first. Obvious. Just saying so - just in case. I personally like to get platforms to 10K minimum AND ensure that they're high-engagement. Those add me groups? Not the greatest engagement, which is one of the reasons we make NICHE ones - which increases engagement a little. You'll need a bit more than 10K on those. Overall - your objective should be to grow big platforms. The more and the bigger, the merrier.

    Oh - another very last thing. If you're not already doing so - you should be collecting opt-ins. If you collect them and warm up your traffic (fortune is in the follow-ups, as they say) you'll increase conversions. Plenty of ways to get folks on your list. Be creative!

    Cheers,

    Tom Dovahkiin!!
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      Fus Ro Dah!

      Sushi!

      Going to leave a few tips here. Might benefit some other folks, as well. Or - as I prefer to think of it - increase the power of their

      thu'um!

      What I do for traffic.

      I have quite a few large traffic platforms. We're talking pages, accounts, profiles, groups, communities. On top of that, a budget for traffic-buying. When promoting tees, I'll hurl traffic from the 2 locations:

      1. Platforms.
      2. Traffic Purchases.

      If you don't want to buy traffic.

      It's all well and good saying to buy traffic for tees, but if you hung out with my crowd, or even had a bash at traffic buying yourself, you'd learn pretty early on the concept of weak or negative ROI. Reason being: competition. There is money to be made here - a heck of a lot - and this draws out the people with skills and money to burn.

      And this is "some" of what we do:

      1. Review tee campaigns on socials.
      2. Reverse engineer the best.
      3. Use our stats (based on big investment in the past).
      4. Implement similar but improved campaigns.
      5. Push out those "old winners."
      6. See our own campaigns dwindle as we're copied.
      7. Repeat 1 to 5.

      Bit more involved than that, but you get the picture. It's really no different than any type of media buy or PPC marketing. Inexperienced IMers believe traffic buying is a way to hands-off profits. Good luck with that. You're competing with folks like me (and people with far, far, far deeper pockets), taking what they know are winning campaigns, or even winning elements, and enhancing their EPCs at the expense of your own. Business is war, remember.

      There are traffic buying tricks but I can't share them. I'd suggest you or anyone else using your smarts and becoming a student of tee campaigns.

      But I'm going to give you and anyone else a much safer, and in the long-term, probably better route - unless you have cash to burn.

      Socials

      The 2 best socials to sell your tees:

      1. Facebook
      2. Twitter

      Do your selling on your own FB page. Direct all traffic TO that page.

      A few traffic sources for you:

      1. Your FB Page.
      2. FB Niche Groups.
      3. FB Buy and Sell Groups
      4. Your Twitter.
      5. G+ Communities
      6. Pinterest
      7. Youtube Videos
      8. Dailymotion Videos
      9. Niche Forums

      If you're just starting out:

      1. FB Page.
      2. Twitter Account.
      3. Direct Twitter to FB Page.
      4. Grow FB Page by Sharing Non-Monetized Updates to Groups.
      5. Eyeballs on Campaigns: Share tee updates to groups.

      Pro Tip:

      Some of us are growing FB groups to 100K+ in a matter of weeks. One easy way of doing so is by making "NICHE ADD ME GROUPS."

      (I'm so getting my butt kicked for saying some of this...)

      Last thing I'll add is this: trends.

      You can't even imagine how much was earned when Skyrim (how can you not love it, you freak?!!!!) came out. But (and you like this game) the same can be said (to a slightly lesser extent) for GTA V.

      The trick to tees for BIG money?

      Follow trends!

      I hope some of that helps, matey. Must say - fab thread. I seem to be unable to share business models on WF, due to the name of my business. I think it's seen as article marketing. So I'm hoping the above sticks. It certainly wouldn't if I'd made the thread - which is why you'll find me replying as opposed to creating.

      Anyway - best of luck. Your designs rock. Can't see any reason you won't kick butt.

      Oh - last thing (sorry, just waking up).

      GROW your traffic platforms first. Obvious. Just saying so - just in case. I personally like to get platforms to 10K minimum AND ensure that they're high-engagement. Those add me groups? Not the greatest engagement, which is one of the reasons we make NICHE ones - which increases engagement a little. You'll need a bit more than 10K on those. Overall - your objective should be to grow big platforms. The more and the bigger, the merrier.

      Oh - another very last thing. If you're not already doing so - you should be collecting opt-ins. If you collect them and warm up your traffic (fortune is in the follow-ups, as they say) you'll increase conversions. Plenty of ways to get folks on your list. Be creative!

      Cheers,

      Tom Dovahkiin!!
      Hi Tom ,

      Thanks for the awesome response. Let me get this out the way - Skyrim is just not for me!!!! It reminds me of Fable or WoW. I'm more into killing people or hanging out with gangsters or saving prostitutes (GTA) so forgive me for that .

      Anyway, back to the promoting.

      I only have Facebook, so Facebook is all I can do at the moment (and instagram and PInterest but i don't know how people are going to see my posts).

      You were talking about "NICHE ADD ME GROUPS" - I have absolutely no idea what you mean but that to be honest! Could you possibly use an example?! I mean, am i making those groups? Following them? What groups are they :S?

      Also, in terms of following trends. It's all good to be involved in the gaming niche however, there's one important thing. You can't promote GTA or Skyrim t-shirts for example, a lot of the time, as it violates copyright. Am I right? OR wrong?

      I've got money to start everything up, it's just the "how" really. I've made an ad but it has 0 reach (God knows why...) and i'm joining FB groups like a mad person. But you can only advertise in certain ways...

      Thanks
      Sushi
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        Hi Tom ,

        Thanks for the awesome response. Let me get this out the way - Skyrim is just not for me!!!! It reminds me of Fable or WoW. I'm more into killing people or hanging out with gangsters or saving prostitutes (GTA) so forgive me for that .
        It's a good job you like GTA. Those is fighting words!

        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        I only have Facebook, so Facebook is all I can do at the moment (and instagram and PInterest but i don't know how people are going to see my posts).
        That's okay. You're actually best off sticking with Facebook for now. I threw the over stuff at you for the long-term.

        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        You were talking about "NICHE ADD ME GROUPS" - I have absolutely no idea what you mean but that to be honest! Could you possibly use an example?! I mean, am i making those groups? Following them? What groups are they :S?
        This is probably the area that I shouldn't be explaining. Well, an area that I brought up, shall we say? But it'll get saturated soon enough without my little post. You have a bunch of "add me" groups on Facebook. Clever IMers actually set these up in order to grow groups fast. Really clever IMers make add me groups in niches - gaming, or branches of gaming. You - the IMer - create a group and grow that group, using it to:

        - Sell Tees
        - Grow other groups
        - Grow pages
        - Grow your list
        - Feed your blogs

        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        Also, in terms of following trends. It's all good to be involved in the gaming niche however, there's one important thing. You can't promote GTA or Skyrim t-shirts for example, a lot of the time, as it violates copyright. Am I right? OR wrong?
        Exactly. You can't do that. And whatever content you use - as you obviously already know - but be free of copyright. What you can do, though, is "hint at" trends. Just don't use quotes or anything like that. A lot of folks do. Not recommended. Overall, though - you need to understand your audience. Which is easy in your case - because you are your audience. Your designs actually rock - so you have no worries here whatsoever. I love 'em!

        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        I've got money to start everything up, it's just the "how" really. I've made an ad but it has 0 reach (God knows why...) and i'm joining FB groups like a mad person. But you can only advertise in certain ways...
        I'd save your money. Like I said before - getting a positive (and decent) ROI is hard when you start out. Your best bet:

        1. Build your traffic platforms (like a FB page)
        2. For quick traffic - I'll PM you.

        Cheers,

        Tom
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        • Profile picture of the author sushi92
          Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

          It's a good job you like GTA. Those is fighting words!



          That's okay. You're actually best off sticking with Facebook for now. I threw the over stuff at you for the long-term.



          This is probably the area that I shouldn't be explaining. Well, an area that I brought up, shall we say? But it'll get saturated soon enough without my little post. You have a bunch of "add me" groups on Facebook. Clever IMers actually set these up in order to grow groups fast. Really clever IMers make add me groups in niches - gaming, or branches of gaming. You - the IMer - create a group and grow that group, using it to:

          - Sell Tees
          - Grow other groups
          - Grow pages
          - Grow your list
          - Feed your blogs



          Exactly. You can't do that. And whatever content you use - as you obviously already know - but be free of copyright. What you can do, though, is "hint at" trends. Just don't use quotes or anything like that. A lot of folks do. Not recommended. Overall, though - you need to understand your audience. Which is easy in your case - because you are your audience. Your designs actually rock - so you have no worries here whatsoever. I love 'em!



          I'd save your money. Like I said before - getting a positive (and decent) ROI is hard when you start out. Your best bet:

          1. Build your traffic platforms (like a FB page)
          2. For quick traffic - I'll PM you.

          Cheers,

          Tom
          Thanks Tom - Glad you like my designs! I've burnt myself out this week by working 13 hours a day at work AND coming home and doing designs ... I'm DEAD!

          Going to check out your PM now .

          Thanks,
          Sushi
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  • Profile picture of the author abdoue
    pinterest + instagram will get you huge high quality traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author PorterSummers
      Regarding Instagram, I have have some huge ROI implementing a P2P ad buy
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  • Profile picture of the author globalexperts
    You need to run Facebook ads if you want faster results. I don't think you'll get any conversions without using any form of paid traffic. You need to invest money as well if you want to earn in internet marketing. Just spend your budget wisely.
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by globalexperts View Post

      You need to run Facebook ads if you want faster results. I don't think you'll get any conversions without using any form of paid traffic. You need to invest money as well if you want to earn in internet marketing. Just spend your budget wisely.
      Might need some help actually creating the ads! I've got the funds .. i just really can't create good ads.
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      • Profile picture of the author globalexperts
        Originally Posted by sushi92 View Post

        Might need some help actually creating the ads! I've got the funds .. i just really can't create good ads.
        We all started at that stage. Just take action and get your feet wet. You'll learn a lot of things as you create your first ad, second ad, third ad, and so on. You can also head to the Warrior Forum WSO section to get some good Facebook ads courses just so you know the basics.
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        • Profile picture of the author sushi92
          Originally Posted by globalexperts View Post

          We all started at that stage. Just take action and get your feet wet. You'll learn a lot of things as you create your first ad, second ad, third ad, and so on. You can also head to the Warrior Forum WSO section to get some good Facebook ads courses just so you know the basics.
          Hi Global,

          Yeah i guess so. How many ads did it take you to get it perfect then?
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  • Profile picture of the author simonmks
    hello sushi, my advice is to use the app or website where you post your campaign facebook, make you pay a few cents and pay a few cents per click who I like !!! so in a few days with a small investment you will go up frighteningly I like in a few days, then will rise again free by users who will see his friends put (i like). in Europe now use many clinkomatic.

    Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveTheSinister
    Without spending money on ads does put a bit of additional work on your plate but I believe in the long run will only help you to understand your target audiences better. Forums, google alerts, and social media can all be used to help find your audiences and allow you to start forming relationships. Engage your customers, make them feel more like a friend rather than some schmoe who is gonna support your lifestyle.

    I enjoy designing tshirts as well. I am actually more in it to make and design my own clothes. Like being unique and having stuff others dont or cant get (not always financially related). I have sold a couple shirts here and there but it wasnt until I started getting my hands dirty and mingling with my target audience that I started to see some kind of interest.

    Heck even if they dont want to buy the shirt/design they all are willing to help promote it for free. Retweets and likes and word of mouth, all because I established a relationship with them. Heck I even have a couple of people who like my designs enough that they approached me wanting to partner up, lol. Nothing better than having someone approach you, wanting to sell your shirts.

    A bit of advice though, start looking into other platforms besides Teespring. They do have a great site and it is amazing in terms of ease of entry, but in the long run will not be rewarding to you unless you continue to work and or invest time and money.

    Use Teespring and other platforms as a means to see what people will actually pay for before spending your own money to maintain a site where you host those shirts. They are out there and believe me there are plenty of them.

    Hope this helps
    D
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    • Profile picture of the author sushi92
      Originally Posted by DaveTheSinister View Post

      Without spending money on ads does put a bit of additional work on your plate but I believe in the long run will only help you to understand your target audiences better. Forums, google alerts, and social media can all be used to help find your audiences and allow you to start forming relationships. Engage your customers, make them feel more like a friend rather than some schmoe who is gonna support your lifestyle.

      I enjoy designing tshirts as well. I am actually more in it to make and design my own clothes. Like being unique and having stuff others dont or cant get (not always financially related). I have sold a couple shirts here and there but it wasnt until I started getting my hands dirty and mingling with my target audience that I started to see some kind of interest.

      Heck even if they dont want to buy the shirt/design they all are willing to help promote it for free. Retweets and likes and word of mouth, all because I established a relationship with them. Heck I even have a couple of people who like my designs enough that they approached me wanting to partner up, lol. Nothing better than having someone approach you, wanting to sell your shirts.

      A bit of advice though, start looking into other platforms besides Teespring. They do have a great site and it is amazing in terms of ease of entry, but in the long run will not be rewarding to you unless you continue to work and or invest time and money.

      Use Teespring and other platforms as a means to see what people will actually pay for before spending your own money to maintain a site where you host those shirts. They are out there and believe me there are plenty of them.

      Hope this helps
      D
      Thanks Dave,

      This is precisely what I'm doing. I literally have a communication with people and talk with them and I even try and get involved by playing games, but it does take a lot of time. I use Fabrily but i'll try looking into other places like Zazzle and Spreadshirts etc.

      To be honest I have the money to spend on Facebook ads and make them really good! Problem is I am absolutely RUBBISH at creating facebook ads... really I am, I'd really need some help creating them. Reason I say that is because I made one and the reach was 0.... soo i must have been doing something wrong!

      What is the average cost per day if you want your ad to go far? I guess content, facebook ads, and engaging is the best way to do it. But I'm guessing we are talking about a few months or longer turnaround time?

      What's your personal experience with earning from Teespring and is it actually lucrative? If so does it take years to achieve?

      Thanks!
      Sushi
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