How to Promote a Migraine Product?

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Hello guys, firstly I would like to say I am looking forward to the replies as this Forum is one of the only forums to offer both online and offline advice.

Anyways, I have a new product related to Migraines, which solves the problem of having Migraines and relieves them.

I am currently researching how to get affiliates on board, however I am also looking at testing the product more myself, although I've used some techniques already I am always looking for new techniques.

Basically I would like to know what techniques you have, offline and online for advertising a migraine related product?

The website is; The Migraine Relief | The Most Complete, Effective, Simple and 100% Natural System Against Migraines

Thank you everyone.

Will.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
    Wow, nice looking website you got there!

    Very professional.

    Wish you the best with the product, looks terrific!
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    Thank you Pnigro, I am glad you think so Why not promote it
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  • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
    Would you like some feedback from a migraine sufferer? If not, then please just ignore the rest of this post.

    I took a look at your web site, and I found it completely unconvincing.

    1)It is too hard to tell exactly what the product is.

    2)It is impossible to tell how it's different from other products that claim to treat migraines naturally.

    3)There is so much blather in the sales letter and it's written in such a hackneyed style that it's highly unpleasant to read it.

    4)You have aimed the letter at people taking migraine medication, which is not me, even though I am in the market for natural migraine relief information.

    5)I didn't see any health care professionals endorsing the product.

    I would love to have more knowledge about preventing migraines naturally, and I would pay for it if I knew what I was getting and knew that it was not going to repeat what I already know about migraines. I would never in a million years buy your product from this sales page.

    Now I am just one person, but I am EXACTLY your target market.

    Have you tested this sales page? If so, great. If not, that comes before spending money on promotion.
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  • Profile picture of the author jendoe
    Wow! Well, here's a weird stroke of luck...

    I tried to promote your page! (Granted, I'm a beginner still learning the ropes, and I'm not really ranking for my keywords yet... so I doubt you ever saw any actual traffic from me, let alone sales...)

    BUT! I went today to double check what I was doing, and my hoplink no longer worked. I also couldn't find you in Clickbank. What happened? I had to redirect to another product... which I thought was a shame, since I had looked at all the sales pages a couple weeks ago, and specifically chose *yours*.

    (And - being new - my first worry was that maybe there was something seriously wrong with your product, and you got kicked off Clickbank. I don't know if this happens, but that was what was going through my head today.)

    Totally weird to see your message pop up today though, when I *swear* it was just this afternoon that I noticed the broken hoplink...

    Thanks!
    -Jen
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    • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
      Originally Posted by marciayudkin View Post

      Would you like some feedback from a migraine sufferer? If not, then please just ignore the rest of this post.

      I took a look at your web site, and I found it completely unconvincing.

      1)It is too hard to tell exactly what the product is.

      2)It is impossible to tell how it's different from other products that claim to treat migraines naturally.

      3)There is so much blather in the sales letter and it's written in such a hackneyed style that it's highly unpleasant to read it.

      4)You have aimed the letter at people taking migraine medication, which is not me, even though I am in the market for natural migraine relief information.

      5)I didn't see any health care professionals endorsing the product.

      I would love to have more knowledge about preventing migraines naturally, and I would pay for it if I knew what I was getting and knew that it was not going to repeat what I already know about migraines. I would never in a million years buy your product from this sales page.

      Now I am just one person, but I am EXACTLY your target market.

      Have you tested this sales page? If so, great. If not, that comes before spending money on promotion.
      Thank you very much for your feedback and its great to get some feedback from my exact target market. I have written down some of the pin point notes that you have mentioned and I will be taking another look at the sales page to perhaps edit somethings, especially with the endorsements.

      I have tested the site and had over 25 sales in the past 30 days with a good conversion rate however I am always looking at improving this for myself and my affiliates so I shall be taking your advice on board.

      I will be changing the sales page so it targets a more broad market instead of just people taking medication and I will also explain properly what the product actually is, thanks again.


      Originally Posted by jendoe View Post

      Wow! Well, here's a weird stroke of luck...

      I tried to promote your page! (Granted, I'm a beginner still learning the ropes, and I'm not really ranking for my keywords yet... so I doubt you ever saw any actual traffic from me, let alone sales...)

      BUT! I went today to double check what I was doing, and my hoplink no longer worked. I also couldn't find you in Clickbank. What happened? I had to redirect to another product... which I thought was a shame, since I had looked at all the sales pages a couple weeks ago, and specifically chose *yours*.

      (And - being new - my first worry was that maybe there was something seriously wrong with your product, and you got kicked off Clickbank. I don't know if this happens, but that was what was going through my head today.)

      Totally weird to see your message pop up today though, when I *swear* it was just this afternoon that I noticed the broken hoplink...

      Thanks!
      -Jen
      Hello Jen, firstly thank you for promoting my product although when you started to promote the product it was not mine. Basically I bought this site and the product a week ago from my real life friend, who has not got time for the product launch and promotion so I helped him out abit. Now we was going to leave the product on the clickbank account however clickbank said we had to change it when we changed owners so we had to take the site down put it on my server, change the hoplinks, change clickbank accounts and get re-approved.

      This is now all done and the product has been approved, we are just waiting to appear in the marketplace however you can promote and sell the product, we even got the first sale today.

      We have a large amount of affiliate tools which I am sure you have seen, and as you can see from this post that you will be able to see we are keen to improve conversions always and improve the experience for the affiliates. I am currently testing this product, keeping a record and I will be compiling several free guides for the affiliates to help promote the product which will be available in the next couple of weeks.

      Hope this clears things up, I hope to see you promoting the product again soon.

      I will also be adding an optional opt in page for affiliates so I can keep in contact with you and give you more tips and techniques as well as resources.

      Anyways, thank you everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author jendoe
    Thanks, that makes sense... it just freaked me out a bit to see it completely gone... and then literally hours later, to find this thread!
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    • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
      Originally Posted by jendoe View Post

      Thanks, that makes sense... it just freaked me out a bit to see it completely gone... and then literally hours later, to find this thread!
      No problems, because affilliates did not have to subscribe to an opt in there was just no way to tell everyone about it. I really didnt want to have to do it because if a publisher did it to me I would be annoyed but I had no choice, I hope to see some sales from you in the future. If you need any help you know where I am just give me a shout.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kettlewell
    Some of the headings are a bit awkward to read... for instance
    NO doctor or drug can prevent you against migraines . . . But you CAN


    is not very powerful, and almost confusing...

    I'm not a copywrite, but I'm certain that it could be worded for better sales...

    the site is clean, but the message is weak... pay a grand to have a pro go through it and power-write on it, and PPC the heck out of it... you should be selling migraine relief off the shelf!
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    • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
      Originally Posted by kettlewell View Post

      Some of the headings are a bit awkward to read... for instance
      NO doctor or drug can prevent you against migraines . . . But you CAN


      is not very powerful, and almost confusing...

      I'm not a copywrite, but I'm certain that it could be worded for better sales...

      the site is clean, but the message is weak... pay a grand to have a pro go through it and power-write on it, and PPC the heck out of it... you should be selling migraine relief off the shelf!
      Thank you for your comments, I may go through it myself and tweak some parts then see if the conversion rate goes up after I get some affiliates on board it would probably be worth getting a professional to write it for me.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Hey Will

    It is a very nice looking site, really impressive. Do you have any stats on what your conversion rate is?

    I have a headache site where I promote 2 products - 1 migraine product and 1 tension headache product.

    If you're conversions are good then I might replace the migraine product with yours and see how it goes. So if you've got any stats - e.g. number of hits to number of sales - then I'll be happy to promote it for you if your stats are good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Wow - I just had a look at your affiliate page and I must say that is very impressive, that has to be the best affiliate page I've ever come across. I've never seen anyone offer their affiliates so many tools - banners, wordpress themes, squeeze page templates, landing page templates - that is amazing.

    Very Well Done - I'm impressed!
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    • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
      I'm about ready to ramp up work on re-doing my Fibromyalgia site ... update affiliate products, etc .... and yours will fit in just nicely as many of us Fibro sufferers have bad heads/migraines.

      I didn't really get the sense of what the solution was in the sales letter ... is it herbal remedies ... meditation remedies .... accupressure type remedies ... a combo thereof? Or, do you give your affiliates keywords that would give those kinds of hints?

      Please let me know when you have all your plans with this product and site finalized ... by then I should be ready on my end.

      And I, also, was highly impressed with the look of the sales page. Kudos to the designer!
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      • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
        Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

        Hey Will

        It is a very nice looking site, really impressive. Do you have any stats on what your conversion rate is?

        I have a headache site where I promote 2 products - 1 migraine product and 1 tension headache product.

        If you're conversions are good then I might replace the migraine product with yours and see how it goes. So if you've got any stats - e.g. number of hits to number of sales - then I'll be happy to promote it for you if your stats are good.
        Thank you very much for your compliments, as for conversions I only received the website last week however the previous owner (my friend) told me conversions used to be about 1/30 however I had a sale today with little promotion and little traffic so conversions are currently very good and with our split testing, they shall just be improving more and more.

        I will however ask my friend for any stats he may have from the previous account, just to make this more official. If not I shall post my own up soon.

        Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

        Wow - I just had a look at your affiliate page and I must say that is very impressive, that has to be the best affiliate page I've ever come across. I've never seen anyone offer their affiliates so many tools - banners, wordpress themes, squeeze page templates, landing page templates - that is amazing.

        Very Well Done - I'm impressed!
        Thanks again, I am glad you enjoyed the mass amount of resources, there really is a lot but its only getting better I will be adding some affiliate guides soon using my years of experience to help affiliates make more sales. Use the resources to your own freedom, they are all there to be used however you want.

        Originally Posted by Barbara Eyre View Post

        I'm about ready to ramp up work on re-doing my Fibromyalgia site ... update affiliate products, etc .... and yours will fit in just nicely as many of us Fibro sufferers have bad heads/migraines.

        I didn't really get the sense of what the solution was in the sales letter ... is it herbal remedies ... meditation remedies .... accupressure type remedies ... a combo thereof? Or, do you give your affiliates keywords that would give those kinds of hints?

        Please let me know when you have all your plans with this product and site finalized ... by then I should be ready on my end.

        And I, also, was highly impressed with the look of the sales page. Kudos to the designer!
        Hello, thank you for your comments. As for the sales page copy, I have had several comments about this so this will be my main focus for tomorrow. I will be going through every bit of the sales copy tomorrow and tweaking it here and there to make it clearer to the customer about what this product actually is and what it does.

        We do provide our affiliates with absolutely everything we can, and we are currently developing more resources for the affiliates page which will be available soon.

        Glad you like the design, I love it too

        I shall contact you soon, it would be much easier to keep all my affiliates on a newsletter.

        This is to everyone now, would you be keen on subscribing as an affiliate to a migraine relief newsletter where I would post more information, techniques, latest resources and tips for getting more conversions or would you not?

        It would make it so much easier for me, to keep a track of everyone and communicate with everyone.
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        • Profile picture of the author pappyy3
          WOW

          This is a very nice looking site .... well done.

          Probably one of the nicest sites I've seen in a while (and I've seen a few).

          Your affiliate resources are absolutely fantastic .... I think others can learn a lot from what you've provided

          The only suggestion I have is same as what the others have already mentioned. Review some of the headings on your sales page and they way they are worded make them difficult to read (they don't really flow ......)

          Well done on a nice site. Wish you every success with it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Barbara Eyre
            Yes, to the newsletter. Something I wish all affiliate program owners did.
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          • Profile picture of the author tknoppe
            I too am your target market and have been a migraine sufferer for 30 years (had a migraine today, as did my 10 yr old son). I've been to every 'ist' & 'ologist' there is, tried both daily preventative and abortive meds to stop migraines. I know all the triggers foods and common known causes, as well as what triggers migraines for *me*. I've even been in migraine studies and had the neurologist tell me I know more about migraines than he does.

            I agree with the other commenter that while your affiliate site is very impressive; the sales site - coming from the perspective of your target market - leaves me skeptical. I've already tried it all and seen it all; and this sales copy isn't tell me what I'm really buying. Is this going to be the same old stuff I already know and have tried - or is this something perhaps new and unique. If it's tell me to avoid chocolate, caffeine, nitrates, etc... been there, done that - bought the tshirt!

            I agree with the sales copy, migraines are serious and can be life threatening - which most people don't realize; but I would need more information to be assure I'm not buying more 'snake oil'.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Will, how much commission do you pay out on this? Sorry if I missed it on the affiliate page, I don't remember seeing it, and I can't seem to find it on Clickbank - what is it with clickbank, you search migraines and you get all sorts of results - I hate that!

    I would be interested in signing up to an affiliate newsletter if you start one up - good idea!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      70% according to his affiliate page under
      Affiliate Program & Product Details

      Yes a very nice site, very professional looking. Who actually designed it Will they are very talented

      Kim


      Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

      Will, how much commission do you pay out on this? Sorry if I missed it on the affiliate page, I don't remember seeing it, and I can't seem to find it on Clickbank - what is it with clickbank, you search migraines and you get all sorts of results - I hate that!

      I would be interested in signing up to an affiliate newsletter if you start one up - good idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author MaggieDavid
    Hi,

    Had a look at your site and quite impressed.

    Also had a look at your affiliate page, and would love to become an affiliate once you are opening this up. (Like the idea of WP blog you offer etc)

    Are you going to promote it through clickbank or other means and how much affiliate commission are you giving?

    Can you let me know when all this opened up? As I have several ideas already on how I would promote.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Thanks Kim - I must have missed it
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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    1. There are too many different sized fonts on your page
    2. You need more social proof
    3. You need a new sales letter that better targets your market for better conversions
    4. Great site design
    Best of Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    Not completely convinced about the headline.

    What If You Were Able To STOP Your Migraines Once And For All Without The Use Of Medications In A Very Simple And Effective Way?

    How about:

    Who Else Wants To STOP Their Migraines Once And For All Without The Use Of Medications In A Very Simple And Effective Way?
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  • Profile picture of the author thezone
    Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

    Hello guys, firstly I would like to say I am looking forward to the replies as this Forum is one of the only forums to offer both online and offline advice.

    Anyways, I have a new product related to Migraines, which solves the problem of having Migraines and relieves them.

    I am currently researching how to get affiliates on board, however I am also looking at testing the product more myself, although I've used some techniques already I am always looking for new techniques.

    Basically I would like to know what techniques you have, offline and online for advertising a migraine related product?

    The website is;
    Thank you everyone.

    Will.
    It looks like you already have issues (one person), two links from google (when I put in your site address). In one, a "teri" states they ordered and did not get their product or the download page, and you got a scathing review from healthcentral dot com (from the same Teri (signatures matched) who must have gotten the first issue straightened out), and received the product.

    The squidoo page which "raves" about the product has similar grammatical errors found in the website, and it is so transparent that the site "owner" created it, that if anyone came across it, and went to the site, they would not be fooled, and it would do more harm then good. While most probably create their own "testimonials/reviews" they usually aren't so blatantly obvious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
      Originally Posted by thezone View Post

      The squidoo page which "raves" about the product has similar grammatical errors found in the website, and it is so transparent that the site "owner" created it, that if anyone came across it, and went to the site, they would not be fooled, and it would do more harm then good. While most probably create their own "testimonials/reviews" they usually aren't so blatantly obvious.
      I wasn't sure whether or not to mention this but it does look odd to me.

      If those testimonials are made up you're asking for a LOT of trouble.
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      • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
        Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

        Will, how much commission do you pay out on this? Sorry if I missed it on the affiliate page, I don't remember seeing it, and I can't seem to find it on Clickbank - what is it with clickbank, you search migraines and you get all sorts of results - I hate that!

        I would be interested in signing up to an affiliate newsletter if you start one up - good idea!
        Hello Sheryl, the commission is 70% of $37 and we also have a back end product which we are currently setting up, however we still have some choices on how to do this.

        It won't show in Clickbank market for another couple of days, because although its been accepted and you can sell it, you add the product to the marketplace after its been verified as a legitmate product. Stupid really, but anyways, it should show up in the market place by Friday I would assume.

        Great to hear you would be interested in the Aff newsletter, makes it so much easier. It will be optional sign up because I hate those publishers who make it forced so affs can get resources, its a joke.


        Originally Posted by pappyy3 View Post

        WOW

        This is a very nice looking site .... well done.

        Probably one of the nicest sites I've seen in a while (and I've seen a few).

        Your affiliate resources are absolutely fantastic .... I think others can learn a lot from what you've provided

        The only suggestion I have is same as what the others have already mentioned. Review some of the headings on your sales page and they way they are worded make them difficult to read (they don't really flow ......)

        Well done on a nice site. Wish you every success with it.
        Thank you Pappy, I am glad you like the Affiliate resources too, good to hear. Yes, Pappy thank you, I am currently in discussions with two copywriters who have been praised quite a lot from other friends and associates of mine.

        I will be taking a look today myself, because personally I never touched the sales copy yet as I only bought the site last week so I will be seeing if I can tweak it and make it better myself first, then the copy writer will be starting soon.

        Thank you Pappy, come and promote it

        Originally Posted by Barbara Eyre View Post

        Yes, to the newsletter. Something I wish all affiliate program owners did.
        Thanks Barbara, glad you think so. Thats two people now so I will probably add this today or tomorrow and see how it goes. Its an optional subscription box for more news, techniques and to just keep in touch with everyone if anyone has any problems e.t.c

        Thanks

        Originally Posted by MaggieDavid View Post

        Hi,

        Had a look at your site and quite impressed.

        Also had a look at your affiliate page, and would love to become an affiliate once you are opening this up. (Like the idea of WP blog you offer etc)

        Are you going to promote it through clickbank or other means and how much affiliate commission are you giving?

        Can you let me know when all this opened up? As I have several ideas already on how I would promote.
        Hello Maggy, thank you for your praise. Yes, the product is live on Clickbank it has been verified and accepted, just awaiting marketplace verification however you can start promoting today. The commission is 70% on $37.

        As I mentioned the product is open for promotion so please jump on it straight away. Thank you

        Originally Posted by tknoppe View Post

        I too am your target market and have been a migraine sufferer for 30 years (had a migraine today, as did my 10 yr old son). I've been to every 'ist' & 'ologist' there is, tried both daily preventative and abortive meds to stop migraines. I know all the triggers foods and common known causes, as well as what triggers migraines for *me*. I've even been in migraine studies and had the neurologist tell me I know more about migraines than he does.

        I agree with the other commenter that while your affiliate site is very impressive; the sales site - coming from the perspective of your target market - leaves me skeptical. I've already tried it all and seen it all; and this sales copy isn't tell me what I'm really buying. Is this going to be the same old stuff I already know and have tried - or is this something perhaps new and unique. If it's tell me to avoid chocolate, caffeine, nitrates, etc... been there, done that - bought the tshirt!

        I agree with the sales copy, migraines are serious and can be life threatening - which most people don't realize; but I would need more information to be assure I'm not buying more 'snake oil'.
        Thank you tknoppe, I appreciate your comments very much considering your my target market. It seems although my affiliate resources are brilliant from the target markets point of view the sales copy has something left to be desired. As I mentioned before we are now organising a copywriter to go through the page and alter/tweak it.

        However one important note I want to make is I don't want to over sell this product, I don't want to put any false claims in the sales copy and I don't want people to purchase something they are not expecting.

        My aim with the sales copy is to tell it how it is, however angle it from a sales perspective because obviously I want to sell some.

        We shall be split testing several sales copy pages over the next couple of weeks. One written/tweaked by myself, and another by a professional copywriter. I would be very interested in your comments when its done too.

        I hope in the end your sold in to purchasing a copy
        Good luck with your migraines too I understand how hard it can be.#

        Thanks again.

        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        70% according to his affiliate page under
        Affiliate Program & Product Details

        Yes a very nice site, very professional looking. Who actually designed it Will they are very talented

        Kim
        Thanks Kim, yes thats correct 70%. Thank you for your feedback, the previous owner (creator) made the theme I believe, and yes its stunning.

        Originally Posted by Justin Mandel View Post

        1. There are too many different sized fonts on your page
        2. You need more social proof
        3. You need a new sales letter that better targets your market for better conversions
        4. Great site design
        Best of Luck!
        Hello Justin thank you for your comments. OK fonts, we can sort out however do realise we need the more important information to stand out amongst the rest.

        Social proof, good idea something someone else mentioned this will be getting added soon.

        The sales letter will be getting re-done by a professional, when he comes on MSN so we can talk

        Thank you, glad you like the site design, thanks

        Originally Posted by Rezbi View Post

        Not completely convinced about the headline.

        What If You Were Able To STOP Your Migraines Once And For All Without The Use Of Medications In A Very Simple And Effective Way?

        How about:

        Who Else Wants To STOP Their Migraines Once And For All Without The Use Of Medications In A Very Simple And Effective Way?
        Thanks Rezbi, I much prefer it I shall add this today, perhaps with a couple of tweaks but excellent work.

        Originally Posted by thezone View Post

        It looks like you already have issues (one person), two links from google (when I put in your site address). In one, a "teri" states they ordered and did not get their product or the download page, and you got a scathing review from healthcentral dot com (from the same Teri (signatures matched) who must have gotten the first issue straightened out), and received the product.

        The squidoo page which "raves" about the product has similar grammatical errors found in the website, and it is so transparent that the site "owner" created it, that if anyone came across it, and went to the site, they would not be fooled, and it would do more harm then good. While most probably create their own "testimonials/reviews" they usually aren't so blatantly obvious.
        @TheZone, unfortunately when you purchase a website that is already live on Clickbank you have to take the whole site down, exchange hands and put the site back up. I am probably right in saying that the customer purchased the product during this exchange period thus being why they did not receive the product straight away. Considering it is all automated through clickbank and has to be tested to work before Clickbank verifies you. Thank you for that though, although I didn't own the product then I do want to know what his feedback is so I shall be contacting them today.

        I think I know which Squidoo page your on about, I came across it yesterday and yes I agree it is too transparent however I think this may be sorted when we change the sales copy. Thank you for your feedback its all appreciated.

        Thanks.

        Originally Posted by Rezbi View Post

        I wasn't sure whether or not to mention this but it does look odd to me.

        If those testimonials are made up you're asking for a LOT of trouble.
        The testimonials are real, the names are fake as I do not want to put their real names in to the testimonials just well I don't like to. However I can assure you the testimonials are real and are from some previous test buyers my friend has set up.

        Thank you everyone, so much for your feedback. I try and answer and explain everyones comments and criticism and I don't believe that any criticsm is bad unless its plain insulting lol. Anyways I really do appreciate this and I hope that you jump on board the product.

        The affiliate newsletter is going to be set up today as an option opt in, as I don't believe in forcing Affiliates to sign up just to get the resources they need to make their lives easier. At the end of the day I am here to make the affiliates lives as easy as possible and make them convert as quickly as possible, as I mentioned this is my first product and I still promote several other peoples products so I know all too well whats its like being an Affiliate.

        If you do subscribe to the newsletter though, what you would receive is tips and techniques, when I think of them or read about them, new promotional material when its created, entry in to any competitions we have going on and much more.

        Thanks again guys and girls.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
          Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

          The testimonials are real, the names are fake as I do not want to put their real names in to the testimonials just well I don't like to. However I can assure you the testimonials are real and are from some previous test buyers my friend has set up.
          Well then, in that case, I think you're onto a winner here.
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          • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
            Originally Posted by jplanigan View Post

            That is the most impressive affiliate page I think I have ever seen. Huge kudos to you on that. I may check back in on your product when I have some time to take on something new.

            Good luck with this.
            Thank you, I am glad you like it. Yes please do that would be great. Hope to see you promoting the product in the future.

            Originally Posted by Barbara Eyre View Post

            Many kudos to you for being so up-front about your process and what you have to go through as a result of the previous owner's attempts at sales and such. You're definitely starting the foundation of trust!

            As a testament as to how dangerous migraines can be .... here's the abbreviated story about my mother. This took place when I was 12 years old (1985).

            My mom went out to Arizona to choose a house and buy a bar so Dad and her could retire early and start their own bar (mom waitressed and bartended her whole life). Mom has suffered from migraines since I was born ... my birth messed with her hormones for some reason (I was her 3rd and last child).

            Well, just as she was about to sign the papers later that day, she got the mother of all migraines. Hotel staff worked to get her back on a plane back home to Illinois. From there she went straight into the hospital. Long story short ... her migraine created the environment for blood clots, respiratory arrest (she was allergic to the spinal blue dye), she died 3 times, a mild stroke, and seizures. She was basically out of commission for a few years due to the meds and such. So, I cooked and cleaned. Dad was a cop, who also worked extra side jobs that most cops did (crowd control security, etc). So, he wasn't able to help out much ... but his role was very important, so obviously no hard feelings there. I was in charge of giving Mom all her meds for the better part of a year. It was years before she was allowed to drive again.

            In the end, in her mid 50's ... going through menopause (and a few other things), her migraines finally ceased. For the better part of 25 years, she's been to all the possible doctors one could go to for migraines and none were able to help her.

            My sister (mid 40's now), gets bad migraines, but less so than what Mom ever did. I also get migraines, but even less so than my sister - I get a doozy about 3-5 times a year. My husband also gets them several times a year.

            Migraines can be very life threatening, in and of themselves. So, while one wants to sell products online, one has to be extremely careful about what is being advised or what products are being sold. Hence why some here are very particular about what the sales letter says. But that's a GOOD thing - cause we're only gonna make your site one of the best out there! ;-)

            Ok, off my soap box ... can't burn dinner ...
            Thank you Barbara for being so blunt and upfront, as well as sharing your story. I sent you a personal message too, thanks again.

            Originally Posted by Jackbgd View Post

            It looks great!

            Congratulations. How's it been going so far?

            The domain name is GREAT and easy to remember - you could easily do some cheap offline marketing with papers/flyers, just go to a health club or a private pharmacy and ask them if it's okay to leave a big chunk of small visit cards/papers next to the desk and tell them it's for your product. Some of them will say no, but many will say yes.

            This is a huge market - just find good websites and put up an ad over there, or contact the website owner and ask him if he wants to be an affiliate. You can also check out the radio - but that may be more expensive and also not that targeted traffic. I think that the best way this works is offline, you need to get to people in offices, homes, do some bum marketing, put the ads in their post boxes, who cares. TONS of people have migrane problems, it's a desperate niche isn't it? Also, if the product is high quality and if it really helps people - over time, it will market itself. People that buy it will talk about it to their friends that have had similar problems.

            Good luck,
            Jack
            Thank you Jack, some great tips there I especially like the idea of pharamacy's I was also thinking private doctors and hospitals perhaps. I am thinking about getting someone to distribute leaflets too, its usually £25 for 1,000 so if I converted twice I have profited, might be worth a try.

            Thanks

            Originally Posted by Rezbi View Post

            Well then, in that case, I think you're onto a winner here.
            Thanks Rezbi, I hope so
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              Thank you Jack, some great tips there I especially like the idea of pharamacy's I was also thinking private doctors and hospitals perhaps.
              That's not worth your time pursuing unless you get some testimonials from reputable medical authorities first.

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                • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
                  Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

                  It's certainly a nicely designed site, and I don't think I've ever seen better-looking affiliate aids.

                  It wouldn't hurt to run a spellcheck on the whole site, though (it will pick up "dissapearn", for "disappear") and some other errors.
                  Thank you Alexa, as for the spell check I would be doing however we are currently getting a professional to re-write the sales copy at the current moment so we should have a new and improved sales copy in the next few days which will mean increased conversions.

                  However I shall run a spell check now, because I hate mispelled words

                  Thanks
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    Thank you everyone up to now, I was also wondering if anyone had any offline ideas for promoting a migraine product and whether it would work?
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      Many kudos to you for being so up-front about your process and what you have to go through as a result of the previous owner's attempts at sales and such. You're definitely starting the foundation of trust!

      As a testament as to how dangerous migraines can be .... here's the abbreviated story about my mother. This took place when I was 12 years old (1985).

      My mom went out to Arizona to choose a house and buy a bar so Dad and her could retire early and start their own bar (mom waitressed and bartended her whole life). Mom has suffered from migraines since I was born ... my birth messed with her hormones for some reason (I was her 3rd and last child).

      Well, just as she was about to sign the papers later that day, she got the mother of all migraines. Hotel staff worked to get her back on a plane back home to Illinois. From there she went straight into the hospital. Long story short ... her migraine created the environment for blood clots, respiratory arrest (she was allergic to the spinal blue dye), she died 3 times, a mild stroke, and seizures. She was basically out of commission for a few years due to the meds and such. So, I cooked and cleaned. Dad was a cop, who also worked extra side jobs that most cops did (crowd control security, etc). So, he wasn't able to help out much ... but his role was very important, so obviously no hard feelings there. I was in charge of giving Mom all her meds for the better part of a year. It was years before she was allowed to drive again.

      In the end, in her mid 50's ... going through menopause (and a few other things), her migraines finally ceased. For the better part of 25 years, she's been to all the possible doctors one could go to for migraines and none were able to help her.

      My sister (mid 40's now), gets bad migraines, but less so than what Mom ever did. I also get migraines, but even less so than my sister - I get a doozy about 3-5 times a year. My husband also gets them several times a year.

      Migraines can be very life threatening, in and of themselves. So, while one wants to sell products online, one has to be extremely careful about what is being advised or what products are being sold. Hence why some here are very particular about what the sales letter says. But that's a GOOD thing - cause we're only gonna make your site one of the best out there! ;-)

      Ok, off my soap box ... can't burn dinner ...
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  • Profile picture of the author jplanigan
    That is the most impressive affiliate page I think I have ever seen. Huge kudos to you on that. I may check back in on your product when I have some time to take on something new.

    Good luck with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackbgd
    Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

    Hello guys, firstly I would like to say I am looking forward to the replies as this Forum is one of the only forums to offer both online and offline advice.

    Anyways, I have a new product related to Migraines, which solves the problem of having Migraines and relieves them.

    I am currently researching how to get affiliates on board, however I am also looking at testing the product more myself, although I've used some techniques already I am always looking for new techniques.

    Basically I would like to know what techniques you have, offline and online for advertising a migraine related product?

    The website is; The Migraine Relief | The Most Complete, Effective, Simple and 100% Natural System Against Migraines

    Thank you everyone.

    Will.
    It looks great!

    Congratulations. How's it been going so far?

    The domain name is GREAT and easy to remember - you could easily do some cheap offline marketing with papers/flyers, just go to a health club or a private pharmacy and ask them if it's okay to leave a big chunk of small visit cards/papers next to the desk and tell them it's for your product. Some of them will say no, but many will say yes.

    This is a huge market - just find good websites and put up an ad over there, or contact the website owner and ask him if he wants to be an affiliate. You can also check out the radio - but that may be more expensive and also not that targeted traffic. I think that the best way this works is offline, you need to get to people in offices, homes, do some bum marketing, put the ads in their post boxes, who cares. TONS of people have migrane problems, it's a desperate niche isn't it? Also, if the product is high quality and if it really helps people - over time, it will market itself. People that buy it will talk about it to their friends that have had similar problems.

    Good luck,
    Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    Has anyone tried promoting digital products with their local papers and if so has anyone had any luck? I was considering promoting this in the local papers, either on a page or as a leaflet added inside the paper?

    Any views.
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    Thank you everyone. Just an update:

    We have now added an Affiliate newsletter to the affiliate page (optional) for Affiliates to keep in contact with us and vica versa, it helps us to build a rapport with our affiliates as we respect them very much and want to help them out as much as we can.

    Also we have added the Internet marketing guides section however none of the guides are complete yet, this will take a couple of weeks more.

    Please take a look;

    The Migraine Relief Affiliate Program
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