Are YOU someone's private ATM?? THE REAL DEAL lol

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Wow....to show what some of these "gurus" really think about the dedicated people who pay for their stuff.....they must think they are saps right?

so disrespectful.....do you want to be their "private atm"??

I signed up for some "free reports" - on a different special email address...just to see...and wow..the funnels never stop...LOL>> it is pretty ridiculous but this letter takes the cake
my comments in red LOL

3 ways to turn the Warrior Forum into Your Personal Atm...

#1 - Market Research - If you have an existing product, here's some easy ways to make it even more profitable.
(in other words drag it out and make the most of it LOL)

#2 - New Product Ideas - Give people what they crave, not what you "think" they want. You'll sell way more.
Since most of them crave quick big money and don't want to work for it, yeah tell them you will show them how EVEN THO YOU HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED THIS YOURSELF

#3 - Gun to Your Head Offers - How to create a new offer fast which has your unforseen medical bill, late rent notice, or your kids best birthday party ever taken care of without any sweat.

ROFLOL>>>> all the big talk....all the dynamite guru ....and "late rent notice">> JMO that might be more realistic than most offers haha....so funny

well maybe YOU want to be someone's "Private ATM" but not me Gun to your head - might explain why some churn out stuff that they probably never have really personally done..just going to the atm of dreamers
#atm #deal #lol #private #real
  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    99% of the posts in the War Room are just internet marketers giving away really low quality freebies as the intro to their marketing funnels.

    Welcome to the Warrior Forum. Basically what you'll find here is 80% of users are noobs who get scammed, 19% of users are scammers selling low quality regurgitated "how to make money" content to the 80%, and 1% of users are actually people who know what they're talking about and contribute to other people without trying to sell them something.
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    • Profile picture of the author nmwf
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      1% of users are actually people who know what they're talking about and contribute to other people without trying to sell them something.
      And then there are those who know what they're talking about and who contribute but are trying to sell something. This is a marketing forum. If people aren't buying, they're selling.

      It's marketing.

      On the Warrior Forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
        Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

        And then there are those who know what they're talking about and who contribute but are trying to sell something. This is a marketing forum. If people aren't buying, they're selling.

        It's marketing.

        On the Warrior Forum.
        A marketing forum for marketing to marketers.

        It's kind of weird if you think about it. Kind of like a plumbing forum where all of the plumbers try to sell pluming services to one another.
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        • Profile picture of the author nmwf
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          A marketing forum for marketing to marketers.

          It's kind of weird if you think about it. Kind of like a plumbing forum where all of the plumbers try to sell pluming services to one another.
          It's not weird at all. Every trade has its own set of required tools, resources, knowledge, training, etc. etc. And since no man is an island, people need help with finding, acquiring, and applying those things. Nothing that we do is isolated, and that includes marketing.

          And plumbing.

          Where does the plumber, after all, get his tools? Training? Permits? Uniform? Lunch? Health insurance? Yada, yada, yada...
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          • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
            Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

            It's not weird at all. Every trade has its own set of required tools, resources, knowledge, training, etc. etc. And since no man is an island, people need help with finding, acquiring, and applying those things. Nothing that we do is isolated, and that includes marketing.

            And plumbing.

            Where does the plumber, after all, get his tools? Training? Permits? Uniform? Lunch? Health insurance? Yada, yada, yada...

            No actually I have been on other professional forums and there is a place for marketing...
            here the place would be the WSO offers section and the Warrior for hire etc sections

            what I see here are desperate people who dig up old threads to add "their" sales pitch to it

            It would be nice to be able to discuss online - and offline (my fav) marketing problems and techniques without someone shoving something in your face

            It is desperate and stupid and if their "guru" told them to do it shame on him/her LOL

            I had to laugh yesterday a newbie came in and spammed various threads with links to a site in Russian....haha

            Any decent marketer would not be so desperate and silly and annoying. People should beware of those who only give "self serving" selling their product spiels and pass it off as "advice". Then again..maybe some enjoy being the "private atm" so some other guru can pay their "late rent" haha
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            • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
              Originally Posted by Freebiequeen1999 View Post

              No actually I have been on other professional forums and there is a place for marketing...
              here the place would be the WSO offers section and the Warrior for hire etc sections

              what I see here are desperate people who dig up old threads to add "their" sales pitch to it

              It would be nice to be able to discuss online - and offline (my fav) marketing problems and techniques without someone shoving something in your face

              It is desperate and stupid and if their "guru" told them to do it shame on him/her LOL

              I had to laugh yesterday a newbie came in and spammed various threads with links to a site in Russian....haha

              Any decent marketer would not be so desperate and silly and annoying. People should beware of those who only give "self serving" selling their product spiels and pass it off as "advice". Then again..maybe some enjoy being the "private atm" so some other guru can pay their "late rent" haha
              *sigh*......
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            • Profile picture of the author nmwf
              Originally Posted by Freebiequeen1999 View Post

              No actually I have been on other professional forums and there is a place for marketing...
              here the place would be the WSO offers section and the Warrior for hire etc sections

              what I see here are desperate people who dig up old threads to add "their" sales pitch to it

              It would be nice to be able to discuss online - and offline (my fav) marketing problems and techniques without someone shoving something in your face

              It is desperate and stupid and if their "guru" told them to do it shame on him/her LOL

              I had to laugh yesterday a newbie came in and spammed various threads with links to a site in Russian....haha

              Any decent marketer would not be so desperate and silly and annoying. People should beware of those who only give "self serving" selling their product spiels and pass it off as "advice". Then again..maybe some enjoy being the "private atm" so some other guru can pay their "late rent" haha
              Well, the good news is that this forum has an ignore list. Mine is quite active. You might want to try it. It really makes things around here less stressful.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist
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          • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
            Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

            It's not weird at all. Every trade has its own set of required tools, resources, knowledge, training, etc. etc. And since no man is an island, people need help with finding, acquiring, and applying those things. Nothing that we do is isolated, and that includes marketing.

            And plumbing.

            Where does the plumber, after all, get his tools? Training? Permits? Uniform? Lunch? Health insurance? Yada, yada, yada...
            Then why is pretty much every banner every day at the top of this forum have to do with get rich quick schemes?
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            • Profile picture of the author nmwf
              Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

              Then why is pretty much every banner every day at the top of this forum have to do with get rich quick schemes?
              I suppose because some marketers, who buy marketing stuff from other marketers, want to market to other marketers quickly and richly.

              {shrugging shoulders}
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      • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
        Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

        If people aren't buying, they're selling.

        It's marketing.

        On the Warrior Forum.
        Except people like me who don't sell products in the IM niche. I don't have anything I could possibly sell in this forum. I'm only here because I like to talk and read about internet marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
          Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

          Except people like me who don't sell products in the IM niche. I don't have anything I could possibly sell in this forum. I'm only here because I like to talk and read about internet marketing.
          Me too. I actually do work offline and have real world clients. But then I am comfortable online,in person, on phone and have some skills to offer and sell
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I blame myself, not the Guru's.
          But also - you've been here since 2005. We had a lot of quality stuff back then as WSO's...not even close to what is offered there now. 1000 WSOs over a ten year period just isn't all that bad to me.

          I do appreciate the OP's main point which is "due diligence" but we've been advising that here for years. Nothing has changed - wherever there are gullible people willing to buy dreams...there will be dream sellers willing to take advantage of them.

          This is supposedly (and I do question that at times) a forum of adults. If you buy 2-3 bad WSOs and waste $50 or less...you should be smart enough to realize it's not working as you dreamed it might. Most people are smart enough to have a wakeup call at some point ...some never do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
    Originally Posted by Freebiequeen1999 View Post

    Wow....to show what some of these "gurus" really think about the dedicated people who pay for their stuff.....they must think they are saps right?

    so disrespectful.....do you want to be their "private atm"??

    I signed up for some "free reports" - on a different special email address...just to see...and wow..the funnels never stop...LOL>> it is pretty ridiculous but this letter takes the cake
    my comments in red LOL

    3 ways to turn the Warrior Forum into Your Personal Atm...

    #1 - Market Research - If you have an existing product, here's some easy ways to make it even more profitable.
    (in other words drag it out and make the most of it LOL)

    #2 - New Product Ideas - Give people what they crave, not what you "think" they want. You'll sell way more.
    Since most of them crave quick big money and don't want to work for it, yeah tell them you will show them how EVEN THO YOU HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED THIS YOURSELF

    #3 - Gun to Your Head Offers - How to create a new offer fast which has your unforseen medical bill, late rent notice, or your kids best birthday party ever taken care of without any sweat.

    ROFLOL>>>> all the big talk....all the dynamite guru ....and "late rent notice">> JMO that might be more realistic than most offers haha....so funny

    well maybe YOU want to be someone's "Private ATM" but not me Gun to your head - might explain why some churn out stuff that they probably never have really personally done..just going to the atm of dreamers

    I hear you all the time complaining about what everyone else is doing wrong.

    Why don't you focus on what you're doing wrong instead.
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I almost pee'd my pants. :-)

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author RonBartling
    Actually the advise you mock is practical advise even if they coached it in unflattering language; personal atm.

    Give people what they want, not what you think they want. And adding urgency to your offer - a.k.a. gun to the head - is a proven marketing method.

    I try to ignore the hype and gleam the underlying lesson.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
    These guru's are nothing but Gary Halbert Wannabee's who know that newbies on the warrior forum are a starving crowd so they create any old mush to sell them. Never mind the quality. As long as it's wrapped in shiny packaging and the samples morsels they toss to the herd tastes good. I have over 1000 WSO's and very few of them have made me any money. And it's not from a lack of trying. They are selling dreams and regurgitate, repackaged schemes to what they call the trailer trash market. Who cares if the people who make up the market are like dumb sheep, they deserve to be fleeced. That's what their here for right? Looking to get fleeced. They want to buy push button schemes that require no real work and all want to turn their computers into ATM machines so the guru's sell them what they want. So don't blame the guru's.... they are simply filling a demand and giving people what they want.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

      I have over 1000 WSO's

      Steve,

      Seek therapy . . .

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author nmwf
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        Steve,

        Seek therapy . . .

        Steve
        LOL (more like LMAO!)
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    • Profile picture of the author nmwf
      Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

      These guru's are nothing but Gary Halbert Wannabee's who know that newbies on the warrior forum are a starving crowd so they create any old mush to sell them. Never mind the quality. As long as it's wrapped in shiny packaging and the samples morsels they toss to the herd tastes good. I have over 1000 WSO's and very few of them have made me any money. And it's not from a lack of trying. They are selling dreams and regurgitate, repackaged schemes to what they call the trailer trash market. Who cares if the people who make up the market are like dumb sheep, they deserve to be fleeced. That's what their here for right? Looking to get fleeced. They want to buy push button schemes that require no real work and all want to turn their computers into ATM machines so the guru's sell them what they want. So don't blame the guru's.... they are simply filling a demand and giving people what they want.
      Okay...

      So, if I understand this correctly, you are one of these victims? Having bought 1,000+ WSO's that didn't make you any money? And you don't blame the gurus who told you they would?

      Or is it...

      Having sold 1,000+ WSO's that didn't make you any money? And you don't blame the gurus who told you they would?

      That's an awful lot of WSO's that didn't make you any money. But (according to your view) that's OK! Cause... you can't... blame... the gurus... who told you they would.

      Right?

      {shrugging shoulders}
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
        Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

        Okay...

        So, if I understand this correctly, you are one of these victims? Having bought 1,000+ WSO's that didn't make you any money? And you don't blame the gurus who told you they would?

        Or is it...

        Having sold 1,000+ WSO's that didn't make you any money? And you don't blame the gurus who told you they would?

        That's an awful lot of WSO's that didn't make you any money. But (according to your view) that's OK! Cause... you can't... blame... the gurus... who told you they would.

        Right?

        {shrugging shoulders}
        That's right... but it's my responsibility. No one held a gun to my head and forced me to buy anything. I make a boat load of money shooting and selling portraits and have the money to be someone else's personal ATM. I found a handful of WSO's that worked for me but the majority that did aren't online IM schemes. So I blame myself for falling for both the crap and the good stuff. That's why I seldom ever ask for a refund. If you blame the Guru's you are given your power away.
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        • Profile picture of the author nmwf
          Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

          That's right... but it's my responsibility. No one held a gun to my head and forced me to buy anything. I make a boat load of money shooting and selling portraits and have the money to be someone else's personal ATM. I found a handful of WSO's that worked for me but the majority that did aren't online IM schemes. So I blame myself for falling for both the crap and the good stuff. That's why I seldom ever ask for a refund. If you blame the Guru's you are given your power away.
          Oh, I understand now. I just wonder if you had gone for 2,000 or 3,000 WSO's, perhaps you would have finally found success.

          I mean, why stop at 1,000+? Giving up at 1,000+ just seems so... so... well. You know.
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          • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
            Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

            Oh, I understand now. I just wonder if you had gone for 2,000 or 3,000 WSO's, perhaps you would have finally found success.

            I mean, why stop at 1,000+? Giving up at 1,000+ just seems so... so... well. You know.
            Yep... dumb and stupid. Some people waste their money and time buying and reading romance or science fiction novels. I waste mine on WSO's. The only thing that has really ever worked for me is creating and selling my own products, not buying WSO's. So again, I blame myself, not the Guru's.
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            • Profile picture of the author nmwf
              Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

              Yep... dumb and stupid. Some people waste their money and time buying and reading romance or science fiction novels. I waste mine on WSO's. The only thing that has really ever worked for me is creating and selling my own products, not buying WSO's. So again, I blame myself, not the Guru's.
              Well, I sincerely hope things work out for you. Your website looks like a lot of fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
    Seriously......while I think there are some good programs - more like software, wp theme, graphics, plr , plug ins...I also think there is a whole lot of the "blind leading the blind"

    I have zero respect for the cynical idea of looking at people on these forums as your own "private atm"

    I really question the idea that we need MORE reports, plans etc...especially from unknown, never made a dime online before people.

    I have seen first hand people on here who have failed miserably at IM and offline yet they buy into a "guru" who will show them how to "make your own wso in 24 hours...make your sales funnel...get tons of affiliates"...all for what? what do they know or offer? a rehash (yes buy a content spinner and spin away LOL)

    I would say this is all the more reason to do your own "due dilligence"

    I saw a "be a social media manager" program , quite expensive..so I googled the guru....her own blog had not been updated since 2014.....her own facebook was a sorry mess of duck face selfies of her and friends drinking and her hanging on guys.....ROFLOL

    another "guru" has a method to upgrade a facebook profile - and she actually gave examples of her "clients">>> but...when you went to the page the "clients" were doing nothing with her wonderful system....nothing...they had quit it, "didn't work" the one emailed me when I asked him


    I saw another "offline" report and I took it upon myself to email or pm a few folks who had praised it....2 replied...neither doing it, both said the support was nada, not good

    I just saw a pretty interesting 'offline' report and it had about 8 happy campers complete with their website links so being a curious person I looked at the pages...NOT ONE WAS WORKING OFFLINE

    they were all selling their own and others "products" ...all seeming to be in a circle....you scratch my back I will scratch yours haha...each promoting the others

    Makes me feel - they are just selling stuff....and laughing ...and using desperate and dreaming people as their own "private atm"

    I suggest that google is your friend
    look before you leap
    easy to talk the talk....find out who walks the walk JMO
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  • Profile picture of the author idiots89
    Well everybody's gotta be somebody's bitch before actually learning how to crawl and then walk. Even when you're a baby you're a the mercy of your parents.

    Some parents are good, some aren't even qualified to be parents and should be shot on the spot.

    It's the same with online marketing gurus. You gotta be someone's bitch before you learn to run.

    Sometimes those 'gurus' are not deserving of having a harem of bitches, but some are.

    So your attitude is completely misguided.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
      Originally Posted by idiots89 View Post

      Well everybody's gotta be somebody's bitch before actually learning how to crawl and then walk. Even when you're a baby you're a the mercy of your parents.

      Some parents are good, some aren't even qualified to be parents and should be shot on the spot.

      It's the same with online marketing gurus. You gotta be someone's bitch before you learn to run.

      Sometimes those 'gurus' are not deserving of having a harem of bitches, but some are.

      So your attitude is completely misguided.
      Thanks for adding that unique and wholesome perspective to the discussion

      Why it opens up an entirely new dimension for the term "mentoring", doesn't it?

      Oh, and a word of advice if I may...don't drop the soap.
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      • Profile picture of the author idiots89
        Originally Posted by Ron Lafuddy View Post

        Thanks for adding that unique and wholesome perspective to the discussion

        Why it opens up an entirely new dimension for the term "mentoring", doesn't it?

        Oh, and a word of advice if I may...don't drop the soap.
        Apologies if I offended you in any way, shape or form (pun intended).

        You know what they say, the truth hurts the most. I like it when language is raw and not sugar coated. I like to take a good whiff of the bs from up close and personal.

        The world we live in has softened down the language with political correctness from the real words which ought to be spoken.

        Oh no, honey everybody is a winner. Don't worry, your kid ain't dumb, he's just got a learning disorder.

        Oh no, honey you're not broke, you just have a negative cashflow position.
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        • Profile picture of the author wealthy20
          Originally Posted by idiots89 View Post

          Apologies if I offended you in any way, shape or form (pun intended).

          You know what they say, the truth hurts the most. I like it when language is raw and not sugar coated. I like to take a good whiff of the bs from up close and personal.

          The world we live in has softened down the language with political correctness from the real words which ought to be spoken.

          Oh no, honey everybody is a winner. Don't worry, your kid ain't dumb, he's just got a learning disorder.

          Oh no, honey you're not broke, you just have a negative cashflow position.
          LMAO...Post of the year right here ^^^^^ I can picture you from my monitor saying those last 2 phrases in a squeeky sarcastic annoying troll voice.

          "Oh no honey, that marketing guru isn't treating you like his own personal ATM, he's just servicing the account!"

          LOL
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          • Profile picture of the author wealthy20
            This is how legends are made.

            I love it when someone with a rude handle such as yours, manages to pull off some stunt, instead of crashing and burning. Sry to the op, or to whomever that comment was directed to. I feel for ya!

            Just 1 question @idiots89 "Which jim beam number are you on sir? 5th, 6th?!"
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnGravelle
    So true man, most people won't even know that they are being taken advantage of!
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnBarela
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    Great point OP, Curtis also nailed it, it's sad but very true!
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