From one Newbie to another...

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"Get a mentor" They say, "invest in your learning" They say..


..I've seen this advice a lot.


Investing in tools to learn from is something I agree with!!


The problem is there are so many people on here that are offering the same "buy into my system."


They'll PM you, "I have valuable information to get you started and I want to help you out of the kindness of my heart." LOL


They all look exactly the same; the webpage, The same videos of "look how much I made this month, the "Please don't leave this page" popup.


A part of me regrets making the "Newbie announcement". I basically just announced that I was a potential easy target for a bunch of people on here so I brought it on myself.

Anyone else experiencing this as well?



If you still don't think you're confused enough yet, go look at WSO



I recently read a tip saying NOT to buy every WSO.
Well of course not.

I get it, So where is the "suggested" reading List ???


Why is ALL of WSO THE "Suggested list" ?!
ALL of it!!!


The reviews in WSO are the SAME people and those same people are the ones that are promoting one of their own offers. One hand washes the other.
"I'll praise yours if you praise mine". Ever notice it's like the same 10 people who happened to "get a free copy to write a review" ?!

How do you get to the GOOD stuff??


Why isn't this talked about anywhere?


There should be a "Warning to all Newbies" sticky or something!
#newbie
  • Profile picture of the author rseigel
    It's widely known (unfortunately) among internet marketers that you can make a TON of money off of noobs here.

    I'd recommend something a bit different.

    Resell Rights Weekly :: Free Private Label Rights Products :: FREE MEMBERSHIP

    I have no stake in it and this is not an affiliate link.

    What I like about it is it's only $20/month AND you get a TON of access to great IM products (you don't have to want to sell them to use the information).

    Mark (the owner) is a stand up guy and there's a decent enough community there that are willing to help.

    Just my .02. I find WF more of a time sucker than anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrentGarett
    well said, I have seen the same thing going on too, it's sad but this is how new age marketing is done now! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author richpeasant
    Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

    They all look exactly the same; the webpage,
    The same videos of "look how much I made this month, the "Please don't leave
    this page" popup.
    Reminds me of something an Internet Marketer I respect and have done for
    years once wrote..

    When I see the crowds charging, I step aside into the doorway, let them
    pass, and then walk in the opposite direction.


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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    LOL Richpeasant!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Get off the Warrior Forum if you want to learn how to actually build a business and not get rich quick. This place is designed to keep people buying WSOs. The original owner was a crafty gypsy.

    You can find some gold here, but if you don't know what you're digging for you're going to end up frustrated pretty quick. You already know you primed the pump, gurus inbound.

    95% of what is here is designed to make the seller money, and you're supposed to learn that their business model is based off marketing to marketers.

    Learn copywriting, email marketing, blogging, how to reach influencers in your market, and how to buy ads without losing your shirt. Then put those skills together to come up with your own business model that makes you money.

    There's information freely available on all of those topics. There's a few transparent (as they can be) bloggers who you can actually trust. Brian Dean, Pat Flynn, Spencer Haws, Stuart Walker, Ben Settle, Yaro Starak they're in it for the long haul.

    Most of the WSOs here repeat what's already been said on those sites, or those sites will pick up the method and publish it once it's actually proven to be legit.
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      There's information freely available on all of those topics. There's a few transparent (as they can be) bloggers who you can actually trust. Brian Dean, Pat Flynn, Spencer Haws, Stuart Walker, Ben Settle, Yaro Starak they're in it for the long haul.
      We've been through four or five generations of these "gurus" since the boom era of the internet. I don't see anything about this current group that leads me to believe they are going to be the ones who finally turn newbies into success stories.

      These guys just took the "quick" out of "get rich quick scheme." Everything else remains. Same product in a new package that seems more legit.... until the masses wise up and a new generation of sellers steps in with something "more legit" and all of the above names go by the wayside.

      It has been the same thing over and over for 15+ years. The same types of "gurus" and the same types of newbies. But the truth is, they are perfect for one another. Just a bunch of fools all around.
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      • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
        DubDub,


        Yes, I did not read too much into yet, was just a quick observation, But with more interest I would totally ask those details.


        Now, I appreciate your feedback on all these said "guru's" because that's some clarification that we all need to not go down the wrong path.




        BUT This comment....


        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        The same types of "gurus" and the same types of newbies. But the truth is, they are perfect for one another. Just a bunch of fools all around.


        I mean was that really necessary? Just because someone doesn't have prior experience in a certain area makes them a fool now?
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        • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
          Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

          I mean was that really necessary? Just because someone doesn't have prior experience in a certain area makes them a fool now?
          There are a few different types of newbies. Only one specific type of newbie falls for the stereotypical "make money online" scam again and again.

          There are actually previous cases on this forum dating back many years (multiple cases that I am aware of) where victims have spent $10,000+ in total on info products and fake coaching and never once questioned the legitimacy of these scammers. It's usually spread out over a multi-year period. You have got to stop and ask yourself why they spent that kind of money over such a long period of time without ever seeing results.

          But that's really no different than the broke newbie that reads the forums, blogs, lists, etc. for years and years without actually paying money for the get rich quick scams. There is still a huge time investment. Why do they continue to consume all of that fake guru info for years and years without ever seeing results?

          It's just a certain type of newbie and it's one that never had any chance of success to begin with.... It's the newbie that the "internet marketing" house of cards is built upon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Xanryuu
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post


      There's information freely available on all of those topics. There's a few transparent (as they can be) bloggers who you can actually trust. Brian Dean, Pat Flynn, Spencer Haws, Stuart Walker, Ben Settle, Yaro Starak they're in it for the long haul.

      Most of the WSOs here repeat what's already been said on those sites, or those sites will pick up the method and publish it once it's actually proven to be legit.
      I think I've just hit an information gold mine with this. Thanks Synnuh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

    How do you get to the GOOD stuff??
    Much of the good stuff is gleaned by observing what successful Internet Marketers are doing more than by buying something they are teaching.

    For example, rather than buy a lot of email marketing products when I first started, I signed up to as many IM lists as possible and actually studied what headlines sellers were using to get me to open their emails, what pitches they were using in the body of their emails, and what bonuses they were giving away and so on...

    I also signed up as an affiliate to a lot of products I had no intention of promoting so I could follow the leaderboards of affiliate contests to find out who the top affiliates were, then find something they had on offer so I could sign up to their lists and then did a lot of comparisons between them and less successful affiliates.

    I used the Warrior Forum advanced search to look up questions people were asking about specific topics, saved those searches as whole web pages, and started categorizing the questions and issues so I could tailor my marketing pitches later.

    That's just a few examples. I have every sales page saved to my desktop that has ever impressed me over the past 4 years or so, and I've downloaded every sales video that has impressed me over about the past 2 years. Those are categorized too and I've pulled groups of them up at various times to study and apply.

    That's how I started succeeding with email marketing and affiliate marketing, but it's just a small example. My primary business is offline marketing related, as I found that to be the most profitable. Everything else I do is a long term side experiment, but profitable as well so far.

    Newbies get confused here because even though it is a place where you can get a lot of useful information, it's also a marketing arena where everyone is trying to make money from everyone else.

    So along with good information, you'll get garbage information and parroted information from people who are simply trying to get more signature exposure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Miss Kitty,

      There really is everything you need to be successful right here on the Warrior Forum . . . but, as you have seen . . . there is also much fluff, junk, "I'm your buddy and I want to help" horse doodoo.

      Spend some time on the forum . . . watch . . . listen . . . observe what's going on . . . participate in the discussions that interest you. It won't take too long before you'll begin to recognize which Warriors are helpful and knowledgeable and which are only after a sale. You'll quickly learn what is important and what is just wannabe talk.

      Don't spend money until you have a solid plan in place for your business . . . and only then should you purchase those things that will make sense in your long term business plans and goals.

      Having a mentor can be a good thing but beware (as with any other purchase). If you think you want a mentor, find someone that many others recommend and be sure he/she has made money with the business model you plan to use. So, for example, if you want to create a paid membership site, find a mentor who has experience with membership sites and that has been profitable with them. Most mentors aren't great with all the possible business models there are so find one that knows your business intention.

      Newbies can survive and even thrive here . . . but you have to understand that this is a public forum and very few folks here actually run profitable Internet businesses. But many people here will be happy to sell you their attempt at being successful!

      The very best to you,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Synnuh, Thanks for the great tips and info resources. I saved all of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Joan Altz, those are all awesome tips and tricks to make use of. And they are also very creative learning methods as well.


    The learning and studying part is something I'm aware of, and I think there's a lot of Noobs who feel the same and are more in touch with that reality than the "get rich quick fantasy"


    I think the major road block for all of us, is knowing WHO to study from as we don't yet have that experience to differentiate the truth from the BS all the time.
    I've been here about 2 weeks, and I noticed the predator game going on, but I'm sure that's just the tip of it.


    When you don't know much and come in, so many things and people sound like they REALLY know what they're talking about and this is where the major problem is. You spend so much time investigating each thing, to just realize it's another BS money maker.


    I'm also willing to invest money in my own studying and would be open to a mentor or coaching program. That is why I think I've gotten so frustrated! I have my head in the right place, but I'm also trying to heavily avoid throwing away money and time.


    I try to be as logical as I can, and even when you're doing everything right it always comes down to the fact that us Noobs just sometimes don't know any better, and don't know where to look.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Steve B, Thanks, that is some really great advice!


    The thing about coming up with a business plan THEN spending the money really struck me.


    I felt like because I don't know much, I would learn the material first before even making the business plan.


    When the time comes and I am ready to find a mentor, where do I go to ask for good recommendations that can actually be trusted?
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    • Profile picture of the author richpeasant
      Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

      When the time comes and I am ready to find a mentor, where do I go to ask for good recommendations that can actually be trusted?
      You go to your intuition and how you resonate with someone.

      Since the late 90s I've found my greatest inspiration comes from two
      marketers, both British - Phil Gosling and Tony Shepherd. They
      resonate refreshing originality and down to earth truth rather than
      B.S. And have proven track records.

      Phil Gosling has an Ebook University and Tony Shepherd has a blog
      as well as other projects. Google both and learn what you can from
      them.

      Newbies often lack confidence more than anything else, and these
      two will inspire you without you even having to pay a penny to start.

      It's said people stop thinking for themselves the moment they
      are born. I think most people stop thinking for themselves the
      moment they enter internet marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author SudeshGamage
    Hi QTeeKitty.

    I totally get you. I'm also a newbie and I have wasted so much money on some "not-so-great" products not so long ago.

    Well, I can't say it's a complete waste, because I learned a lot about myself by spending on those products. Some products, I spent money, but never took action upon. Some, I never even completed the course. So it is part my fault as well. But I learned a lot from those products as well.

    So best thing you could do it pick one niche and stick to it. Don't just go buying WSOs. First do some research on your own. And YouTube is one of the best resources I used when I was a newbie. You can get some amazing free content there, as many of us know.

    So before spending, gather knowledge using all the free available resources. And also hand around in Warrior Forum because you can pick up some great gold nuggets from other people's experiences as well.

    But I gotta tell you, having a mentor is the main thing which helped me to go past that "wondering around' stage and do something for real.

    Not everyone can be considered as a mentor. Go find someone who has a proven track record of your selected niche. Don't just go invest in their program. Ask questions from them. Find out how they can help you.

    But I believe, it is essential to have a mentor, because good mentors will hold you by your hand and work with you until you become successful.

    Another thing is, killing the procrastination. A lot of newbies, included myself, have this and it is a dream killer.

    Get into a habit of taking consistent action. Action is the first step in achieving results. Massive Action = Massive Results.

    Wish you all the best for your future endeavors,
    Sudesh.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Sudesh, Nice to meet another Noob, or former Noob!


    As far as my research before I buy, it always turns into a dead end. This is where I am going in circles.


    How did you find your mentor that helped you? What was it for?


    I am good with the sense that I don't have much of a procrastination problem, but I haven't yet been able to take any action.
    I want to take action, I just can't blow my investment money unwisely. Does that make sense?


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    • Profile picture of the author SudeshGamage
      Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

      Sudesh, Nice to meet another Noob, or former Noob!


      As far as my research before I buy, it always turns into a dead end. This is where I am going in circles.


      How did you find your mentor that helped you? What was it for?


      I am good with the sense that I don't have much of a procrastination problem, but I haven't yet been able to take any action.
      I want to take action, I just can't blow my investment money unwisely. Does that make sense?


      It's pleasure meeting you too! :-)

      And I totally understand. It is so hard to part with our hard earned money.


      And I found my mentor as a result of a small product I purchased.

      I purchased a guide to Bing traffic and the owner of that product held a webinar one day. In that webinar he showed us many cool things and it was about product launches and email marketing.

      So I signed up and I even launched my first small product yesterday.

      My mentor kept me pushing and helped me to take action in the right direction.

      So when you find the niche you want to follow, ask people for recommendations for a good mentor.

      And don't spend your money until you find all about him or her and you are 100% confident that you are really interested in this field (for me it's product creation and email marketing after seeing that webinar).

      And also make a promise to yourself that if you spend money on this mentoring, you're gonna put more than 100% of your effort and fully commit to it until you become successful.

      Some mentors are only there for 2 months, 3 months or so..

      So it is best to find a mentor who is willing to spend his/her time with you until you become successful.

      Hope this helps.

      And keep taking action and keep looking. We're here because we're not like many others who wants to be financially free, but never do anything about it. We're at least searching for an opportunity. So never give up and I'm sure you'll find success soon enough.

      Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
      Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

      How did you find your mentor that helped you? What was it for?
      My honest opinion is to forget about finding a mentor, you're certainly not going to get one to help you free of charge and most likely a large % of the so called mentors on this forum are fakers and aren't worth 2 cents.

      Besides that, mentors were originally designed to get you to the next level after you have already learned the basics and it makes my skin crawl when I see members giving newbies advice such as getting yourself a mentor. Stay on this forum and soak up what you can, learn to constantly use the search function as I can guarantee that any question that you may have has already been asked.

      As far as those who have pm'd you, I can almost guarantee that none of them have posted in this thread and many who have given you advice on this thread are genuinely here to help you, like I said most and in time you'll be able to read between the lines and immediately know who's full of themselves and who is not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Riki Stein
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        My honest opinion is to forget about finding a mentor, you're certainly not going to get one to help you free of charge

        Besides that, mentors were originally designed to get you to the next level after you have already learned the basics
        That's right. A mentor will cost a few thousand dollars, and you'd better not hire one til you really know what you want out of that mentor.

        More reasonable would be a bona fide training program, where the course creator is readily available to help you overcome hurdles, answer questions, provide feedback on your work.

        Even better where there is a community of other people who are taking the same program - that benefit is enormous, I have to say.

        Such as Sara Young's new training. It's not a WSO (i.e. not dirt cheap), but affordable, and people who signed up have gotten results immediately (which is actually how she designed her course - start with immediate income, build up from there to passive income, then build your list, get traffic, etc.)

        As a general rule of thumb: if something sounds very hypey, chances are it's just that: hyped-up fluff. Try to look past the hype and the "trigger words" and see what the product is really all about.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Rich, Thanks, I just saved the information about those two suggestions!
    I just got all excited that you said "E-book university" from someone you actually trust!!!
    Some faith has been restored! lol
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    • Profile picture of the author richpeasant
      What I like about these guys is they don't charge an arm and a leg, and there's no
      B.S or hype. I remember both when they were offline while the internet was
      taking off, and almost every sentence they wrote was like gold dust.

      Those were the days.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    I am really connecting with this Tony Shepherd guy! I'm such a "hippy" soul myself, but I really like his writing style.
    He is offering this right now: Replace Your Salary
    If I read it correctly, it's like 13$ a month! I was expecting a lot more!
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

      I am really connecting with this Tony Shepherd guy! I'm such a "hippy" soul myself, but I really like his writing style.
      He is offering this right now: Replace Your Salary
      If I read it correctly, it's like 13$ a month! I was expecting a lot more!
      I'm not going to read all of that, but I'm guessing that he doesn't disclose what the business is going to be. If so, that's a serious red flag.
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      • Profile picture of the author richpeasant
        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        I'm not going to read all of that, but I'm guessing that he doesn't disclose what the business is going to be. If so, that's a serious red flag.
        You sound very jaded and cynical. But I can understand why.

        However, for those who have followed Tony Shepherd as long as I
        have there is no issue about trust or hype.

        The business is information publishing.

        There is no need to buy anything at this point anyway. There's lots
        to read free of charge, as there is with Phil Gosling.

        I recommend these guys quite simply because they sparked my
        imagination in the 90s and still do. And don't need hype to
        do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Sudesh, Congrats!!!! I love your story and wish you the best of everything!! Please stick around here!


    May I ask the name of your person?
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    • Profile picture of the author SudeshGamage
      Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

      Sudesh, Congrats!!!! I love your story and wish you the best of everything!! Please stick around here!


      May I ask the name of your person?
      Thanks!!

      Of course I'm gonna stick around here for a long time. I'm in the internet marketing arena to stay.

      My mentor's name is Michael Baptise.

      If you need any other information I'm glad to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Well I can see what you mean in a sense that spending that amount of money without ever researching or questioning the legitimacy on top of no results does seem crazy. As well as not investing in building up your knowledge at all.
    I'm actually relieved now though, that I am in neither of those groups. lol
    As far as the "why" people do that, like you said; they want a "get rich quick" scheme, little work, or some type of "easy" button. Kind of like the old Staples commercial, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author LaunchPurveyor
    I'd be wary of many WSOs, especially when they claim to teach you a whole business model for all of $7. The good ones, cost money. Things like Wealthy Affiliate, Chris Farrell Membership, Affilorama, Bring the Fresh, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Thanks Launch!
    I will research those suggestions!
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    Most of what you will find here is about selling a product/service, be it your own or someone else's.

    While I do sell some products, I mainly do CPA lead generation and that is where I have made the bulk of my money. Just wanted to say that, so you know that it exists.

    With leads all anyone has to do is fill out a form (no credit card required) and because of this, it's not uncommon to get much higher conversion rates. There are leads that you can get $20-$60 each (some verticals have even higher paying leads) that work well on a front-end campaign. I pretty much favor leads that have some form of a make, get or save money angle to them, as they will typically have mass appeal with the general public...high volume of potential prospects.

    All my marketing is done with email, so I build and buy lists(some will tell you not to buy lists/data, but there is a way to do smart/right and make it work extremely well). I don't spend a dime on anything unless it directly results in cost effective email collection. Then everything then comes down to how many messages do I need to send to break-even on my acquisitions costs, when to promote another offer and how aggressive can I get away with being...which really all comes down to monitoring your stats.

    The upside to using email is once you break-even on your costs, it's then all pure profit, less your fixed costs. Also with mailing to lead generation lists, it's not necessary to try and build a relationship with the list like may do in IM/MMO, as it's not going to make any significant difference in conversions, so it's less work. You just mail until they unsubscribe, which may sound harsh, but a good percent will stick around for years.

    The downside is that most CPA networks will want you to be doing like $1K per week before they will pay you weekly. So you need the capital to float your entire business during pay periods, which could be many weeks with some of them when you first start. Also you ideally want to join multiple networks, so you can split test the same offers between the networks and offers that are similar, so you know for sure which are producing the highest profits. This thins out how much you are doing between the networks and makes that $1K harder to get with all of them. Once your rolling, it obviously isn't an issue.

    Anyway, I just thought I would tell you what has worked for me, as it's not that popular of a topic here. Obviously there's more involved then what I wrote, but it can be wildly profitable if done right.

    As to WSO's, if you buy one and it's crap then request a refund. But don't expect to learn a business from A-Z for $10-$20.

    On coaching/mentor's...I fully believe this can be very beneficial, as sometimes the only way your ever going to find out guarded tips, tricks and secrets is by paying a hefty price, as you just won't find them in an open forum or a mass sold product. Sometimes those nuggets are what can really make the difference from moderate to huge success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Shepherd
    Totally agree - I read all the free stuff before I decide to buy anything from anyone.

    It's far better for getting a picture of what they're really like - better than any sales copy.

    I'd expect people to do the same and read my free stuff before even thinking about buying anything from me. (Also thanks for your kind words guys!)
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    • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
      QTeeKitty,
      As a newbie you already have something going for you that will take you far, you're quick to "Thank" those who take the time to help you. You'd be surprised (maybe shocked) at the people who would have simply taken the advice in this thread and disappeared into the night.

      Thank you for being quick to thank those who help you. That -is- all!
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    The Niche Man,
    Yes, I thank you all because I'm genuinely grateful for all the awesome tips you each have and taking the time out to respond back to me!


    It helps me approach things in a better way and I reference it all for my research; it means a lot that I have this foundation to start on.
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  • Profile picture of the author WilsonHorne
    Finding a mentor is a sure-fire solution but not every new-comer would be able to afford the high costs.. some, who will reach to the stage where they can afford a real mentor would definitely succeed!
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      If you don't give up, you will be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author RaymondPreble
    From what I have seen, finding a mentor who is a real deal is a challenge in it self! I mean there are way too many posers trying to fill up their schedules nowadays, no?
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  • Profile picture of the author DeShawnSmith
    My advice to you would to specifically find someone who is doing what you want to do and pay them for their time so you can shortcut your way to success.

    Now, doesn't mean buy everything from everyone. Find someone you'd like to model and stick with them until you start to get some results under your belt.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
      My advice to you would to specifically find someone who is doing what you want to do and pay them for their time so you can shortcut your way to success.
      The problem with this?
      • There is no short cut to success.
      • Not everything you will buy will work for you.
      • You will make mistakes along the way.
      • You will lose some money along the way.

      Right now I think the great majority of 'Newbies' on WF aren't ready for a mentor just yet. I would take the advice of Steve above and try to soak up as much as you can here before going any further.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jen Eick
    Sounds like you’d benefit from a mentor.
    IMO you go through 2 phases of spending money in IM. the first is endlessly chasing that “magic bullet” that will “make” you an IM’er.
    The second is investing in necessary TOOLS once you are actually DOING IM.
    The transition is gradual. You start with the first phase til the light bulb goes off, at which point you move into the second phase.
    Which phase are you in?
    There's a system to it and you have to be willing to put in the work once you know the system, plain and simple.

    PS - Even the best mentor will pick and choose which aspects to cover. For example, a good mentor may show you the ins and outs of one area, but not another. Sometimes it takes finding guidance from SEVERAL "right people" to finally put the pieces together and learn how to finally make some traction.
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    • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
      Originally Posted by Jen Eick View Post

      Sounds like you’d benefit from a mentor.
      IMO you go through 2 phases of spending money in IM. the first is endlessly chasing that “magic bullet” that will “make” you an IM’er.
      The second is investing in necessary TOOLS once you are actually DOING IM.
      The transition is gradual. You start with the first phase til the light bulb goes off, at which point you move into the second phase.
      Which phase are you in?
      There's a system to it and you have to be willing to put in the work once you know the system, plain and simple.




      Is it possible to skip that first phase? I mean if I'm not looking for the "magic bullet" and spending any money yet?


      I was waiting until I found a true interest to begin with, and combine the implementation with then spending the money to expand with the tools I need like you said.


      So I'm not sure where that leaves me at this moment, but I think I'm having a good beginning just by being logical and using everyone's good advice to steer me the right way.


      Does that sound like it makes sense, or are the phases inevitable even if I know I don't want to waste time with #1?


      Also, thanks for your perspective on mentors and how different ones will teach you different things to make the whole picture come together.


      These are all tips that are going to be a big help for me not only right now but in my future
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      • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
        Originally Posted by QTeeKitty View Post

        Is it possible to skip that first phase? I mean if I'm not looking for the "magic bullet" and spending any money yet?


        I was waiting until I found a true interest to begin with, and combine the implementation with then spending the money to expand with the tools I need like you said.


        So I'm not sure where that leaves me at this moment, but I think I'm having a good beginning just by being logical and using everyone's good advice to steer me the right way.


        Does that sound like it makes sense, or are the phases inevitable even if I know I don't want to waste time with #1?


        Also, thanks for your perspective on mentors and how different ones will teach you different things to make the whole picture come together.


        These are all tips that are going to be a big help for me not only right now but in my future
        Dear, there is no right way to do IM.

        You just need to fail at a buncha things until you find something that works, and than you keep doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author QTeeKitty
    Guys, thanks for bringing some clarification to me about mentors. I am going to wait and start implementing some things first, and wait for when I am serious about expanding on one particular thing and have a full understanding what I want out of that person.


    I also want to let you know that I save all the names of people that you give me in folders and have them there to reference during my research.
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