China's Consumer Protection Watchdog Reports On Alibaba

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In a report issued earlier this year, The Chinese Government’s SAIC accused Alibaba of allowing merchants to operate without required business licenses, to run stores selling famous brands without authorization, and selling fake products. The Chinese State Administration for Industry & Commerce (SAIC) is a government watchdog for consumer protection, trademark protection and business practices.

The report also said that Alibaba employees took bribes, and the e-commerce giant had not fixed flaws in customer feedback or internal credit-scoring systems. The government watchdog said “For a long time, Alibaba hasn’t paid enough attention to the illegal operations on its platforms, and hasn’t effectively addressed the issues.” The report went on to say “Alibaba not only faces the biggest credibility crisis since its establishment, it also casts a bad influence for other Internet operators trying to operate legally.”

SAIC said Alibaba was still allowing sales of contraband including fake cigarettes and alcohol, as well as items “that threaten public safety” such as knives and phone-tapping devices.

The watchdog says: “A huge number of merchants” haven’t registered for operating licenses and are engaging in illegal behavior including bribing Alibaba employees.

The report also accuses Alibaba of allowing merchants to mislead customers during sales promotions on Nov. 11 and Dec. 12.

“Some operators on the platform have created fake transactions and deleted negative comments to improve their own and others’ reputations,” SAIC said.

For more details see: China Accuses Alibaba of Lax Oversight of Merchants - Bloomberg Business

What Does This All Mean For Buyers?
  • It means that little confidence can be placed in Alibaba’s verification system or Gold Supplier rating.
  • It also means that although 90 million fake product listings were deleted prior to Alibaba’s float on the NYSE, the fakes are back.
  • It means that feedback scores can’t be trusted.
  • It means that sellers listed on Alibaba continue to mislead buyers.
  • It means that Alibaba can’t or won’t deal with illegal activities on its sourcing platform.
  • It means that bribing of Alibaba employees is still taking place even after it was supposed to have been cleaned up after the “Alibaba and the 2236 thieves” scandal.
Now maybe some who have been skeptical about my previous posts on the thread Safe to buy from alibaba? will appreciate why I teach that it is better to use safe sourcing sites where you don't have to keep looking over your shoulder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shellg
    Wow! Its a wonder anyone uses Alibaba after reading this. I always thought they were risky but it all seems as though they dont care about buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author LesterRussell
    You cannot deny that alibaba has grown to be one of the world's largest companies in just 16 years. China is a very big place with a population of over 1 billion people. Control over the market might be lacking because of the volume, but i don't believe it is to the point where things spiraling out of control and their customers are buying only fake products.

    I would say take things with a pinch of salt and be prudent before making purchases. Do some research on the company you are dealing since it known that fraudulent products are present.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by LesterRussell View Post

      You cannot deny that alibaba has grown to be one of the world's largest companies in just 16 years. China is a very big place with a population of over 1 billion people. Control over the market might be lacking because of the volume, but i don't believe it is to the point where things spiraling out of control and their customers are buying only fake products.

      I would say take things with a pinch of salt and be prudent before making purchases. Do some research on the company you are dealing since it known that fraudulent products are present.
      You miss the point. The article referred to is mostly talking about fraudulent sellers, and fraudulent practices. Fake products are only a very small part of the problem.

      Now that Alibaba will only allow Gold Suppliers to respond to sales inquiries,
      buyers will feel confident that all is well, because they are dealing with trustworthy sellers.

      On Alibaba's own site they warn that a Gold Supplier badge is not proof of trustworthiness.

      Walter
      "If you think education is expensive - consider the cost of ignorance."

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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      This is how business is done in many parts of the world . . . including some here in the U.S.

      Do your due diligence any time you start up a relationship with an importer, exporter, or supplier. Price alone should never be the ultimate decision point.

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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Back in the day (circa 1996-2010) when I was most heavily involved in importing products from China, I found that made-in-china.com to be the best resource and wealth of information for finding reputable suppliers - bar none.
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      • Profile picture of the author JakeThePeg
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post


        Do your due diligence any time you start up a relationship with an importer, exporter, or supplier. Price alone should never be the ultimate decision point.
        Steve - I wish I had heard this advice many years ago. I've slipped up several times by focusing on price alone!
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        • Profile picture of the author Importexport
          Originally Posted by JakeThePeg View Post

          Steve - I wish I had heard this advice many years ago. I've slipped up several times by focusing on price alone!
          I have been teaching this for years, as well as other important issues relating to safe sourcing.

          "If you think education is expensive - consider the cost of ignorance."

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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by AntonioSeegars1 View Post

      This is an interesting report, but it doesn't seem to be having any impact on the reputation of Alibaba in the general population.
      The general population doesn't even know the report exists. Even those on Warrior Forum who are risking their hard earned money don't know. That's why I published that thread.

      But then, we get responses like @LesterRussell shrugging their shoulders and blundering on regardless of the warnings.

      I have taught hundreds of newbies about the safe alternatives where they don't have to keep looking over their shoulder to avoid being "mugged" financially speaking.

      "If you think education is expensive - consider the cost of ignorance."
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  • Profile picture of the author Leo Zhong
    Before you explain your understanding of the report, you really need to know the different understand of the name 'Alibaba' in China, when you say Alibaba in China, it mostly refer to Taobao.com - an domestic online shopping platform of Alibaba Group in China. It is different from the Alibaba.com website.
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    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by Leo Zhong View Post

      Before you explain your understanding of the report, you really need to know the different understand of the name 'Alibaba' in China, when you say Alibaba in China, it mostly refer to Taobao.com - an domestic online shopping platform of Alibaba Group in China. It is different from the Alibaba.com website.
      I know very well the difference between Alibaba and Taobao. In my comments on the report I was dealing with the international B2B site Alibaba. That is the site that interests almost all Warriors that are selling products online and mistakenly thought they could trust Alibaba suppliers.

      They don't use the Chinese language site Taobao unless they use a Taobao sourcing agent who will charge them for their services to locate products at supposedly good prices

      Walter Hay.
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