Viability of non-MMO niche

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Hi everyone...I'm a web designer by trade but have been involved in IM for a few years now. I'm no stranger to setting up sales funnels, building a list and driving traffic to my current site but I need advice on a non-MMO niche.

Aside from doing web design, my husband and I own a greenhouse operation and a garden center. Being a web designer, I obviously designed the company website. I've been debating for a while now to start posting gardening-related content regularly (to establish ourselves as an authority site) and start building a list.

I'm just wondering how viable/profitable it would be to send affiliate offers to this list. It's very different than having a MMO list. These people are likely avid gardeners or a least have an interest in agriculture. I know I can sign up for affiliate programs through Commission Junction, LinkShare, etc...but I'm just not sure that it would result in an extra income stream.

Assuming it is profitable to some degree, my next dilemna is geographical location. Because gardening is specific to where you live (different zones), my first instinct would be to publish articles on gardening in Eastern Canada (where we are located) so that our customers can find helpful tips for their own gardens....but if I do that, than not only am I limiting my audience to Eastern Canada, I'm kind of excluding the rest of Canada and the US. No one in Southern US is going to benefit from reading an article on gardening in Eastern Canada....

As an option, I could publish articles that are generic and would apply to all geographical areas so obviously I'm leaning that way so I can build a bigger list.

I'd like to know what your thoughts on this...I know there is potential but aside from sending affiliate offers to a list, I'm not really sure how else I could generate extra money from the site? I know I could get into product creation (example: container gardening video tutorial), but aside from this, I'm out of ideas.

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author mydream247
    I would suggest selling banner advertisement on your website, dependiing on the amout of traffic your site generates this can be a great source of income, and maybe offer email campaigns for advertisers that offer relevant products to your list.
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    • Originally Posted by mydream247 View Post

      I would suggest selling banner advertisement on your website, dependiing on the amout of traffic your site generates this can be a great source of income, and maybe offer email campaigns for advertisers that offer relevant products to your list.
      That's an option for down the road...but as of today, it's just strictly a site for a local business which means virtually no traffic which is why my first step (I think) would be to post tons of relevant content to build up traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Teravel
      Originally Posted by mydream247 View Post

      I would suggest selling banner advertisement on your website, dependiing on the amout of traffic your site generates this can be a great source of income, and maybe offer email campaigns for advertisers that offer relevant products to your list.
      Did you even read the original post? They operate a gardening business in their local area... Offline. Selling banner space on their business' website would be diverting traffic away from their own business, and straight to their competition.

      My husband and I own a greenhouse operation and a garden center.
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      I've been debating for a while now to start posting gardening-related content regularly (to establish ourselves as an authority site) and start building a list.
      I think you should have started building a list from the start. While your main source of traffic is most likely local customers, getting them on an email list means you can send them a wide range of information to get them Coming Back to your business.

      Email marketing isn't just about getting affiliate sales. You can send your local customers information like; Weekly/Monthly Deals, Printable Coupons, and any information that may help them improve their gardening.

      I'm just wondering how viable/profitable it would be to send affiliate offers to this list.
      If the offer would benefit your local customers, or any other visitors your website has, it could be as profitable as any other email campaign. Digital products are just like physical products, except you don't have to worry about storage space.

      When you have a local customer come into your business and ask questions, you would point them to solutions. It's the same thing with affiliate products. If the information, service, or tool would benefit your 'customers', your endorsement and explanations are what will have people pulling out their credit cards.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Do you have a YouTube channel?
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      • Profile picture of the author MrJman006
        Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

        While your main source of traffic is most likely local customers, getting them on an email list means you can send them a wide range of information to get them Coming Back to your business.

        Email marketing isn't just about getting affiliate sales. You can send your local customers information like; Weekly/Monthly Deals, Printable Coupons, and any information that may help them improve their gardening.

        I didn't mention this in my answer, but another really viable way to utilize what you already have to boost sales. Might even be more worth while to boost your offline business than to start a whole new one based on affiliate products. I would definitely sit down with your partner and take a look at a few of these options. You could possibly scale into several of them over time.

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        • Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          Do you have a YouTube channel?
          No I do not yet...At this point, I'm in the research phase but definitely this has been brought up!

          Originally Posted by MrJman006 View Post

          I didn't mention this in my answer, but another really viable way to utilize what you already have to boost sales. Might even be more worth while to boost your offline business than to start a whole new one based on affiliate products. I would definitely sit down with your partner and take a look at a few of these options. You could possibly scale into several of them over time.

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          Exactly! I am thinking that the garden center is the primary income source and that an online business surrounding the offline business would be an ideal extra income stream!
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          • Profile picture of the author MrJman006
            Exactly! I am thinking that the garden center is the primary income source and that an online business surrounding the offline business would be an ideal extra income stream!
            I would look into blogging and even local SEO. These two would really benefit your offline business. The local SEO will help you become well known business in your area for gardening which obviously helps with sales. The blog would show your authority in the niche and would present opportunities for online sales outside of your local region. The Amazon store idea would work nicely into the blog and if your local customers are interested in more than just your offline store, they could visit your blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrJman006
      Disclaimer: I am not in the gardening niche. The following are just observations.

      It sounds like you already have a great setup to take advantage of with your gardening business. I would definitely set up a list and possibly a blog on either on your company site or a sibling site.

      The geographic location also does not seem to be much of problem in my mind. It's a niche market you can cater to. It may not be bad to start off serving just this geographic area and branch out later once you prove you can make money in the gardening niche online. If do want to go after a bigger market (at some point you probably will) I would focus more on things that all gardeners may have in common like setting up a green house and information about gardening in one, properly caring for your plants in terms of placement, light exposure, nutrient supply, etc. When you do get to a geographic specific topic like soil content, make a chart or multiple blog posts breaking down various soil types and how to best take advantage of each. I don't know how you feel about aquapoics, but that is a field of gardening that seemed to have some interest that I think is less dependent on location. Also composting is a big area you can take advantage of since it let's you generate the type of soil you need by augmenting your compost bin with various nutrients you can buy online or at your local store.

      This seems like a good place to talk about monetization. You could try to go the as space route like banner ads, but unless you have some massive traffic, I think that leaves a lot on the table. I would focus more on info products and affiliated physical products. Seeds, soil, nutrient additives, etc. are all products that you can sell to your readers via Amazon's affiliate program or other gardening affiliate programs.

      You also have lots of info products you can play with. Just a quick search on clickbank yields some pretty good results:
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      - Landscaping (~$18.00/Sale): Landscaping Ideas & Landscape Designs
      - Grape Vine Growing Guide (~$32.00/Sale): Grow Perfect Grapes
      - Aquaponics (~$24.00/Sale): How To Build Your Own Aquaponics System
      - Mushroom Growing Guide (~$21.00/Sale): Mushroom Growing 4 You

      The list goes on. You can even work on putting one of your own together that targets a specific area of gardening you and others are really into.

      A website that I would consider even more niche than your idea is Betta Fish Care. Adam Short set up a website called bettafishcenter.com which is a minisite that revolves around caring for betta fish. He sells an info product and multiple physical products and makes several thousand a month with that site alone if I remember correctly. (He outlines all of the details in his Niche Profit Classroom course. Link is in the sidebar of my blog in my signature if your interested.)

      Point being I think this market could be great online especially if you are passionate about it.

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  • I think you should have started building a list from the start. While your main source of traffic is most likely local customers, getting them on an email list means you can send them a wide range of information to get them Coming Back to your business.

    Email marketing isn't just about getting affiliate sales. You can send your local customers information like; Weekly/Monthly Deals, Printable Coupons, and any information that may help them improve their gardening.
    I agree with this statement but the problem is that our business serves a small community of about 30,000 people which isn't much compared to big cities...I did start building a list of local customers a few years back but it wasn't worth it...very few sign-ups because a large part of the community are senior citizens and they just don't seem to go online for anything...(here anyways).

    We do quite well with our garden centre and we are very busy with customers during peak season (May, June, July)...after that, it really drops down which is why I thought I would take the website on a much bigger scale (Canada and US primarily) and try to generate income with alternative ways.

    I should mention that I've also considered Amazon products but I don't know ANYTHING about how to run an Amazon store!
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    • Profile picture of the author MrJman006
      Originally Posted by ChantalVanderlaan View Post

      the community are senior citizens and they just don't seem to go online for anything...(here anyways).
      Yeah that can be a little bit of a barrier to overcome. If you did your own version of an info product, you could even sell it instore and that would make a difference I'm sure. Otherwise branching out online is a good bet.

      I should mention that I've also considered Amazon products but I don't know ANYTHING about how to run an Amazon store!
      There are plenty of products out there teaching Amazon stores. The one I mentioned, Adam Short's Niche Profit Classroom touches on that. There are other courses of course too you just have to look either on google or heck even a well placed search here on the WF can yield good results.

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  • I'm just wondering if I should have a separate website for affiliate offers/amazon products than my local business website....btw, here is the link to my garden center...Belleisle Gardens Country Market - Serving Sussex and Surrounding Area

    As you'll notice, I haven't done a very good job of keeping it updated
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  • Profile picture of the author RevenueGal
    I don't see anything wrong with including some gardening supplies and equipment using Amazon affiliate links or from another company as long as it doesn't appear spammy....which should not be the case if you're really offering TOP quality content. I would definitely add some ebooks so that you could profit from all areas and not just locally. Yes, different planting zones are something to consider, but the over all advice of nurturing and planting are just about the same. A startup guide for your first garden would be a good starter because more and more people are becoming interested in raising their own produce. Then you could cover other specific topics. (I'm not sure about your surrounding areas...but they are also possible customers since many are not satisfied with their own local companies. Provide something unique... Give them a reason to travel to yours! Use some of their local keywords to draw in more customers).
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineStoreHelp
      Is it viable? Oh heck yes. In fact, I am going to show you two examples pretty close to your niche where both owners are making very good money. One is directly gardening, the other is about juicing. These owners both made it the old fashioned IM way, creating a product.

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      This girl just did a $70,000 product launch. I would be willing to bet you, you can find a niche and profit from it...

      And, since you already have a built in audience, why not create an only course they can watch on their iPads while they are gardening. And, being in Canada, even while it has its own ecosystem, there are always a need for people to understand cold weather gardening, or four season gardening...

      If you wan to make money, then build your own product and sell it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Teravel
        Originally Posted by ChantalVanderlaan View Post

        I agree with this statement but the problem is that our business serves a small community of about 30,000 people which isn't much compared to big cities.

        We do quite well with our garden centre and we are very busy with customers during peak season (May, June, July)...after that, it really drops down which is why I thought I would take the website on a much bigger scale (Canada and US primarily) and try to generate income with alternative ways.
        I live in a small city of roughly 17,000. We're mostly a tourist area, offering boating in the summer and skiing in the winter.

        A friend of mine works in a local pet store that has been in business since the mid 80's. They recently started building a list and sending out coupons and the monthly deals they have.

        Since doing so, they have seen a major increase in return business. They have even seen an increase in out of area customers, who return for the customer service, helpful information, and of course, to use their coupons.
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        • Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

          I live in a small city of roughly 17,000. We're mostly a tourist area, offering boating in the summer and skiing in the winter.

          A friend of mine works in a local pet store that has been in business since the mid 80's. They recently started building a list and sending out coupons and the monthly deals they have.

          Since doing so, they have seen a major increase in return business. They have even seen an increase in out of area customers, who return for the customer service, helpful information, and of course, to use their coupons.
          That's awesome @Teravel! I'd love to hear more about that! That's so good to hear!
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  • Profile picture of the author TexasSteve
    MMO is a huge niche, but it's obviously not the only niche.

    Create good content for any niche with buyers and you'll have success.

    I'd imagine with your knowledge on that type of gardening that you'd build a nicely sized audience.

    Keep at it.
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