I have a great product, no idea how to sell

by jpenns
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I've been lurking this forum occasionally for years but never had anything to sell until my wife created a program that helps people quit overeating. She's a Registered Dietitian, the program is scientifically based, and to me it sits apart from all the other health and weight loss products out there. We've run it once, in which time I personally lost 20 pounds because of it, and we got some pretty good reviews from the 42 people who signed up. We've now revamped the program, added a bunch more content, bumped up the price significantly to reflect the improved program as well as to increase the dedication and buy-in of the participants, and we're now working on marketing.

Which I have no idea how to do. Last time we made our sales through the existing traffic we get through her website, as well as a couple of guest posts on other blogs. We're charging now more though and we really want to get this program out there, make a lot more sales.

We're charging $370 for the program this time. We have an affiliate system setup through a wordpress plugin, but last time around did not have much success getting affiliates.

I'm currently wondering if it's worth it to hire somebody to promote this program and put all of that in place for us, since I'm really not an expert.

If you have any advice, or can help with reviewing the current sales page, that would be awesome. It's I Quit Overeating - Smart Nutrition

Oh, and the followup page is I Quit Overeating Sneak Peek - Smart Nutrition (so you don't have to put your email in if you don't want)

The one thing that is still in the works is improving the promo video on that page. We're working on that right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author TorinoGray
    Have you tried recruiting affiliates in niche related forums? Look at competition product affiliates and hit "Contact Me" on their website. If you giving away a large enough piece of the pie and at $370/$299 into price, you darn well better be.. you may find interest. And at $370, I think you should call this a workshop. When I read daily "readings/videos" it feels overpriced. And I don't think lifetime access to a private Facebook page adds the intended value to the customer. Maybe lifetime access to support with other participants, and the author.
    I know you didn't ask for the second part of my reply, but I hope it is taken in the spirit in which it was given.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      TorinoGray, absolutely, all feedback is welcome. When you say daily emails/videos makes it sound overpriced, what about that makes it sound that way? Do you mean that you don't hear enough other content, or something about daily emails/videos is inherently not valuable enough?

      Does the "workshop" title imply better value, or why do you feel that title is better?

      Of a $300 price tag, what's a good amount to offer affiliates?

      Regarding the "lifetime access" thing, I think I see what you're saying. We used a private Facebook group instead of a separate forum so that people would see it regularly in their daily routine of checking facebook, and be reminded to check in with the group, but you're saying that the way it's worded doesn't communicate value quite the right way?
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      • Profile picture of the author TorinoGray
        Sorry if I wasn't clear about "the daily videos/emails". What you have is a 10 week course/workshop/program. Don't list features, list benefits. You have a solid product.


        If you are giving your affiliates $100 or more, I think you would have them lining up to sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author DollarShark
    Have you ever tried to list in on afflilate networks such as, clickbank or cj.com
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  • Profile picture of the author KashKhullar
    Hey Dollar Shark,

    ClickBank is a great place for getting Affiliates. Yes if your product is good. It can make a big hit. You can hire as many affiliates as you can depending upon what facilities you are providing for affiliates.

    Create some email swipes, Ad campaign formats etc. for them that will help them save their time and concentrate straight to your promotion. Offer them handsome price money too to stay motivated and to keep interest in your offer.

    Feel free to PM me if you want any additional information
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I think if you're going to interest affiliates, you'll have to offer at least 50% commission.

    I also think if you want to see more sales, you'll need to construct a funnel where you offer a lighter version of the product at the typical Clickbank front-end price ($27-$47), and then insert a few upsells leading all the way up to your $370 program, which you could enhance with webinars and maybe even some limited 1-on-1 consulting (which if you did, would certainly increase the perceived value of this product and let you raise the price at least $100 or more).

    Also, getting affiliates on board is sort of a catch-22 situation -- the big fish will want to see conversions on your offer, and obviously if you're relying solely on affiliates it's going to be relatively difficult to get them to bite if your offer is new and unproven. What you could try doing is running solo ads to a squeeze page with a compelling free offer that ultimately leads to your product -- Arcamax can provide you with about as much traffic as you can stomach and this will help push you over the edge and get a decent number of sales (if your offer converts well).
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      42 people who signed up
      Were those people who paid $370 dollars for this program???

      ClickBank is a great place for getting Affiliates.
      Not at $370 - that won't fly there.

      I'm considering price from a consumer standpoint - for good reason. If I look for affiliate products to promote...I want to know if the product can be sold. If it's overpriced compared to competition - I'm not going to waste my time promoting it. I don't care if there is 75% commission - doesn't matter if the product can't compete in the marketplace.

      The price seems way out of line to me when compared with other diet plans and eating plans available to consumers. You offer lifetime access to a FB group - but that's not your own platform and you can't guarantee it will exist for anyone's lifetime.

      It's several times the cost of major diet and eating plans that are popular now. Other plans have equipment included or exercises dvd's and detailed meal plans and worksheets...for a fraction of the cost. How did you arrive at this price?

      I see the suggestions here - but in my view you aren't yet ready for prime time. You do have a good position as "professional dietician" but you need more in the way of application to sell this idea/system/program...
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      • Profile picture of the author jpenns
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Were those people who paid $370 dollars for this program???


        Not at $370 - that won't fly there.

        I'm considering price from a consumer standpoint - for good reason. If I look for affiliate products to promote...I want to know if the product can be sold. If it's overpriced compared to competition - I'm not going to waste my time promoting it. I don't care if there is 75% commission - doesn't matter if the product can't compete in the marketplace.

        The price seems way out of line to me when compared with other diet plans and eating plans available to consumers. You offer lifetime access to a FB group - but that's not your own platform and you can't guarantee it will exist for anyone's lifetime.

        It's several times the cost of major diet and eating plans that are popular now. Other plans have equipment included or exercises dvd's and detailed meal plans and worksheets...for a fraction of the cost. How did you arrive at this price?

        I see the suggestions here - but in my view you aren't yet ready for prime time. You do have a good position as "professional dietician" but you need more in the way of application to sell this idea/system/program...
        The price point we sold 42 at was $90 each. So yes this is much higher, but we did add some of the things you mention, like a detailed meal plan and exercise workbook that is physically mailed to each person.

        I'd be interested in what specific diet plans you're comparing this to? Here are the two we used as reference points, which are similar programs and similarly priced: www.iquitsugar.com and Go Sugar Free - Jacqueline Smith, MPH

        One of the things we perhaps need to highlight better is that having access to a Registered Dietitian in itself is very valuable. You can easily pay thousands of dollars getting the same type of counselling from a dietitian like this. They are THE medical nutrition experts, this is the profession that doctors go to when they have a nutrition question, because they receive much more nutrition and food-related behavioural education than doctors. Because of this, the program is designed with much more of a scientific basis than any other program that I've seen out there. For example, the quitting sugar idea is fundamentally a bad idea. Completely restricting one food specifically will result in you craving that food more, and is more likely to result in you bingeing on it in the long run.

        Also, one piece of advice we received was to bump the price up because it incentivizes the participants more. They will engage in the program more if they've committed more money to it, which will make it more successful for them. On top of being great for our clients, it ends up additionally benefitting us because it will improve the reviews we get. This advice was from Russ Ruffino, who seems to get decent reviews on this forum.

        I hear what you are saying though. I appreciate the feedback. We will have a discussion about the price. It also seems like the FB group does not communicate value, even though we specifically chose that platform because it's more helpful than a separate platform. People are already on facebook, so they will naturally see notifications from the group as they go about their daily online activities, which serves as the natural reminder people need as they struggle to build new habits, rather than forcing them to remember to login in to a dedicated, separate platform.

        One thing I'll disagree with though is that we can absolutely guarantee the lifetime support group, as much as any company can. If the Facebook platform for some reason ceases to be workable, setting up our own platform to continue the group would not be an issue.

        Love the feedback, will start to tweak the sales page accordingly
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      I think if you're going to interest affiliates, you'll have to offer at least a 50% commission.

      I also think if you want to see more sales, you'll need to construct a funnel where you offer a lighter version of the product at the typical Clickbank front-end price ($27-$47), and then insert a few upsells leading all the way up to your $370 program, which you could enhance with webinars and maybe even some limited 1-on-1 consulting (which if you did, would certainly increase the perceived value of this product and let you raise the price at least $100 or more).

      Also
      Did something get cut off at the end there? Would love to hear it.

      The interesting thing is that the support group essentially functions as 1-on-1 consulting. Every question that is asked there is personally responded to by Jessica. I wonder if we can market it that way somehow. It's helpful for everyone else to have those discussions visible though, so it's not what you conventionally think of when you think 1-on-1, ie. private conversations. I'm not sure exactly how to frame that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        The price point we sold 42 at was $90 each. So yes this is much higher, but we did add some of the things you mention, like a detailed meal plan and exercise workbook that is physically mailed to each person.
        Adding an exercise "workbook" and meal plan is worth over 4 times as much?

        Of course you use Facebook - but would also have my own domain/site/sales pages as main "home".

        The diet plans that came to mind were two that are currently widely advertised. First, good old Nutrisystem - where your entire month's food is sent to you in proper portions. True, it's a diet and it's monthly - but also true the most expensive level on the plan is less than $370/month.

        The other one is 21 Day Fix where portions are regulated by color coded and properly portion sized containers. My neighbor got that plan and it's a smart eating plan for about $60 total.

        I mention those two "diets" because portion control is a big part of them - and that's basically what you seem to be featuring with your plan.

        That said, access to a dietician is featured on the "sugar free" plans so perhaps that makes the difference.

        Honestly, my opinion is only that. I'm not one to try this sort of program so I may be totally misjudging its appeal. If that's the case - sorry.
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        • Profile picture of the author jpenns
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Adding an exercise "workbook" and meal plan is worth over 4 times as much?

          Of course you use Facebook - but would also have my own domain/site/sales pages as main "home".

          The diet plans that came to mind were two that are currently widely advertised. First, good old Nutrisystem - where your entire month's food is sent to you in proper portions. True, it's a diet and it's monthly - but also true the most expensive level on the plan is less than $370/month.

          The other one is 21 Day Fix where portions are regulated by color coded and properly portion sized containers. My neighbor got that plan and it's a smart eating plan for about $60 total.

          I mention those two "diets" because portion control is a big part of them - and that's basically what you seem to be featuring with your plan.

          That said, access to a dietician is featured on the "sugar free" plans so perhaps that makes the difference.

          Honestly, my opinion is only that. I'm not one to try this sort of program so I may be totally misjudging its appeal. If that's the case - sorry.
          Thanks for your feedback. It's showing me what we need to address on the sales page. I'm going to start by trying it out here.

          Not to say that those two things add four times the value but (A) we priced it low the first time because it was our first time offering it and we needed to make sure we got people in it to build a community and get testimonials, and (B) I was pointing out that we ARE offering the things you said we were missing in comparing prices.

          Nutrisystem and 21 Day Fix are very different programs, not recommended by RDs because you don't actually learn much on them. Once you're off you will likely begin overeating again (if you can even stick to the restricted diet they provide to begin with) and that puts you into the classic yoyo pattern of dieting, which is harmful for your health and weight loss goals.

          Also your impression that those programs are a fraction of the cost is false, unless your goal is only to lose 10-20 pounds, which is generally not this demographic. This program does not run on a monthly payment like those programs. In order to lose 50 pounds in a healthy way on those you would likely need to pay for 4-5 months at least. I've seen testimonials indicating that's exactly what people are doing, and that puts those programs over this price point, and this is a lifetime purchase.

          Portion control is not the right term for this program. Quite frankly it is far superior to any portion control program because it does not focus on willpower alone, and it lasts infinity times longer than your willpower will. I'm going to work at showing this on the sales page. Thanks again for your help.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Thanks for reminding me, I have edited my response above and elaborated on your affiliate situation.

        Originally Posted by jpenns View Post

        Did something get cut off at the end there? Would love to hear it.

        The interesting thing is that the support group essentially functions as 1-on-1 consulting, at least at this point. Every question that is asked there is personally responded to by Jessica. I wonder if we can market it that way somehow. It's helpful for everyone else to have those discussions visible though, so it's not what you conventionally think of when you think 1-on-1, ie. private conversations. I'm not sure exactly how to frame that.
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  • Profile picture of the author depotgang
    You have to have great sales copy with a killer commission program. Paying affiliate CPA will generate more sales. You should look into Clicksure for CPA or JVZoo/Clickbank for revshare programs.

    Having a great product means nothing without great marketing to sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Site looks nice, but you may have committed a marketing crime. You should never find or develop a product, and then go out and ask, "who can i sell this to?". Everybody thinks their product is great, but their marketing is where they die. Sounds like you're attached to the product. And i dont know about $370 when considering similar sounding products. You should de-attach yourself, and go into a smaller, totally different niche to sell in. Sounds like you got problems that cant be solved in a forum post.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Site looks nice, but you may have committed a marketing crime. You should never find or develop a product, and then go out and ask, "who can i sell this to?". Everybody thinks their product is great, but their marketing is where they die. Sounds like you're attached to the product. And i dont know about $370 when considering similar sounding products. You should de-attach yourself, and go into a smaller, totally different niche to sell in. Sounds like you got problems that cant be solved in a forum post.
      Hi Randall, thanks for your comments, but I'm a little unclear what you mean. What is the crime I've committed, and why is it a crime? I know who to sell this to, ie. I know the target demographic and I know they're willing to pay for this product, I'm just looking for help with how to get it to them.

      To be honest I'm much better at helping my wife create content than I am at selling, so rather than abandon this to sell another product, I'd much rather get somebody to help actually sell it. if anybody here is interested in that, I'm open to seeing how we can make that work.

      To be clear on the pricing, I've given two examples of similar products that are priced similarly, but are actually inferior because they focus on quitting one particular food, a statistically unwise thing to do unless you have an actual allergy that will physically motivate you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        The response to my comments is defensive - and you don't have to sell me on the product. I'm not your market. The diets I mentioned have nothing to do with quitting one particular food. But - they are diets and you product appears not to be "a diet".

        If you think the product and price are right - launch it and the market will tell you what it thinks.
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        • Profile picture of the author jpenns
          Sorry if I come off defensive. You asked where we got the pricing from, and compared our product to a significantly different product, so I'm merely trying to show where the differences are and how we arrived at it. As I said, I'm taking all of your feedback into account, not trying to dismiss it. It is very helpful to show where our site's communication is lacking.

          When I mentioned the one specific food thing, I was talking about the products that I linked to, which are much more similar than the products you linked to, and likewise similarly priced, but are actually inferior for that one reason.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            That makes sense - the "no sugar" ones? Gotcha.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficFlow
    Why not create a sales video and market it on youtube. You can outsource the production of the video.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Since you have a unique product that no one else is selling, it will be difficult to base your price on "the going rate for a similar product."

      I think the best you can do is test different prices using quick paid traffic. Track results. See which price point gets the most sales (taking into account your net profit after ad costs). Only after you know this should you establish a price and ramp up sales.

      You can also do test groups and ask prospects in the niche what the product is worth and whether it fills their need or not.

      Guessing is not a sound marketing strategy. Neither is pulling a number out of the blue based on what you want to get from your product.

      Good luck to you,

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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      Originally Posted by TrafficFlow View Post

      Why not create a sales video and market it on youtube. You can outsource the production of the video.
      We're in the process of creating a sales video, actually. How would you suggest marketing on youtube?
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      • Profile picture of the author coachkareng
        As was mentioned above, it is all about the funnel you use and how you are positioning to your target market. You need a lead magnet that is free of low-priced and then you can filter into your higher priced program. I create Done For You solutions so if you'd like to discuss how to have this done, PM me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
        Originally Posted by jpenns View Post

        We're in the process of creating a sales video, actually. How would you suggest marketing on youtube?
        I recommend starting your own YouTube channel, brand it, and upload videos with tips and advice with a call-to-action to check out your offer.

        You can focus on choosing relevant keywords to target, and let organic traffic come to your videos, or you can promote your videos with YouTube ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author trobo
    As some of the other posters have said, you will need to have a funnel with a series of lower priced offers that leads up to the high-end offer. An example would be: free report---tripwire($7-$17)---main offer($30-$90)---premium offer($380), or something along those lines.

    Also, one thing I noticed about the first sales letter is that it's lacking a strong headline. This is VERY important.

    You mentioned you have a total of 42 positive reviews. Why not pick out 5-10 of the very best ones and include them in the sales letter?
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  • Profile picture of the author coachkareng
    Hey jpenns,

    Replied to your message. Not sure it went through. Did you get it?
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      Originally Posted by coachkareng View Post

      Hey jpenns,

      Replied to your message. Not sure it went through. Did you get it?
      No, I didn't get it.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimwillis
    The so called sales page is a mess. It is confused, structurally poor, and without a compelling narrative. The headline is lame, and the call to action lacks potency.

    Questions:

    Where are the case histories and testimonials?
    Where is the price featured on the sales page?
    Why aren't you reminding visitors of of their pain?
    Have you thought of leading with a free offer first?

    In reference to the price don't worry about the naysayers. Creative storytelling and selling can build desire to the point where customers will happily pay a few hundred dollars or more for your program. Done correctly they'll think it's cheap!
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  • Profile picture of the author kazimuhith
    Try affiliate network like clickbank, commission junction , linkshare, JvZoo. OfferValult etc
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  • Profile picture of the author montero
    Your best bet may be to partner with someone who has a list in your niche. Offer to do all the work and give him/her more than half. Remember, you're just starting. Of course, the product has to be really good.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonycorletto
    i think it is not a problem if you hire someone to promote your program. hiring experts will expand your insights and will give you more options. Also by hiring someone you wouldn't need to worry about the online marketing you can begin with the offline marketing yourself so to cover more ground. hire legitimate experts that are trustworthy and are talented.
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  • Profile picture of the author kennyd3
    I would start with Facebook Ads. Target the right audience, set a minimum budget, keep split testing
    to get the right targeted audience and you will see your product fly of the shelf (figuratively speaking).

    Used these technique for years and just recycle, recycle, recycle the same technique for all my products and affiliates. And getting your ads approved gets easier in time once your start investing in Facebook Ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      What kind of Facebook ads have you found are best? Boosted posts?
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      FYI I have significantly modified those two pages based on feedback here. Not done yet, but would love to hear what people are thinking now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    I'll give you a free, high converting tip: Rapport beats everything.

    Right now you're going at this with the typical sales pitch, yet what you have to offer is perfect for going the free group invitation route, followed by building rapport, followed by webinar, where you'll make sales for more than what you are currently asking.

    You won't need to go down in price for your main offer. You'll be able to charge double, with an option for payments - and downsell products in a follow up sequence for those who don't or can't buy into the main offer.

    Currently, imo, you are undervaluing what you have to offer, which is worth much more than the typical product offer...you can make a great, steady income if you set things up correctly.

    You two have the passion, personable qualities, and the right credentials to take things a lot further than what you think.

    Just my 2 centavos.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpenns
      Thanks for the encouragement Joan. I tend to agree that this is a high value offering, but I am biased.

      We have talked about doing a webinar, and have one in the works. Can you clarify what you mean by the group invitation route and building rapport, though? I have an idea but we're both quite new to this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    I tend to go the other way. Your main site just has an email opt in, then I'm assuming an autoresponder that eventually sells the system?

    I would sell your product on that page, with an exit pop up that captures email and sends the emails. My main focus would be to separate tire kickers from buyers.

    Then I would:

    1. Buy on website - moderately priced based on value but low enough to get a good amout of buyers.. say $97. Let affiliates drive traffic to this offer at 75-100% commission
    2. Downsell - exit pop-up for emails
    - Downsell again - discounted plan
    - Downsell again - monthly subscription plan
    3. Upsell - one-on-one coaching, user specific needs, etc medium ticket price $997
    4. Huge upsell - $5,000 range
    5. Swing for the fences - $10,000-20,000

    The last two are the tough ones, but you're in a great niche and have the knowledge to create the products that are valuable enough and deliver information to build trust.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      It could just be me, but I'm missing the testimonials on that sales page.

      I want to hear from Sally, Joan, and even Bob how they are getting so much out of the site and have curbed their eating habits - and how they lost some weight and feel very satisfied.

      I'd want a private forum not on facebook where I could more easily chat with others and share recipes and things discovered - and discuss other issues as well. I would think there will be "groups" within your group such as those with diabetes or those with kids etc.

      I'd be using a facebook page to pull traffic to my private site with private forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author leonguyenbus
    Hi jpenns,
    here a idea:

    first i would create a Book or CD as a short version of your product and put the BEST (not the average) information that will help people get result right away (always put your website anc contact information in the product).

    then i create a landing page (not your sale page ) to send out the CD or "BOOK" for free but they (your future customers) will pay the shipping cost.

    Then after they submit to get free CD or BOOK (Must be physical product and not download product and there're a reason for that) they will be redirect to your sale page.

    get an account at Getrespone and go to "Create Autoresponder"
    set up AT LEASTS 5 email in here everyday telling success story about people using your program and aslo give them more value.

    Also, please add testimonials in your sale page.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Sounds like an awesome program, here's how you can improve...

    1. Sharpen your lead/sales funnel. If the objective of your first page is entirely to capture your lead...then your first page needs to be completely redone. Fore example: large image banner should be made smaller in height - your space above the fold (before you scroll) is critical to someone staying on your page. Why strawberries, what have they got to do with over eating? Suggest you get a better image or lose it altogether . Is the benefit really stop over-eating or is it really the weight loss by tackling over eating? A headline more like "How I FINALLY melted 20 lbs in X-days When Diets, Pills And Exercise Didn't Work!" would be better.

    2. You need better opt-in forms and there should be at least two for a page this size - one much further up toward the top.

    3. You need to rethink your incentive for the opt-in. It claims you get 1-week access to the 10-week course, but your second page is very confusing - I had no idea if I was getting 1-week access? A better approach would be offer a 5-6 minute video on WHAT you finally did to lose this stubborn weight...which you introduce why exercise, traditional diets, etc...don't work and what you found to be the solution - learning HOW to eat. This gives away the WHAT you did without giving away the HOW (which is what your course answers). Hit them with the science and facts around why most people over eat...what that does to their body, how it will be even worse in the coming years, etc... and then offer them Product 1 (see next point)

    4. I would offer a Basic and Advanced Program option - Basic may be the 10 week lessons, workbooks for $97 whereas Advanced gives them weekly coachigng calls, Bonus videos (perhaps around mindset, adjunct exercise plan that takes 20-min day, etc. to make your solution even better) for say $297 (you can test higher if you want) You can then upsell or downsell by testing different funnel alternatives.

    You are about halfway there - you have the product, have about half your messaging, but need to really focus on putting a much better front-end on your business for this to work.

    I would also consider doing a series of webinars around the topic - say a 4-part series over 1-month to attract interest and provide even more content that you can use in your marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      I'll try to make time to visit your pages later, but it sounds like you might be a good candidate for a Jeff Walker style product launch.

      I'd suggest spending a few dollars and a few hours with Walker's book "Launch" (available on Amazon) and see if it resonates with you.

      As far as calling it a course or a workshop or something else, you can figure it out for yourself with some quick and dirty PPC research. Use the same basic ad, substituting the single word, let it run until you get a few hundred clicks, and know for sure for under $100.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbryan
      What does your lead magnet page look like? If the first page is your lead page you are killing your chances of building a list, even though it is a great looking page. Here is what I would suggest:

      You need to splinter you product into smaller pieces and have a lead magnet, segmentation sale (trip wire), main offer, upsell, and recurring/monthly.

      1. Create an ugly basic lead magnet page that only has an attention grabbing headline such as the one JBsmith recommended. "How I FINALLY melted 20 lbs in X-days When Diets, Pills And Exercise Didn't Work! And also add a couple of the participants testimonials with their first name and pic if possible. That will allow you to build a bigger email list up front.

      2.Create a sales video and instead of giving them a free week, charge just $7 for access to the 1st week of the program. This will build your buyers list.

      3. Then if they take you up on your segmentation sale, immediately sell them your main offer. This should not be $370. Sell the main part of the program for $97 and offer digital versions of the workbooks etc.

      4. If they take you up on the main offer, then sell them physical copies of the workbooks etc. for $47 with a $10 discount downsell in case they say no. You really need to build up how much easier it will be for them to keep track of everything and how much it will benefit them having physical copies.

      5. Build out a monthly subscription plan where you will do live coaching to the group that buys. You can even do something as simple as an autoresponder email coaching program that gives them daily/weekly tips, tricks, and advice. This program should be relatively cheap and take as little of your time as possible, which is why I recommended the webinar coaching sessions and autoresponder coaching. I would say $27-$47 per month for this. Price it at $47 and drop to $27 as a downsell. It might not sound like much but it is recurring income instead of just trying to make $370 one time. If you set it up right people will pay for a long time and you will make a fortune.

      If you're wondering if this funnel will actually work, I can tell you first hand that I experienced almost this exact sequence and I bought lol.

      Having the funnel set up this way would get your around $200 up front from the most qualified buyers and you would be building a recurring income with very little added work. Also, instead of giving away half of your money to JV's, why don't you use FB ads and sell your product yourself using this funnel. I promise you'll keep way more of your money that way, and you can always recruit JV's once you have built a following for your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rooso
    You have gotten tons of feedback in the past month and I am just now seeing the thread. I read every post and wanted say that I think you are correct in your pricing.

    People don't know what the value is in a product like this so you have to teach them. I know nothing about the diet marketplace but I do know a different market where price gives perceived value, cabinetmaking. You attract different customers with low priced work than you do with super high priced work. They are not in competition with each other.

    Stick with the premium product.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpenns
    Man, I appreciate all this feedback. At the same time it's a little overwhelming because there's a lot of different ideas in here.

    My main problem right now is that I recognize some of these lead and sales funnel techniques from websites I've been to, and while I'm sure they're very effective at what they're for, I don't think they quite sit right with us. Jessica is a health professional, and I'm not sure I'd choose a dentist if their website had an exit popup with a downsell. It's too gimmicky and sales-y. I guess we're positioning her as the premium (because that's what she is) and don't want to do things that would associate us with anything that's lower value. The way Apple doesn't offer a cheap laptop, with lower quality parts. They're just premium all the way through. That's this program. I guess they do still have the Air and the Pro. And having multiple tiers is a very recurring theme from your comments. So that's one aspect we'll definitely have to carefully look at.

    Please don't take any of this the wrong way, everyone who offered advice here. I'm weighing it all carefully and I'm not saying it isn't good advice. I'm just not sure if all of it is the right fit for us.

    Rooso, as someone who understands the premium product, what are your thoughts on that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rooso
    I agree with you that the typical sales funnel isn't one-size-fits-all. It is a proven tool that works but I think there are some applications where it just isn't appropriate.

    You originally came here seeking ideas on how to market your new product and you certainly got lots of great feedback. You are doing right by considering the various ideas to see what you feel is a right fit for you and your wife and your brand.

    It sounds like you have a chance to brand yourself and create a long term product which I think is awesome. I would want my website to have the right 'feel' that would appeal to my target audience. They have to feel comfortable. They have to trust you.

    There is nothing wrong with coming onto the scene as the best. You just need to have your best face on. Your potential customer may get scared off by the sales gimmicks they have seen over and over.

    If someone comes to your site it is because they are seeking a solution to their weight problem. You have only a few seconds to appeal to them and capture their attention. I think asking for their email address right off the bat will devalue your product. I would use the precious real estate above the fold to relate with the customer and make them feel like they have found someone who understands what they are experiencing. Then you show them your solution and its credibility.

    And ask a premium price. And, by all means, deliver a premium product that exceeds their expectations. Word of mouth will spread like wild fire.
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  • Profile picture of the author snewlun
    You can always run ads in some classified sites and see what the results are.
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  • Maybe you can try PPC first. Once there is some good conversations, you may go to CB, CJ or try other promotion method.
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