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Does this happen to most newcomers here, getting lost in the WSO forum? SO many offers all accompanied by excellent testimonials, what to choose?

Then I read threads that advise not to keep going for shiny new objects, do this or that proven method. But that's what the offers in WSO say, they are proven methods.

I started this just under a year ago, have learned many new skills, and now earn a small income maintaining websites for local clients as well as making a few affiliate sales from my websites (not enough to give up the day job).
I really believe that IM can give financial independence if you're prepared to work hard, want to help and choose the right business model. I have much to learn!

So, are the WSO offers shiny objects or proven methods, how do you choose a product, if any?
Does it sound like my head is in a spin?!
#lost #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Don't buy anything yet.

    Only buy something when you know it is:

    a) a solution to a specific problem you know you have

    and

    b) unavailable for free elsewhere.

    If you don't know what to buy, you need more information.

    I can tell you have not picked a direction, and are looking around for the magic answer to make you money...despite what you say in your post about having some experience.

    Keep learning.

    Eventually you will learn enough that you'll be able to pick a direction. THEN you can say, "Oh, I need a solution to my problem of how to reach people on Facebook about Topic X"...and that's when you're in shape to go look for answers.

    But don't ever buy stuff because it sounds good or looks good. You'll never use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't buy anything yet.

      Only buy something when you know it is:

      a) a solution to a specific problem you know you have

      and

      b) unavailable for free elsewhere.

      If you don't know what to buy, you need more information.

      I can tell you have not picked a direction, and are looking around for the magic answer to make you money...despite what you say in your post about having some experience.

      Keep learning.

      Eventually you will learn enough that you'll be able to pick a direction. THEN you can say, "Oh, I need a solution to my problem of how to reach people on Facebook about Topic X"...and that's when you're in shape to go look for answers.

      But don't ever buy stuff because it sounds good or looks good. You'll never use it.
      TOTALLY agree with all this - WSO Land is like quicksand. Get out. There are people who make a living creating products just to sell as WSOs. It's often easier to just go do it yourself with some Google searches imho.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kathy331
      Originally Posted by DoubleOhDave View Post

      TOTALLY agree with all this - WSO Land is like quicksand. Get out. There are people who make a living creating products just to sell as WSOs. It's often easier to just go do it yourself with some Google searches imho.
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Don't buy anything yet.

      Only buy something when you know it is:

      a) a solution to a specific problem you know you have

      and

      b) unavailable for free elsewhere.

      If you don't know what to buy, you need more information.

      I can tell you have not picked a direction, and are looking around for the magic answer to make you money...despite what you say in your post about having some experience.

      Keep learning.

      Eventually you will learn enough that you'll be able to pick a direction. THEN you can say, "Oh, I need a solution to my problem of how to reach people on Facebook about Topic X"...and that's when you're in shape to go look for answers.

      But don't ever buy stuff because it sounds good or looks good. You'll never use it.
      Ah yes, so much good advice!
      I'm definitely not looking for a magic answer, just looking for the best ways to learn. Thanks Jason, your reply has helped me identify the problem (I didn't view it as a problem before) and I've already found a number of resources to help.

      I will def stay out of WSO for now Dave, it is like quicksand in there! One thing I will say, it's good place to learn how to create a squeeze page!
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Don't spend money until you know what sort of business and niche you want to build. Then you can gran bargains related to your specific goals. Google questions you may have and there will usually be answers there for you. If you do need to ask a question, make sure it's detailed. Generic questions are too hard to answer and many members don't like answering generic questions from you.

    Read threads, especially ones that are related to your niche as you'll also gain knowledge. Don't ask questions until you have a need to ask and then they should be topic focused and detailed.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    You have to realize that you're on a forum full of internet marketers. A lot of people here make a living selling products to noobs.

    Not to say there aren't good products in the WSO section. There probably are. (honestly, I don't know, I don't go there.) But there is a lot of free information here and on the Internet.

    I do no, that nobody ever built a successful business spending money unless that money was spent with a positive ROI.

    What you need to do is pick a direction for your business and focus on it. Only buy things that will help that business grow or solves a specific issue for your business.
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    • Profile picture of the author bodhiclifford
      I just recently bought a $300 WSO. I've bought like 10 cheap WSOs before this one and although I probably learned a thing or two from them I never really applied any of it.

      This time I believe I will. I think the high investment in the program + live coaching from the seller + mastermind group with other participants will make it much likely to happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    There's not much special about the WSO forum anymore. Sure there are some gems if you have the time & patience to sift. But if I were in your shoes I wouldn't go in there browsing. If anything, go in there with a specific purpose and use the search function.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    The real issue here is that it's easy to lose focus when you get distracted by shiny objects in the WSO section, many of which are short-term methods that you don't want to utilize in building a long-term business.

    It's easy to get seduced by the sales copy into thinking something is a "must have" -- try to stay on the straight and narrow by only focusing on one area of internet marketing (i.e. offline, email marketing, list building, etc.), tune out all other distractions and only buy a product if it can help you with your chosen field.

    Also, limit your time browsing through the WSO section as it can be a huge time suck -- make sure you're done with your agenda for the day before you even think of visiting it.
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    • Profile picture of the author JC Web
      The vast majority of WSOs are by people who are not making money or are only making money by selling worthless WSOs and taking advantage of people. The latest scam fad in there is coaching by people who can't make money teaching other people who can't make money to become coaches and scam other people. Do yourself a favor and stay away from WSOs.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Kathy,

        The real tragedy with bouncing from one WSO to the next is not really the fact that you may be reading readily available information or that you might not get the full scoop on what it takes to make money online.

        The real tragedy is that you're wasting your precious time and some effort on something that will never pay off - it will not build your business, bring in revenue, and help you reach your business goals. It's a waste of time that you will never be able to recoup. And when you waste time over and over and over again, it adds up to a significant part of your day or week or month or year.

        The best advice I can give is to just say "NO!"

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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Kathy331 View Post

    Does this happen to most newcomers here, getting lost in the WSO forum? SO many offers all accompanied by excellent testimonials, what to choose?

    Then I read threads that advise not to keep going for shiny new objects, do this or that proven method. But that's what the offers in WSO say, they are proven methods.

    I started this just under a year ago, have learned many new skills, and now earn a small income maintaining websites for local clients as well as making a few affiliate sales from my websites (not enough to give up the day job).
    I really believe that IM can give financial independence if you're prepared to work hard, want to help and choose the right business model. I have much to learn!

    So, are the WSO offers shiny objects or proven methods, how do you choose a product, if any?
    Does it sound like my head is in a spin?!
    In the past, I found it beneficial to go to Warrior Plus and putting the subject I was interesed in the search and go from there. Whether that be Copywriting, Email marketing, SEO etc...

    I found some really quality courses in there at just silly cheap prices.

    I know some may disagree with this but all Iam saying is I personally found some excellent courses of some of the IM models I was interested in


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  • Profile picture of the author Freebiequeen1999
    Decide what you want to do....and try to figure out what skills you have that will be useful....
    decide what you like doing,....your interests...your talents

    Before you buy a "get rich fast" scheme...why not learn some skills?

    IMHO some basic skills, online and offline would be setting up a basic (at least) wordpress site or at least be able to manage the blogging....set up email provider, opt in/out pro service, autoresponder
    know how to set up social media, have connections on social media...

    if you have some graphic ability or skills you will not be dependent on others

    You should IMHO have some basic writing skills....I would not try to use a translator and sell stuff to Germans or French people..and I would never buy anything in stilted werido "english" from someone in another country - sorry

    If you are going to work online you will want a real website and traffic, a dot com domain....to get accepted into good affiliate programs. Any program that accepts anyone probably is not good

    For the most part online may cost some to get going - you will probably run ads

    Offline may cost less but you need ...need ..need..sales skills.
    IM
    Any wso that tells you about "done for you"..or "easy money"...or "no skills needed, no money needed" is simply full of it.

    The sad part is that ,many here are at a low and desperate level....look how many people fail at IM but are trying to write a "report" to sell to others to "make money fast". if it worked why don't they just do it?

    IMHO beware of the pushy ones - the desperados
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    • Profile picture of the author Kathy331
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Are those "Testimonials" from people you personally know and trust? If not, then ignore them and don't allow them to influence your purchasing decision.

      The thing to ask yourself is, "How were those methods proven?" I can pretty much guarantee you that most people making that claim don't have a clue how to go about "Proving" their methods.

      I'm willing to bet you're further ahead than a lot of "Newbies" - keep doing what you're doing.

      And the first step is - put away your wallet. Instead, make a list of each topic you need to learn about and focus on learning one thing at a time. Start with free resources, such as searching this forum.

      Once you've learned enough about a given topic, then you can make an informed decision on whether or not to buy an info product/WSO.

      Stay out of the WSO forum and focus on taking a logical approach to learning the ropes. Most "Newbies", at least those who don't get caught up in jumping from one thing to another, take 3 or 4 years to really establish themselves and build a profitable business.

      I've said this hundreds of times - despite all the sales copy you may have read, very few people ever see any success online in a short period of time.

      In that respect, building a business online is no different than offline - it takes time, hard work and patience - which you seem to have.
      Mike, thanks for your wise words, I'm in this for the long haul! I guess in some ways I'm naive, but am aware enough of that to prompt me to ask this question. Due to the excellent advice from you guys here I now have my next topic to focus on, TRAFFIC! Good quality traffic of course, I'm learning.
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