Question: Who is the Website Flipping Guru in your opinion?

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Question for you guys today...

Who do you consider, in your opinion, to be "the" website flipping guru?

Thanks,
Mike Hill
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  • Profile picture of the author stma
    Me

    I've done at least 5 blog posts on it and I've actually been doing it for longer than the other folks have been on-line.

    Can I have my cookie now?

    Seriously though - what you need Mike? Be glad to help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    Justin and Chaunna Brooke at Site fliiiiiiiiiiiing dot com.
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    • Profile picture of the author stma
      Obviously it's ACTUALLY

      flippa.com

      Their new pricing model and interface appear to really have screwed up one of my favorite marketplaces.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        Originally Posted by stma View Post

        Obviously it's ACTUALLY

        flippa.com

        Their new pricing model and interface appear to really have screwed up one of my favorite marketplaces.
        YEah thats what I've heard... so what is the screw up? A listing costs $19 and if you sell it you pay like 5% or something like that for sites that sell under $499. Is that right?

        Mike Hill
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        • Profile picture of the author stma
          Just not as busy as sitepoints old marketplace. Might be the economy it - it might be a lot of things. Nobody really "loves" it and it's an extra hoop for buyers who were already members of sitepoint to go through.

          Not as many "high ticket" buyers there as well.

          Certainly not as much traffic. I've wasted my last listings with good established sites that didn't sell or get any bids. Can't remember the last time that happened. The only thing that seems to be selling are the crap sites at the moment.

          It will change as flippa gets established but it's not going to be next week.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andy Crofford
            Originally Posted by stma View Post

            Just not as busy as sitepoints old marketplace. Might be the economy it - it might be a lot of things. Nobody really "loves" it and it's an extra hoop for buyers who were already members of sitepoint to go through.

            Not as many "high ticket" buyers there as well.

            Certainly not as much traffic. I've wasted my last listings with good established sites that didn't sell or get any bids. Can't remember the last time that happened. The only thing that seems to be selling are the crap sites at the moment.

            It will change as flippa gets established but it's not going to be next week.
            Supposedly it is busier: A Record Week on Flippa Flippa

            At first I was irritated by the changes but I have since sold a site there and go there daily to check out the listings.
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  • Profile picture of the author High Impact
    I Used to flip websites, but i gave it up when i broke my monitor
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthydon
    "Site flipping guru" becomes a relative
    phrase because every experienced site
    flipper that is passing value to customers
    and making profits is a guru in his or her
    own rights. There is certainly no accurate
    metrics to measure site flip guru.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
      Originally Posted by wealthydon View Post

      "Site flipping guru" becomes a relative
      phrase because every experienced site
      flipper that is passing value to customers
      and making profits is a guru in his or her
      own rights. There is certainly no accurate
      metrics to measure site flip guru.
      Maybe, maybe not but what I mean by that is someone who is still flipping sites on a consistent basis, has a lot of knowledge about the topic, is able to teach others about the topic and is generally known in the industry.

      I just contacted Justin and Chaunna... I have seen those two around lots of times and they are fantastic at what they do.

      Reason I'm asking is because I don't know who the real pros are in this space and I need to talk to them about a specific project.

      Mike Hill
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by wealthydon View Post

      "Site flipping guru" becomes a relative
      phrase because every experienced site
      flipper that is passing value to customers
      and making profits is a guru in his or her
      own rights. There is certainly no accurate
      metrics to measure site flip guru.
      Agree with that. There's actually quite a few on WF. To say any one of them is "The Guru" is false. They all are ... There's probably as many different methods as there are successful site flippers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    From what I know Ed Dale is a "website flipper" at core. He has that Dominiche product that from what I remember is all about making and selling websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I used to spend a lot of time on Sitepoint. With Flippa, I go there about every 2 or 3 days and that's enough to keep up with whatever is going on and I have sites listed. It just ain't Sitepoint and now I don't even go to Sitepoint to view all the other listings I used to look at. Flippa is slow moving, and you have to hunt for the info ... and it's an eyesore.

    The only good thing about it, is my sites still sell there. That's pretty big, but they've lost me as someone who really monitors the listings for sites to buy and they've lost all my business at Sitepoint for other ads.

    As for flippers, there's
    Kate Anderson
    Suite J
    Desmond

    That's just 3 ... sure there's a whole bunch more
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    • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I used to spend a lot of time on Sitepoint. With Flippa, I go there about every 2 or 3 days and that's enough to keep up with whatever is going on and I have sites listed. It just ain't Sitepoint and now I don't even go to Sitepoint to view all the other listings I used to look at. Flippa is slow moving, and you have to hunt for the info ... and it's an eyesore.

      The only good thing about it, is my sites still sell there. That's pretty big, but they've lost me as someone who really monitors the listings for sites to buy and they've lost all my business at Sitepoint for other ads.

      As for flippers, there's
      Kate Anderson
      Suite J
      Desmond

      That's just 3 ... sure there's a whole bunch more

      Just my 2 cents worth here, I think Suzanne sells herself short and is being a bit modest, she should have listed herself here

      As for 'Guru' (I just bought the domain siteflippingguru - although I don't actually consider myself a guru) Kate Anderson has to be up there but like Suzanne said, there are different methods used by different flippers so I think it would be difficult to say who the 'guru' is.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattpaul2000
    Mike

    Check out Gene Pimentel on Warrior...has to be the expert on Domain Flipping!

    Best regards

    Matt



    Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

    Question for you guys today...

    Who do you consider, in your opinion, to be "the" website flipping guru?

    Thanks,
    Mike Hill
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by mattpaul2000 View Post

      Check out Gene Pimentel on Warrior...has to be the expert on Domain Flipping!
      Seconded. Gene's the real deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author BB-Eats
    Though he usually promotes his blogging work, Yaro Starak talks a lot about flipping websites and his principals are good for doing that in general. Basically if you can get a website going and can flip it, that is all that matters.

    The same techniques it takes to get a website popular are the same ones you are going to need to make it valuable to sell. The rest is the small details of selling that website which you can learn pretty easily and quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
    The Goddess of Site Flipping is Kate Anderson, though Suzanne (sbucciarel) comes in a close second. For the Gods, there's a tie between Swastik, Desmond, and SuiteJ. Never seen Justin's work but I think he knows what he's talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    For me, I'd have to say Steven Walk (LMC) right here on the Warrior Forum!

    The book he wrote on site flipping is the best I've read, and it's free!

    I've had the pleasure to work with him, and talk to him quite a bit, he really knows his stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    The "Site Flipping Guru" would be a venture capital firm out on Sand Hill Road in Silicon Valley. Pick the one that's sold the most billion dollar websites.

    Take the partners at Sequoia Capital for instance. They were pre-acquisition/pre-IPO investors in Yahoo!, YouTube, PayPal, Google, Electronic Arts, Cisco, Apple, and dozens more. How many of those did they flip either by selling to another company (i.e. YouTube to Google for $1.65 billion) or selling to the public (IPOs; Google, Yahoo!, PayPal, etc). and make billions upon billions of dollars?

    That's some good website flipping.

    The gurus you seek are not writing up ebooks and courses for "internet marketers" to consume.

    I know it's a little shiny and blurry from inside, but if you peer out of the "IM" bubble you'll find that the most successful businesses, the greatest leaders, the best internet marketers even, are not the names you find floating around "IM" forums.

    If you really want to change the world, to build a business that does something unique and lasting, then don't get caught up in the race to emulate the IM "gurus". You'll idolize all the wrong people and end up nowhere (unless your goal is to just be the next guy to sell IM courses to the IM niche).

    Use the Warrior Forum and other places like it as a great source of practical advice, but don't be fooled by all the talk of ebooks and article marketing and great gurus with great ecourses. That's all a distraction from the real world.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    I'm a personal fan favorite of Guy Kawasaki.

    Thanks David!

    Suzanne definitely understands flipping, she is also super Awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marilyn Etzel
    My vote goes to Justin & Chaunna Brook at sitefling.com! They know their stuff and are very authentic! They give tons of value all the time!
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  • Profile picture of the author darrin_cooper
    Your only a guru if you can sell a certain # of sites WITHOUT an existing long term list that you've built up. People are referencing people simply because they have been site flipping for a long period of time. But I can guarantee you that none of those people could sell 10 custom sites on Flippa, SiteDeal, or any other market in 1 week without the use of their existing list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kate Anderson
      Originally Posted by darrin_cooper View Post

      Your only a guru if you can sell a certain # of sites WITHOUT an existing long term list that you've built up. People are referencing people simply because they have been site flipping for a long period of time. But I can guarantee you that none of those people could sell 10 custom sites on Flippa, SiteDeal, or any other market in 1 week without the use of their existing list.
      Now, that sounds like a fun challenge! =)

      I'd be up for tearing apart your theory on how "none of these people could sell 10 custom sites on Flippa in 1 week without using a list", because it doesn't make sense to me that anyone who had created a "super size list' and became a 'flipping guru' couldn't draw that same attention to their listings under a new name.. after all, they did it once right?

      For most of them, they weren't names you knew when they started selling websites on those marketplaces yet they developed these lists that you mentioned, and created a brand, right? (and get this, some of them even did it on their own with no 'big wig' help or connections).

      So, I'm a bit confused as to why, starting out with a new name would hinder our ability to sell if they bring the same quality and style that they became known for in the first place..

      Guess I'm just confused.. blame it on the Contact C I've been crunching on.. /cough
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by darrin_cooper View Post

      Your only a guru if you can sell a certain # of sites WITHOUT an existing long term list that you've built up. People are referencing people simply because they have been site flipping for a long period of time. But I can guarantee you that none of those people could sell 10 custom sites on Flippa, SiteDeal, or any other market in 1 week without the use of their existing list.

      That's silly. I don't even have a list, but I sell 68% of the sites I list (on Flippa).
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    • Profile picture of the author dorim
      Originally Posted by darrin_cooper View Post

      Your only a guru if you can sell a certain # of sites WITHOUT an existing long term list that you've built up. People are referencing people simply because they have been site flipping for a long period of time. But I can guarantee you that none of those people could sell 10 custom sites on Flippa, SiteDeal, or any other market in 1 week without the use of their existing list.
      I've never heard of this definition of a guru.
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  • Profile picture of the author kkrueger
    I don't know Sheryl...you might be selling yourSelf short too! You were extremely successful without a list in the beginning...and now you have a membership site!
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  • Profile picture of the author Abiel Jiqna
    Go for Justin Brooke hes very good in what he does and is very easy to listen to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Desmond Ong
    Gurus...hmm a very very wide term.

    For me, site flipping guru is someone who has been selling a $50 site up to $100,000 or even more. And don't be surprised, but I know some big guys who are selling sites for income without even being an internet marketer themselves.

    The secret to site flipping is really outsourcing.

    So, anyway, if you want someone who know some great tricks (sneaky one...hmmm....) I think my friend, Justin Brooke is extremely suitable to be the "site flipping guru".

    Remember, a site flipping guru is not someone who sells sites constantly or in big amount -- in fact, a site flipping guru is someone who can turn a ugly, no potential site into a big money maker and then flip it for cash. That is the real site flipping technique.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuiteJ
    Thanks for dropping my name in here. I'm flattered

    I agree with Sheryl, Suzanne is a badass website flipper and should name herself, but also agree with not being able to really pin down a "guru"..everyone has their own methods and types of flips that they do well.

    If you're asking because you're looking to learn from someone though, I do have something important to add:

    Choose someone who is actually flipping for profit and making sales on a consistent basis (a.k.a "walking the walk"). There's way too many "expert flippers" who have "products and secrets" but fail to actually show you proof of any consistent/successful sales of their own. A PayPal screenshot doesn't count...don't get me started...lol

    Cheers
    Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hi Mike,

    I'd say Tim Phelan is one of the top flippers or used to be, and was in on it early too like a couple of years ago. I know he sold a high price site to John R, plus other sites. He also sold a site for me. Plus he ran his own forum before he sold that site.

    About Flippa - yeah, I have no idea what the owners of SP were thinking when they made that decision to change how the site works, and then transfer the auction onto a different domain like Flippa. It's not a bad domain name, but they had SitePoint already branded, high amounts of traffic, conversions, and happy cutomers. I bet it's like starting over for them at this point.

    The thing about changing a name or transfering a brand to another is that often times it doesn't stick as well. There are always losses whether it's time, customers or whatever, and the company ends up working twice as hard at bringing the business back.

    Let's hope they don't have much of a loss and jump right back up there.


    Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author dandimit
    I know that Shane Garrison does flipping...I also know that he's a really nice guy.
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