20k uniques per day - Over 1m monthly page views - Not sure how to monetize this site

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I own a blog in the diet/nutrition niche that gets steady traffic of 20-25k uniques per day, with over 1 million page views per month.
http://tinyurl.com/7qsr936

I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site, but it is number 1 2 and 3 in google.
The site pulls in about $125k per year and takes about an hour per week to manage.
Google, affiliates pop-unders, and custom diet plans that I do myself.

The problem is that I am certain that I am leaving money on the table.
Other sites of this size, in this industry seem to be doing $300-500k

We get about 15 new subscribers to our list every day, with about 10 per week that drop off.

I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription. Maybe $9.95 per month with a $1 trail to get started.

I am looking for some other suggestions that might be better than my plan.

Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author healthlabs
    I've got a number of different nutra weight loss products if you want to sell product instead of making ad revenue. Pretty much everyone shows a much higher revenue figure selling products instead of ads.

    Not sure if charging people a monthly fee will work out, as there are far too many apps and such out there for free, so I can't see going up against the big diet players ( Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers etc.) for a monthly fee and this being successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marked09
    Are you sure 20k unique visitors per day? Make sure to filter out bot and spam traffic to your analytics to make sure that you are getting the correct metrics.

    I find it hard to believe that 20k visitors per day is only getting you 15 leads a day. If the metrics is correct you have to make sure you fix your lead generation first.

    Maybe you might want to think of a more enticing lead magnet initially then you can survey your leads what kinds of offers they are interested. From there you can think of a product that you can create or become an affiliate to promote to your list.

    If you are able to fix your conversion rate correctly then you might be able to get your income up to the level you expected.

    But then again, I'm not in the nutrition niche so I'm not sure how much is the standard conversion rate is acceptable on your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author adamzanber
    If you are only running ad-sense then it make sense to use your own advertising services or use third party company like buysellads.
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  • Profile picture of the author buisao
    You can be buysellads that easy to earn more money. You can get product on clickbank to promote.
    I think you can get more and more
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    Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post

    I own a blog in the diet/nutrition niche that gets steady traffic of 20-25k uniques per day, with over 1 million page views per month.
    IIFYM

    I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site, but it is number 1 2 and 3 in google.
    The site pulls in about $125k per year and takes about an hour per week to manage.
    Google, affiliates pop-unders, and custom diet plans that I do myself.

    The problem is that I am certain that I am leaving money on the table.
    Other sites of this size, in this industry seem to be doing $300-500k

    We get about 15 new subscribers to our list every day, with about 10 per week that drop off.

    I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription. Maybe $9.95 per month with a $1 trail to get started.

    I am looking for some other suggestions that might be better than my plan.

    Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    monthly subscription is not a good idea, unless you do not reserve this for the elite of the site i.g. for weekly premium articles!

    I think the best thing to do is to create different products i.g. a program with different levels of trainig.
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  • Profile picture of the author Highway55
    First, congrats on your traffic and income. Second... Your site is annoying to visitors, lots of garbage. It's not set up to capture emails. You're too far down the rabbit whole to do any subtle tweaks, imo. Best to keep it as is if it's really earning as much as you say.
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    • Profile picture of the author pseudonymble
      Thanks for the suggestions guys
      For those of you that say that I need to revise the site to capture leads better. Do you have an example site you can link me to? Something I could look at to see strive for with our new theme?

      Originally Posted by Highway55 View Post

      First, congrats on your traffic and income. Second... Your site is annoying to visitors, lots of garbage. It's not set up to capture emails. You're too far down the rabbit whole to do any subtle tweaks, imo. Best to keep it as is if it's really earning as much as you say.
      I am actually prepared to revamp the entire site.New theme, new system.. Everything.
      The traffic will be there. I have actually done this several times.
      This will be the 4th revision. Every time, the traffic keeps coming.

      What "Garbage" would you remove?

      Again, I am open to suggestions going in any direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author Highway55
        Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post


        What "Garbage" would you remove?
        A good website is designed for one thing - either capturing leads to market to, or to get clicks. Your site is currently designed to get clicks with pops, autostart-videos, ads, etc

        If you have google analytics, see which keywords are bring the most traffic, then cater to that traffic to those with your lead capture - create a lead magnet around it and then add an exit pop to grab leads, and in article lead capture as well. Thrive leads is a good tool for this.

        If your keywords are spread out too thin - you have 20 keywords bringing 80% of the traffic and they're not tightly grouped - then you'll have better success keeping it the way it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
    Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post

    I own a blog in the diet/nutrition niche that gets steady traffic of 20-25k uniques per day, with over 1 million page views per month.
    IIFYM

    I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site, but it is number 1 2 and 3 in google.
    The site pulls in about $125k per year and takes about an hour per week to manage.
    Google, affiliates pop-unders, and custom diet plans that I do myself.

    The problem is that I am certain that I am leaving money on the table.
    Other sites of this size, in this industry seem to be doing $300-500k

    We get about 15 new subscribers to our list every day, with about 10 per week that drop off.

    I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription. Maybe $9.95 per month with a $1 trail to get started.

    I am looking for some other suggestions that might be better than my plan.

    Thoughts?
    wow how you pull 20k visit PER DAY???? Care to share with fellow WR
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  • Profile picture of the author AuthorityBuilder
    You can outsource white-label products on nutrition and sell them over Amazon.



    Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post

    I own a blog in the diet/nutrition niche that gets steady traffic of 20-25k uniques per day, with over 1 million page views per month.
    IIFYM

    I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site, but it is number 1 2 and 3 in google.
    The site pulls in about $125k per year and takes about an hour per week to manage.
    Google, affiliates pop-unders, and custom diet plans that I do myself.

    The problem is that I am certain that I am leaving money on the table.
    Other sites of this size, in this industry seem to be doing $300-500k

    We get about 15 new subscribers to our list every day, with about 10 per week that drop off.

    I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription. Maybe $9.95 per month with a $1 trail to get started.

    I am looking for some other suggestions that might be better than my plan.

    Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Mc
    It's a very decent income for your site, remember you are doing nothing at all on an ongoing basis to generate it, all your work is already done. So the question is, do you spend time tweaking and/or adding to your site, going down the product route or whatever, or do you just let the money roll in as it is now and do something else with your time?

    Now that you have proved you know how to get a site to that level, why not leave it and do another one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post

    I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription.

    If you're making $125K per year, that's not something that I would want to lose if I were in your shoes. So I would suggest three things:

    1. Don't turn your site into a membership only site with a subscription fee. Instead, add a membership component as a subdomain and an upsell for those hard core fitness and nutrition fans that are coming to your site already. You may only get one percent or less of your visitors signing up for the membership (which I would probably term an "insider's club" or something similar) but at 20K uniques a day that membership will expand rapidly into a nice supplemental income stream.

    2. You mentioned: "I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site." IMO, that is where you'll see the revenue increase that you want. Why not market your site - you know it's a popular market? Even if you have no personal interest in actually doing the work to market your business, you could hire a firm or individual to do the legwork. I think if you got an experienced marketer you would be surprised at how much addition revenue you could generate without doing anything to your site.

    3. I'm a firm believer that having your own products instead of an advertising model of revenue is a far superior way to generate income. You don't have to create the products yourself. You can hire them out or even license existing products in the niche. With Adsense, you earn a few pennies commission when a viewer clicks away. A much superior model is to offer products on your site that are valuable and wanted by your audience. Recruit affiliates to drive traffic to your products and you will enjoy a much better way to make money.

    Just a few of my thoughts,

    Good luck,

    Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
        Originally Posted by adsking View Post

        No problems its great mate. I manage 60 adsense accounts and over 150 websites with earning more than 5000k a daily. Though these earnings are of my clients also but anyone interested in earning can contact me. We have great plans which will have double return on investment.
        WOW what plans you have?

        it seem you are " kinda renting your ad for other google adsense " ??
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  • Profile picture of the author M3C
    I think there may be issues with the site outside the US?

    Iclicked on the primary banner at the top "transform your body" and it took me to a totally in congruent lander asking me to download an games app?

    Then I did it again, and it directed me to a Yotube video???

    I'm presuming you're running offers , perhaps CPA that have no non US lander other than junk. You'r losing money from that for starters.

    Ohh... actually, If I click on your IIFYM coaching link in the main nav bar it takes me to a betting site..It appears even your main navigation links have issues for me.

    Your optin is pretty dire which is why your subscriber numbers are so poor comparative to your traffic. At least provide a decent lead magnet, give them a reason to subscribe. Get that sorted and I reckon you could 10x your current daily subscribers. Then build out a decent follow up sequence to promote some product etc in it.

    Do you mind me askign what the $125k per annum is being generated by, if it's purely adsense etc, you might be better off building a range of products you can sell , use the trip wire - OTO - Profit maximizer model, I'll bet the house you can squeeze out significantly more revenue than adwords is delivering.

    As far as membership subs go, it's a very tough gig. In your space you have guys like Ben Pakulski and others who are offering a huge amount of content for about $10 a month, and he has a huge name, it's a tough gig to retain members and in the early days you'll be building killer content consistently for hardly any members.

    My advice would be start a forum, you have huge traffic, capitlize on that by building a community with a good forum. Your viistors will build tons of quality SEO based keyword rich pages for you and you can sell advertising on the forum for another revenue stream.
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      • Profile picture of the author tenbears
        Taboola may be worth considering to monetize below the posts with their 'Recommended for you' sponsored content boxes?
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Give compelling offers, but wait do you have something great to offer?
    And yes, don't forget about affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lee
    Why do I get a MMO pop up when I click to read a post? Do those actually convert for you?

    Be careful with trying to monetize too hard and squeeze profits. Nobody will come back.
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  • Profile picture of the author gregs82
    Your content seems to be extremely good to bring in that kind of numbers just from organic source. I suggest you be more interactive with your audience and maybe recommend certain products that will earn you commission.

    People search for that kind of info, will be willing to spend money on products on good recommendation. Get a few digital products off Clickbank and maybe work with the sellers to promote. Try a few products yourself and review it so that your audience will be keen on your review.

    There's many ways to monetize a site like yours. I think the fact that you are not engaging with your audience is driving people away rather than keeping them around.

    Try something different every week and review your results. Stick to what works and stay away from what does not.

    All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author edmltw
    Don't change what's working, and move on to another project. You did an excellent job with this model, why not start another project?

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    Originally Posted by pseudonymble View Post

    I own a blog in the diet/nutrition niche that gets steady traffic of 20-25k uniques per day, with over 1 million page views per month.
    IIFYM

    I do absolutely NOTHING to market this site, but it is number 1 2 and 3 in google.
    The site pulls in about $125k per year and takes about an hour per week to manage.
    Google, affiliates pop-unders, and custom diet plans that I do myself.

    The problem is that I am certain that I am leaving money on the table.
    Other sites of this size, in this industry seem to be doing $300-500k

    We get about 15 new subscribers to our list every day, with about 10 per week that drop off.

    I'd like to turn it in to a membership site and charge a monthly subscription. Maybe $9.95 per month with a $1 trail to get started.

    I am looking for some other suggestions that might be better than my plan.

    Thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author SFNY
      Have to be honest, I'm not seeing any organic traffic but I'm seeing over 300 backlinks...
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