Sob story and assistance request

10 years ago

maybe its me

Ya think? If you are a disabled vet you have some income - right?

What boggles me is not the story or the request for help - nothing new there. It's that you want solutions SENT to you. Spending time on an internet marketing forum where people share info might have saved you from losing thousands in the first place.

At least put some effort into asking for help! You are asking people to donate time and effort to you and you can't bother to show up and READ their advice?

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martydavis

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Ya think? If you are a disabled vet you have some income - right?

What boggles me is not the story or the request for help - nothing new there. It's that you want solutions SENT to you. Spending time on an internet marketing forum where people share info might have saved you from losing thousands in the first place.

At least put some effort into asking for help! You are asking people to donate time and effort to you and you can't bother to show up and READ their advice?

Thanks for your assistance.

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Ken Leatherman

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Ya think? If you are a disabled vet you have some income - right?

What boggles me is not the story or the request for help - nothing new there. It's that you want solutions SENT to you. Spending time on an internet marketing forum where people share info might have saved you from losing thousands in the first place.

At least put some effort into asking for help! You are asking people to donate time and effort to you and you can't bother to show up and READ their advice?

Kay hit the nail on the head. I could not agree more.
Get off your butt and go over to fiver.com. I have both sold and bought there. Spend time researching all the niches there to determine what you can offer.

Ken

The Old Geezer

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Iale

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

At least put some effort into asking for help!

I think he is taking effort. I don't know about you, but getting out there and being vulnerable to a community (that can be sometimes judgmental... some, but not all) is a tough task.

Admitting that he's down and "sobbing" (not literally) is an act I don't see anybody can do easily... it takes courage to say "hey, I'm not fine and I need help" - and I believe that is an "effort" at the very least.

Originally Posted by JosephC

Here is a game plan for you:

1. Find something you are good at and can charge for
2. Find out who would pay for this
3. Go to them and sell it.

You can start a service based business today.

Totally agree, and I'd give the same advice if he didn't give it already. I started with offering services too.

Originally Posted by nocturnal911

Write articles by offering servers in warriors for hire...

This is something you can do immediately.

It may not give you your $1,500... but it will set you up for it.

Writing = Money

As you get better, the money grows as well.

Originally Posted by paulie888

You're going to have to humble yourself, start off at the low end of the totem pole and start offering services of any kind that you can provide online.

Looks like the OP is already here "humbling" himself... and I totally agree here too, start somewhere low if you are just starting out.

Have a mindset that "you're getting paid to explore your skills and better them."

I remember working for minimum wage, for a skill that requires someone that someone could (and DO) charge 500%, even 1000% - just because I was starting out and still "practicing".

Now, for the OP...

Don't lose hope. You're a veteran and that's a sign you've probably survived worst situations.

Take action on what the others have generously advised here.

Join Facebook groups related to the "service" you think of giving away (e.g. local marketing groups or "security details" or "gun shop" groups, a niche you can explore since you're a vet... but take note I'm assuming here, but I hope you get the idea)

Good luck and stay strong.

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Zodiax

10 years ago

Originally Posted by martydavis

I only need about $1500 profit per month to stay in my home and to stay "in the black" Not looking for "get rich quick" or becoming a millionaire. Just looking for a steady income that will cost me nothing to get started and very little per month to run.

Whatcha got?

What you need is to look for another job.

Give up the desire to start an online empire with no money, it just ain't happening

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martydavis 10 years ago

Been looking for a job since I got laid off.
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- Zodiax 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by martydavis
  
  Been looking for a job since I got laid off.
  
  Someone has to hire you.
  
  You should aim to send out your resume to 20 places a day.
  
  Minimum 10 failing that.
  
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  discrat 10 years ago
  
  Hey Marty,
  I give you the benfit of the doubt and will take your word on you being a disabled veteran.
  
  That is a tough situation and thanks for doing what you did in the past for us. Really thanks
  
  I would simply just start hanging around here as much as you can and soak up some of the info. here.
  
  Iam not saying that everyone who has thousands of Posts and thankyous is legit.
  
  But for the most part the ones I have run into here at WF are pretty solid and credible.
  
  So it would'n hurt to start there.
  
  And see what they have to say.
  
  If it seems to make sense then simply follow those Members and attain golden nuggets from them when they Post.
  
  I think myob, Steve B, Tom Addams, Kay, Mark Singletary, The Niche Man, John Mccabe, are a few off the top of my head you might perk up your ears when they talk.
  
  Anyway, good luck
  
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- David Beroff 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by martydavis
  
  Been looking for a job since I got laid off.
  
  Labor Ready - Normal
  They open at 6. I'd suggest you get there an hour before that.
  
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TAHERSYED34 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

What you need is to look for another job.

Give up the desire to start an online empire with no money, it just ain't happening

On the contrary, I've seen people just do strictly SEO without any investment and have made profits
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- paulie888 10 years ago
  
  Of course you could do that, but you're probably going to have to spend a lot of time and effort to get there, and if you're doing it strictly on a free basis you probably won't end up making that much money because everything has to be done manually without the help of software or outsourcing.
  
  Many people seem to forget that time is money -- time isn't free and you have to value what your time is worth.
  
  Originally Posted by TAHERSYED34
  
  On the contrary, I've seen people just do strictly SEO without any investment and have made profits
  
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JosephC

10 years ago

I tend to be the person people come to when they run out of income. Mainly because all of my friends know I have not had a real job since I was 16 and people seem to be impressed by that. They think it takes no work and they think I sit on my ass all day doing nothing.

Step away from the internet for a minute. You seem to be looking for 'schemes' to make money. None of them exist. That is why you keep losing money with 'online opportunities' and 'binary options.' Snap out of it, my friend!

The people who make the real money online are the ones who start a business. Starting a business takes money. Starting a business takes work. Imagine working 100 hour weeks. That is how I got started.

Luckily, there is hope. I always tell everyone to "start a service based business." Find something you are good at and offer it as a service. It is the cheapest business model. It is not a 'scheme.' It is long term income you can create for yourself.

Here is a game plan for you:

1. Find something you are good at and can charge for
2. Find out who would pay for this
3. Go to them and sell it.

You can start a service based business today.

Later, once you stabilize yourself you can start an online business. If done correctly, you can make some good money for yourself. BUT it takes time to do this. It takes a lot of education and work. You may not be successful by the time your bills roll in.

That is why I suggested a service-based business model. It is not 'passive' and it is not really scalable, but one good client can pay your bills for a month. Online business are passive and scalable, but it takes time and education. to perfect this model.

Make smart choices. You are in a dangerous situation. Please stop looking to create income with online 'schemes.' Money takes work, so be prepared to do it.

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Gambino

10 years ago

CC me on those emails: freemoneywithoutanywork@gmail.com

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NeedBucksNow

10 years ago

There are no shortcuts to success that I have ever found online. It may even take you a couple years of blogging to make that much money on a monthly basis without investing anything into paid advertising. You should get another job that will continue to pay your monthly bills without having to worry about paying them, at least until you are making more than $1500 a month online. The dream of making a lot of money online is awesome to have, but the reality is that it takes some time and hard work to start getting targeted traffic to see your offers and to buy anything

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Randall Magwood

10 years ago

Originally Posted by martydavis

Whatcha got?

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nocturnal911

10 years ago

Write articles by offering servers in warriors for hire section and fiverr, it is one of the easiest way to make money and requires no capital. Its where i started too, then you can scale it up slowly.

Alternatively, start blogging something you are passionate about, and keep an aim to write atleast 4 blog posts a week. And in long run, it will help you in good ways

Good luck,

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TAHERSYED34

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nocturnal911

Write articles by offering servers in warriors for hire section and fiverr, it is one of the easiest way to make money and requires no capital. Its where i started too, then you can scale it up slowly.

Alternatively, start blogging something you are passionate about, and keep an aim to write atleast 4 blog posts a week. And in long run, it will help you in good ways

Good luck,

For a newbie, if you dont know how to make your self noticed, fiverr is useless; esp if you dont know anything about internet marketing; it isnt about just "slapping a offer online to get noticed and make instant money". I've been there done that. I am taking a few steps back learning seo mastering content marketing then go into fiverrr if I decide to

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Sarevok

10 years ago

Originally Posted by TAHERSYED34

For a newbie, if you dont know how to make your self noticed, fiverr is useless; esp if you dont know anything about internet marketing; it isnt about just "slapping a offer online to get noticed and make instant money". I've been there done that. I am taking a few steps back learning seo mastering content marketing then go into fiverrr if I decide to

I agree, that it's tough to get your first few gigs.

SO HUSTLE.

Promote the hell out of your gigs, and offer more than the next guy.

You'll have to hustle for those first few reviews.

(I am a level 2 seller with 5 star rating, if that helps).

Wish you the best.

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10 years ago

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TAHERSYED34 10 years ago

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Iale 10 years ago

Originally Posted by David Beroff

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And also, check this out. This thread would most likely answer a lot of your questions. The dudes who contributed to this thread made a great job.

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paulie888

10 years ago

You're going to have to humble yourself, start off at the low end of the totem pole and start offering services of any kind that you can provide online. This is probably the fastest way to make money online right now that you can do.

No one's going to hand you the solution to your money issues on a silver platter -- especially if you've not had any experience making money online consistently, don't expect this to magically change overnight.

Initially, you're probably going to have to work harder than you ever have at any real job before you get to the point of making $1,500 a month consistently. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I'd rather you hear the truth now than be misled.

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Sarevok

10 years ago

If you're totally desperate head to Fiverr.

At one point I had so many writing clients there that I quit.

If you can write halfway decent, you can acquire clients there, and many of them will tip you if you write above average. (That is, if you have a "tip" gig).

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nicheblogger75

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Sarevok

If you're totally desperate head to Fiverr.

At one point I had so many writing clients there that I quit.

If you can write halfway decent, you can acquire clients there, and many of them will tip you if you write above average. (That is, if you have a "tip" gig).

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This is how I made my first money online. I am no Stephen King by any means, but I can slap together a pretty decent 400-500 word article. One that's worth more than $5, anyway.

I started doing this in 2009, when Fiverr was brand new. I got bombarded with orders and at the height of it was pumping out around 7-8 articles a day. I did this for about 3 months and what I did all along was squirrel away $1 from every Gig I sold. After 3 months I had a little nest egg and I took that money and got myself a domain, some hosting, and an autoresponder account. I set up a review blog and started reviewing Clickbank products. Then I started building a list. The rest is history, as they say.

So you see, it is possible to start with no money, BUT (and this is a big "but"), I did not take any profit for at least a whole year after that. All the money I made I put back into buying solo ads and other paid traffic to build my list. It took close to 3 years before I was able to actually quit my "real" job and do IM full time.

When I say "full time," I don't mean 40 hours. I work on my business at least 70-80 hours a week even now. And I'm always learning and looking to test new income streams. Some fail (most do), but every once in a while I stumble onto a winner, and that new income stream gets scaled up and added to my business.

The point is you can start without any money but it is going to take you that much longer. If you have money to invest you can get in profit much quicker.

My advice to the OP is the same as many others have given. Go and find yourself another job and forget about the online business until you have stabilized yourself financially. Once you have a job and you do not have to worry about where your next meal is coming from, you will find that starting an IM business is actually great fun and not an act of desperation (which almost always fails).

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Someone will be along soon & tell you to build a list or write an article, or write an article about building list, or some crap like that...

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- yukon Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BIG Mike
  
  Too late - check out post #8
  
  The icing on the cake was he mentioned fiverr in the same sentence, lmao.
  
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  martydavis 10 years ago
  
  Thank all of you for your for your suggestions and assistance. I'm sure there was a lot more I could have written in my request (and I could have written it better I suppose), but I tried to just hit the high spots. I'm old so there is a lot of stuff in my past and my on-line "career" has a lot of color as well. I'll be hard at work if anyone is looking for me.
  
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