by xDrove
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Hello, I am currently making about $10-$20 per month with few of my websites through PPI (install). Now I would like to start online business where I would put more time into and of course earn much more. The problem is I dont know what to do.

I have built a website where I sell instagram followers and facebook likes, but immediately after I have put it online I was there just looking at the screen. How will I make sales, where will I advertise and things like that. So pretty much the website is online but have no idea where I could get sales.

Also I have always wanted to own online business where I would have members (contributors) like fiverr or iwriter or any other website where I would have other people offer..
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  • Profile picture of the author sega001
    You first need to decide what need you are solving in the market place. Then decide which business model you want to follow the bring your product or service to the marketplace to solve that need. This comes by research and by following the FIO method. Figure It Out.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I have built a website where I sell instagram followers and facebook likes,
    I suggest re-thinking your choice of "product."
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      I suggest re-thinking your choice of "product."
      I agree. Does this really add value to the Marketplace when a lot of this is over inflated results attained thru dubious means ?



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  • Profile picture of the author nlanda
    Why did you build your website? What, if any, was your end goal? Interesting to me is that you'd build a website without considering how you would go about getting customers. There are plenty of fiverr gigs that offer what you are offering, but I personally consider them to be low quality offerings and avoid them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by xDrove View Post

    I have always wanted to own online business where I would have members (contributors) like fiverr or iwriter or any other website where I would have other people offer.

    So what's to stop you from creating the kind of business you want? You have narrowed your choices down . . . now go figure out how to do what you want. Entrepreneurs are problem solvers.

    I'm afraid if you rely on others to tell you what to do, you are not going to make it as a business owner.

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    • Profile picture of the author xDrove
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      So what's to stop you from creating the kind of business you want? You have narrowed your choices down . . . now go figure out how to do what you want. Entrepreneurs are problem solvers.

      I'm afraid if you rely on others to tell you what to do, you are not going to make it as a business owner.

      Steve


      Well the point is that I dont know what kind of website to run...Im getting crazy over this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by xDrove View Post

        Well the point is that I dont know what kind of website to run...Im getting crazy over this.
        What do you like talking about all day? At least for the next couple years? Not necessarily forever.

        Who are the people who also like talking about this topic?

        What problem(s) can you solve for them, even with an affiliate product, that will pay you enough money to survive and thrive?

        Begin with the end in mind.

        How much money do you need a month to get by? Double that figure and that's more like it. People forget about a lot of expenses they have...and that you're in business to make a profit. Build profit into the equation.

        So say it's $2500.

        That's enough for now; you can always raise the bar later when you're consistently making this amount.

        Now HOW are you going to get there?

        Trying to piddle around with $7 sales isn't going to do it, is it.

        But what do most people do?

        Now there's nothing wrong with $7 sales...but I hope it's now obvious to you that you need a back end: something of higher value that you need to sell some of the $7 buyers to reach your $2500 target.

        So, again, what problem can you solve that supports the prices you need to charge to get you there?

        Maybe your model ends up being:

        40 x $7 front end sales = $280

        5 x $97 sales = $485

        2 x $997 sales = $1994

        total sales = $2759

        Now we're cooking with gas, as an old boss of mine used to say.

        Remember, if you're doing affiliate sales, you only keep the COMMISSION and that's what counts against these figures, not the whole sale price. A lot of people make this mistake.

        Can you see how this tells you exactly how to lay out your funnel?

        You need enough traffic to get you those 40 front end sales.

        Let's assume a pretty standard 2% conversion on that $7 offer. 40/0.02 = 2000.
        You need 2000 leads entering your funnel to have a good chance at getting those 40 sales. (Hint: if all you're relying on is your WF sig, that's not going to be enough.)

        The mid and high ticket sales come from these 40 front end buyers.

        You have to take a guess at your numbers initially, and then adjust as reality rears its ugly head as you go. This is why it's best to be conservative.

        So we're estimating 1 in 8 buyers of the front end product will upgrade to the mid-level solution. Could be high, could be low. It's different for every offer. But we have to start somewhere.

        And finally, at the top, we're estimating 2 buyers of the front end OR mid-level products will buy the high ticket product. (Yup, a buyer could skip the middle and go straight for the full meal deal.)

        Now you have expectations for your funnel.

        There's a time limit here, too.

        Those 40 front end buyers have to be in and leave enough time for the sales cycle to run for the mid and high ticket products. So you can't be sitting around on Day 27 of the month with 32 front end sales by themselves and wondering if it's going to work out.

        Ask yourself: what do I need to do to ensure those 40 sales get made by X date of the month, so that there's enough time left for the rest of the funnel to work and sell those mid and high ticket solutions?

        Now you can start tracking data.

        How many leads to you really need to put into the funnel to get a front end order?

        How many front end orders need to be present to get a mid and high ticket sale?

        Is there a too-long delay or higher than expected number of front end buyers required to get those higher ticket sales? That would indicate your funnel steps (copy, VSLs, emails, smoke signals, whatever you're using) to that point need improvement.

        Yeah, this is Work.

        But it's important work, and what needs to happen if you want to build a real, sustainable business based on real data feedback.
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        • Profile picture of the author xDrove
          Hey, thanks for the really in depth explaining, I am trying to sell some higher priced stuff too, but my problem is that I dont know where to advertise to make sales. I have a nice website with everything on there but no traffic.


          Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

          What do you like talking about all day? At least for the next couple years? Not necessarily forever.

          Who are the people who also like talking about this topic?

          What problem(s) can you solve for them, even with an affiliate product, that will pay you enough money to survive and thrive?

          Begin with the end in mind.

          How much money do you need a month to get by? Double that figure and that's more like it. People forget about a lot of expenses they have...and that you're in business to make a profit. Build profit into the equation.

          So say it's $2500.

          That's enough for now; you can always raise the bar later when you're consistently making this amount.

          Now HOW are you going to get there?

          Trying to piddle around with $7 sales isn't going to do it, is it.

          But what do most people do?

          Now there's nothing wrong with $7 sales...but I hope it's now obvious to you that you need a back end: something of higher value that you need to sell some of the $7 buyers to reach your $2500 target.

          So, again, what problem can you solve that supports the prices you need to charge to get you there?

          Maybe your model ends up being:

          40 x $7 front end sales = $280

          5 x $97 sales = $485

          2 x $997 sales = $1994

          total sales = $2759

          Now we're cooking with gas, as an old boss of mine used to say.

          Remember, if you're doing affiliate sales, you only keep the COMMISSION and that's what counts against these figures, not the whole sale price. A lot of people make this mistake.

          Can you see how this tells you exactly how to lay out your funnel?

          You need enough traffic to get you those 40 front end sales.

          Let's assume a pretty standard 2% conversion on that $7 offer. 40/0.02 = 2000.
          You need 2000 leads entering your funnel to have a good chance at getting those 40 sales. (Hint: if all you're relying on is your WF sig, that's not going to be enough.)

          The mid and high ticket sales come from these 40 front end buyers.

          You have to take a guess at your numbers initially, and then adjust as reality rears its ugly head as you go. This is why it's best to be conservative.

          So we're estimating 1 in 8 buyers of the front end product will upgrade to the mid-level solution. Could be high, could be low. It's different for every offer. But we have to start somewhere.

          And finally, at the top, we're estimating 2 buyers of the front end OR mid-level products will buy the high ticket product. (Yup, a buyer could skip the middle and go straight for the full meal deal.)

          Now you have expectations for your funnel.

          There's a time limit here, too.

          Those 40 front end buyers have to be in and leave enough time for the sales cycle to run for the mid and high ticket products. So you can't be sitting around on Day 27 of the month with 32 front end sales by themselves and wondering if it's going to work out.

          Ask yourself: what do I need to do to ensure those 40 sales get made by X date of the month, so that there's enough time left for the rest of the funnel to work and sell those mid and high ticket solutions?

          Now you can start tracking data.

          How many leads to you really need to put into the funnel to get a front end order?

          How many front end orders need to be present to get a mid and high ticket sale?

          Is there a too-long delay or higher than expected number of front end buyers required to get those higher ticket sales? That would indicate your funnel steps (copy, VSLs, emails, smoke signals, whatever you're using) to that point need improvement.

          Yeah, this is Work.

          But it's important work, and what needs to happen if you want to build a real, sustainable business based on real data feedback.
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    You can try paid ads for advertising your likes/followers website. You can also market yourself on Fiverr sense the traffic is already there.
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  • Profile picture of the author objectiveman
    Set a financial goal (i.e. $100 per day) then work from there. The mind works off of goals. If there is no set goal there is no set destination. This way you will at least be moving in the direction of that $100 per day and let the strategy/niche follow from that goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Max Anderson
    Most marketers will say the following after a few years:

    "I wish I had started building my list right from the beginning."

    Start with list building!

    Stick to list building!

    Make a fortune!
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  • Profile picture of the author hannahlist
    Social marketing services are in hot demand at many freelance platforms.

    I suggest using your site as a portfolio or 'process' site that sells people to the QUALITY of your accounts.

    After you've set up your site properly, hit the freelance platforms.

    Keep in mind that social media account creation is a RACE to the BOTTOM in terms of pricing.

    There are tons of Filipino and Indian shops that make social media accounts for pennies on the dollar.
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  • Profile picture of the author WP Nut
    You could start advertising right here in WF, then do a search for other forums and start participating in those. Good luck!
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