Please help me to plan my next steps in MMO

Surely the way you earned the $300k is adaptable to other products/niche's ? Seems to me most people on here aspire to earn a few hundred $$ a month......you have already had spectacular results, where has it all gone wrong ?

I'm really not sure what you expect for people to tell you here since we have no idea about-

1) What kind of funnels you used to make $300k
2) How much you really know about SEO
3) Your ability to create and sell a product

So anything that I tell you is going to be a guess, and guesses aren't going to help you figure things out. You did say yourself, however, that you earned that money for doing nothing....so the only answer that matters is to start doing SOMETHING. If you can create a funnel in one niche then you should be able to do it elsewhere, even if it takes a lot more work to make it succeed.

I will say one thing, however.....if you lost your profits due to competitor's negative SEO against you, then that can easily be reversed if you take immediate action. That's getting back to the last point though; we don't know if you have the skills to take that action.

Let me be frank...I am having trouble taking your post seriously. You make 150k per year by creating your own products and using sales funnels with what I image to be a very targeted traffic source.

To me it sounds like your either talking crap trying to sound larger than life to make friends on here, to do JV's with. Or you truly just became to lazy to work.

If you made 300k selling your own products then you have a solid understanding of what works, and what does not work. What people will pay for and what people won't pay for.

You did not really say what is going wrong, with your current business model outside of you neglecting to work. Is there a reason you can not do the same sales funnel and improve your commissions?

Please share more details, there is no way for anyone to really give you any viable advice with the current lack of information available.

-BigPanda

Someone that made $300,000 in two years does not make a thread like this. OP sounds like a newbie.

Def sounds like someone trying to sound big but really knows nothing...

Is this real life?

Hey guys,

ok I've to make things clear

@kk075
1) What kind of funnels you used to make $300k
I didn't use any funnels here. I just created a seo optimized website for a affiliate product/service and it worked after 1 year like nothing (place 1 for about one year). I don't know if this is called a "sales funnel" too.
2) How much you really know about SEO
In my opinion I know enough to get started again - but my problem is the time, I need to earn money right now, or in about 1-2 months, to be able to pay my fixed costs. That's my real problem right now (and I know that it's my fault. I know).
3) Your ability to create and sell a product
Yes I sold even digital products but this was different time. It was 2009 and it worked great. But SEO turned out to make me more and easier money. So I'm kind of new in the digital product production industry. Since 2009 there changed SO MUCH in advertising and that's why I'm overwhelmed.

@Jill Carpenter & @Bigpanda
First: I didn't make the money out of products. I made it from lifetime commissions with a affiliate product and SEO. And my site is not in the serps anymore and so no more customers and the affiliate network decreased my share because Im not bringing new customers right now and in the past months. (Im working on it since yesterday (lol) to get higher again but I definitely need one or two new income streams to get in this situation again) - I don't care to earn less money, my problem are only fixed costs.
And: no Im not talking crap. And yes: would be cool to find some cool guys who do similar things to share information about new stuff.

@Just2motivated
That's why I posted it. I thought there might be people here who are in a similar situation.
And no: I'm responding right now (time difference).

@discrat
Hey Robert, thank you for the first "real" and clear reply on my post.
Yes, I had success with seo combined with one affiliate product. But seo is "long term" and it takes time to get new rankings in high competitive niches where it's possible to earn good. That's why I need new streams which are able to bring in some money more fast like seo.

@DubDubDubDot @joelraitt @BloggingDiaries
lol.

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All in all I can say that it even helps me to talk with you guys about it. Thank you already.

Well since SEO is where you made your money, I'd consider what Robert is saying. Build a targeted SEO Email Marketing list, and sell SEO related affiliate products. Plenty of those everywhere.

I saw you struggle with PPC. Pretty sure you could buy SEO related Solo ads. I just did a quick search on this site I use and found some lists you could mail to. Feel free to Pm me

Lol if you earned $300k keep doing what you did to make that money. Scale it up. Find a new niche and apply it in that. Good luck

Thats not bad at all. In the last 7 months I've earned over $380,000 and the niche thats MEGA for this is your own products / services.

Whatever you have been doing so far, why not scale it up? SEO is HUGE if you know what you are doing. You can capitalize off what you already know. Definitely time for you to scale up man.

$300,000,00 is a lot of money to earn from whatever you do online therefore it's hard to believe the story you're telling given the questions you're asking.

To put into prospective, in order to earn $300,000.00 in period of 2 years, like you claim you did, you'll have to earn at least $410 daily (on average). Personally I find it hard to believe you did it, not that it's not possible but you seems to know nothing at all about how to do so.

Even though things did really change from 2009, by earning $300k you will at least know where to look for answers and advice, and it's surly not by asking general questions and starting a thread.

Instead of claiming to make $300k to gain reputation or whatever you're trying to do, you can just ask questions like any other member and get better response if you're honest, that's what forums are all about, but if you do try to cheat your way in for getting advice, I'd leave mine somewhere else.

I like you, but I'm new in the MMO, I am doing affiliate marketing, but have not obtained any pieces, your 300k is my dream that, if there are any plans or share for me with, thank you very much and wish you success

Hello guys!

Thank you for all your nice replies!

I understand if some of you think that I just want to gain reputation or something, like BloggingDiaries said. That's not true. I rather thought that 300k in two years are not that much for some of you guys here.

@sogeshirts
Thank you for this great and simple idea. I will add you on skype for sure. Thanks!

@professorrosado
That's so true. Right now I'm still dependent from Google & Co. I will create e-mail lists in every niche I come in the future. Thank you professor.

@Edwin Torres
Thank you Edwin, I will give my best.

@Dasilva Marketing
Yes, I have to do these steps now. You guys really motivate me. Thanks a ton.

@The Niche Man
Of course I can tell you what I did.
What to do not: Getting lazy like me until the income decreases and you stand in the middle of nowhere and don't know how to act. When you earn money, don't stop and become lazy like I did. Always stay hungry - I didn't. I was fine with the money I earned and didn't want to earn millions of dollars. But this was only one income stream and thats really dangerous for sure.
And what else NOT do to: Save some money. I didn't. I lived my live like I wanted and bought things I didn't need.

@BloggingDiaries
I don't really care that you think that I could lie. For what? Do you have such thoughts in your mind that one could lie about his past income? I don't really know what your problem is. But thank you for being skeptical.
And yes: the average of $410 a day is correct. You must be a mathematician

@discrat
Haha, great idea discrat! You're cool Thanks, this is definitely something I could add as a chapter in a digital product when it comes to make money online.

@storejvz
Of course, please send me your skype id. I will add you and will have a chat

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Thanks to all of you again! And thank you for the people who send me PMs.

I really appreciate that you guys take the time to talk with me about my situation (you're the ones who are in the same business) and help me out. Even posts like from BloggingDiaries help somehow in a positive way

Wow, lots of jaded doubters in this thread. What's wrong with believing what he has to say? Can't even take the guy at his word that he did what he said he did?

I'd suggest a book detailing how it all went wrong so others can learn from you. Think Wolf of Wall Street, or in this case, Wolf of Warrior Forum. Create it as product, lots of pictures and be try to keep it light.

Hi smith1337,

I honestly don't know if you're legit or not, but either way I'll throw my 2 cents in here. Hopefully I can help you either way...

Did you build a list during your massive success years? Do you still talk to that list? Like on a regular basis? (weekly at least?) I sure hope so.

You've probably heard this before, but the money really is in the list. If you're building a list who TRULY know, like and trust you, they will pretty much buy whatever you recommend (within reason, related to your niche of course).


If you do have a list, I recommend you start emailing them on a daily basis or at least 2-3 times a week. Give them free help/training/advice related to your niche. Tell them your story of massive success, show them some proof, and even share some of your struggles. If you have a list you haven't spoke to in ages, pour your heart into them and give them all you can,
make it hard for them NOT to love you!


Be sure to build up a high level of trust and respect before you attempt to pitch them anything though.

The rules are the same for a new list or an old (ignored) one. But the older they are, the more you'll need to warm them up with tons of valuable content before you attempt to sell them.

Obviously you want a fresh lead flow too to back-fill any unsubscribes.

A list of loyal subscribers will always be there for you, no matter what changes happen in your SEO traffic flow. They like you as a person/brand, not necessarily for the product/business you're selling. Make sense?


Hope that helps buddy.

If you'd like an legit answer and legit advice... Read on...

If you don't just skip this over, because I'm going to hurt.

Get off your high horse and get back to grinding. You've admitted what the problem is. You got lazy. Your process didn't break or die or XYZ. You stopped caring and let it slide off.

Sell some of your most likely over the top 'fixed costs' and grind. Study SEO again, since that worked so well for you. Start working 10 hours a day again.

From what you said, you built something and it made you a lot of money. Great. Do it again. You're coming here like a broken puppy asking for magic bullets and beans because you screwed up.

Get off your high horse, cut costs and get back to the grind. If your market is there still get back to it. Don't come here asking about quick fixes... They don't exist. Pay the Piper and grind.

Sell your fixed costs and tell your family you screwed up and then grind. Grind. GRIND!

It sucks but you'll get there. Don't try to fix whats not broken. Don't get distracted by quick fixes. Go back to the gridiron and grind.

Good luck.

You have a lot to learn about WF.

I made six million before breakfast this morning. I can't tell you how I did it but I want to ask how I can make $50 so I can pay the light bill.

I assume everything I read on here is bullshit until I determine otherwise through independent research, experience or common sense.