How Well Known A Marketer Do You Want To Be?

by Steven Wagenheim 36 replies
This has been going on for quite some time now, and I actually find it quite
amusing, but there is this one person who goes to a good number of my
articles at EZA and gives them 1 star ratings. Now, I'm no Hemmingway, but
1 star? Doubtful they're that bad when I'll occasionally get somebody come
by and give me a decent rating.

But that's not the point.

Some people may look to read one of these articles, see they're rated 1 star
and not read them because they'll believe they are not helpful. This in turn
could mean the difference between me getting an opt in and not and
eventually making a sale.

But that's not the point either.

This IS.

As you get higher up the food chain, people are going to start taking pot
shots at you any way they can. They may not be customers but
competitors trying to discredit you. Hey, it happens...we all know this.

Point is (I'm finally getting to it) I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off
if my name wasn't getting around. I'm certainly no Frank Kern, John Reese
or Mike Filsaime, but I'm no John Doe either and I'm starting to realize that.

I find it an uncomfortable feeling. I didn't start getting stalkers at EZA
until I had around 20,000 pages about me over at Google. Until then, any
ratings I got on my articles were earned, and no, not all of them were 5
star gems, but it became quite obvious that I have a stalker intent on
damaging my credibility.

There is a trade off between anonymity and fame. I honestly don't know
which is more desirable anymore. Yeah, the money is nice, but seeing
people taking pot shots at you is not so nice. I admit, I don't particularly
enjoy it. Which one of us would?

And the reason I know it's somebody taking shots is because this doesn't
happen with any of my alias author names. Only articles written under my
real name.

Anyway, how do you feel about the whole "fame" thing?

If you're not there yet, do you really want it?

If you are there, or getting there, do you enjoy it all?

Are there parts of it you can do without? And mind you, I haven't even
touched on all the people who send you inane emails asking you for JVs
and whatever. I don't mind a professional approach, but some of these
emails are as lame as you can imagine. I mean heck, they don't even have
the courtesy to spell my name right.

Ultimately, this isn't a big deal. Yeah, it's annoying but as long as I don't
wake up one day and find that my sales have dropped to zero because
somebody went on an all out campaign to discredit me, I'm cool with it.

But at what point won't I be?

At what point won't YOU be?

Have you ever really thought about this?

I'd love to hear from people at both ends of the spectrum.

Come on John Reese...what's it REALLY like to be a star?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jelasco
    Steven, any system where visitors can rate things is prone to abuse like you describe, especially on a site like that where your competitors might want to harm you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Jelasco View Post

      Steven, any system where visitors can rate things is prone to abuse like you describe, especially on a site like that where your competitors might want to harm you.
      Thanks Jelasco, but how do you feel about fame?

      Is it something you want, or would you just assume avoid it and go through
      marketing life anonymously just as long as you were still making money?
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      • Profile picture of the author Amino Zawawi
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Thanks Jelasco, but how do you feel about fame?

        Is it something you want, or would you just assume avoid it and go through
        marketing life anonymously just as long as you were still making money?
        It's so true what you said about EZA. For me, I would prefer to stay anonymous and make big bucks, it's hard to have someone breathing down your neck and watching what you're doing all the time.

        When we're not famous, we just have the right to experiment and fail. Famous marketers will just have a flood of followers following their lead thinking it's the new golden goose.
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      • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
        Steve,

        Those people are scared by your ideas and this means you're branding well. They don't have "the guts" to do what you do, failing to differentiate themselves from you.

        They'll stay average while you rise above.

        They have no idea what you have done to build your fame, they just want the same thing but also know it takes too much work so it's not for them. So instead of trying to work as hard as you do, they're discrediting you hoping you'll lose your positioning.

        But you won't because you've already positioned yourself so much better than those people. They'll eventually leave you alone, realizing they can't compete in the same niche you're in.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
          Hi Steve,

          I feel for you.

          Fame and fortune always has a price one way or another.

          Here is a song from Creedence that reminds me of this fact my friend...

          I've never wanted to be famous and would rather live quietly and peacefully on a river or exotic Island...

          It looks like jealous people are the norm when you really start to make money or start to get well known in your niche. I think it's just a mind set. It makes me happy to see others success. It's inspiring... But for some people it's very discouraging because they are struggling so hard to be successful. Simply changing ones "mind set" would probably help those type of people to succeed.

          What you put your attention on manifests to its greatest reality...


          Cheers,
          Dean
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      • Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Thanks Jelasco, but how do you feel about fame?

        Is it something you want, or would you just assume avoid it and go through
        marketing life anonymously just as long as you were still making money?
        I'd 1000% rather be anonymous and still make money. For one, I'm a relatively private person. I don't need or want everybody knowing who I am. Two, I would rather make money without the big office with employees and the whole nine yards. That's what I'm trying to get AWAY from.

        Your post has reminded me that as I branch out into various niches, I want to use different pen names. I do not need fame, thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Hi Steven,

    I've seen the same thing too. I just ignore it.

    As long as you keep your business building, random haters having pot shots don't stand a chance of putting a dent in it.

    The way I look at things now is that I've come so far that even if the Internet got switched off tomorrow I'd just adapt to the new environment and move forward in a new and different way.

    Life's way too short to worry about people rating your articles low.

    Just focus on the positive things you are doing and let the rest wash over you.

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Hi Steven,

      I've seen the same thing too. I just ignore it.

      As long as you keep your business building, random haters having pot shots don't stand a chance of putting a dent in it.

      The way I look at things now is that I've come so far that even if the Internet got switched off tomorrow I'd just adapt to the new environment and move forward in a new and different way.

      Life's way too short to worry about people rating your articles low.

      Just focus on the positive things you are doing and let the rest wash over you.

      Andy

      Thanks Andy. I see you just broke 4,000 posts. Was there a post to
      celebrate the occasion? Always look forward to your words of wisdom.

      Oh, and it's great to see that you have a dynamite attitude about these
      things.
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    • Profile picture of the author dbh
      Aww gee Steven, I'm sorry that I went around and boo-booed your writings . Seriously, I'd agree with someone above and say just ignore it. The person(s) who do this are likely jealous competitors.

      As to fame, I don't want any part of it myself. No aspirations that way at all. My high comes from my ability to provide for myself and others, and the smiles which I see on people whom I am able to help.....

      <edit> Of course, if you can't help the fame, you can always wear an online disguise


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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
        Fame. It is both a curse and a blessing. My preference would be to be like Eben Pagan but never reveal my real name or photo. Dan Kennedy however advocates that you want to be famous in your niche.

        I know of lottery winners that used a trust, never revealed their name, and have quietly been enjoying a great life with lots of money in the bank. That's for me. No use attracting attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
    Hey Steve,

    how true it is .

    Misery loves company and there are more people who like to compain and put others down rather than taking initiative with their own lives.

    Ya know, when I started out 10 years ago with my offline business all i wanted was to do the right thing, help people be successful and take care of my family.

    I did not realize then that everything you are saying does happen. It does not matter what business you are in. As my business grew so did the amount of people with an opinion.

    The vast majority of people simply do not like it when someone else is achieving something that they themselves cannot achieve. The sad truth is that those people usually do not make anything out of their lives because they are too worried about someone else getting ahead of them and do not focus on what they need to do.

    But hey if running a business was easy everyone would be doing it! Instead the easy thing for most people to do is sabotage someone else

    [edit] My feeling about fame is ...If people are all watching me instead of themselves..then I am one step ahead of them and as long as I know I am doing the right things in life and not being deceptive then I welcome it. Because the good guy DOES win in the end. And usually the good guy will have a lot more friends who will support them than the guy who has hurt everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvan
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    I feel your pain to a lesser extent. Some idiot accused me of being a hypocrite by endorsing a scam (1on40) he had cookies to my site and thought i was posting against the site on scam.com. i thought it was legit back then. Now when people look me up on google, they can find someone bad mouthing me on the scam forum if they search enough. Honestly if I go to an article site of someone i know is reputable, i give them 5 stars regardless of how helpful their content was, i just think its a nice thing to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Point is (I'm finally getting to it) I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off
    if my name wasn't getting around. I'm certainly no Frank Kern, John Reese
    or Mike Filsaime, but I'm no John Doe either and I'm starting to realize that.
    Actually Steven, John Doe is very famous and often quoted [] To answer your original question, though, I like to fly under the radar. I have several pen names to isolate all the niches I enter. I was considering using my real name for my IM articles, but after seeing your post, I am reconsidering it.

    TomG.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Steven, thanks for your insights.

    The longer I work in this niche, the more I recognize all the negativity that comes with it.

    People really WILL take shots at you out of jealousy or whatever. Maybe they're angry critics (and philosophers) who can't seem to make a buck. Don't know.


    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    This has been going on for quite some time now, and I actually find it quite
    amusing, but there is this one person who goes to a good number of my
    articles at EZA and gives them 1 star ratings. Now, I'm no Hemmingway, but
    1 star? Doubtful they're that bad when I'll occasionally get somebody come
    by and give me a decent rating.

    But that's not the point.

    Some people may look to read one of these articles, see they're rated 1 star
    and not read them because they'll believe they are not helpful. This in turn
    could mean the difference between me getting an opt in and not and
    eventually making a sale.

    But that's not the point either.

    This IS.

    As you get higher up the food chain, people are going to start taking pot
    shots at you any way they can. They may not be customers but
    competitors trying to discredit you. Hey, it happens...we all know this.

    Point is (I'm finally getting to it) I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off
    if my name wasn't getting around. I'm certainly no Frank Kern, John Reese
    or Mike Filsaime, but I'm no John Doe either and I'm starting to realize that.

    I find it an uncomfortable feeling. I didn't start getting stalkers at EZA
    until I had around 20,000 pages about me over at Google. Until then, any
    ratings I got on my articles were earned, and no, not all of them were 5
    star gems, but it became quite obvious that I have a stalker intent on
    damaging my credibility.

    There is a trade off between anonymity and fame. I honestly don't know
    which is more desirable anymore. Yeah, the money is nice, but seeing
    people taking pot shots at you is not so nice. I admit, I don't particularly
    enjoy it. Which one of us would?

    And the reason I know it's somebody taking shots is because this doesn't
    happen with any of my alias author names. Only articles written under my
    real name.

    Anyway, how do you feel about the whole "fame" thing?

    If you're not there yet, do you really want it?

    If you are there, or getting there, do you enjoy it all?

    Are there parts of it you can do without? And mind you, I haven't even
    touched on all the people who send you inane emails asking you for JVs
    and whatever. I don't mind a professional approach, but some of these
    emails are as lame as you can imagine. I mean heck, they don't even have
    the courtesy to spell my name right.

    Ultimately, this isn't a big deal. Yeah, it's annoying but as long as I don't
    wake up one day and find that my sales have dropped to zero because
    somebody went on an all out campaign to discredit me, I'm cool with it.

    But at what point won't I be?

    At what point won't YOU be?

    Have you ever really thought about this?

    I'd love to hear from people at both ends of the spectrum.

    Come on John Reese...what's it REALLY like to be a star?
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    • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
      Steven,

      I see what you mean. I threw in a few 5 star ratings to balance things out. Yes, that person was very unfair, an anonymous coward!

      TomG.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Lee
        I'd rather be rich than famous, don't you agree? To be like a superhero. Having great power but disguising himself to be a normal human.

        Cheers,
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          I've been kicking the cash cow "under the radar" for years...

          Publicity ain't my thing...

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        • Profile picture of the author Mary Gallivan
          Hi Steven

          Sorry to hear what's been happening to you.

          As for fame - no, it's not for me. I use my real name because I read a few posts in the forum some time ago where it was advised to use it to build up a reputation and credibility.

          All I want is to be successful and success to me is determined from within. I may only make a fraction of he profits that the big marketers make but if I feel successful with what I have achieved then that's good enough for me.

          Best wishes

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        • Profile picture of the author countdevio
          I'd just rather have the money ... I've already had the
          fame .... It is fun for 5 minutes ... until you realize there's
          someone's nose up your butt .. everytime you turn around ..

          and in the end ... it is all an illusion ....

          Donald Trump will emblazon his name upon all his
          buildings ..... but 20-30-50 years from now .. the Donald
          will just be fodder for earthworms (considering he isn't
          creamated) ... and it won't make a hoot ... and no one
          will ask why Trump Tower is called Trump Tower
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Monty
            I don't worry about it too much. I just write good content, try to help people, and figure the rest will just fall into place.

            I like that quote from "Star Trek: First Contact"...

            "Don't try to be a GREAT man. Just be a man, and let history decide."
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            • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
              I'm more interested in being a brand than a marketer.
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            • Profile picture of the author zerofill
              I would totally hate fame...mainly because I don't want to be like Britney Spears sheesh look what it did to her...lol

              Actually I am well known in some circles of telecom but not out in the spotlight... I like the behind the scenes fame...but not the spotlight fame. Meaning a go to guy for things..praised behind the scenes but not pushed out in the spotlight. Mainly because those telecom people don't want other telecom people to know me roflmao.

              Some people crave it...they need attention to survive...I was a loner growing up. In Real LIfe I have 2 friends...I don't look for more...never wanted more. For some reason I was still popular in high school etc...and didn't even want to be. I was popular with people wherever I worked. (Except the Commanding officer, CMC, and DIVO in the Navy lol)

              I think part of that was based on trust...people felt they could trust me and rightfully so. You want to tell a secret to someone? Tell it to me... I will forget by tomorrow. So you can trust me LOL. I don't normally care to remember. I have to many things going through my head as is and have no room for it. I need to buy a memory upgrade for my brain. My wife will find out something about someone I already knew and be mad at me for not telling her lol. But I don't even think of it that way...it just goes in and gets stored somewhere or flushed from cache at power down and startup HAHA.

              I like helping people and answering questions if they have them...I crave knowledge in so many forms. I am constantly learning. My TV never goes off Discovery, The learning channel, Science Channel, National Geographic channel.

              A lot of people that help others crave notoriety...they want to have the fact that they helped someone made public. I don't see anything wrong with that...you want a payment of some sort for your time. Me I don't care about it...I might make a joke about it like I did in the thread about Rep...but I am not serious at all.

              If you needed help from me I would rather you post it in a PM and ask me...and I don't care if you tell anyone I helped you or not...Hell a lot of times I don't even get a thank you back in PMs or in IRC chats...but that doesn't even bother me lol. I think I am just an odd person..."My wife would agree"

              So fame has never been on my agenda...if it happens fine..I will deal with it. BUt I am not looking for it.
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            • Hi Steven,

              I'm not sure wether you are aware of it, but we have a rather nasty stalker on kickstartprofits.com. We got to the point recently where we had just had enough, and ended up reading out some of the most offensive comments on a podcast.

              Not nice at all, and we are very small fish. I feel for the big guys.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeRogers
                Fame?

                Ask Morgan Freeman...

                He wrecked his car in my Dad's front yard this week (Some time around midnight) and, before they even got him out, there was close to 50 people just standing around taking pictures and ooohing and ahhing. Not helping, mind you, just getting in the way!

                His troubles did not stop there, however. He was also in the car with a female passenger. His wife finds out through all the press coverage and, now as I understand it, she's filing for divorce!

                Fame? Naaah... You can keep it.

                But, you know Steve, you can always use a pen name at EA.

                Mike
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                • Profile picture of the author michellegreen
                  OMG Steven, I thought it was just someone picking on ME!

                  It's only started to happen to me over the last month or so, and I figured that they're obviously someone in the same niche.

                  I'm thinking that this is probably a good thing because my niche is HUGE and if I'm good enough for them to feel threatened enough to try to discredit me, then maybe I'm good enough to do really well in this niche - just look at the top internet marketers out there - they have people trying to bring them down all the time.
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                • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
                  Originally Posted by MikeRogers View Post

                  Fame?

                  Ask Morgan Freeman...

                  He wrecked his car in my Dad's front yard this week (Some time around midnight) and, before they even got him out, there was close to 50 people just standing around taking pictures and ooohing and ahhing. Not helping, mind you, just getting in the way!

                  His troubles did not stop there, however. He was also in the car with a female passenger. His wife finds out through all the press coverage and, now as I understand it, she's filing for divorce!

                  Fame? Naaah... You can keep it.

                  But, you know Steve, you can always use a pen name at EA.

                  Mike
                  Excellent story, that must suck..
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

        Steven,

        I see what you mean. I threw in a few 5 star ratings to balance things out. Yes, that person was very unfair, an anonymous coward!

        TomG.
        Thanks Tom, but this has been going on for a long time now. I thought
        after a while he'd let up, but he's one persistent little bugger.

        If only he worked this hard at his business.
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          Anyone can be a tough guy behind a keyboard Steven..

          Don't let him/her get ya... the universe rewards like for like..

          If you're good.. you'll get good...

          If you're bad.. you'll get bad..

          Let him have it

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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    This has been going on for quite some time now, and I actually find it quite
    amusing, but there is this one person who goes to a good number of my
    articles at EZA and gives them 1 star ratings. Now, I'm no Hemmingway, but
    1 star? Doubtful they're that bad when I'll occasionally get somebody come
    by and give me a decent rating.

    But that's not the point.

    Some people may look to read one of these articles, see they're rated 1 star
    and not read them because they'll believe they are not helpful. This in turn
    could mean the difference between me getting an opt in and not and
    eventually making a sale.

    But that's not the point either.

    This IS.

    As you get higher up the food chain, people are going to start taking pot
    shots at you any way they can. They may not be customers but
    competitors trying to discredit you. Hey, it happens...we all know this.

    Point is (I'm finally getting to it) I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off
    if my name wasn't getting around. I'm certainly no Frank Kern, John Reese
    or Mike Filsaime, but I'm no John Doe either and I'm starting to realize that.

    I find it an uncomfortable feeling. I didn't start getting stalkers at EZA
    until I had around 20,000 pages about me over at Google. Until then, any
    ratings I got on my articles were earned, and no, not all of them were 5
    star gems, but it became quite obvious that I have a stalker intent on
    damaging my credibility.

    There is a trade off between anonymity and fame. I honestly don't know
    which is more desirable anymore. Yeah, the money is nice, but seeing
    people taking pot shots at you is not so nice. I admit, I don't particularly
    enjoy it. Which one of us would?

    And the reason I know it's somebody taking shots is because this doesn't
    happen with any of my alias author names. Only articles written under my
    real name.

    Anyway, how do you feel about the whole "fame" thing?

    If you're not there yet, do you really want it?

    If you are there, or getting there, do you enjoy it all?

    Are there parts of it you can do without? And mind you, I haven't even
    touched on all the people who send you inane emails asking you for JVs
    and whatever. I don't mind a professional approach, but some of these
    emails are as lame as you can imagine. I mean heck, they don't even have
    the courtesy to spell my name right.

    Ultimately, this isn't a big deal. Yeah, it's annoying but as long as I don't
    wake up one day and find that my sales have dropped to zero because
    somebody went on an all out campaign to discredit me, I'm cool with it.

    But at what point won't I be?

    At what point won't YOU be?

    Have you ever really thought about this?

    I'd love to hear from people at both ends of the spectrum.

    Come on John Reese...what's it REALLY like to be a star?
    I don't really desire fame (celebrities being mobbed by the masses) but I wouldn't mind my WORK being recognized by the more astute (like say... a producer...i.e. Mark Burnett)
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    • Profile picture of the author Junkee
      I sell junk, nobody gets more sinister people taking pot shots at them than me. I'm amazed at the amount of people that try to get something for free or almost nothing. Most buyers are great but I had to take serious steps to keep the free loaders away so I didn't have to go through the hours and hours of dealing with them because even though they are trying to rip me off they refuse to lose. Truth!
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    Point is (I'm finally getting to it) I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off
    if my name wasn't getting around.

    I find it an uncomfortable feeling.

    There is a trade off between anonymity and fame.
    Anyway, how do you feel about the whole "fame" thing?
    Steven,

    I'll share my mini-fame experience. Years ago I started a business which attracted a lot of attention. I was on local radio, in newspapers and magazines and on TV. I attracted a "fan".

    Here's the thing, being nice only encourages them. My "fan" showed up at my house. Things got bad. Good news, no one was harmed. Since then my mantra is "fly low and collect the dough" (heck I even wrote a book on it).

    I know guys who are very cash wealthy/debt free and you would never know it. Would you suspect that tow truck driver with long hair and grease under his nails carries around 10k in cash on his person?

    I know the big names have good security systems for when they are gone to speak at a big seminar and tell the world they won't be home...some of them even show you pics of their mansions. Hope their security system installers are honest people.

    Anyhow. Fame for a private personality is an unbearable price. I doubt TMZ is going to show up at Reese's doorstep (but if he starts dating, uh, Brittany)...but even so, better him than me.

    There are many, many wealthy people (some even do Internet marketing too), who would just as soon you NOT know anything about them at all. And in 1969 two of the most signifcant events of the last millennium took place...the man on the moon...and the conversion of Armed Forces serial numbers to social security numbers. Which made it imerative that you understood the GIGO computer speak of the day.

    FAME? You can have it.

    I'll continue to fly low and collect the dough.

    gjabiz

    PS. If only that damn Paris Hilton would obey the restraining order. Or is it Perez Hilton? They both scare me! HA!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
    I want to be the ULTIMATE GURU.

    I want women to want me, men to want to be me, and children to put posters of me on their wall.

    And I want groupies to swoon. There must be lots of swooning.

    Wait.. I just described Moffatt. Dammit.

    Actually I'd be happy to stay relatively unknown, like batman.
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    • Profile picture of the author trafficwave
      Better off if your name wasn't getting around?

      I don't think so. You know there are people on your lists and around the planet that will at least consider any offer you put out there simply BECAUSE of your name. Your reputation and credibility are strong and that is one of your major selling points.

      Unfortunately, due to the duality of the world we live in, there have to be people that also want to take shots at you. I think the challenge comes from the fact that the negative/stalker/wacko/wannabe/freakazoids are usually just more vocal and critical and we tend to take that more personally.

      But if I am to be completely authentic here... on some level, part of why we do what we do in the world of IM is because we want to be liked as much as we want to make money. Sure, we sell products, services, etc... for "money" but at our core, the "money" is just a medium of helping us establish a sense of worth, value .... "fame".

      If we really didn't want "fame", would we be on these forums spreading our names, sharing information, and encouraging one another to achieve greater levels of success?

      We're here for a variety of reasons, sure. Some reasons may be more noble than others, perhaps. But if we're completely authentic, there is at least a little part of each and every one of us that does desire a level of fame.

      And that's not a bad thing.

      Fame can make you a target as you are experiencing over on EZA.

      Fame can also lend you credibility.

      Fame can open doors for you that may not be available to lesser known individuals.

      Fame can give you access in to lives on a whole new level. The power of fame can be used to accomplish great things. It can also be abused and do great damage. Unfortunately, most of what we see in the media is examples of the damage that can be done.

      Just my opinion, but I think that uncomfortable feeling you mentioned may be due to the fact that who you truly are is being stretched to a new level. It's unfamiliar. But it's not bad.
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    Steve

    The same thing happens in a b&m business (I have had a couple) and IMHO it is all "just water off a ducks back"
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  • Profile picture of the author fm1234
    I try to not associate my name with any of my sites or domains or products -- not because of internet stalkers but because aside from cross-branding, there's no reason to link them together. I was always a very private person and for ages even used a variety of usernames for forums (vs. fm1234, which is now universal for me everywhere I go pretty much) but the desire for privacy was a personal one, not a business one. For me, because I work across a broad spectrum of niches and see neither a need for or benefit to a "following" I've always just kept my name out of the stuff I do.


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