I quit online marketing..

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

About 2 years ago I decided to quit online marketing.

Instead I went to businesses in person, made phone calls, went to networking events.. and it's been a great experience.

But I want to return.

My worry however is that even though I was very successful before (making a little over $100,000 a year online), I want to make sure I've still got what it takes to be successful by marketing online..

What new strategies are there that I need to look into if I want to market to local businesses?

Any new social networks? Communities? Methods? Anything you can share would be great

If you made 100K a year less than 2 years ago with IM, then Iam sure you could provide a worthy Product that would give the strategies you used to get to that 6 figure income.

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Justin Lewis

10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

If you made 100K a year less than 2 years ago with IM, then Iam sure you could provide a worthy Product that would give the strategies you used to get to that 6 figure income.

- Robert Andrew

In terms of selling products/ebooks/courses, etc. I have no interest anymore. I'm more wanting to know if there are any new strategies, networks I need to focus my efforts on. I did very well with Facebook, YouTube and Twitter. Now I'd like to know what else there is.

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pischiopish

10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

If you made 100K a year less than 2 years ago with IM, then Iam sure you could provide a worthy Product that would give the strategies you used to get to that 6 figure income.

- Robert Andrew

+1 to that. And how about a wso offer listing all your methods? That would help us noobs too get by earning a little cash

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Tom Addams

10 years ago

It depends on the direction you want to take.

"Any new social networks? Communities? Methods?"

The answers to those questions will depend on that direction.

I see a pattern of doing well in an area of business and then leaving it for greener or perhaps just different pastures. I'd suggest, provisionally, to consider combining the two areas where you've had success. Without further information, a better answer isn't possible I'm afraid.

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Justin Lewis

10 years ago

I was into affiliate marketing pretty heavily, then doing mass web development for entrepreneurs, then I got into teaching and more recently I started working with small businesses.

I'd like to find more avenues to touch bases with small to medium sized business owners ultimately.

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Kurt

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

I was into affiliate marketing pretty heavily, then doing mass web development for entrepreneurs, then I got into teaching and more recently I started working with small businesses.

I'd like to find more avenues to touch bases with small to medium sized business owners ultimately.

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Lyfe Lyte

10 years ago

fb paid traffic for sure is the best ad source out there..if you master that you can pretty much sell anything...then with the retargeting it's smashing...

bet you can scale it up to 1 million in 2016

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The Niche Man

10 years ago

If you made $100,000 a year online, most of us should be asking you the questions. So, I'm curious as to why you're looking for something to distract you from what you were doing before? I'd just pick up from where I left off if it's possible.

We all can give you new, different, flavor of the month trends. But it probably won't make you $100,000 a year faster than what you already know. Sounds like you had the "Goose with the Golden egg" and now you want to deep fry it. (slapping my forehead).

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Justin Lewis

10 years ago

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

If you made $100,000 a year online, most of us should be asking you the questions. So, I'm curious as to why you're looking for something to distract you from what you were doing before? I'd just pick up from where I left off if it's possible.

We all can give you new, different, flavor of the month trends. But it probably won't make you $100,000 a year faster than what you already know. Sounds like you had the "Goose with the Golden egg" and now you want to deep fry it. (slapping my forehead).

Everyone is always blown away by the numbers, but it's not the lifestyle I wanted to lead. It was fun but exhausting at the same time. And then there were even moments where I would make $2,000 in a week for doing nothing and I got depressed.

I'm a creator, I like to take ideas and thrive with them as quickly as I can and then move onto the next idea. It's just how I am. Some people might think it's dumb, but I really enjoy seeing something achieve greatness.

To know I organize a motorcycle community with 3,000 riders, organize gaming communities with over 350,000 members, photography community with 200,000 fans and run a marketing company, while having done website development, taught hundreds of students and I'm traveling the country in an RV.. it's just a blessing. One where I feel I can touch so many different lives in so many different ways.

I'm able to raise money for charities with my motorcycle community, promote positive attitudes (against bullies) in the gaming community, share beautiful pictures with the photography community and help businesses grow feels so beautiful.

And then to be in an RV with the possibility of going anywhere I want with the most amazing girl I've ever known inspires me to do even more.

I only just started designing t-shirts and phone cases and already with minimal investment I was able to achieve some level of expertise.. I'm still no where near where I want to be, but I will be.

And the only way I can do that is by exploring avenues that I've never explored.

I might have done some great things, but I've had complete beginners that have helped me come up with ideas that have become extremely successful.

Haha, hope my rant didn't go too out of scope, but I wanted to make sure you understood why I want help.

Ideas, from conversations with beginning and advanced marketers at the same time can do wonders.

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SMworkcafe

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

What new strategies are there that I need to look into if I want to market to local businesses?

Any new social networks? Communities? Methods? Anything you can share would be great

I don't have much experience as you have described but in order to contribute, I'd suggest you teaching people who you haven't already.

New social networks: Have you been into any Mastermind meetup recently? If no then you can definitely arrange it in your town. I'd love to be a part of a webinar arranged by you on some cool strategy which has worked for you in the past.

New communities: Why don't you consider teaching warriors over here instead of venturing out to other social mediums? Do you have a private community as a website or a private group on Facebook? I can be a full-time moderator within them

New methods: If I were to make $100,000 annually, I'd start preaching it to all the forum members out here. In new methods, you'd probably be looking into 'Joint Ventures' within this forum - I'm just guessing.

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Lurk

10 years ago

Originally Posted by SMworkcafe

I don't have much experience as you have described but in order to contribute, I'd suggest you teaching people who you haven't already.

New social networks: Have you been into any Mastermind meetup recently? If no then you can definitely arrange it in your town. I'd love to be a part of a webinar arranged by you on some cool strategy which has worked for you in the past.

New communities: Why don't you consider teaching warriors over here instead of venturing out to other social mediums? Do you have a private community as a website or a private group on Facebook? I can be a full-time moderator within them

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he dont want to do the same ol song and dance...and thank goodness. He isnt asking for methods he is asking for networks.

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SMworkcafe 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Lurk

he dont want to do the same ol song and dance...and thank goodness. He isnt asking for methods he is asking for networks.

You didn't read his post and my comment correctly.

Quoting again:

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

Any new social networks? Communities? Methods? Anything you can share would be great

There you go!
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Lurk

10 years ago

Time sure fly's doesnt seem like you been out the game for 2 years. Nevertheless, I remember your name.

My question, if you dont mind... could you explain a bit more what exactly you thinking you might want to offer small businesses online. I can tell from your post you are looking to do something different, perhaps from burn out on what you previously done.

As far as networks, there maybe some but the core ones that will make you your bulk money are still the same. I am sure you know better than anyone that there are no new tricks under the sun. I think all you need to do is just generate leads to your customer base. You already know how to target them.

Just adding my zimbabwe dolla.

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Miguelito203

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

About 2 years ago I decided to quit online marketing.

Instead I went to businesses in person, made phone calls, went to networking events.. and it's been a great experience.

But I want to return.

My worry however is that even though I was very successful before (making a little over $100,000 a year online), I want to make sure I've still got what it takes to be successful by marketing online..

What new strategies are there that I need to look into if I want to market to local businesses?

Any new social networks? Communities? Methods? Anything you can share would be great

Stuff hasn't really changed. You might want to try fulfillment by Amazon or publishing on Kindle -- if you haven't gone there, yet.

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GGpaul

10 years ago

Woah Justin,

No wonder I haven't seen your name.

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DRP

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Tom Addams

I see a pattern of doing well in an area of business and then leaving it for greener or perhaps just different pastures.

You see a pattern of that? Or do you see a pattern of people feigning success in a certain area and moving on to "greener" pastures? I think it's the latter in all likelihood.

Online, most people habitually lie. It doesn't matter if it's a college kid trying to impress people on Facebook, or a "guru" gloating about their "success". Same sh*t, different pile.

Plus, people don't abandon a cash cow. So the whole idea of a successful guru abandoning their cash cow for greener pastures is BS. The only time someone makes radical changes, or abandons it altogether, is because something is terribly wrong.

Originally Posted by Justin Lewis

About 2 years ago I decided to quit online marketing....

....Any new social networks? Communities? Methods? Anything you can share would be great

Not trolling, but I call BS on the OP. If you made anywhere near $100,000 (which you didn't), then you wouldn't have quit. Successful (money making) people do not quit a cash cow. It doesn't happen. Period.

On top of that, Don't be disingenuous. If you were focusing on offline consulting and such, you would still be utilizing online marketing anyway, so what you're saying is junk. There's no longer "online business" or "offline business". There's been a synthesis between the two in today's digitized world. It's just business and even offline operations need to utilize the internet...so again...there's no such thing as going offline. That's why even traditional corporations are also utilizing the internet and digital media. But I digress...

More likely, the truth is that you couldn't hack it (like most people) and hung it up for a while. Then recently, the allure of internet riches pulled you back...so now you're here asking for what's working now. These kinds of threads are a dime a dozen.

Best advice to you is to hang it up for good and get a real job, rather than playing make believe guru. Your mental health and financial future will thank you later for it.

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bangwhosnext 10 years ago

Have to agree with DRP on this^^^
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Lance K 10 years ago

Originally Posted by DRP

Successful (money making) people do not quit a cash cow. It doesn't happen. Period.

Dave Chappelle walked away from a $50 million cash cow.

I'm not saying there isn't any validity to your comments. But I don't think it's always so cut and dried.
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nontemplates

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DRP

Not trolling, but I call BS on the OP. If you made anywhere near $100,000 (which you didn't), then you wouldn't have quit. Successful (money making) people do not quit a cash cow. It doesn't happen. Period.

I thought he said he decided to go to offline business in his first post? but you guys really think $100,000 is too much to leave? Thats only about $2,000 a week. There are ton loads of offline business people making that.

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Synnuh

10 years ago

DRP, shit happens. Plain 'n simple. Take a shot, and chill.

OP, Check out Local Client Takeover on Facebook -- free training to get your feet on the ground again.

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storejvz

10 years ago

Please try affiliate marketing, I think it can also help you with the income to pay the small bills

otherwise, you can sell t-shirts through the channels, but this requires you to know to design

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Brent Stangel

10 years ago

More likely, the truth is that you couldn't hack it (like most people) and hung it up for a while. Then recently, the allure of internet riches pulled you back...so now you're here asking for what's working now. These kinds of threads are a dime a dozen.

I get like $17 per dozen and I've sold millions!

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tonycorletto

10 years ago

2 years is not that long, I honestly think you haven't miss much with regards to the online marketing business. If you want you can try affiliate marketing again, use facebook paid ads, or just continue what you've done before. As for the networks you should try Amazon.

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Samfakroon

10 years ago

Best in my Opinion is to do Paid Search its converting high and will thrive in local marketing.

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Raydal

10 years ago

I wouldn;t say a lot has chnaged and it depends on your business model,
but when I was out of the loop for a while because of school I found that
when I came back I had lost "presence". Because you are not around,
people do not know you and it's as i you have to develop that trust
factor again. Now if your business is mainly doing paid advertising, then
that's not so crucial, but since I was doing less of that, then personal
branding was more important to me.

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jeffreydale

10 years ago

Now is still a great time to be an internet marketer, there's a lot of money out there for the taking, you just have to grab it. Don't be too discouraged, a lot of successful marketers have had to take breaks, and completely fail several times before ever being successful. In fact, I don't think there are many that can actually say they hit it big just on the first roll. Those are few and far between.

Good luck OP.

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Kingshouse 10 years ago

Hi Justin

If Affiliate marketing made it last time to a $100k/yr I am sure you can make it work again.

Probably like riding a bike you'll get into it again...

No point trying to reinvent the wheel.

Give it a go.

All the best!

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dyaonna

10 years ago

why don't you create a way to do what you did offline in the online arena ?

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Justin Lewis

10 years ago

By the way and update on how life is going.

I ended up actually creating a phone case and t-shirt design that I am selling on Teespring. So far I've made $2,700 in the last 2 1/2 weeks of selling it and now I'm averaging at almost $350/day after spending $80/day on advertisements through Facebook.

I would REALLY love to use other social networks though so if someone knows a good advertising platform on other social networks, please let me know.

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Randall Magwood

10 years ago

Since 2 years ago not much has changed. Maybe except a few Google algorithms and Ezinearticles. Other than that you can still build up and maintain your $100,000 year income using current tactics. I think you know what to do. Do it.

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gjabiz

10 years ago

Resume and pick up. Build on what remnants are left.

ONLY do it faster now, cause yu have experience.

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jasonl70

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DRP

Not trolling, but I call BS on the OP. If you made anywhere near $100,000 (which you didn't), then you wouldn't have quit. Successful (money making) people do not quit a cash cow. It doesn't happen. Period.

My personal online marketing was always a side thing. I was hitting 5-6k per month online, EXTREMELY part time with a small underutilized list of 15,000. In the end, I could go weeks without ever doing a thing - maybe 10 hours per month max. I also had several car dealerships paying me $500 monthly for building/running/hosting their websites, as well as managing their adwords ppc for 20% of their spend (I had been an internet marketing director for a car dealership so knew the niche well).

I then became a partner in a startup and let my online business peter out on it's own over time because my interests were simply elsewhere. My start up failed after sucking a lot of my money away, so being in a pinch I just went back into IT contracting were I could easily make over 50/hr full time.

fast forward a couple years and I'm still working FT as a contractor, revisiting all my lessons learned from my online days in order to get back into it (I have a son to put through college starting next year!).

many years before all of this (2001-ish) I also once quit an 85/hr job out of sheer boredom and just day traded for about 6 months. I know many people who walked away from well paying jobs and successful business endeavors, for various reasons. It happens all the time. So your *opinion* is simply untrue.

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jumesh

10 years ago

Did you use retargeting the last time round? It can make a big difference to people deciding to contact you.

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