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Hi there

I've just been reading a post on the forum about article submission and come across something I've never heard off, what is an article spinner?

Also which article spinner/tool is the best one to use (if any)?!

I realise this is probably going to make me sound really silly but I am still quite new to IM and if you don't ask you don't get to know J

Thank you in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author BoDSN
    An article spinner takes our article an re-writes it into several different articles, making them all unique (search engine like unique content).

    I am not sure what program is the best as I seldom use article spinners
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by mohammad111 View Post

      I don't use article spinners either so sorry I can't help you with this.
      Then why post at all ?????? Increase your post count ???????

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author jakesellers
    For my money, the best article spinner is already at your fingertips. Once you've written a piece of content, it should be quick and efficient to change idioms and replace your key phrases with similar key phrases that will have search value. When I'm composing I usually keep alternative phrases, paragraphs and sentences that occur to me in brackets, doing copy editor and writer role at the same time, then save however many copies I intend to submit to various places, then mix and match the stuff in brackets to make them unique.

    Since the total number of possible unique articles is the product of however many alternatives you leave yourself, having at least one alternative in at least 4 places gives you 8 unique articles for the net effort of about two, a couple per paragraph gives the magic 30% and then some.
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    • Profile picture of the author KeywordMarketer
      Here's a couple of the better known spinners:

      http://www.contentcomposer.com/
      http://www.uniquearticlewizard.com/

      Here's a discount coupon for Content Composer that I had bookmarked . . . no idea if it's still valid:

      http://www.seo2020.com/internet-mark...-composer.html
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      • Profile picture of the author miwriting
        Whatever you do, don't use article spinning software! You're much better off rewriting parts of your article yourself or hiring a content writer to do it for you. When you use the article spinning software, you'll find that you spend more of your time trying to fix the awful articles it spits out than if you had just done it yourself in the first place!
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        • Profile picture of the author CmdrStidd
          I am getting ready to release a program that will spin the articles rather nicely as you have full control over the thesaurus and the way it spins the articles.

          You will also be able to mark your keywords and phrases and it will not alter them one bit. If you want, pm me and I will let you know when it is getting released.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by miwriting View Post

          Whatever you do, don't use article spinning software! You're much better off rewriting parts of your article yourself or hiring a content writer to do it for you. When you use the article spinning software, you'll find that you spend more of your time trying to fix the awful articles it spits out than if you had just done it yourself in the first place!
          1. Stop giving bad advice
          2. Read the forums before posting such hogwash
          3. It is obvious that you have no idea what a "real" spinner is

          I could go on but I really do not think I need to do so...

          James
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            1. Stop giving bad advice
            2. Read the forums before posting such hogwash
            3. It is obvious that you have no idea what a "real" spinner is

            I could go on but I really do not think I need to do so...

            James
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          • Profile picture of the author mrmuno
            What's a "real" spinner?
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by mrmuno View Post

              What's a "real" spinner?
              One that actually does what it was meant to do ....

              James
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            • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
              Originally Posted by mrmuno View Post

              What's a "real" spinner?

              Both James and myself (and others perhaps) have to be careful what we
              post here about this topic. We both sell the so called article spinners, a
              phrase that we both dislike, but we're not allowed to directly promote them.
              Rightly so in my opinion, otherwise with becomes a market place, and not a
              discussion forum. The WF is a special place, and we all want to keep it so.

              HTH

              Glenn
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              • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
                Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

                Both James and myself (and others perhaps) have to be careful what we
                post here about this topic. We both sell the so called article spinners, a
                phrase that we both dislike, but we're not allowed to directly promote them.
                Rightly so in my opinion, otherwise with becomes a market place, and not a
                discussion forum. The WF is a special place, and we all want to keep it so.

                HTH

                Glenn

                Thanks for clarifying this. Feel free to PM me with the details
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              • Profile picture of the author ecw
                Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

                Both James and myself (and others perhaps) have to be careful what we
                post here about this topic. We both sell the so called article spinners, a
                phrase that we both dislike, but we're not allowed to directly promote them.
                Rightly so in my opinion, otherwise with becomes a market place, and not a
                discussion forum. The WF is a special place, and we all want to keep it so.

                HTH

                Glenn
                I would be interested in knowing this also.
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            • Profile picture of the author theimdude
              Originally Posted by mrmuno View Post

              What's a "real" spinner?
              Unique article Wizard is a real spinner. The way you prepare you documents for UAW will give you excellent results. What you put in you get out. I have just started using Magic Article Rewriter to prepare my article as I am not a good writer.

              If referring to inserting a article and press the SPIN button and actaully expect something worthwhile out it just don't exist so dont waste your money. I have have tried a few and watch out for those that don't offer a refund as then you know it is no good.

              UAW offers a refund but it works.

              After spending much money this is what I do now.

              I found a writer that I pay $15 for 5 x 300 word articles custody to what want.

              I then use Magic Article Rewritter and spend +- 20 minutes on the article. I spin 3 articles and submit those to UAW. The I also use Magic Article Submitter that post a spinned article to +- 500 article directories and each one is unique.

              I also from learning you now take my unique articles I got and post them on "MY" site first.

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            • Profile picture of the author Glenn72
              Originally Posted by mrmuno View Post

              What's a "real" spinner?
              This is -



              For a free article spinner though, this is a good one to use that I sometimes use myself - Free Article Spinner: Write Once. Spin it. Publish Many. Backlinks Galore in SEO Heaven.
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          • Profile picture of the author miwriting
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            1. Stop giving bad advice
            2. Read the forums before posting such hogwash
            3. It is obvious that you have no idea what a "real" spinner is

            I could go on but I really do not think I need to do so...

            James
            For the couple of people above who chose to bash me personally instead of responding to the content of my post (James and Glenn), I still stand by my original opinion. It is based on three years of writing professionally on the web, so it is not in any way unfounded or ignorant. And yes, I have been reading posts here for the last two years and am quite familiar with spinners.

            I think that spinners will simply not give you the same results as far as content goes. If you want articles just for articles sake, then feel free. But from a content perspective, they just aren't the same, IMO.

            Feel free to disagree with me, but at least do it respectfully.
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            • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
              Originally Posted by miwriting View Post

              For the couple of people above who chose to bash me personally instead of responding to the content of my post (James and Glenn), I still stand by my original opinion. It is based on three years of writing professionally on the web, so it is not in any way unfounded or ignorant. And yes, I have been reading posts here for the last two years and am quite familiar with spinners.

              I think that spinners will simply not give you the same results as far as content goes. If you want articles just for articles sake, then feel free. But from a content perspective, they just aren't the same, IMO.

              Feel free to disagree with me, but at least do it respectfully.
              In that case, I respectfully point out that you're wrong with
              this assumption of modern tools. You're posting opinion (your
              own words), James and myself have posted well known and
              documented facts. You say you've read posts about articles
              spinners, but clearly you've missed the posts that counter
              your argument. Not sure if this is selective reading, or just
              bad luck, but what ever it is, you're misinformed, and you're
              spreading it.

              This post should enlighten you http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post710711

              Of course, it's possible that you wish to promote your
              writing skills, the better quality tools WILL hurt your
              business unless you learn how to integrate them into
              your model. James, Brandon, myself and some others
              are not here to fill the Internet with spam or badly
              written articles. Far from it, we want to provide tools
              that will help people leverage their time, and allow
              them to focus on the things they want to do, rather
              than just another business process.

              Some people enjoy writing, and quite like rewriting articles,
              and some people don't. At the end of the day, if you use the
              right tools, the rewritten article will be exactly the same quality
              as a hand written article. Often, new articles are superior to the
              originals.

              Glenn
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by miwriting View Post

              I think that spinners will simply not give you the same results as far as content goes. If you want articles just for articles sake, then feel free. But from a content perspective, they just aren't the same, IMO.

              Feel free to disagree with me, but at least do it respectfully.
              I am glad you think that but do not pass that bad advice onto others unless you state it as your "Opinion"....

              As for writting for the web for 3 years.. So ... I have been doing that for over 15 years, what is your point ?

              The FACT is spinners do work and work very well.. Glenn and Myself both have posted many examples many times over proving this and the articles that was posted as proof, you could not even tell which one was the original and which one was the spun version.

              Personally I am very tired of the spinner debate but it also is not right to pass on bad advice to others as facts when that advice is not facts to begin with....

              James
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        • Profile picture of the author Jag82
          Originally Posted by miwriting View Post

          Whatever you do, don't use article spinning software! You're much better off rewriting parts of your article yourself or hiring a content writer to do it for you. When you use the article spinning software, you'll find that you spend more of your time trying to fix the awful articles it spits out than if you had just done it yourself in the first place!
          Have you tried using an article spinning software before?

          If the output sucks, chances are little effort is being taken to rewrite the words/sentences.

          It takes a lot of work to rewrite them until it is human readable and flows well.

          Is it worth the effort? If you are looking to rewrite for only 2-3 articles, then nope.

          But if you are looking to create 20-100s of unique articles for submission to article directories/squidoo/hubpages etc...then you will save a lot of time by spinning your articles.

          This is about leverage. Getting returns many time over from a single piece of effort.

          Remember, the quality of the spun article depends on the human effort poured into it. Even if you were to manually re-write, it will not come out good if you were to do a slipshod job.

          By the way, I used to think article spinning is a waste of time. And I was appalled by the standard of the spun articles. Until I realized the stuff I just mentioned above.

          A good rewriting tool is crucial as well. A good tool, with minimal learning curve, will aid you in your productivity. And give you more time to focus on the re-writing rather than paying with the technical tweakings.

          PowerArticleRewriter comes with my utmost recommendation. But I'm sure there are many tools out there that can do the job.

          Jag
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          • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
            Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

            Have you tried using an article spinning software before?

            If the output sucks, chances are little effort is being taken to rewrite the words/sentences.

            It takes a lot of work to rewrite them until it is human readable and flows well.

            Is it worth the effort? If you are looking to rewrite for only 2-3 articles, then nope.

            But if you are looking to create 20-100s of unique articles for submission to article directories/squidoo/hubpages etc...then you will save a lot of time by spinning your articles.

            This is about leverage. Getting returns many time over from a single piece of effort.

            Remember, the quality of the spun article depends on the human effort poured into it. Even if you were to manually re-write, it will not come out good if you were to do a slipshod job.

            By the way, I used to think article spinning is a waste of time. And I was appalled by the standard of the spun articles. Until I realized the stuff I just mentioned above.

            A good rewriting tool is crucial as well. A good tool, with minimal learning curve, will aid you in your productivity. And give you more time to focus on the re-writing rather than paying with the technical tweakings.

            PowerArticleRewriter comes with my utmost recommendation. But I'm sure there are many tools out there that can do the job.

            Jag
            you are so far behind the times.. autojetspinner.com does this to your text -


            Remember, the {standard|quality} of the spun article {relie|depend}s on the human effort poured into it. Even if you were to manually re-write, it w{on'|ill no}t come out good if you were to do a{ slipshod| cheap| sub-standard} job. {By the way|BTW|Incidentally}, I used to think {article|content} spinning is a waste of {your |}time. And I was {horrifi|appall|confound}ed by the standard of the spun articles. {Unti|Til}l I realized the stuff I just {mention|discuss}ed above. A good re{-word|writ|phras}ing tool is {vit|cruci|critic}al {as well |too}. A good tool, with minimal learning curve, will {help|aid} you in your {productivity|effectiveness|productiveness}. And give you more time to {focus on|target} the re-writing {rather than|instead of} paying with the technical tweakings.


            looks ok to me.
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            • Profile picture of the author BigRedNotebook
              Both sides of the spin/no-spin argument are absolutely correct.

              There are situations in which spinners WON'T do what you need them to do and/or CAN'T meet required quality points. In some cases, the better spinners are far too labor-intensive to make their use viable.

              There are situations in which a high-quality spinner will do MORE than what you need and may actually produce variations SUPERIOR to the source material. In some cases, they can be extremely efficient relative to their output.

              The problem with sweeping statements about these tools is that they're premised on a set of unrevealed assumptions that aren't universally applicable.

              The same spinner can be both a godsend and a heap of steaming garbage. It all rests on who's using it for what purpose.

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            • Profile picture of the author Jag82
              Originally Posted by Jon Alexander View Post

              you are so far behind the times.. autojetspinner.com does this to your text -


              Remember, the {standard|quality} of the spun article {relie|depend}s on the human effort poured into it. Even if you were to manually re-write, it w{on'|ill no}t come out good if you were to do a{ slipshod| cheap| sub-standard} job. {By the way|BTW|Incidentally}, I used to think {article|content} spinning is a waste of {your |}time. And I was {horrifi|appall|confound}ed by the standard of the spun articles. {Unti|Til}l I realized the stuff I just {mention|discuss}ed above. A good re{-word|writ|phras}ing tool is {vit|cruci|critic}al {as well |too}. A good tool, with minimal learning curve, will {help|aid} you in your {productivity|effectiveness|productiveness}. And give you more time to {focus on|target} the re-writing {rather than|instead of} paying with the technical tweakings.


              looks ok to me.
              Yes it looks okay to me. Thank you for pointing that out.

              Website content wizard (which I own) can do the job (auto-spinning) too.
              They help a lot. But to a certain extend.

              As there are instances whereby we cannot use a replacement word for word. Because the context matters. While some may bring a nice fit, some other word replacement can totally screw up the sentence to become utterly unreadable.

              At this time, I still believe human intervention is needed:

              1. To ensure words are replaced with alternative words/phrases that fit the context of the
              sentence...

              2. To have sentences can be replaced automatically (and not just single words).

              If such a tool is available to do the above, with totally no human intervention (zero editing) and achieve a uniqueness of at least 30-40%, I'll be the first on the train to get it.

              Jag

              P.S I'll take a 2nd look at Content Boss. =)
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              • Profile picture of the author SageSound
                Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

                If such a tool is available to do the above, with totally no human intervention (zero editing) and achieve a uniqueness of at least 30-40%, I'll be the first on the train to get it.
                That will happen as soon as they've figured out how to do accurate machine translation between languages ... which won't happen anytime soon.

                Look up the word "run" in any English dictionary. I think it holds the record of having the most variations in its meaning. It can also be used legitimately in just about every part of speech: noun, verb (both transitive and intransitive), adjective, adverb, participle, etc.

                Any automated solution that encounters the word 'run' in a sentence will have one heck of a time trying to come up with contextually meaningful synonyms without some help from a bona fide "expert" in the language -- ie., human intervention.

                Oh, yeah, 'run' is also one of the 100 most frequently used words in the English language. More frequent words tend to have a greater number of semantic variations like this. They are also more understandable to readers with more limited vocabulary.

                And let's not forget idiomatic usages, alliterations, syllogisms, etc.

                All of which means that it's gonna be a LONG TIME before automated tools can effectively "spin" English text written for average 6th-grade readers!

                The best suggestion I've ever seen for a pretty decent spinner program is to paste your text into any online language translation tool, translate to another language, then translate it back. Every time you'll get something different, although the "gist" of the material will quickly start to diverge from the original intent.

                -David
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                • Profile picture of the author Jag82
                  Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

                  That will happen as soon as they've figured out how to do accurate machine translation between languages ... which won't happen anytime soon.

                  Look up the word "run" in any English dictionary. I think it holds the record of having the most variations in its meaning. It can also be used legitimately in just about every part of speech: noun, verb (both transitive and intransitive), adjective, adverb, participle, etc.

                  Any automated solution that encounters the word 'run' in a sentence will have one heck of a time trying to come up with contextually meaningful synonyms without some help from a bona fide "expert" in the language -- ie., human intervention.

                  Oh, yeah, 'run' is also one of the 100 most frequently used words in the English language. More frequent words tend to have a greater number of semantic variations like this. They are also more understandable to readers with more limited vocabulary.

                  And let's not forget idiomatic usages, alliterations, syllogisms, etc.

                  All of which means that it's gonna be a LONG TIME before automated tools can effectively "spin" English text written for average 6th-grade readers!

                  David,

                  My exact sentiments! So far, I've not encountered a tool that can replicate the intelligence of a human brain - as far as article spinning is concerned.

                  And as you said, I suspect such technologies is still some way off.

                  Jag
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                • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
                  Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

                  The best suggestion I've ever seen for a pretty decent spinner program is to paste your text into any online language translation tool, translate to another language, then translate it back. Every time you'll get something different, although the "gist" of the material will quickly start to diverge from the original intent.

                  -David
                  disagree. a good spinner does this to your text:-

                  The best idea I have ever seen for a very good spinner program is to stick your text into any online language interpretation tool, translate into another language, then retranslate it. Each time you will get something else, though the guts of the material will quickly begin to stray from the initial intention.

                  whereas translating into chinese and back gives this:-

                  Best suggestion I' Will see ve for a quite honest spinner program to paste to attach your text to enter all on-line language translation tool, translate to another language, will then translate it. Each time you' ll obtains the matter to be different, although " gist" The material will start rapidly from the primitive intention divergence

                  no offense, but the 'slap it thru a language translator' is about the worst thing you can do (short of markoving it) if you want text that can be used for any real purpose. The above, btw, can be verified by anyone with a contentboss account, and access to babelfish.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    Whatever you do, don't use article spinning software! You're much better off rewriting parts of your article yourself or hiring a content writer to do it for you. When you use the article spinning software, you'll find that you spend more of your time trying to fix the awful articles it spits out than if you had just done it yourself in the first place!
    This kind of ignorant comment comes up every time threads are started about article
    spinners. You really should do your research before posting about something you
    clearly have no real knowledge about.

    Some people play games with their toys, and get the results you'd expect from that.
    Others implement strategies using industrial strength tools and get real results.

    Glenn
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    • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
      Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

      This kind of ignorant comment comes up every time threads are started about article
      spinners. You really should do your research before posting about something you
      clearly have no real knowledge about.

      Some people play games with their toys, and get the results you'd expect from that.
      Others implement strategies using industrial strength tools and get real results.

      Glenn
      I understand why you would be upset about this comment, but for the most part, he is right. I have used 4-5 different spinners, and none of them are any good. One of them, I paid over $100 for. That is why now I just write, write, and write some more. It is cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    Aren't you allowed to promote them as long as you didn't start the thread?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Jon Alexander View Post

      Aren't you allowed to promote them as long as you didn't start the thread?
      Although many do this, I have been banned for just mentioning a "PM ME" with no link, no product name or anything... So to answer your question I would say no you are not allowed...

      Example: I have been banned for doing just this (only I used PM and not slap a email) - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post1051235

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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    Jon, there's a bit of red tape around the whole promoting thing. If someone asks a question about article creation tools in a thread, I could plug some elses product but maybe not my own product that also creates unique articles. It's kind of wrong really.

    I think if someone legitimatly asks for suggestions for a specific type of tool then I think members should be able to give answers even if it includes their own.

    You do have to be carefull though as their is a fine line between offering a suggestion / giving advice and activelt plugging your product.

    It's a funny one.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    This thread has kind of turned but I have a question. I ran across and can't find now a program (desktop, not online) that is just like PAR but that saves all of your synonym preferences for future spinning so that I don't have enter them each time.

    For instance, I want every article that I spin to sub out "internet|net|web"

    I like Power Article Rewriter a lot but that's the 1 thing that's missing imo. Anyone know of something that adds this feature?
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      This thread has kind of turned but I have a question. I ran across and can't find now a program (desktop, not online) that is just like PAR but that saves all of your synonym preferences for future spinning so that I don't have enter them each time.

      For instance, I want every article that I spin to sub out "internet|net|web"

      I like Power Article Rewriter a lot but that's the 1 thing that's missing imo. Anyone know of something that adds this feature?

      MODS: please feel free to delete this reply if you feel it in breach of forum rules.


      At the risk of being accused of pimping my own products, ArtiFact handles this as a matter of course.

      HTH

      Glenn
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      This thread has kind of turned but I have a question. I ran across and can't find now a program (desktop, not online) that is just like PAR but that saves all of your synonym preferences for future spinning so that I don't have enter them each time.

      For instance, I want every article that I spin to sub out "internet|net|web"

      I like Power Article Rewriter a lot but that's the 1 thing that's missing imo. Anyone know of something that adds this feature?
      I know several systems that DO SAVE your spin points...

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author mashburn
    I personnally tried to use some spinners but got dismal results.i use wordflood 2.0 which seems to work good for me.But you could use content kingdom they will write you an unique article for about $11.00 not sure of the quality yet.

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  • Profile picture of the author marketingjitsu
    I bought the Brad Callen article spinner a while ago but it didn't help me much. Maybe I was using it wrong, but the spun articles weren't different enough from the original. I might start using it again more seriously though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by marketingjitsu View Post

      I bought the Brad Callen article spinner a while ago but it didn't help me much. Maybe I was using it wrong, but the spun articles weren't different enough from the original. I might start using it again more seriously though.
      You probably need to add more seed phrases/sentences.
      This helps a great deal in getting unique content.

      HTH

      Glenn
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by marketingjitsu View Post

      I bought the Brad Callen article spinner a while ago but it didn't help me much. Maybe I was using it wrong, but the spun articles weren't different enough from the original. I might start using it again more seriously though.
      It also helps a great deal if you actually spin based on paragraphs, for example...

      The buzz is that article writing is the thing to do if you are marketing anything on the Internet. It is the number one choice for marketers to bring people to their web sites as one can add a link in the bio at the end of the article. However, not everyone writes articles for that reason.
      The current thinking going around is that writing articles is one of the best things you can do when you are marketing your products on the web. By far this is one of the top choices for marketers to drive extra traffic to their websites, because as an author you can include links in your resource box towards the end of the article. You should take notice though that not all marketers will do article writing for this reason.
      Both those paragraphs mean the same exact thing just written differently.. Now if you write that same paragraph 6 times and if your article has 3 more paragraphs and you write 6 alternatives for those then you will end up with some high % on spun articles...

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    I use the one in Article Post Robot. It spins as it submits.

    It works like:

    Original:

    "This is a test of ARP to show how you can spin articles and create a unique one in a matter of minutes."

    ARP Version:

    "This is a test of { { {ARP|Article Post Robot } to { { {demontrate|show| } how { { {easily | } you can { { {spin|re-write } { { {articles|content } { { {and|to } create a { { {new|unique } one in { { {a matter of | } minutes."

    You could get more created and reword phrases and words within phrases to make it more unique.

    Outputs:

    "This is a test of ARP to demontrate how easily you can spin content to create a new one in minutes."

    and

    "This is a test of Article Post Robot to show how easily you can re-write articles and create a new one in a matter of minutes."

    and .... more...

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  • Profile picture of the author SageSound
    Due to forum policies, people who have actually created products that people ask about are forbidden from discussing much about them or the technology around and behind them.

    In other words, if you want to ask a question here about your car, people who build and service cars are forbidden from discussing about them, since they make a living that way, and have built and sold products relating to that subject. IOW, marketing is fine here, as long as you're not promoting YOURSELF here. This is not a forum where experts are encouraged to share their knowledge and expertise if it is how they earn a living. Go figure.

    All I can say is ... you're getting marginally useful information in this thread. I've written two of these tools, and that's all I'm going to say about it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by jonoman1 View Post

      No matter what kind of spinner you use, it will create poor quality content. Most people use them just to put unique content on an article site so it gets indexed by the SEs, but I am not a big fan of spinning.

      This is completely untrue, and this has been posted and proved in this
      thread. Did you even bother to read it before posting misinformation?

      Originally Posted by BigRedNotebook View Post

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      In some cases, the better spinners are far too labor-intensive to make their use viable.
      What's more labour intensive, rewriting an article dozens of times, maybe
      more, or entering the same information for rewriting, say half a dozen
      alternate articles for a good quality spinner, giving virtually unlimited
      quantities?

      I know where I'd rather spend my time and effort.

      Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

      David,

      My exact sentiments! So far, I've not encountered a tool that can replicate the intelligence of a human brain - as far as article spinning is concerned.

      And as you said, I suspect such technologies is still some way off.

      Jag
      How about tools where you need to use your brains in
      order to make them work?

      Your Brains + The Right Tools = Unrivaled Productivity

      Originally Posted by SageSound View Post

      Due to forum policies, people who have actually created products that people ask about are forbidden from discussing much about them or the technology around and behind them.

      8< snipped
      The problem is that this forum could turn into a market free for all. People
      using alternate ID's to post a question, and then use their normal ID's to
      promote their products.

      HTH

      Glenn
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      • Profile picture of the author BigRedNotebook
        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post


        What's more labour intensive, rewriting an article dozens of times, maybe
        more, or entering the same information for rewriting, say half a dozen
        alternate articles for a good quality spinner, giving virtually unlimited
        quantities?

        I know where I'd rather spend my time and effort.

        Glenn
        Glenn,

        If you're planning on writing certain types of articles a dozens and dozens of times, a quality spinner can be a great investment. Obviously, in the scenario you're outlining, spinning seems like a hands-down winner.

        I do appreciate the defense of your industry in the face of some of some of the knee-jerk arguments against spinning in general, but I think you'd agree that there are circumstances where a spinner isn't necessary or optimal for a rewrite.

        Individual needs, the nature of the content itself, necessary volume, the intended use of the content, the writing skills of the individual involved and a series of other variables will play a part in determining whether a spinner is a good idea and whether it's too labor-intensive for a particular situation.

        That was the point of my response. The arguments for and against spinning are invariably based on a set of assumptions that may or may not be true for an individual's set of circumstances.

        This debate always frustrates me. People pick sides. Those with a vested interest in selling writing services default to the notion that "spinners are crap" while those with an interest in selling spinners take the position that they're universally ideal.

        I can understand the motivations behind both positions, but I think anyone who's seriously considered the situation realizes that both are exaggerated a bit.

        That leads to misleading arguments like the one made earlier proclaiming that one should NEVER use one of those god-awful spinners. It also motivates people in your situation to make pro-spinner arguments that assume certain needs, etc., that aren't universal.

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  • Profile picture of the author jonoman1
    No matter what kind of spinner you use, it will create poor quality content. Most people use them just to put unique content on an article site so it gets indexed by the SEs, but I am not a big fan of spinning.
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    • Profile picture of the author SageSound
      Originally Posted by jonoman1 View Post

      No matter what kind of spinner you use, it will create poor quality content.
      That's generally true for the "fully automated" tools.

      But for the others, any native speaker of the language should be able to quickly come up with enough "real" synonomous words and phrases that any combination of them will sound perfectly fine. The problem is, people don't want to take the time needed to do the work.

      -David
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by jonoman1 View Post

      No matter what kind of spinner you use, it will create poor quality content. Most people use them just to put unique content on an article site so it gets indexed by the SEs, but I am not a big fan of spinning.
      Stop giving out bad advice unless you can back up your statements, you are posting something that is your opinion as fact and you are wrong...

      You have no idea what spun articles are good for because

      A. You know nothing about running a business
      B. You do not take the time to read
      C. You give out bad advice and do not even know what you are talking about

      Spun articles have many many useful uses and if you are not using spun content then your are losing on sales. Fact is spun content has went on for years offline and online, this is nothing new.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt Henninger
    I'll give my endorsement for Unique Article Wizard. Its not a "press the spin" button kind of thing and am getting excellent backlink results plus distribution of my articles with it. Absolutely worth the $$ IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cutthroat
    What is the best content "spinner"? I want something that can give me extra content and have it be good quality, not obviously junk that was created by a mindless program. It's extremely obvious when you start reading something that has been artificially created, it reads like gibberish with no "mind" or "voice" behind it.
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  • Profile picture of the author txconx
    I recently researched spinners (thanks to several posts here in WF). Most of them offered a trial and I tried every one that did. I settled on Magic Article Rewriter and I'm impressed.

    My conclusion after all the trials (and errors!) was you get what you put into them. Learn how to use the software effectively and take the time to really manipulate all the possible variations of words, sentences, phrases and paragraphs - and you can generate good content that's unique. And a lot better than some of the crap I've seen put out by overseas writers whose grasp of the English language is questionable.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Andrew Wilkes View Post

      Article spinning == Spam IMO

      Lazy people that are trying to game the system.
      It's called working smart ... Has nothing to do with being lazy and nothing to do with gaming the system.

      Man some people just never learn no matter how much information and proof you slap in front of them. Spinning is nothing new, newspapers, news media outlets, tv stations, and etc ... Has been doing content spinning for years and they still continue today.

      Get real - It's called working smart... How many times have you seen a scene in a movie that you know was pre-recorded and reused ??? How many time have you seen the same content reused in the gossip mags ????

      There is not one industry in this world that does not use some type of content spinning... Even many of those that claim to hate spinners do just what they claim they hate.

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Jag82
      Originally Posted by Andrew Wilkes View Post

      Article spinning == Spam IMO

      Lazy people that are trying to game the system.
      Hi Andrew,

      1. How do you spam with article spinning?

      2. Let me ask you another question.

      Is a gun a tool for killing? Or saving life?

      Do you say water is "bad" because it is the cause of flooding,
      and many people have died from it?

      As you may already know, a lot depends on the "driving force" behind the tool.
      Article spinner is just but a tool. Nothing more.

      You are the one wielding control over it. Input quality alternative words/sentences, you get quality article variations. You put in garbage. You get garbage.

      That's the way it is.

      As James said, it's about working smart. It's about leverage.

      I know I can't possibly re-write hundreds of quality, human-readable unique articles.
      Because that will be wayyyyyyyyyyyy too time consuming.

      But with a good article spinner, I now got that ability to produce articles that will get approved by article directories and sites like Squidoo/Hubpages.

      I now got that leverage I previously didn't had.

      And more leverage = more results.

      I know you have your misgivings. When you can suspend your disbelief for a while, and give article spinning a good go (spending some time to re-write), you will soon find out why many advanced marketers use this method.

      I was a non-believer before. No longer am though. =)

      Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author hanadaddy
      Try this freearticlerewriter.com. It is not human friendly, but generates some rewritings quickly. It's a web, not a desktop software.
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  • Profile picture of the author aniebee
    i've used multiple article spinners, and what i've found is that i need to ask myself what i'm using the spinner for in the first place? Is it to submit unique content, then I want a spinner like Artifact, if it's for extra blog posts, I'll go for one that spins at 30% unique or so, but I've found quite a few useul. When you have multipe sites to manage, there's just no way to hand write or hire out.

    That being said - Glenn, what version is Artifact? I'm wondering if I have the most updated version?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason_V
    Yes, some spinners will give you good quality articles, it depends a lot on what you put into them. Some tools that simply use synonyms are just absolutely ridiculous.

    What people who own spinners, I'm talking the better article spinners, often gloss over or don't even bother to mention is that you're going to have to sit there and bust your butt replacing words and phrases by hand anyway before you can get good spins.

    Don't get me wrong, if you have a seed article and have 1-2 quality re-writes of the same article some of these spinners work well, you'll still have to proofread and tweak some of them.

    The point is, there is no push button solution. You're still going to have to either re-tool the seed article yourself or hire someone to do quality re-writes on the same article and then use those articles for the spinner.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

      Yes, some spinners will give you good quality articles, it depends a lot on what you put into them. Some tools that simply use synonyms are just absolutely ridiculous.

      What people who own spinners, I'm talking the better article spinners, often gloss over or don't even bother to mention is that you're going to have to sit there and bust your butt replacing words and phrases by hand anyway before you can get good spins.

      Don't get me wrong, if you have a seed article and have 1-2 quality re-writes of the same article some of these spinners work well, you'll still have to proofread and tweak some of them.

      The point is, there is no push button solution. You're still going to have to either re-tool the seed article yourself or hire someone to do quality re-writes on the same article and then use those articles for the spinner.
      I fully disagree .... I can take an article in 2 hours have 50 high quality articles that are 70%+ unique and fully readable...

      Proof has been posted of this time and time again. It is the tool you use and how you use it both... I never use no synonyms and all that {|} crap as I use a human controlled tool.. But according to your statement you must have some re-write or you must edit them and this is simply not 100% true..

      Again it depends upon the tool you use and how you use that tool....

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason_V
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        I fully disagree .... I can take an article in 2 hours have 50 high quality articles that are 70%+ unique and fully readable...
        Point proven, it still takes you TWO HOURS to re-tool an article.

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        • Profile picture of the author txconx
          Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

          Point proven, it still takes you TWO HOURS to re-tool an article.

          Jason
          OK - so how long does it take YOU to write 50 original articles? Are you saying you can do it in 2 hours?

          It takes time to do article spinning right - but it's still less time than writing it all from scratch and I'll bet you get articles that are more "original" than if you wrote 50 articles on the same subject without the spinner. There's only so much you can say about something, ya know.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

          Point proven, it still takes you TWO HOURS to re-tool an article.

          Jason
          Nope point not proven ... There is no writer that can write 50 articles in 2 hours... lol I might add that the article would be 800 words+ also ....

          Only thing your proved is how ignorant someone can be when they do not take the time to listen and read from those that do have the knowledge that can help you increase your bottom line by at least 25% ....

          The fact is spun articles and content have been around for years and used in every kind of media you can think of.. Spun articles have many many uses, they are not used to only submit to article directories...

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          • Profile picture of the author Jason_V
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            Nope point not proven ... There is no writer that can write 50 articles in 2 hours... lol I might add that the article would be 800 words+ also ....

            James
            I don't know if you need to go back to school to sharpen your reading comprehension skills or what. Seriously, you really ought to FULLY READ posts before you reply to them.

            My original post, the points you seemed to completely ignore are bolded for emphasis:

            Yes, some spinners will give you good quality articles, it depends a lot on what you put into them. Some tools that simply use synonyms are just absolutely ridiculous.

            What people who own spinners, I'm talking the better article spinners, often gloss over or don't even bother to mention is that you're going to have to sit there and bust your butt replacing words and phrases by hand anyway before you can get good spins.

            Don't get me wrong, if you have a seed article and have 1-2 quality re-writes of the same article some of these spinners work well, you'll still have to proofread and tweak some of them.

            The point is, there is no push button solution. You're still going to have to either re-tool the seed article yourself or hire someone to do quality re-writes on the same article and then use those articles for the spinner.

            Now, PLEASE ENLIGHTEN me how your post that confirms it takes you TWO HOURS refutes the facts that:

            A: You don't have to re-tool the article by hand
            B: It's not a push button solution.

            Edit:

            If you read my post, I'm not close minded or attacking spinners (garbage ones yes.) The better ones have their place. I'm saying that no software can replace the human mind when it comes to content writing, not at this point anyway.

            A smart marketer will take advantage of both humans and software to maximize their business. If someone had multiple re-writes of the same article it would probably take a little less time to re-tool the article and you could probably get higher unique content results to boot.

            Stop trying to make it sound like I have issues with article spinners, other than the garbage ones, I don't. The only gripe that I have was mentioned, many times the fact you have to spend a lot of time and effort to re-tool an article is either omitted or glossed over by spinner creators.

            Is the time spent re-tooling less than if you actually hand re-wrote each article, definitely. Would it cost less than outsourcing re-writes, probably. However, It still takes time, effort, and work. All I was saying is that they aren't push button solutions.

            There doesn't have to be an all or nothing attitude on either side of the debate. You don't have to JUST use an article spinner and you don't have to JUST re-write or outsource re-writes of your articles. There is nothing wrong with re-writing or outsourcing some rewrites and then putting those rewrites into a quality article spinner. This is probably the best way to maximize your ROI.

            P.S. To you and the poster above me, nowhere in my post did I ever claim I could produce that many articles in that amount of time, nice attempt at a straw man, but it doesn't hold water in relation to the true points I was making in my post.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

              What people who own spinners, I'm talking the better article spinners, often gloss over or don't even bother to mention is that you're going to have to sit there and bust your butt replacing words and phrases by hand anyway before you can get good spins.
              You are stating your opinion there as fact and it is not fact, I can fully read.... You need to stop giving bad advice to people when you do not understand nor have you used every single tool on the market ....

              now my point is proven... You do not have to bust your butt and no not everyone lies to people about their spinners....

              James
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              • Profile picture of the author Jason_V
                Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                You are stating your opinion there as fact and it is not fact, I can fully read.... You need to stop giving bad advice to people when you do not understand nor have you used every single tool on the market ....

                now my point is proven... You do not have to bust your butt and no not everyone lies to people about their spinners....

                James
                Again, read what I write, I didn't say lie, my exact words for the third time were: "often gloss over or fail to mention..."

                I guess then if you don't consider two hours of prep work over one single article busting your butt, then there is no getting through to you at all. You're just obviously very tunnel visioned and there's no point even bothering to reason with you.

                That's something for the buying public to determine, whether two hours of prep work for one article is busing butt or not. In my opinion, it is. Which, I am, entitled to my opinion. Yet, again, as my post above mentions, it's still less than having to re-write the article by hand multiple times. It's not a push button solution.

                I'd love to know if in your sales letter you explicitly state that "In a MERE TWO HOURS you can have 50 versions of one article!" I highly doubt it.

                In fact, no it doesn't, let's look at your sales letter:

                "Now imagine doing it all with push-button ease." Push button ease? Really? That sounds cool, you have my attention.

                Then we go down to this: "But what if you could you knock out three, four or five of those bad boys in a just a couple of hours." Well, which is it? To me, push button ease is seconds, maybe minutes at most. Now, it's "three, four, or five of those bad boys in just a couple of hours."

                Really? To me a couple of hours implies up to two. Yet, in this very thread you said it took two hours for one article. So, "five of these bad boys" would take you 10 hours? That's a couple of hours? :confused:

                Maybe I'm just dense in my perception that a couple hours means up to two hours (You know when we talk about that "cute couple" down the lane usually it's in reference to two people who are in a relationship together) and push button ease refers to something that functions in seconds maybe minutes at most.

                So, really, no you still haven't proven anything. Then again, seeing as how you behave, I would never consider buying anything from you, anyway so there's really nothing to prove to me anyhow.

                Again, nice straw man with the "used every single tool on the market" comment. I have not ever once claimed in any of my posts to have used every single spinner on the market.

                You again insist on further attacking me even after I posted that I acknowledge there is a place for good article spinners. That using software and human brains is the best way to maximize your ROI. Yet, you still keep at me. Amazing.
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                • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                  Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

                  rubbish removed.....
                  You are just so wrong on so many points and have no idea what you are even talking about ... It's not worth my time to waste on you. As I have said before I am sooooo tired of the spinner debates. If you want to lose money because you think you know it all, then be my guest... All I said was stop giving out bad advice, you posted your opinion as fact and that is wrong..

                  GoodBye.....

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                  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
                    Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                    You are just so wrong on so many points and have no idea what you are even talking about ... It's not worth my time to waste on you. As I have said before I am sooooo tired of the spinner debates. If you want to lose money because you think you know it all, then be my guest... All I said was stop giving out bad advice, you posted your opinion as fact and that is wrong
                    Pot meet kettle.

                    James you do the same thing, often.
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                • Profile picture of the author txconx
                  Originally Posted by Jason_V View Post

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                  I'd love to know if in your sales letter you explicitly state that "In a MERE TWO HOURS you can have 50 versions of one article!" I highly doubt it.

                  In fact, no it doesn't, let's look at your sales letter:

                  "Now imagine doing it all with push-button ease." Push button ease? Really? That sounds cool, you have my attention.
                  You're surprised that sales pages make exaggerated claims? Really?

                  If you're going to start critiquing sales pages for exaggeration, you'll be taking on the majority of Warriors.

                  Let's see if I can lay it out so most of us can reach an understanding/agreement:

                  1. Spinners - and any other tool -are not a magic solution.
                  2. None of this is easy - it all requires work.
                  3. Software tools save time by allowing us to get more done, faster.
                  4. It's still work.

                  I write. I have an excellent command of the English language, including grammar, punctuation and spelling. I've seen "professional" blogs with errors that make me want to send the authors back to school. I've seen articles people have paid for that look like they were written - and edited - by someone in a hut in a third-world country - or possibly someone in this country who didn't finish grade school. I've been asked to edit articles that were allegedly written by a real person, not a spinner. After looking through the dreck, I decided it simply isn't worth it because they're so awful they require a complete rewrite and few people want to pay hourly for editing, even if they paid 2 cents per word for the article to begin with.

                  You get what you pay for and sometimes what you pay is time, not money. I can write a 100% original article in an hour or two, spend another hour or two with the spin software and come up with dozens of variations of the article that are 75% to 80% "different" from the original article. Anyone who thinks they can make a few changes and push a button is deluding themselves, even if the sales page (gasp!) gives the impression that that's all it takes.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                    Originally Posted by txconx View Post

                    You're surprised that sales pages make exaggerated claims? Really?

                    If you're going to start critiquing sales pages for exaggeration, you'll be taking on the majority of Warriors.

                    Let's see if I can lay it out so most of us can reach an understanding/agreement:

                    1. Spinners - and any other tool -are not a magic solution.
                    2. None of this is easy - it all requires work.
                    3. Software tools save time by allowing us to get more done, faster.
                    4. It's still work.

                    I write. I have an excellent command of the English language, including grammar, punctuation and spelling. I've seen "professional" blogs with errors that make me want to send the authors back to school. I've seen articles people have paid for that look like they were written - and edited - by someone in a hut in a third-world country - or possibly someone in this country who didn't finish grade school. I've been asked to edit articles that were allegedly written by a real person, not a spinner. After looking through the dreck, I decided it simply isn't worth it because they're so awful they require a complete rewrite and few people want to pay hourly for editing, even if they paid 2 cents per word for the article to begin with.

                    You get what you pay for and sometimes what you pay is time, not money. I can write a 100% original article in an hour or two, spend another hour or two with the spin software and come up with dozens of variations of the article that are 75% to 80% "different" from the original article. Anyone who thinks they can make a few changes and push a button is deluding themselves, even if the sales page (gasp!) gives the impression that that's all it takes.
                    Again I really tire from these spinner debates as some people just do not get it ... Just like the one that tries to rip apart a sales page that was written by another warrior.

                    What he failed to see is that I can upload one file and it creates all the spin point keys for me in seconds and then all I do need to do is push one button to create 50 fully readable articles.

                    I thank you for your post though and trying to put some people straight that just do not understand what they write. This really is my final post on this thread because again frankly I tire of the spinner debate.

                    James
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        • Profile picture of the author daria19
          I'm still a fan of Automatic Article Submitter...

          Create your own spins, submit to the top article directories, all for a one-off payment.
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  • Profile picture of the author TommyBoy
    I tried a 7 day trial with senuke (too expensive for me right now) and they have a great article spinner that submits to many directories and blogs, etc. You can pay humanspinner to rewrite each sentence first, and then download the spin format to enter into senuke. The ones that required editorial review like ezinearticles and at least one other (can't remember which) have approved my spun articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Good News Now
    It is nice to have a team of human writers if you can afford it.

    But to manage many sites article rewriters/spinners are the great modern tools.

    I also find it helpful for those for whom English is not the native language (myself in this case) and you can get such good help with wording ideas.

    I have few rewriters/spinners that I use for my many sites and they are really a great help.

    I disagree with those who put down Article rewriters/spinners tools.

    Not everyone is a gifted writer and to have some tools is always beneficial.

    However, you really have to do some extra work in checking your articles after they were rewritten, especially if you plan to submit to some popular article directories.

    The only thing that I did not use is Article Submitters.

    I am still wondering about those tools and would love to learn more from others about their experience with those tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotconcept
    There is a free website called Andy Blacks Article Rewriter. Its not a spinner, its a manual procedure, but i find it works well, letting you rewrite each sentence. I can rewrite an article 400 words in about 10 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author chateauRedunet
    Fascinating thread. Carson, I appreciate your perspective and evaluation.

    While I have not personally used an article-spinner, 1 of the 3 writers I work with has. Some of the spun articles were markedly difficult to read, others were better than I could have re-written the original. Jag82, I see that your post above pretty well sums-up our stance - spinners are a very useful tool that should not be used every time for every purpose. At least not the spinners our writers have worked with.

    I suspect our current spinners are analogous to steam-powered rock drills of the late 1800's. Give them some time to mature and develop and we will eventually see spinner output that will consistently rival human output.

    All the best,
    Chateau R.
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  • Profile picture of the author acedalright
    In all honesty a good spun article will take you 2 hours to complete, but that will produce 500 really good unique articles.

    Yes it's crossing the unique content ethos and making the net worse.

    No, it won't stop people BEATING your serp results.
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  • Profile picture of the author tony1kenobi
    Article spinning is useful if done correctly. The key in my opinion is to make sure that the the spun articles are human readable and make sense.

    So, by this definition anything that only requires you to push a button is not likely to be useful as the output will need work to make it read well.

    I think its much better if you can control what is spun, ie, you provide the alternative text. That way your article will make sense and it will be valuable to the person who reads it, and you save time and effort as the program does the combining for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
      Originally Posted by tony1kenobi View Post

      Article spinning is useful if done correctly. The key in my opinion is to make sure that the the spun articles are human readable and make sense.

      So, by this definition anything that only requires you to push a button is not likely to be useful as the output will need work to make it read well.

      I think its much better if you can control what is spun, ie, you provide the alternative text. That way your article will make sense and it will be valuable to the person who reads it, and you save time and effort as the program does the combining for you.
      sorry, but you're pretty much living in the stone age. This was done at the 'push of a button'.

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