"Warrior Certified" Badge for Products?

by Ouroboros 20 replies
I'm in brainstorming mode...I was researching these 'badges' that social sites give you to make your membership more viral, and also looking at the older images that looked like a certificate or endorsement...

And it occurred to me that a warrior that had never screwed anybody and had a pretty good reputation should be able to display a 'Warrior Acclaimed' or some such graphic on their squeeze page!

Possibly another profit opportunity for Mr. Says?

I for one, would proudly display a 'Warrior Badge' or Image on my site if I had earned it...

Just a thought...

Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
    Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post

    I'm in brainstorming mode...I was researching these 'badges' that social sites give you to make your membership more viral, and also looking at the older images that looked like a certificate or endorsement...

    And it occurred to me that a warrior that had never screwed anybody and had a pretty good reputation should be able to display a 'Warrior Acclaimed' or some such graphic on their squeeze page!

    Possibly another profit opportunity for Mr. Says?

    I for one, would proudly display a 'Warrior Badge' or Image on my site if I had earned it...

    Just a thought...

    Steve
    Who'd be certifying the products or handing out the badges, so to speak?
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  • Profile picture of the author brilliantjv
    .....And it occurred to me that a warrior that had never screwed anybody and had a pretty good reputation...

    A celibate warrior badge .....
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    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      I know ICop does omething like this.

      It has its own board, and the script that is run on the site checks each site/blog before approval I think site owners can only place the badges on their each site/blog after the approval stage. Then ICop searches the site again to make sure it lives up to their standards.

      It used to be $19,95 if I'm not mistaken.

      Seems to me that Allen can do something similar pretty easily if he wanted to add a service like this.

      All he or his staff would have to do is double check the WSOs or threads to make sure there aren't any major complaints or scams running with the people who sign up before they approve the site or product.

      Another thought would be to charge for each individual seal instead of one standard membership fee.

      Just a thought.


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      • Profile picture of the author Ouroboros
        I'm not sure where I'm headed with this as it was just an idea, but say XX number of warriors voluntarily gave their testimonials to a product?

        I don't know what Allen would say about this, and might be more trouble than it is worth, after all, it would be his 'rep' on the line...

        Maybe not as good an idea as I first thought...
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        • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
          Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post

          I'm not sure where I'm headed with this as it was just an idea, but say XX number of warriors voluntarily gave their testimonials to a product?

          I don't know what Allen would say about this, and might be more trouble than it is worth, after all, it would be his 'rep' on the line...

          Maybe not as good an idea as I first thought...
          Agree.

          I don't think Allen would want to do that.

          No need for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I think that if you need a badge to show that you're not a con-man, you need to be in a different business.

    The only "Warrior" seal of approval worth anything is Allens word. Anything else is egocentric nonsense.

    I know this place is a community, but that doesn't mean it has to have merchandise stating that some of its members are considered ethical. That gives all the wrong messages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ouroboros
      Okay Andy,

      I guess you put me in my place, like I said, maybe a dumb idea.

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      • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
        Steve,

        No, its not a dumb idea at all.

        Matter of fact, it would work with the public who do need to have proof like that. Otherwise why would there be a need for any of the badges or seals such as PayPal, Verisign, etc ...?

        It may not be a good idea for this forum or for WSOs, but the general public wants to see some kind of authentication. If it gets branded right, who knows what might happen.


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        • Profile picture of the author Ouroboros
          Thanks Mary...

          After All, it was just a thought...

          And thank you Andy for your candid reply,

          After all, there are so many sites that have either a fake or 'flaky' certification...

          I guess I took it too far suggesting a "Warrior" affiliation.

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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
          Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

          Matter of fact, it would work with the public who do need to have proof like that. Otherwise why would there be a need for any of the badges or seals such as PayPal, Verisign, etc ...?
          Who says they do? I've yet to hear anyone ask about this topic.

          Buying a logo doesn't prove anything, except maybe that people *will* buy anything.
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          • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
            Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

            Who says they do? I've yet to hear anyone ask about this topic.

            Buying a logo doesn't prove anything, except maybe that people *will* buy anything.
            Chris,

            You can go argue with someone else. No one that I know of wrote one word about anyone asking about this topic.

            What's the problem?

            I know by testing different seals and badges to people that aren't IMers or other types of marketers. Been testing for about 3 years.

            It makes an impression, even if it's a false one.

            So get a grip!


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            • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
              Looking at it from the point of view of a consumer who'd never heard of the Warrior forum, if I saw such a badge somewhere, looked up where it came from and found it led to a community with a focus on the most effective ways of getting money out of a buyer, I'd probably be out of there like a shot.

              Displaying such a seal might do something for a marketer's ego, but I wouldn't expect the effect on his or her bottom line to be a positive one.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
                Just for poops and smiles, I wanted to see what a 'warrior badge' might look like...

                Any suggestions for titles? Warrior Member, Warrior Certified,

                Any other ideas for badges?

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                • Profile picture of the author Elmer Hurlstone
                  Another thought comes to mind.

                  Suppose I'm marketing an info product at $37 to a "non Warrior" list and "Sally Customer" sees my "Warrior Approved/Recommended/Certified/Whatever Badge?"

                  Many of these "approval badges" are hyper linked to the issuing authority site. Sally clicks the link or perhaps does a quick search and presto, she's discovering my WSO for the same product.

                  Sure, she likes the idea that she's saving money, but she's also aggravated that some folks are getting a "better deal" than she was offered.

                  My perceived credibility, in her eyes, has gone down a few notches. And while, like Andy, I'm still a nice guy Sally has reservations. She won't see market differences--only money.

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            • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
              Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

              You can go argue with someone else. No one that I know of wrote one word about anyone asking about this topic.

              What's the problem?
              The problem seems to be your getting upset at people posting things that you disagree with. That tends to happen in a discussion forum. Sad that I have to explain this.

              If you want to impress people with worthless logos, that's your choice. Go for it.

              Why don't you attack Andy as well? He said basically the same thing I did, but with more detail.
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              • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
                Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

                The problem seems to be your getting upset at people posting things that you disagree with. That tends to happen in a discussion forum. Sad that I have to explain this.

                If you want to impress people with worthless logos, that's your choice. Go for it.

                Why don't you attack Andy as well? He said basically the same thing I did, but with more detail.
                Chris,

                You're right about one thing ... it is sad lol. Sad that you continue to post comments like these last 2 in this thread.

                I have no problem with people disagreeing with what I say. I disagree with a lot of people.

                No one got upset about anything. Not that I know of anyway.

                I made a comment about badges and seals in general. If you didn't like it fine, but why call me out and ask me things like "Who says they do?" if you didn't want a response back?

                Did you bother to do any kind of testing with them yourself?

                Probably not, but you want to call someone else out.

                For the record ... I quoted your posted and commented to you because you quoted me, and asked me a direct question.

                I most certainly wasn't attaking anyone here. Where did you get that from?

                But then again, you are well known for starting stuff in this forum, otherwise you wouldn't have ben deleted in the older forum.

                Lol hope you stay in here longer than the last trip.


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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Hey,

        If you want to make some badges and have fun, go for it.

        But if you want to do it in the 'Warrior' name, Allen is the only person whose opinion counts.

        If we need a badge to show we're ethical I'd say there are bigger problems than whether we should have badges.

        I'm sure there are people who love being in clubs that would like "I'm a Warrior badge", but warriors are just people who come to this public forum - there are scammers and idiots here as much as anywhere else. The difference here is that they don't often get much air-time because it's obvious most of the time that they're doing it, and once someone has ripped off enough people they usually run away to spend their money and only return later using a different name to try and do it again.

        I've been here quite a long time and although I know that I'm actually a nice guy - no-one else could know that just from forum posts. Many people using different personas for their forum identities that what they're really like. (you can quickly tell when someone joins and uses a crazy username for anonymity).

        There are a lot of good people here and many of them already feel like they're part of something bigger than just a forum, and it's nice when meeting people offline to know them from the forum already - no question about that.

        But when you start talking about creating badges to represent the fact that someone is perceived as ethical - it's sort of like having a certificate to prove you're not crazy - if you needed a certificate to show it, you probably are, or there's reason to question it.

        If Allen wants to put his name to other peoples 'position' and say they're a stand-up business person that's one thing, but anything more than that will turn into an ego-focused game with people complaining that they haven't been given a badge and they have dirt on someone who has.... It's all a distraction from getting on with more positive stuff and making money.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
          Hey,

          If you want to make some badges and have fun, go for it.

          But if you want to do it in the 'Warrior' name, Allen is the only person whose opinion counts.

          If we need a badge to show we're ethical I'd say there are bigger problems than whether we should have badges.

          I'm sure there are people who love being in clubs that would like "I'm a Warrior badge", but warriors are just people who come to this public forum - there are scammers and idiots here as much as anywhere else. The difference here is that they don't often get much air-time because it's obvious most of the time that they're doing it, and once someone has ripped off enough people they usually run away to spend their money and only return later using a different name to try and do it again.

          I've been here quite a long time and although I know that I'm actually a nice guy - no-one else could know that just from forum posts. Many people using different personas for their forum identities that what they're really like. (you can quickly tell when someone joins and uses a crazy username for anonymity).

          There are a lot of good people here and many of them already feel like they're part of something bigger than just a forum, and it's nice when meeting people offline to know them from the forum already - no question about that.

          But when you start talking about creating badges to represent the fact that someone is perceived as ethical - it's sort of like having a certificate to prove you're not crazy - if you needed a certificate to show it, you probably are, or there's reason to question it.

          If Allen wants to put his name to other peoples 'position' and say they're a stand-up business person that's one thing, but anything more than that will turn into an ego-focused game with people complaining that they haven't been given a badge and they have dirt on someone who has.... It's all a distraction from getting on with more positive stuff and making money.
          Thank YOU for saving me from writing this myself!

          Plus, I don't think Allen would risk his Rep for a mere couple dollars.

          I doubt he'd do it for a million bucks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    Badge and Seal programs are pretty much useless when it comes to representing people...

    The iCop program for example... I reported a member and figured out that the iCop program is a one person show and that one person really has no clue about the people sporting the badges.

    BBB is another great example... Firestone Tires is a company with good standing... yet they sold dysfunctional products that killed drivers.

    Selling badges of all sorts is big business because it gives web visitors a false sense of security....

    However, in my market very few people have heard of the "Warriors" and a "Warrior" badge when asking someone who has never heard of the "Warriors" for their money would not work out so well I suspect ;-)

    Now a viking helmet with horns and a warrior badge... I would definitely sport that to the local 4th of July parade though.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

      BBB is another great example... Firestone Tires is a company with good standing... yet they sold dysfunctional products that killed drivers.
      Just because a company messes up doesn't necessarily mean its a bad company. In the case with the BBB, as long as you resolve the problem in a certain matter you will stay in good standing with them, even if you f*ck up at one point.

      I could see why you think the BBB is worthless.. But it shouldn't hurt by putting it up...
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