Sister wants in on IM

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My sister recently discovered Internet Marketing and WF. She knows I'm into these things and she's asking me to oversee her investments. She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).

The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job. I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!

She's my sister and I'd love to develop a few money-making websites for her but I'm simply not an expert and haven't got the time required. I looked through the "Other websites and Services" forum and saw some nice offers (Amazon/Clickbank/Adsense niche sites). Do you guys think that's a good idea?

At present we are stuck at the first step, we don't know what to make a website about!

Any advice will be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author mese5
    Adsense would be nice to get started.
    Find out what niche she is interested in and start blogging.
    Later go for Amazon.
    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

    My sister recently discovered Internet Marketing and WF. She knows I'm into these things and she's asking me to oversee her investments. She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).

    The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job. I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!

    She's my sister and I'd love to develop a few money-making websites for her but I'm simply not an expert and haven't got the time required. I looked through the "Other websites and Services" forum and saw some nice offers (Amazon/Clickbank/Adsense niche sites). Do you guys think that's a good idea?

    At present we are stuck at the first step, we don't know what to make a website about!

    Any advice will be appreciated.
    You really should start off by asking yourself " what knowledge do I have in what field" and "do I really have a strong interest in this field and can I help others in it "

    Thats where you should begin.

    Adsense was something I first Started off with coupled with Cpa offers.

    Soon after, I begin List Building. My first List Building area involved offering an email course based on 'how to take paid surveys'. And 'how to profit from them.'

    This experience was the impetus I needed to take larger and more profitable steps.


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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Hi Craig,

    I would honestly steer clear of purchasing any ready-made entity whatsoever. A couple of big reasons. Firstly, their quality, often despite product reviews, leaves something to be desired. Secondly, purchasing something ready-made negates the need to learn, and learn she must. IM is a career that could very well be defined as "dynamic." The industry forever changes. To remain effective as an IMer, we must change right along with it.

    It sounds like you know your stuff. Problem is - you just lack the time. The time to be truly helpful. But here's the thing: your sister has a very reasonable expectation in regards to income generation. Unlike a lot of new entrants, she doesn't expect overnight riches. This is terrific. And it gives you an opportunity to save her money and help her in the bargain.

    If I were you, and this is just a suggestion, I would consider helping her setup a basic, yet tried-and-tested business model. Something simple enough for you to manage, given your time, easy enough for her so she doesn't feel overwhelmed, and with the potential to show ROI, even minutely, in the relative short-term. Some profit is always required relatively early on. Newcomers basically need first-hand evidence that all of their hard work - and the hard work to come! - can indeed pay off. There is nothing worse than slogging away each day and wondering, "Did I make a big mistake here?"

    I probably don't even need to suggest business models to you, but I've come this far.

    A would start out by asking her these questions:

    1. What are your passions in life?
    2. What are your areas of expertise?
    3. What abilities (writing, creativity, etc.) can you bring to the table?

    And then help her to funnel those answers into a developing a plan of action:

    1. Which markets seem appropriate?
    2. Which, out of those, are good markets?
    3. Which one market would she prefer, based on 1 and 2?

    You can then direct her to investigating further:

    1. Examine the markets.
    2. Examine competitors.
    3. Examine monetization possibilities.

    This then leads to forming 3 things, and in their entirety, your game plan for her:

    1. Business Plan
    2. Marketing Plan
    3. Development Plan

    At that point, and with your help, she's ready to take action. Play to her strengths at all times, remember that growing a list should be a concern from day 1, and keep the site structure and overall operations simple enough so she can manage it all on her own, once you've instructed her.

    Just some initial thoughts. I've helped quite a few family members enter IM successfully and that's the initial approach I used. More to it, of course, but a fairly good springboard for you to consider.

    Cheers - Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    If she has discovered the WF then tell her to start reading. This is a business and if she "Does not have the time" or you do not have the time, then wait until you do have the time.

    And, I always love the posts that start with "My Sister" or "My Friend"

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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    First, have her read Tom's reply, above...

    Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

    My sister recently discovered Internet Marketing and WF. She knows I'm into these things and she's asking me to oversee her investments. She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).
    Those expectations ARE reasonable, but...

    Did she anticipate the level of research, learning, and planning that will be required?

    The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job. I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!
    It sounds to me like she thinks of it as an "investment" rather than a career.

    Surely, with all of your "own shit to deal with", you will have gained enough insight to be able to explain what she would be getting into, and that it's not something that one can throw a few grand at, and expect a positive return.

    I looked through the "Other websites and Services" forum and saw some nice offers (Amazon/Clickbank/Adsense niche sites). Do you guys think that's a good idea?
    A turnkey website can be a good springboard, but that's all.

    They simply aren't going to show a return on investment without a lot of additional effort applied, and it doesn't sound like either of you have the time for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
    Everything I might have said has been said well by others.

    Except... wtf?

    If she doesn't have time to start a business... and you don't have time to run a business for her... then she should find something else to invest her $2k into.

    It sounds like she wants something hands off, like a nice stock. I would steer her in that direction.

    Seriously.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      Tell your sister to payapl me the money, I'll invest her money for her.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Are you ready to never speak to your sister again?

    Are you prepared for uncomfortable family dinners...talking behind your back...snide remarks?

    Because that is what WILL happen if you lose this money.

    $2000 is not much and won't last long.

    I would absolutely steer clear of having anything to do with family and business...or good friends and business. Been there, done that. Bad times.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Are you ready to never speak to your sister again?

      Are you prepared for uncomfortable family dinners...talking behind your back...snide remarks?

      Because that is what WILL happen if you lose this money.

      $2000 is not much and won't last long.

      I would absolutely steer clear of having anything to do with family and business...or good friends and business. Been there, done that. Bad times.
      Actually $2000 can get you some nice solo ad runs, if you have a nice funnel in place.

      Its his sisters fault since she is taking the risk of investing money in something that may or may not work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I would absolutely steer clear of having anything to do with family and business...or good friends and business. Been there, done that. Bad times.
    I second that emotion!!

    And, I always love the posts that start with "My Sister" or "My Friend"
    I would love to hear a psychologist's analysis of that.
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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
    Since she already knows what to expect from her investment, you should be alright. I would think that with $2000 you would have a better chance of succeeding than most people anyways. It seems like having the time to invest in articles and website design is the biggest obstacle here. All you really need is a good website designer and to keep buying content on a regular basis though. Just remember that when they say it can take a year to see results, they aren't kidding. Having the patience to stick with it and keep adding content is what makes all the difference. Even when you are struggling to make a $1 a day, stick with it
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by NeedBucksNow View Post

      Since she already knows what to expect from her investment, you should be alright.
      Ummm, actually NO, she does not....



      Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

      She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).

      The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job.

      I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!

      She's my sister and I'd love to develop a few money-making websites for her but I'm simply not an expert and haven't got the time required.
      I'll make it short and sweet...
      Your sister is throwing her money down the drain and You are wasting your time....

      I don't think you gave your sister a true picture of what IM is, how it works and how high the failure rate is....
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    My advice would be to sit down with your sister and explain to her exactly what you do with internet marketing to make money from it.

    Unfortunately, many newbies (and your sister would definitely be one, from the way you've described her) think that they can just throw money at some "turnkey" system which will then spit money out at them like some broken ATM machine!

    Of course I'm exaggerating a little here, but many people new to internet marketing think it is some kind of magical, near-passive system that is effortless and very easy to implement.

    You and I know that this simply isn't true. Unless you want to basically take on another full time "job" to make your sister money in internet marketing, I'd stay away from assuming this responsibility.

    You can certainly help and show her how to make money with internet marketing, but I wouldn't take on the full responsibility of making her money while she just sits back and does nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craigcmatthew
    Thanks for all the replies guys. This is like getting a 3rd,4th,5th opinion on our little predicament.
    I'll email this thread to her and we'll see how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Why isn't your sister here asking these questions herself? Sounds like she just wants to throw money at something and hopefully one day it turns a profit without her getting too involved. I would say prepare to lose the $2,000.
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  • Profile picture of the author kk075
    Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

    Any advice will be appreciated.
    Here's the best advice you'll hear on this forum- take that two grand and go on a nice vacation. Because if your sister can't find the time to look at online marketing as an actual business, then there is absolutely no possible way for her to be successful at it. And since you're here posting on her behalf, it makes it an even easier decision.

    So yeah. Take a nice cruise or go spend a week at the beach.
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    • I think before investing $2000, She should invest 2000 minutes to know what is her interest and how can she monetize it. She should first LEARN and then should remove the ''L''

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  • Profile picture of the author megamind22
    Hi Craig,

    Its a good decision tricky but doable if you follow the right plan cause theres a lot to take in and she might get overwhelmed with information overload if she doesnt have a good and proven program that works.

    But you must again try and explain to her that this journey is not a walk in the park. It takes a lot of work, dedication and patience to make it in the IM world.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by megamind22 View Post

      Hi Craig,

      Its a good decision tricky but doable if you follow the right plan cause theres a lot to take in and she might get overwhelmed with information overload if she doesnt have a good and proven program that works.

      But you must again try and explain to her that this journey is not a walk in the park. It takes a lot of work, dedication and patience to make it in the IM world.
      "A proven program that works"??

      Have you found one? That works 100% of the time? I haven't.

      What do you know of the OP's skill set?

      And the worst thing in this thread is y'all are thinking about this as a BUSINESS decision.

      Have any of you ever brought family or friends into a financial undertaking?

      And had it go bad?

      Odds are the OP is going to lose that money. Let's get real.

      No offense to anyone. Most projects lose money. Even those started by highly experienced and knowledgeable people. I mean, let's acknowledge that reality right now.

      $2000 may SEEM like a lot of money.

      The rush of a little short term confidence, possibly fueled by said dollop of money, may be coursing through someone's veins.

      But this is NOT a business decision.

      You newbies don't know and don't care because it's not YOUR family and your money and your life. Yeah, that's harsh but that's the truth. You haven't been through this kind of thing and think it's all sunshine and roses, and if you lose, well, who cares, no big deal.

      It's not "no big deal" if you lose with friends or family. Not even if you just break even.

      And again, people, let's face reality square on here and admit most of you have never made ANY money online. Zero.

      So what magic change do you think is going to result from having someone's $2000 at your disposal?

      All that will be is a short term, VERY short term, buffer giving you the feeling you're "doing something" as you expend those meager resources.

      And then what.

      The uncomfortable calls.

      The questions.

      "How's my money doing today?"

      Again, if any of you had been in this situation, who are all enthusiastically shouting, "Go Team Go!"...you would be saying something very different.

      Money to burn is NOT the solution.

      if you can't make money with $0, you probably aren't going to magically start being able to make money with $2000.

      I once went to work for a friend who begged me to take over a business he had just bought.

      He had just gotten a new, good job and couldn't do both.

      After awhile, the business was doing well but my friend wasn't fitting in at work.

      He quit, came to the business, and you couldn't have two bosses there.

      Unfortunately, we both belonged to some of the same organizations around town. A lot of the same people knew and respected us both.

      You can't have two bosses.

      And the fallout from this wrecked our friendship, and split the people in the organizations. It hurt both of us badly. I will never mix friends or family and financial dealings again.

      OP, you are thinking only about the short term right now, and if things go well. I understand you want to "do something" and it does appear as if an opportunity is in front of you.

      If you lose this money, or barely break even after a year, all you will have is a damaged family relationship. And it won't be just with your sister. It'll be with anyone who sides with your sister's opinion.

      Do you really want to have to deal with all that?

      Is it worth risking your family relationships?

      For $2000?

      The mindless enthusiasm of the newbies in this thread comes from the fact that THEY are desperate for money, and would do anything to be in your situation. They don't care about you. They don't care about your family and your relationships.

      Even if your sister is fully prepared to lose this $2000, never see it again, and even if she flat-out tells you, "I don't care if you lose it," trust me, there will be unpleasant residual effects.

      You will be tarred as "the brother who lost all her money" by SOMEONE in your family. And probably more than just one "someone."

      Remember, you (and I, and everyone else) have no control over how other people react to things. News. Information. And everyone to whom it is whispered, "He lost her $2000 investment" is going to have a reaction. You won't be there to defend yourself.

      "But I might make a profit!"

      Yeah, right.

      Let me tell you: if you really want to take her investment, wait until you have an ALREADY PROFITABLE operation going on. THEN invest her money because you know you can make money.

      Right know you don't know a darn thing.

      I can't say Don't Do It any more strongly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Underground
        Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

        "A proven program that works"??

        Have you found one? That works 100% of the time? I haven't.

        What do you know of the OP's skill set?

        And the worst thing in this thread is y'all are thinking about this as a BUSINESS decision.

        Have any of you ever brought family or friends into a financial undertaking?

        And had it go bad?

        Odds are the OP is going to lose that money. Let's get real.

        No offense to anyone. Most projects lose money. Even those started by highly experienced and knowledgeable people. I mean, let's acknowledge that reality right now.

        $2000 may SEEM like a lot of money.

        The rush of a little short term confidence, possibly fueled by said dollop of money, may be coursing through someone's veins.

        But this is NOT a business decision.

        You newbies don't know and don't care because it's not YOUR family and your money and your life. Yeah, that's harsh but that's the truth. You haven't been through this kind of thing and think it's all sunshine and roses, and if you lose, well, who cares, no big deal.

        It's not "no big deal" if you lose with friends or family. Not even if you just break even.

        And again, people, let's face reality square on here and admit most of you have never made ANY money online. Zero.

        So what magic change do you think is going to result from having someone's $2000 at your disposal?

        All that will be is a short term, VERY short term, buffer giving you the feeling you're "doing something" as you expend those meager resources.

        And then what.

        The uncomfortable calls.

        The questions.

        "How's my money doing today?"

        Again, if any of you had been in this situation, who are all enthusiastically shouting, "Go Team Go!"...you would be saying something very different.

        Money to burn is NOT the solution.

        if you can't make money with $0, you probably aren't going to magically start being able to make money with $2000.

        I once went to work for a friend who begged me to take over a business he had just bought.

        He had just gotten a new, good job and couldn't do both.

        After awhile, the business was doing well but my friend wasn't fitting in at work.

        He quit, came to the business, and you couldn't have two bosses there.

        Unfortunately, we both belonged to some of the same organizations around town. A lot of the same people knew and respected us both.

        You can't have two bosses.

        And the fallout from this wrecked our friendship, and split the people in the organizations. It hurt both of us badly. I will never mix friends or family and financial dealings again.

        OP, you are thinking only about the short term right now, and if things go well. I understand you want to "do something" and it does appear as if an opportunity is in front of you.

        If you lose this money, or barely break even after a year, all you will have is a damaged family relationship. And it won't be just with your sister. It'll be with anyone who sides with your sister's opinion.

        Do you really want to have to deal with all that?

        Is it worth risking your family relationships?

        For $2000?

        The mindless enthusiasm of the newbies in this thread comes from the fact that THEY are desperate for money, and would do anything to be in your situation. They don't care about you. They don't care about your family and your relationships.

        Even if your sister is fully prepared to lose this $2000, never see it again, and even if she flat-out tells you, "I don't care if you lose it," trust me, there will be unpleasant residual effects.

        You will be tarred as "the brother who lost all her money" by SOMEONE in your family. And probably more than just one "someone."

        Remember, you (and I, and everyone else) have no control over how other people react to things. News. Information. And everyone to whom it is whispered, "He lost her $2000 investment" is going to have a reaction. You won't be there to defend yourself.

        "But I might make a profit!"

        Yeah, right.

        Let me tell you: if you really want to take her investment, wait until you have an ALREADY PROFITABLE operation going on. THEN invest her money because you know you can make money.

        Right know you don't know a darn thing.

        I can't say Don't Do It any more strongly.

        This is a great post. I'd forgotten about the family thing. OP you will need to be able to show you can make a profit with something.

        The solution I recommended might do that or might not, depending on the skills you acquire in marketing and promotion and how focused and determined you are and how much you believe in the product and how it can help people, as that will make you stick with it until you start making progress.

        And although there are short-cuts, there's still a learning curve and trial and error even with the best leg-ups.

        Last September, I had 2500 to invest on a solid model. But made mistakes on themes, softwares and other things.

        Still right now, I recently got a another few grand together to finish the project. And it has taken me 5 wasted weeks trying to find the right people, skills, software, tools, etc again.

        My problem is I now have 5-6 or 6 very solid models, and focusing on just 1 is difficult. What if I put everything into that and it doesn't come off, and launching my other service would have been better? Digital TV Channel. Magazine. 9 different websites connected to one network. Marketing research dashboard. Video production. Marketing and research services.

        I've worked on these variously to varying degrees of readiness and found out just how hard it is to take great ideas and turn them into reality. I now need to raise about 20k in the next month or so to invest getting everything set up. And then a lot more investment after that hiring teams of people to run it because it's on a big scale. But it's the business I wanted to build, that I believe in, that will set me up long term, that can scale up infinitely, and that is completely proven, so I'm willing to go through what it takes to reach that level. Major sacrifice, hardwork, facing fears, learning new things.


        I've decided to stick with the Digital TV channel and video production services, but keep getting tempted to try to finish the Marketing Research dashboard so if one fails to get the response I want, the other might. I have to resist that and focus.

        The point is there is so much unforeseen stuff involved in bring even 1 good idea to a successful situation. Far more money than you think is needed. Potentially far more experiences of getting 90% through a project and realizing you can't proceed and have wasted months writing marketing material and building websites, consulting with people who turn out to waste your time, trying stuff that doesn't work. A lot of distraction.


        Don't get into that. Find something proven. But, prove it yourself first or at least make sure you sister understands that the income claims made but people in the IM world ''make 90-200 a day'' are just outright lies, like Jason said, most of these people haven't made a dollar, and that the reality is it is going to be very difficult and many things could go wrong and see might never see a return on that money at all.

        But, going forward, please do pick a model like the one I gave, that's from professional and transparent people and think it through properly.


        You might be the 1 in a 1000 that finds that one thing and makes a success of things right out of the gate if you do that and don't go chasing every new hyped up opportunity like gamblers do.


        In essence, it's going to come down to picking one think, and sticking with that. What I said above about my own business may have contradicted that. But I just set my stall out years ago, that I wasn't going to listen to garbage sales presentations or buy IM courses.


        I knew what I wanted, as strong media brand, that could have many different revenue streams under that one umbrella brand, that was professional, systemized, earned a lot of money, and haven't deviated since.

        So if you can quickly find the one thing that is solid and is right for you, and are willing to stick at that till you success, something that is already proven, you'll have a shot at success, even if the 2000 is spent on learning what didn't work and teaches you what will, because you'll still be on the right track.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZanyZebra
    Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

    My sister recently discovered Internet Marketing and WF. She knows I'm into these things and she's asking me to oversee her investments. She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).

    The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job. I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!

    She's my sister and I'd love to develop a few money-making websites for her but I'm simply not an expert and haven't got the time required. I looked through the "Other websites and Services" forum and saw some nice offers (Amazon/Clickbank/Adsense niche sites). Do you guys think that's a good idea?

    At present we are stuck at the first step, we don't know what to make a website about!

    Any advice will be appreciated.
    The answer is easy:

    Earn over $2M a week, working just one hour a day, from a beautiful beach, using only your smartphone.

    There are lots of gurus in IM who can sell you the course. It's worth every cent. Honest.

    Seriously, what other industry would anyone in their right mind think that they could make significant money, but they don't have any expertise and they don't have the time to invest in it either?

    Oh, don't get me wrong. She is not to blame (altogether). It's astonishing the number of people who think that IM can deny real economic gravity and somehow magic up a huge income without having to break a sweat.

    Of course it's the IM cowboys who are to blame for this. We are, relatively, in the early days of IM and it still resembles the wild west, complete with scammers, cheats and snake-oil salesmen (selling courses and material that promise the earth and deliver nothing).

    Your sister needs to know the truth. There is no IM magic wand. It takes time, it takes money, it takes effort, it (often) takes (many) failures before any real success is experienced. It took me well over a decade of trying many different online business models before i finally discovered the one that has given me everything i wanted.

    If you love your sister then give her a wake up call and follow it up with a cold shower of reality. Only then will she be in a state to see what she really needs to do.

    Good luck to her, and you, with whatever ventures you both pursue.
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      Originally Posted by ZanyZebra View Post

      The answer is easy:

      Earn over $2M a week, working just one hour a day, from a beautiful beach, using only your smartphone.

      There are lots of gurus in IM who can sell you the course. It's worth every cent. Honest.

      Seriously, what other industry would anyone in their right mind think that they could make significant money, but they don't have any expertise and they don't have the time to invest in it either?

      Oh, don't get me wrong. She is not to blame (altogether). It's astonishing the number of people who think that IM can deny real economic gravity and somehow magic up a huge income without having to break a sweat.

      Of course it's the IM cowboys who are to blame for this. We are, relatively, in the early days of IM and it still resembles the wild west, complete with scammers, cheats and snake-oil salesmen (selling courses and material that promise the earth and deliver nothing).

      Your sister needs to know the truth. There is no IM magic wand. It takes time, it takes money, it takes effort, it (often) takes (many) failures before any real success is experienced. It took me well over a decade of trying many different online business models before i finally discovered the one that has given me everything i wanted.

      If you love your sister then give her a wake up call and follow it up with a cold shower of reality. Only then will she be in a state to see what she really needs to do.

      Good luck to her, and you, with whatever ventures you both pursue.
      True words are spoken here. I came back to this thread i've read a couple of days ago in order to find this perfect quote. Thanks @ZanyZebra
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground
    Using the term 'IM', indicates that 2000 will be wasted in a matter of months, if not days if you fork out right away on the next over-hyped, over-priced guru product.


    The 'IM' industry is simply filled with gullible people who fell for scams by shameless conmen and then never snapped out it, instead choose to push harder on the hamster wheel hoping they'll eventually make it and resorting to selling junk get rich quick schemes to other gullible people.


    The one's who are successful move way beyond the 'IM' tag.

    You need to launch a business, not chuck money at some 'make money online' course.

    Particularlly not bottom feeding methods like adsense, fiverr gigs or affiliate marketing.

    And that is going to take a lot more time, commitment and energy than you think.

    Having said that, I did see something recently that was really impressive and quite innovative. This is similar to buying a ready made business in the real world.

    This is not an affiliate link. It will just give a you a decent product with a ready made funnel to start selling.

    DLP - Zaxaa [WL edit]

    Mix this with a good facebook advertising course, and the competition type methods from Contest Domination to sell it and learn how to JV other people's lists to drive targeted traffic to your product, and you'll have a short cut. You'll skip years of wading through shocking, insane nonsense, ''great'' ideas and just outright scams that will waste years of your life and lots of money. You can avoid that all together, but getting the rights to a proven product, but even a product that is proven and where you are given proper figured about actual conversion rates rather than 5 figure a week income claims is seriously hard. But that product above is solid.

    You'll be in the software selling space, rather than the 'IM' scam space, and will have a proper, decent product you can get sell, and a good template on how to build on that model and sell other software.


    I really hope you give this area real focus. Finding a profitable long term model in this space, is like finding a needle in a haystack. In 5 years, this is one of the 1-2% of models that are actually solid and long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You should start her off on half .com, fiverr, or ebay. Let her build up her confidence and knowledge with easy sales, before she takes on the difficult task of building and running a successful website. And you never know... she might actually love half .com, fiverr, or ebay - and stick with it for the long haul. Tell her to try these first. Easy money.
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    • Profile picture of the author jazzd1
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You should start her off on half .com, fiverr, or ebay. Let her build up her confidence and knowledge with easy sales, before she takes on the difficult task of building and running a successful website. And you never know... she might actually love half .com, fiverr, or ebay - and stick with it for the long haul. Tell her to try these first. Easy money.


      Hey, Magwood is on to something. I think she should try her hand with selling something online via ebay, fiverr or even craigslist..She would be more in control with selling her own stuff without you being much involved..Talk to her, find out her skill set or what things she have to sell and start her off by going that route because if you try to start her off with a site or blog, she would have to be dedicated and definitely have to put the time in and if she don't, kiss that money and your time goodbye..
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  • Profile picture of the author Craigcmatthew
    Thanks again guys for all the replies. I did email this thread to my sister and she decided to spend her weekends learning the basics (she did get a bit discouraged but agreed that learning is the only way to begin). I'll send her a few good ebooks I know of and have her register an account at WF asap (maybe even reply to this thread).

    I feel like I should clear a few things. I'm not a complete newbie but I'm not an expert either. I make just about $400-$500/month working close to 8 hours a day. I know the basics of SEO reasonably well (all white-hat). I'm at that stage where I don't bother with WSO's but still read through them wondering if it could work. I have about 4-5 projects in the pipeline as we know holiday season is upon us and that's a good time for affiliate marketers. Those keep me really busy.

    The thing with my sister though is that she really hates her job with a passion! She makes close to $1500 a month at her current job as a call center manager but it's not something she wants to keep doing. She says "work from home" income would be great for her when she starts a family in a couple of years. She is bright, persistent, not very tech savvy (she's a girl ffs!), willing to work hard. It's hard for me tell her a straight-faced "NO!" when she says these things to me. We all the know the potential IM has for someone like her.

    Now the problem I have is that I simply don't enough to guide her. I'm 24 and I've only just scratched the surface with my $400 monthly. A lot of what she's asking me to do is uncharted territory. I've never hired an IM coach or bought MFA sites. The only things I invest on are writers, backlinks, research tools.

    What we've decided is to get her a new laptop and an internet connection to start at the basics. I told her it'll be about a year before she gets an intuitive understanding of IM related things (to sort the BS, so to speak). She could start by developing a site she's passionate about and we could think about monetization later.

    It's still quite messy and I haven't been able to get any work for the past five days. I thank you guys again for the advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmarc
      Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

      She could start by developing a site she's passionate about and we could think about monetization later
      I think you've found your solution.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Gordon
      Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

      ...not very tech savvy (she's a girl ffs!)
      There's your problem.

      Everybody knows girls are not capable of IM.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
        Originally Posted by Jack Gordon View Post

        There's your problem.

        Everybody knows girls are not capable of IM.
        Boobs sell.
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        • Profile picture of the author Craigcmatthew
          Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

          Boobs sell.
          I don't know what your problem is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Underground
      Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

      Thanks again guys for all the replies. I did email this thread to my sister and she decided to spend her weekends learning the basics (she did get a bit discouraged but agreed that learning is the only way to begin). I'll send her a few good ebooks I know of and have her register an account at WF asap (maybe even reply to this thread).

      I feel like I should clear a few things. I'm not a complete newbie but I'm not an expert either. I make just about $400-$500/month working close to 8 hours a day. I know the basics of SEO reasonably well (all white-hat). I'm at that stage where I don't bother with WSO's but still read through them wondering if it could work. I have about 4-5 projects in the pipeline as we know holiday season is upon us and that's a good time for affiliate marketers. Those keep me really busy.

      The thing with my sister though is that she really hates her job with a passion! She makes close to $1500 a month at her current job as a call center manager but it's not something she wants to keep doing. She says "work from home" income would be great for her when she starts a family in a couple of years. She is bright, persistent, not very tech savvy (she's a girl ffs!), willing to work hard. It's hard for me tell her a straight-faced "NO!" when she says these things to me. We all the know the potential IM has for someone like her.

      Now the problem I have is that I simply don't enough to guide her. I'm 24 and I've only just scratched the surface with my $400 monthly. A lot of what she's asking me to do is uncharted territory. I've never hired an IM coach or bought MFA sites. The only things I invest on are writers, backlinks, research tools.

      What we've decided is to get her a new laptop and an internet connection to start at the basics. I told her it'll be about a year before she gets an intuitive understanding of IM related things (to sort the BS, so to speak). She could start by developing a site she's passionate about and we could think about monetization later.

      It's still quite messy and I haven't been able to get any work for the past five days. I thank you guys again for the advice.


      Please forget the idea of 'spending a year learning IM'. And please make sure you pay close attention to this post.

      Start a site now and work on it for a year, rather than get into 'learning IM'.

      Create an asset right from the start and put all your effort into that.

      If you commit to building a great website and learn all the skills needed to make it successful, you can really be somewhere financially stable in that time frame.

      It's the best use of your time in Online Marketing. You should read the book Fast Track Millionaire. He built a lead generation site for limosine companies and made millions.


      You have to pick something proven from the start. I'll blew thousands on poor themes and websites that didn't cut it. I could have just gone to the following site and picked up virtually fully functional websites in nearly every proven area you can think.

      Dating, Social, Content authority sites, job sites, property sites, whatever you want to get into.


      Go here and check out the different sites: Download 2700+ PHP Scripts - PHP Code | CodeCanyon

      Here's one I just found, that's an RSS site, and will generate niche specific content automatically. RSS Auto Pilot - One Click Site Builder - PHP Scripts | CodeCanyon


      Have your sister read Jason's beginner business guide on his blog. Those are the steps needed, but many never even figure them out. Pick the area you think is the best fit and hopefully have a real interest and passion in.

      Then get started. And learn how to build your own thing as you go, sharpen and refine you're skills, better grow your site.


      At least you will have focus and will be building a real asset instead of being adrift in a endless sea of low balling IM schemes like most people, trying to learn something generic like 'Internet Marketing'.

      She has the right idea building a site. Following Jason's steps and then making the correct decision on what area to get into, you can get something set up and ready to start growing within the next week or so.

      Then you can learn and invest in the things you need to make it grow. That absolute best thing you could do with your sisters investment is getting very clear on the right thing to get into and committing to that until you make a success of it, no matter how long it takes, or what barriers stand in the way.


      When you've done your research, and you know with certainty that if you had 'such and such website up' just as you wanted it with the right number of users and the best ways to monetize, that it will make money because there is a big market there, then you should start investing money.

      With Jason's course, and doing your research on Codecanyon, so you know all your options, and doing some competition analysis in your specific area of niche to know there is a gap in the market and demand there, you really do have a great chance of success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

      Thanks again guys for all the replies. I did email this thread to my sister and she decided to spend her weekends learning the basics (she did get a bit discouraged but agreed that learning is the only way to begin). I'll send her a few good ebooks I know of and have her register an account at WF asap (maybe even reply to this thread).

      I feel like I should clear a few things. I'm not a complete newbie but I'm not an expert either. I make just about $400-$500/month working close to 8 hours a day. I know the basics of SEO reasonably well (all white-hat). I'm at that stage where I don't bother with WSO's but still read through them wondering if it could work. I have about 4-5 projects in the pipeline as we know holiday season is upon us and that's a good time for affiliate marketers. Those keep me really busy.

      The thing with my sister though is that she really hates her job with a passion! She makes close to $1500 a month at her current job as a call center manager but it's not something she wants to keep doing. She says "work from home" income would be great for her when she starts a family in a couple of years. She is bright, persistent, not very tech savvy (she's a girl ffs!), willing to work hard. It's hard for me tell her a straight-faced "NO!" when she says these things to me. We all the know the potential IM has for someone like her.

      Now the problem I have is that I simply don't enough to guide her. I'm 24 and I've only just scratched the surface with my $400 monthly. A lot of what she's asking me to do is uncharted territory. I've never hired an IM coach or bought MFA sites. The only things I invest on are writers, backlinks, research tools.

      What we've decided is to get her a new laptop and an internet connection to start at the basics. I told her it'll be about a year before she gets an intuitive understanding of IM related things (to sort the BS, so to speak). She could start by developing a site she's passionate about and we could think about monetization later.

      It's still quite messy and I haven't been able to get any work for the past five days. I thank you guys again for the advice.
      Despite the (inevitable) flood of criticism received by your thread, the extent of which surprises even me, used to witnessing outpourings of "helpful" reality checks given to newcomers, your plan at this stage leaves little opportunity for further realistic criticism, since I think the genuinely helpful warnings have likely refined the approach you intend to take from here on out. Bringing family and friends into the business is indeed rife with pitfalls; concerted effort from your sister will indeed be fundamental to any success she might achieve; given your experience, any knowledge you impart to your sister will indeed require her to supplement it with further learning. When I look at the situation, though, and especially when I compare it to the rather lazy, misinformed, directionless, ill-conceived and lackluster plans and requests for guidance from some other newcomers, I see a distinct difference here. A distinct likelihood of your sister taking the right approach and, hand in hand with that, doing well in the bargain.

      Parting advice, then. In two decades I've helped a handful of family members enter the business. The family know what I do and see the results of what I do. On one occasion I broached the subject and offered my assistance, since I felt it would be a great synergy for her real-world business (and it proved to be), but every other instance has been along the lines of a rather meek request: "Do you think I can get in on the action? Any chance you can get me started?" When I was younger I used to inwardly groan. Part of me felt insulted, since a lot of what I do can literally not be taught, imagination and creativity and certain abilities and all of their applications within the business were assigned to me from birth, and some areas that can be taught took me years of effort, sweat, late nights, working weekends, and expenditure to learn, and just giving them away or expecting a complete newcomer to even have the capacity to easily "get in on the action" with them was a ludicrous proposition to me, and quite an annoying one, too, since I felt it somewhat belittled what I did (it must be easy, after all, if a newbie can jump in, "get in on the action."). Another part was flattered, but not sufficiently flattered to furnish help. Back then I had the same kind of sardonic answer that Stephen King used to give when asked where he gets his ideas. Stevie would say (paraphrasing), "237 Main Street, Bangor. And when I buy two, I get the third for half price." My answer wasn't nearly as witty: (Depending on their profession) "As long as you teach me how to perform a triple heart bypass."

      Then I grew up. And if you're still young, lucky swine you, let me give you some insight into the state of growing up: time alone has no impact; it's all about the elements that form the patchwork of time. You have children. You lose loved ones. You go through hard times. You learn to see dangers glittering on the horizon. These and a million and four other elements, these are the medals you receive that gravitate you into the ranks of the grownup. So, as a grownup, and getting requests for help, I began to see them in a different light and the sardonic pseudo-wit was all gone. I looked into faces and sometimes I would see casual, indifferent pleas to help, the kind I might give to my daughter when asking if she could show me how to kill a zombie in some video game, but sometimes, within those eyes, I'd see something that made me stop: need. And when I saw it, help was given.

      I best get to the point of this laborious ramble. Some people need in. Need to get in on the action. Not everyone can get in - I'm a firm believer that IM is not for everyone, just like performing triple heart bypasses - but where there is even a glimmer of a chance, I would never turn down family, even at the cost of me screwing up and losing whatever love they might have had for me. So far I have a clean track record. But even if I didn't, it wouldn't stop me. I enjoy a good life from IM, and though not everyone is capable or even willing to put in the work for such a life, when I see "need," almost a look of drowning in the eyes, I'm reminded that I'm no longer the younger Tom. Reminded and quite appalled that his reaction would be anything short of this: "Tell you what. I don't know if I can help you. IM isn't for everyone. But I can try, and if you're willing to try harder than anything you've tried before, maybe both of our efforts will amount to something. Here's my email."

      Craig. Do what you can for your sister. To hell with the risks. Just let her know that success is a mountain she needs to climb.

      And it's a solitary climb.

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  • Profile picture of the author nocturnal911
    Everything takes work, even without investing $2k, she could get into IM if she put some efforts. Ask her to start her own blog and write something she is passionate about and set her a goal like 2 articles per day.

    If the articles are really good, they will rank really good in Google and can be monetized later.

    IM is not like you invest money and you get returns on it. I had days where i lost lots of $$$$$ .So, to minimize the risk, setting up a blog would be a better idea IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    Threads like this always make me chuckle.
    1. Someone asks a question: In this case, should my sister get into IM.
    2. Every single person here who actually knows something about running an online business gives him pretty much the same answer. In this case: Without time, hard work, and knowledge your sister is almost certain to fail.
    3. The OP seems not to hear this wise advice and concludes what he would have concluded without even answering the question. In this case: My sister is buying a new computer!

    What I find most humorous about this particular case is that the OP claims to be working 8 hours/day for only $500/month and his sister still wants to jump in. At 40/hours a week that only amounts to a little over $3/hour -- far less than a minimum wage job and three times less than what his sister makes right now. I get that his sister hates her job so there's more to this than just money... But still...
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

      Threads like this always make me chuckle.
      1. Someone asks a question: In this case, should my sister get into IM.
      2. Every single person here who actually knows something about running an online business gives him pretty much the same answer. In this case: Without time, hard work, and knowledge your sister is almost certain to fail.
      3. The OP seems not to hear this wise advice and concludes what he would have concluded without even answering the question. In this case: My sister is buying a new computer!

      What I find most humorous about this particular case is that the OP claims to be working 8 hours/day for only $500/month and his sister still wants to jump in. At 40/hours a week that only amounts to a little over $3/hour -- far less than a minimum wage job and three times less than what his sister makes right now. I get that his sister hates her job so there's more to this than just money... But still...
      There is hard work, and then there is futile work.

      Think about that for a moment....
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    • Profile picture of the author Craigcmatthew
      Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

      Threads like this always make me chuckle.
      1. Someone asks a question: In this case, should my sister get into IM.
      2. Every single person here who actually knows something about running an online business gives him pretty much the same answer. In this case: Without time, hard work, and knowledge your sister is almost certain to fail.
      3. The OP seems not to hear this wise advice and concludes what he would have concluded without even answering the question. In this case: My sister is buying a new computer!

      What I find most humorous about this particular case is that the OP claims to be working 8 hours/day for only $500/month and his sister still wants to jump in. At 40/hours a week that only amounts to a little over $3/hour -- far less than a minimum wage job and three times less than what his sister makes right now. I get that his sister hates her job so there's more to this than just money... But still...
      I've received a lot of good advice on this thread and would request mods to close it if possible as the discussion has served it's purpose.

      @kilgore, The reason why she's getting a new laptop + internet connection is to keep everything separate. If she registers new accounts on the same IP as mine then it will probably be problematic, many sites are really strict about duplicate accounts. Also so that all the domains, services she buys are legally in her name etc.
      As for following the advice, she is going to put time, work hard and learn the basics, which is what the new lappy is for! Which is also the advice give by most users.
      Glad you could have a chuckle at my minimum wage earnings
      Hopefully it won't stay that way for long.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Just by you posting this question on this thread shows that you are unsure and unprepared, for instance, not really clear on what particular things you will sell/deliver and just mentioning "IM"

    I'm not saying this to bring you down but like others have mentioned at length here, the money will probably will be lost if you don't have a system that is already working.

    Decide on what it is exactly that you want to do, don't spend 2k on it, and if it's making money then invest in it. If you are not making money... why throw more fuel into the fire?
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  • Profile picture of the author n3o
    can create a blog in a specific niche and outsource the content ..

    or

    buy a domain and point to white label site and sent some traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground
    Nothing worse than people asking questions, and people taking there time to give serious replies and the OP is just too clueless to listen and take it on board.

    It does seem like that's happened in this case.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craigcmatthew
      Originally Posted by Underground View Post

      Nothing worse than people asking questions, and people taking there time to give serious replies and the OP is just too clueless to listen and take it on board.

      It does seem like that's happened in this case.
      I've prefixed and suffixed all my replies with a "Thank You". I'm sorry if I still come across as unappreciative. Both of your suggestions were good but the business models you suggest are new to me. Really really really haven't got the time to start something new while managing my already existing projects and have her follow my lead into something that I know relatively little about.

      @Tom, can't thank you enough for your "laborious ramble". I read your post multiple times. I'm glad the mods didn't close this thread otherwise I would've missed some great advice. You've managed to articulate what I'm going through quite well. I've certainly taken your advice on board.

      This is probably a bit tacky but big thanks to everyone who's replied. I'll have her read the new posts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Underground
        Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

        I've prefixed and suffixed all my replies with a "Thank You". I'm sorry if I still come across as unappreciative. Both of your suggestions were good but the business models you suggest are new to me. Really really really haven't got the time to start something new while managing my already existing projects and have her follow my lead into something that I know relatively little about.
        You were talking about your sister starting a website I thought?


        That's one of the best things you can build online.

        You're going to have to learn something. What you know will not make your sister money.

        Most people let business master them. The successful one's master their business.

        You can do that by taking the time to pick the right thing.


        If you think people can just say 'do this, and you don't have to learn anything then you're mistaken.

        It's why I said you were clueless.

        Basically: Pick a product or model right at the outset that is proven right and stick with that. You'll need to do your research on that and learn something.
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        • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
          Originally Posted by Underground View Post


          Most people let business master them. The successful one's master their business.
          You don't even know what you are talking about.
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          • Profile picture of the author Underground
            Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

            You don't even know what you are talking about.
            You just don't know what I'm talking about.Sad but not unexpected here that that statement would seem so impossible to you.


            Has Warren Buffet not mastered the skills in his business to come out on top? Yes he has. He doesn't let the market master him. He has discipline and only invests in stocks that fit his criteria. Most successful people do that. Master the things that give them an advantage.


            That level is not common. Most investors and traders chase things, are all over the place, lack discipline. Don't have systems or procedures. Same as in IM.


            And just like in IM, you stand a chance if you find the 'right criteria' (product, service, market, direction) and stick to that once you know there is money there when you have mastered the skills.


            What a foolish claim to make. It reveals your own outlook, nothing more.
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  • Profile picture of the author LesterRussell
    Internet marketing can be a good source of income with a relatively low barrier of entry so in actual fact, the $2,000 to start out would be great for her.

    But from what you mentioned, your sister is looking towards an invest rather than an actual business. Rather than accepting to take in her money and help her set up some websites, i believe you should explain to her that IM is not a passive investment where you are able to put in money and wait for returns on your investment.

    Going into IM with the wrong mindset would be a very bad move. Everyone here knows that throwing money into the internet and expecting it to grow without taking any action is one of the most common newbie mistakes. You definitely won't want your sister going down such a path.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jen Eick
    Craigcmatthew -
    I know you requested the thread closed, but I just wanted to give you my 2 cents here.

    Like some others, I too wonder if what she's looking for is some kind of investment, rather than to truly get involved as an owner or even partner in some sort of business.

    You know (as you're making money online) that you've got to have a product to market. What's her interest?

    You can teach her what you know.do, but it may flop for her if she doesn't have the skillset, mindset, or interest to do it. There are many different paths one can take, some profitable for some but not for the other, and people succeed or fail at this for different reasons, I believe.

    I also agree that it's a rather risky deal to do between family members. And if she doesn't have the time to put in the work herself, and it's just you doing it for her, that puts a lot of pressure on you to: a) work a business you don't have time to do, but don't want to disappoint her, and b) have the added pressure of making a profit so you don't "lose" her initial investment.

    I think you should sit down and really talk to her about her interests or what is driving this specific interest, and then point her to a course on Amazon, Ebay, etc - as others have suggested. I've not personally gotten into doing the "Amazon seller" thing, but I hear even people who haven't been able to make money elsewhere online are able to with that.

    Best of luck to you and her in whatever direction you decide to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author nofh
    What Jason said!

    Additionally, I'm not quite sure how someone expects to make profit from a business without doing anything or having the time to invest in it. If you figure it out, for the love of God sell it as a WSO cos I wouldn't mind lying around doing nothing yet still make money. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    @Craig you've stirred up quite a response here.

    I think having your sister read through this thread will enable her to remove those rose-tinted glasses she probably has on at the moment and let her make a thoroughly informed decision about whether she wants to embark on this IM journey with you.

    One very encouraging factor I've noticed is that she hates her job with a passion. If you want to be successful in IM, you're definitely going to need some strong motivating force (some people like to call it their "why") to keep you going when the inevitable disappointment and challenges appear.

    For most people, it's usually a pain point or intense desire/passion. I remember how I felt 8 years ago when I was stuck at a dead-end sales manager job at a call center. I remember thinking I'd do practically anything to get away from that despicable job.

    I used those intense and passionate feelings to drive me forward in my internet marketing, I remember thinking to myself that I'd succeed at this somehow or die trying.

    If your sister can summon up those intense feelings of hatred for her job and channel it toward her internet marketing endeavor, I think she could do well. But she has to be a willing participant and not just a bystander, she needs to understand that this is a real business that requires work and intense effort to become successful in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
    Sounds like she just wants to hand you 2k and it magically makes money without her having to be a part.

    The part about no time people can make time, they just don't want to make time.

    If people cut down on a few things they can make a bunch of time...

    FB, TV, Internet Surfing, Telephone, etc...

    The first step to making any type of money is to treat it like a business.

    The second step is to provide value through content... So that people will know, like, and trust you... Then they buy from you.

    The third is to be a part of it. People want real they want to see you and your business is real... They want real value, real stuff that helps them... Stuff that solves their problems.

    I would tell her to save her money and invest her time and effort into.

    Building a blog on something she knows and can teach no matter what it is...

    Create a guide to help people in the topic that she is teaching

    Collect emails in exchange for her guide and promote products to those emails.

    Spend her money advertising her guide and her blog.

    Help people and make sales then money comes in
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Craigcmatthew View Post

    My sister recently discovered Internet Marketing and WF. She knows I'm into these things and she's asking me to oversee her investments. She's willing to put in about $2000 and wait for a year to see any earnings (which I think are reasonable expectations).

    The only problem is that she knows next to nothing about IM and she is unable to put in any hours due her day job. I could oversee her projects and deal with the service providers at best. For I have my own shit to deal with!

    She's my sister and I'd love to develop a few money-making websites for her but I'm simply not an expert and haven't got the time required. I looked through the "Other websites and Services" forum and saw some nice offers (Amazon/Clickbank/Adsense niche sites). Do you guys think that's a good idea?

    At present we are stuck at the first step, we don't know what to make a website about!

    Any advice will be appreciated.


    Forget it, neither one of you have time.

    Odds are you'll buy a ready made Amazon/Adsense site with zero traffic, so it's about as useful as elbow macaroni art.

    Save your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    Here is what I recommend:


    1. Choose a profitable niche (a niche where people are actively looking for solutions to their problems and are willing to spend money to receive the solution)


    2. Create a site that is based upon solving a specific problem in that niche


    3. Provide a solution to the problem in a format that allows the user to achieve significant results and solve his/her problem and sell it (ebook, video course, audio training, coaching, online bootcamp, etc...)


    4. Get your offer in front of a targeted audience (traffic generation)


    5. Build a list ( send targeted traffic to a squeeze page, and then present them with your offer in an email campaign as opposed to just sending them directly to your offer.


    6. Communicate with your subscribers and find out more about them and how you can make your offer better and better.


    You can outsource the website creation, and the product creation, and even the traffic generation.


    Or you can just spend a consistent 2-4 hours a day taking action until you have a complete business setup. Once your business is setup you can spend the majority of your time on driving traffic to your site and your squeeze page.
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  • Profile picture of the author SherimanAF
    Hi Craig,

    You know, reading what you wrote. I'm thinking your sister have a wrong perception about making money online or internet marketing in general.

    She 'Invest' her money like she's investing in a mutual fund. And hiring you as the Fund Manager.

    This likely to be a failed investment. Because, one important thing is, you don't 'invest' in making money online. You work your ass off. You need time, money and patience. And also importantly - business acumen.

    You surely have her best interest at heart for wanting to handle her 'investment'. But you need to go back and tell her the truth.

    All the best and take care.
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