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Hi Steve,

I tend to agree with you, it does seem that OP was far outside of the "fair use" of copyrighted content. However, to be fair, by posting his question on a public forum the OP does seem to be seeking the true answer about what is legit. My reply was intended to point out that not all cases of copying content is illegal, as what seemed to be implied by other posters replying to this thread. My post was a reply to those who suggested that copying is illegal in all cases, which clearly it is not.

I also hoped to spur a conversation about what is "fair use" and how one can correctly apply it. I thought that discussion would serve the interest of the OP as well as many others that might read this thread.

Lets give credit to the OP for being concerned enough to ask this question, and lets not jump to the conclusion that his intent was to steal content, after all, why in the world would he ask that question if he had no concern of infringing on copyrights?

Hi professorrosado,
It was your comment "Many with the sincerest of intentions want to divert the masses from doing something" that is classic Bernays philosophy, in this context, and tipped me toward that reference.

Straw man?


Another straw man?


Staw man with babies, nice.

Ooh... nice one... straw man with fallacy of quoting out of context.

Wow, four straw man arguments in one reply. I hope you didn't think I would take the bait, did you?

You may defend you own assertions if you wish, please do not attribute your assertions to me. I said what I said, not what you implied that I said. I stand by my own words, and have no intention to defend distortions and false assertions made by others.

We do seem to have strayed pretty far from the original topic. How about we move this conversation back to the thread topic, shall we?

I do find it somewhat amusing that I received a reply from Steve suggesting that I must consider a very specific case, not even the case that I made my reply to by the way, followed by your reply suggesting that I must consider a case of extreme and radically different circumstances.

Apparently I am not considering a specific enough case for Steve, and yet much too specific for professorrosado.

Let me sum up my reply with the concept that "context" matters. If one's words are taken out of context there is no longer any relevance to the true meaning and intent of the original statement.

My original assertion that "fair use" is a valid concept and part of copyright law, remains my primary assertion. No amount of hypothetical unprotected babies, murdered families, or guns to my head will cause me to back down from that assertion.

I don't believe that we should hide this "truth" from newbies that might be baby like in their understanding of copyright law. Let's not hide the truth, but instead, lets share it. While some might fail to understand the truth, or ignore it, that is on them.