I need help

You are here on a Internet Marketing forum so read the topics that are dedicated to beginners.

Do you have any skills? Than go to fiverr, oDesk or freelancer.com and offer it there.
This will help you to make atleast a few bucks a day.

What have you done that makes you determine that you have tried *everything to make money*, and you've "failed"? You have to jump into the game and get started. Internet marketing isn't about theory. Even if we gave you advice, would you do it? You already said you've tried "everything", so what's going to be so different from what we tell you, that you've already done?

Time for honest self-assessment, Khalid.

How many programs did you buy?

How long did you actually stick with each?

Did you truly commit? Or like most did you hop from one shiny thing to the next after a few days?

Like many here, you have learned:

> buying something is not the same as doing something

> you need a consistent method to succeed

> money CAN be made online.


But, also like many here, you have NOT learned:

> no "magic bullet" exists

> you have to stick with something to make it work

> clarity makes you effective.


You're still lurching around grasping for the next shiny object.


And you have absolutely no clarity on what you are doing or why.

You're in that "I want to make as much money as I can" mentality, and that is a failure mindset.

Set a target.

A revenue target for the next month.

I don't care what it is...$500, $1000 whatever it comes out to in the Egyptian pound.

Then answer the question, "How am I going to make this money?"

You will be at a stage nearly all the people here never reach.

The easiest way to reach that target is ONE sale, isn't it.

If you have to make 10 X $50 sales = $500, that's ten sales. Means you need one every three days.

If you only need one, that's 1 x $500 or 1 sale over the month. If you could focus your effort on getting one $1000 50% affiliate commission sale (=$500 for you) for the month, do you think you could succeed?

How about 2 x $500 affiliate commission sales? (=2 x $250 = $500 for you)

Would that be a lot easier than 10 x $50 (which assumes you have your own product and are keeping 100% of the revenue)?

Or 20 x $25?

Yet where do most people run to? The cheap ticket sales that they must make over and over again to succeed.

Do you know how many factors have to work together for you to succeed with low ticket, high volume offers?

The traffic. Has to be sufficient. Traffic >>> Qualification >>> Closing. If you want 20 sales, you'd better have 200 qualified leads and 2000 unqualified leads (that's your Traffic) to make sure you get the sales & revenue you want. Have you thought about it this way? No. Because only professionals have.

The qualification has to be good. Can you separate buyers from non-buyers before you show them your offer? Otherwise your statistics are going to be bad.

And the closing? That's copy. Whether it's a VSL or sales page, you need converting copy.

If just one of these steps fails, you don't make your revenue target without a whole lot more effort from the others.

Cheap Price does not translate into easy sales. Sorry. That's a false belief and it's perpetuated by the WSO section in the past few years. In the forum's beginning, I'm told, WSO prices were much higher, and the quality level was also.

And cheap means not good quality, right?

Even if it's a subconscious recognition.

Think about how this impacts you as the SELLER.

"I'm representing a cheap product." *hangs head in shame*

Even, as I said, if it's not a conscious recognition, it's there.


Pick a problem you know a group of people urgently wants solved.

Find out where those people hang out online.

Draw them over from where they are to your site.

Qualify them.

Close the qualified leads.

It's really, truly much simpler than so many people try to make it out.


And stay away from WSOs unless you can identify two things which I'll get to in a moment.

What a WSO most commonly is...is a tactic. Not a strategy. Know the difference.

A WSO is typically a piece of technology that plugs into the sales & marketing process. It is NOT usually the process. See the difference?

The WSO is most often presented as a new, groundbreaking magic solution and when you use it the clouds will part and angels will fly out or alternatively Valkyries from Valhalla depending on your preference, who will shower you with golden money.

I am a process engineer. I redesign the way companies do what they do, from manufacturing to sales processes. And technology is the thing I apply LAST.

Technology is glue.

You try to put it on early in the process, and all you end up with is sticky hands and a mess.

So here you go, you buy a WSO, believe it's the greatest thing in the universe, and try to apply it first. What happens?

Well, it's a tactic not a strategy. So you feel lost. And you don't see where to plug this thing into the process.

After a few days of halfhearted effort and full-on confusion, you give up.

And then the next shiny thing comes along.

So don't buy a WSO unless it:

1. Consists of solid business fundamentals

or

2. Fills in the gap of a tactic you have legitimately IDENTIFIED you need.

Got it?

If it's not teaching you the full process of how to run a business, it won't help you.

Or if it isn't meeting a tech need you have recognized--not that seems cool or sounds good--as missing in your process, you don't need it.

You do not buy things anymore just because they sound cool!! Got it?

If you need to learn how to sell, or market, or get into a specific niche, and a WSO can help you do that, fine. But the key here is you have thought about it and identified a skills gap, and are not just lunging blindly forward grasping at straws.

Get a revenue plan together.

Figure out how you're going to make that revenue.

Figure out your traffic plan. How many sales? Meaning how many qualified leads do you need? Meaning how many unqualified leads do you need?

If that's gibberish to you, then you really need to get some basic sales & marketing training.

Figure out where you are going to get that traffic from. Are you going to buy it? From what sources? Are you going to do the "slow but steady" free traffic method, by forum posting, email marketing from lead magnets, or blogging? (And if you blog, how are you going to get traffic there to read it?)


How many of you have ever planned anything like this out?

I'll bet close to zero.

The professionals know their numbers. Step up and learn yours. Estimate now. Adjust as you go with the data you get as feedback from reality.

Stop looking for magical moonbeam UFO unicorn WSOs to solve your problem for you.

Follow the above steps and you wont go too far wrong.

Research IM first before jumping into any high ticket products etc.

Learn as much as you can, develop a strategy, then follow through. Good luck.

No need to buy anything to learn the Affiliate. It is really easy to know how the system is working. You need to sell the goods anyway. To calculate how you sales is done by your referral, you need to use any affiliate site such as JVZOO or, some other site like this. Then you can use Facebook, Forum, Relevant Blog commenting, own blog to inform your targeted people. Anyway you must sell the products, if you can reach to your targeted audience, you will be able to sell the products. Follow the Simple steps. That is enough for the time being. Thanks a lot.

wow thank you all actually i didn't expect all this responds in this short time you warriors are the best thank you all very much and special thanks to mr.Jason Kanigan

It's true what everyone has said here. You cannot just make money for the sake of making money. There has to be some kind of substance and value otherwise you will be forever chasing the elusive dollars. It is best to do your homework and take your time. Get your fundamentals right and start off with the basics. Start a blog and grow from there. Because my friend, if you are spending money and haven't made any yet it will be because of one of two things. You are buying rubbish and are being scammed or you are not purchasing the right things and putting in the work. You could actually buy nothing for a while and start a blog about something that is a great niche that you like and just blog for three months. Then you could look at expanding yourself or seek out a great coach or mentor. I have one and he is great. This is a journey, not a get rich quick scheme. There is no such thing unless you are doing someone a disservice. In other words- ripping them off. I am not talking about you though, I am talking about quick get rich schemes. Hope this helps.

Hello,

Ok the real steps are, learn from us, stop buying things you don't need, and follow the steps that the pros use. Now everybody will tell you something different or send you to there funnel, after all this is the WF so wait there's more, sorry could not resist, anyhow here is the truth, many people do make money online, or from the WF, now if you have skills you can make money offering your services,

So always ask yourself, what are you good at, and try to work on that skill, like myself, lets go way back, so I sold my first website back in 1997 ya I know, long time, but I new then, I liked IM marketing, so yes people that are graphics designers and web designers, sell stuff much easier then others.

But many IM marketers sell thousands and do not have any Graphic design skills, so my point is to only try to learn and sell something that you know about or something that you think could be of service to others.

Many people fail here, because they try to grab the first affiliate product they find and have no clue about the product, and never use the product, always try your product out if your going to be selling it and learn how to market the product.

Research things fist, before you build anything, start with, WordPress blog, Theme, marketing, list building, integrate social media to your design, hosting, shopping cart, membership system, landing page creator, so as you can see I can go on and on, so learn first, and try to use all the free good stuff out there, until you learn a little bit.

So if this is starting to sound like a real business, well it is !!

Also this is not easy to learn IM marketing, takes time, and the truth is,
the only people making real money here, are real pros,

Ok hope this helps you
Thanks Rob.

Hi Khalid, Have you heard of CB Passive Income by Patric Chan? I have heard this is a good affiliate program for newbies. It costs $49 to join but with that you get all your 2/3 different products to promote with all the affiliate material, such as sales page, ads, emails for your autoresponder, and also the free offer to get subscribers. When you start to get subscribers they will keep marketing to your subscribers on your behalf and you get ongoing income. All you have to do is advertise your affiliate link and they do the rest.

This is what works for me ...

1 - Build or make something really outstanding
2 - Give it away, in exchange of name and email address -- build your list
3 - Make money with affiliate programs and your own products later on

All the best.

If you want to make money as an affiliate, you need to start a blog and build a list. You also need to make sure that you enter into a profitable market that you know something about. When you are starting out, it's good if you go into a niche in which you already own some products, this will save you money.

You just need to make sure the products that you write about get a good amount of searches. Targeting the right keywords is also important (keywords like [product name + review] and [author name/product creator + review]). Keywords like these indicate that the person is already familiar with the product and really wants to buy it.

Joey

Hi Khalid, thank you for posting your question. You got some amazing replies, all of which are very helpful, not only to you, but to me also, and any other newbies out there! The best bit of advice I can offer is . . . get a mentor! There are mentors in every niche. I struggled for years trying to make it on my own until I finally realized I needed a mentor --- someone to tell me what to do and show me how to do it. Now, at last, I'm making progress. I wish you luck in everything you do. Keep smiling!

I would Suggest you to use fiverr mate. As it is simple to setup and earn daily money, No Drama or any professional skills required .

First decide how you want to serve or help people out--something that truly interests you. Then create and commit to a business that will allow you to give that service.

"How to" ideas will not help you unless you settle on the kind of service you want to give other people and in the world. Once you know what you want to work in, then you can find the "how to" on how best to do it.

Would be good to have some more detail of the activities you do to make money, You mentioned you opened Fiver and only two sales from it, what did you do to promote it? How else did you try to make money off of it?

What's the issue - What's holding you back? What is it that you are finding difficult? Money isn't hard to be made just got to focus on a real business model not these BS push button money offers that just make the person selling them rich.

Let me know and I will see if I can help you out.

Evan

Hi there,

Most of us here will relate to you when you mention you have bought many products and courses. Most of us making money online took this route until we either ran out of money or we realized the problem was ourselves.

You need to work on your mindset and stick to one thing. I am pretty sure all you have bought is not rubbish. Much of what I bought over the years was rubbish but not all. I was living in my inbox jumping from one thin to another.

One thing for sure is that there is no magic wand in business just as in life. There's also no difference to making money online to making money off line in a brick and mortar business. You have to be totally dedicated and take total focused action.

We are so much luckier these days, as it is easier to make a living especially online but we do have many distractions. Maybe you should unsubscribe from the many lists you no doubt are subscribed to and take a look at yourself and ask yourself are you really prepared to put the shifts in to find success.

I could introduce you to the easiest way to make money online but if you did not give it 100% and carried on with the bad habits you have learned, you would not make $1.

I hope you can make some changes and get the success you deserve.

Good Luck

Ian G. Howarth.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got to help me get my head straight was to download xmind. It's a program that helps you brainstorm. It is free and no I'm not an affiliate or seller of this. Mapping out my ideas with this program really helps streamline my thinking process and I hope it does for you too.

Hi Khalid, at least i can see that you are ready to learn from someone who's making it. (A Mentor) If you had sort one the moment you started you would have skipped a few mistakes, but anyway you've taken the right move,
Here's my advice,
-You need to find a nice program to promote, one that's legit (I can help you find one)
-The program should have a nice and supportive community behind it.
-The moment you join find someone who's making it and emulate whatever he's doing. This will save you a torn of stress.
-Try doing things a little bit different, focus on giving value to people unlike treating them like ATM machines, this way you will create a following of people who like and trust you, this way its going to be easy to make sales.

Hope this helps.

Change your mindset, By the i mean remove the fantasy of "You will learn some stuff in the first 5 minutes then be a millionaire by next week" from your brain, you need to be a sponge, your brain needs to be a directory of information about anything available, master a skill, once you do, you will realize how to sell it.

There is no easy way to do anything, you do it the way you understand it.

Good luck man.

Hi Khalid

As you can see you have received heaps of replies from people.

The most important question I am going to ask you is..

Do you have a list?

It's all well and good to buy into programs and money making schemes but the most important thing that you must be doing is building a list.

Have you heard that the money is in your list?

That will be the lifeblood of your business.

The next thing you should be doing is to building a relationship with your list. Again this is so so important.

Most people will spend money with people who they know like and trust.

You can't just put stuff up on the internet and hope someone buys it... if that was all that was needed then we would all be billionaires.

I am happy to help out and give some suggestions if needed.

Just send me a message.

Cheers

Tiff

I got started 15 years ago doing affiliate/cpa marketing and this is how I do it...

Don't waste your time at first trying to "sell" a product or service. Instead generate leads, which the technical term is PPL: Pay Per Lead. Which you can do direct through affiliate programs or sign up to CPA networks, which will have many different PPL offers you can promote.

The reason I say you should generate leads is that there is no credit card required, all the user has to do is fill out a form for you to make money. Also, you will typically find that the conversion rate for leads (since it's free) is much higher than that of a product/service that requires a sale to be made.

I favor leads that have some type of financial positioning...have a make, get or save money angle to them. This has overall worked best for me, as they tend to have greater mass appeal, so the potential to generate high volume exists.

There are many leads that perform well that pay $20-$60 each and more depending on the vertical. This is key, as I rarely promote a PPL offer on a front-end campaign that pay less than $20, because I want that higher pay out($20+), so it's takes less conversions to make a campaign successful. If your promoting an offer that pays $10, then you need twice as many conversions to make the same amount of money. The only time I will promote an offer on the font-end that pays less, is if I know in advance that it has an above average conversion rate. Leads that pay less and product/services that do require a sale, I promote them on the back-end.

The way I generate traffic is through data(email) acquisition deals. These days I pretty much just acquire targeted data that I can get real-time or same day (exclusive and non exclusive). When I say that it's targeted, I know what the users are interested in and I know that a PPL offer exists that matches their interest. I also generate real-time co-reg using the same principle.

The reason why I acquire data over using other methods to generate traffic is for two reasons. Fixed low cost and I'm getting an asset that I can use over and over to generate traffic and promote other offers. The key to making this work is to start small with any new source and to test the data first to make sure that you can break-even in a reasonable amount of time, before spending a bunch of money.

All I care about is breaking-even on the data and this simple because once I break-even, then I have a asset(as mentioned earlier) that is now fully paid for, that I can continue to use to generate traffic and promote offers at a very low cost. Once I break-even then I will typically test to see how aggressively I can get away with promoting other offers and to do this I just watch my stats and back off if anything starts to become unacceptable.

If you read about building a list, most everyone say you need to build a relationship by sending quality content. This is not required with sending PPL offers, so it's less work. You just keep sending offers until the user unsubscribes. This may sound bad, but you will be surprised that a high percentage of users will stick around for years. As far a continually sending offers, another reason why offers that have a make, get or save angle to them works good, is that they are somewhat interchangeable, in the sense that when you promote other offers, it's fairly easy to tie-in one offer to the next, so the recipient understands why you sent the offer, even if it is totally different.

Example: Front-end campaign is an education offer (recipient is looking to get a higher paying job). I could tie-in a weight loss product by simply finding some stats that say that overweight people tend to make less than fit people, which I bet exists. Which is a bit extreme from one to the other, but that was the point to show how it could be done.

Basically I'm just monetizing data using PPL offers because they offer the past of least resistance to convert the data to cash. The above is really just a simple overview and there's more involved, but it's a great business! Everyone I know that's in it and knows what they are doing does 6-7 figures. Which is a wide range, but it all comes down to how aggressively you are able to scale it and effectively managing the infrastructure that come with scaling it.

If this is all new to you, one of the best ways to get started is generating co-reg. While the cost per record is higher, the cost to get started is low and the process is real simple. But most importantly, you will learn everything that you need to know from the marketing side of the business, which will make scaling and making data deals less overwhelming, compared to trying to do it all at first.

Anyway, something to think about.