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How I Got 1,800 Subscribers in 9 Weeks!

by jhongren
21 replies
Hi,

To return to the Warriors, here is what I have been implementing for the last 9 weeks.

I have been doing list swaps with list owners.

What does it means?

If James has a list of 1800, we can do ad swaps. This means we fix a day and we send a promo email to each other's list.

(Sometimes some list owners have smaller list, it is ok to do it if you feel comfortable or you can break your list down to suit his size. Some list owners I met have 20,000 optins and they don't mind sending my promo email to all of them even though my list is smaller.)

Most likely, the url has a freebie for people to download after they optin.

How to go about ad swaps?

There are list swaps exchange threads in Warrior Forum as well as Forum set up just for list owners to do ad swaps.

The JV thread is
=> http://www.warriorforum.com/forumdis...sprune=-1&f=13

Other urls:
=> http://www.jvnotifypro.com/community/index.php
=> http://imadswaps.com/

Again, it is back to relationship-building 101.

  1. Respect the list owner and ask nicely.
  2. Give 2 to 5 days of respond time. If there is no reply then, PM or email them again.
  3. If there is a positive reply, set a date and correspond through emails. Always ask how else you can help. Don't just take. Give more and you will find yourself receiving more.
  4. Send an email to the list owner again a day or 2 before the promotional date.
  5. After ad swaps, ask how the list owners are doing. Be humble and ask for results, conversions and feedbacks. Learn and move on and be better in the next swap.

(If the list owner happens to be launching a product, help him first. List ad swaps can always be done later. Remember to always help FIRST!)

What is next after ad swaps?

Ask for ad swaps partners exchange. I recommend you to my partners and you do likewise too.

I was able to grow quite fast because some list owners introduce me to their friends.

By leveraging on other people, all of us grow faster.

What if you are turned down when you ask for swaps?

It is ok. Time to move on. There is no need to grumble. When list owners refused to do swaps, they may be in the midst of a project. Some lists are exclusive to their own promos.

Respect that and move on.

You can keep in touch with them. Possibly ask next time and they may say "Yes".

(I was talking to quite a number of Warriors who got into a few times more subscribers than mine within the same period. I would love to hear from you too. =)

Cheers,
John
#800 #subscribers #weeks
  • Profile picture of the author logosi
    I have done that in the past, but I knew the list owner ahead of time. Good thought though, maybe you should cross post in the JV forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
      Good thought though, maybe you should cross post in the JV forum.
      Thanks for the advice. I have added the Warrior Forum JV thread link in the original post.
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      • Profile picture of the author EdmundLoh
        Seems the ad swap trend I started on the WF JV thread a couple of years back is now experiencing critical mass.

        Well done Jhong Ren and yes, ad swap is a good way to "make subscribers with subscribers".

        -- Edmund Loh
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      • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
        John!

        I know where this idea is coming from... And this is one great way to speed up your list building.

        But as far as I am concerned, I would rather build a list of 200 customers... even if I do not make money on the front end. These are customrs that are much more inclined to pay when you ask them to pay... And Backends can make you some real money...

        I would recommend you do this... Create a small info product (Maybe 2 videos or 4 audios or an ebook) that is very very targeted and focussed towards a perticular topic within your niche. And sell it for 17 bucks or so using PPC. The idea is to buy a lot of PPC traffic for less than 25 cents and for that you need more than a little bit of knowledge about PPC.

        If you can comfortably break even on the front end, then Backend is the place to earn. Just make sure you are not losing a lot of money on the front end. This way you can buy thousands of clicks for just 250 bux or so.. and then even if your sales page converts at 2%, you make 340 bux.. PLUS A LIST OF 20 new CUSTOMERS EACH DAY. That keeps growing as long as you keep doing it.

        And then how many such 17 dollar info products can you do? Yeah, I knew that... many.

        This is WORKING FOR ME like a champ... and I am making money with tiny little lists of customers... that barely count 2000. not millions though... but then I started at thw same point of time when you did.

        My take on this... I keep working like this and soon enough I will have a list of 10,000 customers... so getting lucrative JV partnerships for my middle level products will not be that difficult.

        Till then, I have my low end 97 dollar products to sell to this list on the backend.

        Nothing wrong in building a general list though. It is much easier to build that list.

        -Lakshay
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  • Profile picture of the author sideserver
    Excellent post, John!

    Succinct and crystal clear
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Murphy
      Thanx John. It just gave me a new idea on how to grow my list. Thats creative thinking at its best
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt James
        Just make sure your list swap partner follows through for you.

        A couple of times (and this is from well known marketers) I've had the old excuse "oops I meant to send this morning, sorry..."

        They followed up eventually but only sent to one of their smaller lists.

        Just make sure you know your list swap buddie is a good guy and not being extra nice just so he can get his hands on your hard earned subscribers
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        • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
          Originally Posted by Matt James View Post

          Just make sure your list swap partner follows through for you.

          A couple of times (and this is from well known marketers) I've had the old excuse "oops I meant to send this morning, sorry..."

          They followed up eventually but only sent to one of their smaller lists.

          Just make sure you know your list swap buddie is a good guy and not being extra nice just so he can get his hands on your hard earned subscribers
          Not to mention the occasional partner who doesn't send at all after you send for them...happened to me recently (and it was a Warrior).

          So if you don't already recognize their names, be sure to do a bit of research or get references before you agree to a swap.
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt James
            Hey Ken,

            Not to mention the occasional partner who doesn't send at all after you send for them...happened to me recently (and it was a Warrior).
            Oh yes, I can believe that!
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          • Profile picture of the author EdmundLoh
            Yes! the trend is definitely catching up Edmund... But I guess it is being done since a long while... Is it not?
            Of course, it's been around for a long time. I too have learned it from someone else and did my ad swaps outside the Warrior Forum circle. I remembered posting an Ad Swap JV for the first time in the JV thread and because there were no other threads about it at all (after going through the past pages), I recalled having to explain in layman terms how it works.

            Haha, those days. Now people get it so easily that all you have to do is mention you want an ad swap, some vital stats, and let the PMs roll in.


            Not to mention the occasional partner who doesn't send at all after you send for them...happened to me recently (and it was a Warrior).

            So if you don't already recognize their names, be sure to do a bit of research or get references before you agree to a swap.
            I know what you mean Ken. If there are any drawbacks to Ad Swaps, it's finding someone who can be trusted. I had a scum from the Warrior Forum cheating me on an ad swap as well.

            His screen shots about broadcasting to his list were convincing, but my autoresponder was telling me otherwise (read: 0 new opt-ins). Too bad I can't name him here, but if you find the one who has questionable opt-in list size growth and making controversial threads in the past, it's probably him. Just use your due diligence nonetheless. (should have used mine... lol)

            -- Edmund Loh
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  • Profile picture of the author sideserver
    John,

    How many subscribers did you have on your initial list right before you started on your first ad swaps?
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  • Profile picture of the author sideserver
    And the 300 that you had, where they mostly from PCC -> squeeze page with free ebook giveaway -> upsell, or something like that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Muir
    That is not bad to go from 0 -300 in 2 weeks. what was your process
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