If I knew then what I know now - let's help the newbies

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Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

Dee
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    • Profile picture of the author BoDSN
      Originally Posted by JamesGEvans View Post

      Hi Dee,


      One tip: do not expect to make millions in 1 day, 1 month or year, there is a learning curve and a lot of problems to deal with...

      James
      True James, your earnings are closely connected to your knowlegde. The more you learn the more you earn (and it rimes...oh man)
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  • Profile picture of the author Laura B
    ...I would not spend so much time researching and so little time DOING.
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    • Profile picture of the author egaeb
      Originally Posted by Laura B View Post

      ...I would not spend so much time researching and so little time DOING.
      I don't know whether or not I could be considered a newbie but I definitely get stuck on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Searchlabmedia
      I think that is exactly my problem right now as a newbie
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  • Profile picture of the author Punkaj Dube
    I would avoid information overload and take action ASAP.
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    • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
      Dee, great idea for a thread!

      I would have spent less time chasing the money and more time finding ways to provide value and give people what they're already looking for. Once I really "got that" the money started flowing a lot easier.

      Wendy
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      • Profile picture of the author bethrobinson
        I wouldn't buy anything over $100 unless I was sure I could use it NOW. Not that I might have time for it or it could be useful later. NOW.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rob Anderson
      Originally Posted by Punkaj Dube View Post

      I would avoid information overload and take action ASAP.

      EXACTLY.

      however no matter how many times you tell people they still do it.
      i did. but now i have written a small book about that exact topic.

      kinda got it off my chest.

      phew,

      now on to real work.

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    • Profile picture of the author Pnigro
      Originally Posted by Laura B View Post

      ...I would not spend so much time researching and so little time DOING.
      Originally Posted by Punkaj Dube View Post

      I would avoid information overload and take
      action ASAP.
      Pretty much.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    You should also be very persistent. The key to online success - is failure. You've got to be ready to fail, and then move on. Then when you finally hit on a success, you'll have something to build on. But don't be afraid to fail. The most successful people in the IM business are also some of the biggest failures. The only difference between a complete failure, and a successful IMer is the IMer knows how to fail and keep going.

    Now I feel like breaking into a Kenny Rogers tune... "You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, and know when to run!"
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    • Profile picture of the author WritingMadwoman
      Wow, so very true Gary. Great advice!

      Wendy



      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      You should also be very persistent. The key to online success - is failure. You've got to be ready to fail, and then move on. Then when you finally hit on a success, you'll have something to build on. But don't be afraid to fail. The most successful people in the IM business are also some of the biggest failures. The only difference between a complete failure, and a successful IMer is the IMer knows how to fail and keep going.

      Now I feel like breaking into a Kenny Rogers tune... "You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, and know when to run!"
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Some tips I'd give anyone just starting out (from my experience) would include:

        1) Perfectionism is your enemy. Several years ago a very wise and very rich person advised me that a perfectionist was someone lacking either self confidence or self esteem and that made me look at my business in a different light. Striving for perfection is just another displacement activity we force upon ourselves to avoid or delay taking the action we know we should.

        In most cases, especially at the beginning of our ventures, good enough is probably good enough.

        I remember some of the products put out by the current big names in internet marketing early in their careers and cringe. [Of course, some of their later offerings are still pretty cringeworthy, but at least they now look more professional ]

        The point is, just get something done; whether it's a website, blog, product, squeeze page, whatever. You'll quickly improve with experience.

        2) Trust yourself. Only you are responsible for your success. So many people look to others to provide them with the key to their own riches. That's an employee mentality and will only serve to keep you working for someone else.

        Running your own business is about having the self confidence to make decisions for yourself and seeing them through. By all means, listen to and learn from those more experienced and successful in your field, but don't follow blindly - remember that what they're describing is what works for them; it may or may not apply to your situation.

        3) Stop buying stuff. Successful internet marketers buy tools or software that either directly add to their profits or that automate facets of their business, thus improving their efficiency and reducing their workload. They're not product launch junkies desperate for their next fix.

        Decide on a business model that's right for you and then only be tempted to buy products that you're sure will be of benefit to that business. Otherwise, it's just too easy to get sidetracked.


        Oh, and the biggest lesson of all - if you ain't enjoying it, it ain't worth it.



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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Essi
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Some tips I'd give anyone just starting out (from my experience) would include:

          1) Perfectionism is your enemy. Several years ago a very wise and very rich person advised me that a perfectionist was someone lacking either self confidence or self esteem and that made me look at my business in a different light. Striving for perfection is just another displacement activity we force upon ourselves to avoid or delay taking the action we know we should.

          In most cases, especially at the beginning of our ventures, good enough is probably good enough.

          I remember some of the products put out by the current big names in internet marketing early in their careers and cringe. [Of course, some of their later offerings are still pretty cringeworthy, but at least they now look more professional ]

          The point is, just get something done; whether it's a website, blog, product, squeeze page, whatever. You'll quickly improve with experience.

          2) Trust yourself. Only you are responsible for your success. So many people look to others to provide them with the key to their own riches. That's an employee mentality and will only serve to keep you working for someone else.

          Running your own business is about having the self confidence to make decisions for yourself and seeing them through. By all means, listen to and learn from those more experienced and successful in your field, but don't follow blindly - remember that what they're describing is what works for them; it may or may not apply to your situation.

          3) Stop buying stuff. Successful internet marketers buy tools or software that either directly add to their profits or that automate facets of their business, thus improving their efficiency and reducing their workload. They're not product launch junkies desperate for their next fix.

          Decide on a business model that's right for you and then only be tempted to buy products that you're sure will be of benefit to that business. Otherwise, it's just too easy to get sidetracked.


          Oh, and the biggest lesson of all - if you ain't enjoying it, it ain't worth it.



          Frank
          Frank....Frank....Frank....

          You nailed it bro!! That's what I am talking about!!

          Richard
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Essi
            Originally Posted by Richard Essi View Post

            Frank....Frank....Frank....

            You nailed it bro!! That's what I am talking about!!

            Richard
            Guys,

            This thread should really be made a sticky for newbies!! The information is too good to be lost in the sea of threads!!

            The advice in this thread is priceless...it's kind of like having a mastermind of mentors chiming in with their words of wisdom based on solid experience.

            Regards,

            Richard
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            • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
              Hey guys,

              I'm only 16 but have been marketing for about 12 months - ish.

              I would say that my biggest mistake initially was falling for all the hype of the so-called "gurus". Don't do it. Most of the stuff they sell isn't as great as they make out. In 99% of cases it's decent money-making information but not the "brand new millionaire-overnight maker system" they make out it is.

              Becoming a millionaire, or at least financially comfortable requires a lot of work. It's nowhere near as easy as many make out.

              In addition, I think you have to be "technically aware" as opposed to a techie-geek. You obviously need to be able to create opt-in forms, build webpages, basic code etc. I wouldn't say any of it was rocket-science but it certainly takes some fathoming out to begin with.

              My advice to the newbies is never to buy a course without videos, because the chances are you won't understand it

              Hope this advice helps
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        • Profile picture of the author NetworxNZ
          Frank - I cannot endorse enough what your saying here about stop buying stuff.....

          I don't know (in fact I'd hate to find out :-() how much I've spent on "Internet Education" in the past three years - it well into the 10's of thousands though - much of which never got implemented - yes it's part of the learning process but in hindsight (which I now know it's my duty to share with as many others as possible) - it's better to find something that people want, use a proven product/system and then apply yourself fully in a focussed and consistent manner. Jumping around all over the place achieves little and just adds to your confusion and frustration!

          Above all else, as other people have reiterated throughout this thread though - take action!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        Yes, more often than not I seem to be crawling through thick treacle. Even after after 3 years IM (part time, from scratch) my investment in IM is still not paying off (ROI still zero). But the info I've learned/collected - wow!

        I've done all the method-hopping stuff, and finally settled on article marketing -- list building, I do need to get a more exposure though. Even having had a top mentor for a few months, I found I still had to develop my technique, which when IM budget runs out is both good and bad. I feel I'm pretty good at writing now, so that's where my main focus is.

        Even so, It's still hard to maintain a focus ON ONE THING, particularly when those "gurus" keep posting good ideas/methods on the forum and presenting opportunities that seem like they could give me just a little quick "booster" income .

        Sometimes I could weep in frustration, but there's no way I'm stopping now, no way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Wright
    Making mistakes is what makes us who we are! and personally I am glad that I made them when I was starting off than now when I am going very well within Internet Marketing! One main thing that I have learnt is never give up! and I teach that to all my sponsors now that even when the going gets tough, theres a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!
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  • Profile picture of the author Debbie Allen
    I think that in the beginning I thought I was the only one that didn't find immediate success with Internet Marketing. Luckily I was willing to hang in there for as long as it took: I really didn't have much of a choice because I had decided this was my long-term career and I was determined to make it work. But I remember wondering over and over why "I" was the one among the thousands of Internet Marketers that was taking so long to make money.

    I think that feeling had a lot to do with me trying various things and sometimes losing my focus. I was in pursuit of succeeding like everyone was. I often lost sight of my ultimate goals and instead, I thought only about making money.

    Much later I realized that only a few people are able to find success within the first six months or even the first year of Internet Marketing. Probably even more important was the realization that each of us has to find what works for us. I know we can all use any given technique, but when we match our methods to our interests, personality, and our existing skills, our job is much easier. When that is coupled with a passion for offering something that is needed it seems success comes almost without effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author newBum76
      Originally Posted by Debbie Allen View Post


      Much later I realized that only a few people are able to find success within the first six months or even the first year of Internet Marketing.
      When you say this, what do you consider "success"....any money at all?

      I'm just getting started here and I gotta admit, it's not very motivating to hear that it will most likely take at least 6 months to make any money at all. I REALLY hope what you said here is just your opinion and not the norm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keith Kogane
    Be an "editor" in a niche and not an "author". You can become an authority and thought leader in any niche you want simply by collecting and organizing the information that the niche produces. You don't have to strive to be a unique and original voice. You don't have to be excellent - you just have to be comprehensive.

    Also, the best idea in the world is worth nothing at all until it's manifested in the real world. The most perfect and complete internet marketing education has ZERO value. The only thing that is rewarded in this industry is ACTION. Action gets results. Results can be measured. That which can be measured can be improved. Etc, etc.

    The key is to stop thinking so much and start building pages, making offers, and splitting your time beteween doing that more and more, and improving the ones you've already got.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeePower
      So ah, Keith, what was the mistake you made?

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      • Profile picture of the author Keith Kogane
        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        So ah, Keith, what was the mistake you made?

        Dee
        The mistake I meant to point out was in the way I was thinking about how I presented myself in niches I was pursuing before I figured out to be an "editor" and not an "author" - like many others, I would get too personally attached to the quality of everything instead of just being free to put it out there.

        I would get paralyzed by fretting over what to say next that could possibly be of interest to ANYONE much less people looking at my website, this MONUMENT to all my hard work. I was WAY overthinking it. All of it.

        It kept me working on a singular, unsuccessful, and low-potential angle for far too long, and by "working" I mean "thinking about endlessly and not actually doing anything". The way to overcome it was what I detailed in my earlier post.

        Sorry if I stated it in a very roundabout sort of way. The mistake is in not just trusting that I already knew what needed to be done and all that I needed to do was DO it, ANY of it, and actually begin building something instead of thinking about it and researching it all the time.
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        • Profile picture of the author beninewie
          One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

          When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

          What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.

          Cheers,
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          • Profile picture of the author itcoll
            Originally Posted by beninewie View Post

            One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

            When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

            What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.

            Cheers,
            Ben
            Yes Ben.I agree - some times i work for 15 hours and some times i just sit before my PC and do NOTHING !! And that seems busy but i dont do any work at all.We must not be busy but productive - just sitting before PC and checking adsense stats every now and then - its gonna do nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    This isn't specific to IM, it's what I borked up in my offline consulting business.

    If it's not growing, it's dying. Always look for more clients. Always. Never stop. Make it an integral part of your business.

    Don't get lost in the trenches. Don't spend so much time working IN your business, that you can't work ON your business. This relates to the above. Check in with your employees, with your clients, with the status of projects.

    Bad news gets worse the longer you wait. If you think you might miss a deadline, go to the client NOW! If you think you might have a supply problem, go tell your customers NOW! Right now! Don't wait! The sooner you tell them, the more likely it is that you can turn "maybe we can't do it" into "yes, we can do it" - and that HELPS more than "we tried everything and can't do it" hurts. If you don't tell anyone there's a problem, you don't get any credit for fixing it. Blame is easy to get, but credit is hard.

    Outsource liberally. Never do anything yourself when someone else will do it for $10 an hour. I picked up this fantastic piece of advice from Don Lapre (along with many others that are just as useful), and it made a huge difference - but you have to apply it properly; don't just sit on your arse while someone else does the work, use the time to do other work that you can actually bill to a client. The worst possible thing you can do is hover over a temp's shoulder making sure he does things "right." It's $10 an hour. Let him do it, and go concentrate on something else. Don't hire a $10-an-hour temp and allocate a $135-an-hour consultant to the job.

    Finally, make decisions quickly. There's a very simple process to making decisions. If you have several things you could do, and you don't know which one to choose, start by throwing out all the ones that are obviously wrong. The reason you can't choose among the rest is that you don't have enough information. When you can't get more information, or you don't have time to get it, or the information is too expensive - stop. Everything that hasn't turned out to be wrong at this point is equally good, to the best of your knowledge. You can pick one at random and have an equal chance of success as far as you know. If you turn out to have made the wrong decision, there is no way you could have known, and you should have no regrets.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.
    This was my biggest mistake too. At one point I didn't even research keywords at all (I think I had read somewhere that it was better to just write good stuff and not worry about the keywords and the money would come......it didn't...)

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  • Profile picture of the author Shana_Adam
    • I would stop making everything soooo complicated
    • Stop being a perfectionist - must have ocd
    • take Action like NOW - not tomorrow
    • Not collect every self help and every IM ebook - 90% of it is useless - just clogs up your hard drive
    • I would not be as lazy
    • Not taking the KW Research bit seriously - and also making the KW research so so complicated.
    • Follow one Business model - its hard to be a jack of all trades
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  • Profile picture of the author kayelex
    The two biggest things are taking action and making sure there is a way to test and track what you are doing. Taking action is obvious, but so many people over look the testing phase.

    Its easy to tell if a campaign is failing because your wallet is growing. But, without testing you won't know WHY it failed so you don't repeat the mistake or maybe even turn the loser into a winner. But, on the other end of the scale, testing and tracking is important for winners too. With the right data, you may be able to turn that $50 a day campaign into a $100 a day campaign, or $500 a day campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author FlashDriveDT
    Use twitter only AFTER you reached your financial goal.

    And like Dee said, don't just assume the viability of your keywords - CHECK them. Use the Google AdWords keyword tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    GET TO THE MONEY!

    In other words, never EVER stop a money making project in order to start a new project or research something else. I did this so much early on and could have been successful much sooner had I simply done one thing at a time...the thing that would make the money!

    It's a business, not a hobby.

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    • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      ... never EVER stop a money making project in order to start a new project or research something else. I did this so much early on and could have been successful much sooner had I simply done one thing at a time...the thing that would make the money!
      This was my downfall too. Starting to think of yourself as being in business rather than goofing around 'trying' to make some money online forces you to take it more seriously and complete projects to the point where they are profitable.

      I also made the mistake of not getting into a mentoring program. It took me two years to learn myself what I could have picked up in a few months from a good mentor.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jenni Mac
        Focus! Focus! FOCUS!!!

        My big mistake back in the day was not focusing on one thing at a time for long enough! I'd see a little success, figure I was ready to move onto the next thing and then my initial success would just fade away because I hadn't set it up correctly, or spent enough time on it. So I'd end up having to go back to my initial success and work at it again! Ending up bored and disillusioned, chasing my own tail!

        Focus!

        If I had done proper research and focused on using that research one step at a time, I'd be a year ahead of myself now!

        Still, you live and learn!
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  • Profile picture of the author Easy Cash
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

    Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

    For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

    I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

    For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

    That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

    Dee
    Excellent - Excellent Tip Here - if you are a newbie you certainly want to take note of this!

    Thanks Dee.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dawn Martin
      As a newbie to both this forum and the world of IM, I'd just like to say thanks for these tips, they have certainly made me think in order to get myself up and running.

      Dawn
      (P.S Sorry for the N/A everywhere - I'm currently on a PC that has most common sense things disabled on it )
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
    I focused so much on getting traffic to my site that I completely overlooked what to do with them.

    Once I was able to answer this simple question, it all started to click.

    What do you want them to do when they get there?

    Click an ad? Buy a product? whose product? opt in?...

    Once you really know what you want them to do, then the other stuff starts to fall into place.

    Matt
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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    We all make mistakes and always will-what works today may not work tomorrow.

    My biggest mistake was not cloaking affiliate links properly.
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    • Profile picture of the author DependableTrader
      Mistermint, you mentioned that your biggest mistake was not cloaking your affiliate links properly. Thats the area that I am starting to look at right now. What do you suggest as the best way to cloak affiliate links??
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    OK, this is what I wish I had known then:

    1) Don't invest money in software unless it is to save you time on existing tasks. I went through a phase of just buying loads of software and then leaving it on my HD to rot. Now I do the process manually to see how it works then look for tools to make the job quicker.

    2) Don't commit to high overheads. I made the mistake of taking out a expensive lease, hiring a sales team & developers and commiting myself to a high amount of advertising. It worked well for a while but the recession gave us a little nudge and the house of cards came falling down.

    3) Do what YOU want to do. Whatever you do make sure it is something you enjoy. The worst thing I have done is start something purely for the money when I have no interest in it. I get bored quick and find it hard to motivate myself in these situations.

    4) Seek out contacts and mentors you can trust. I now save a lot of my time by making contacts with experience in what I want to do. Once you talk to a few experts and ask the right questions you can save yourself months of wasted time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roy Carter
    1st tip: Don't comb your hair with your hat on!

    Seriously though, the biggest single reason I see that leads to failure is jumping from one project to the next without ever finishing any project fully. Focus on one thing at a time and absolutely refuse to be distracted until the job is done.
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  • Profile picture of the author sneddo
    As others have said do not waist money on software that you do not need.
    Look at article outsourcing if you are into article marketing - Do not get more than 300 word articles if your sole point of the article is to get targeted traffic to your site. if you are looking for contectual links to your site have articles of about 500 words and have one link in the article to your page and one in the bio.

    It took me a long time to master outsourcing and the best lengths for articles to be. I get over 50% click through for my ezine articles now.
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  • Profile picture of the author billionareHuman
    One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

    When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

    What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.
    That's so true, but there's an easy fix for this, outsource all your stuff and you will see that action happens all the time, and you're free to focus on other stuff.

    I used to think that I couldn't outsource some stuff as it was all in my head and it was all things that I learned over the years and it's not so easy to train someone. However when I actually tried to put my methods on paper and video I discovered that I could train anyone to think like me and do things how I wanted it done, it was an amazing discovering for me You can map everything out step by step it's amazing what comes out of your head when you try!
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  • Profile picture of the author barbling
    My advice from my 12+ years of earning a living online:

    1.) Brand yourself first and foremost. This way, if the niche on which you are focusing goes belly up, you still have your name reputation on which to rely when you tackle your next niche.

    2.) If you're new to a niche, find a mentor. For my three biggest niches, I was able to find superb mentors - Bill Vick for recruiting, Jack Peckham for real estate, and Tony Blake for Internet marketing. Mentors have connections newbies do NOT.

    3.) Get your list operational. The money is truly in the list....so get that optin on your page asap. It could be for a newsletter, a freebie, a 7 day eclass....anything that starts getting people to sign up. Deliver quality content 1 or 2 times as week and build up your reputation as THE subject matter expert.

    4.) Participate in niche forums
    . Being helpful in niche forums is a great way to build your reputation as THE subject matter expert as well! Boardreader - Forum Search Engine is a good place to find where your niche is being discussed, as is simply searching

    niche forum

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    5.) Develop a tag line. For example, I'm not only "Barbara Ling", I'm also "Virtual Coach." When you comment on blogs, you can add your tagline after your name. If there are keywords in your tagline, that goes a long way towards getting your name seeded online.

    6.) Take ownership. Take ownership of both your successes AND your failures. Blaming anyone else is a great way to sink into unhappiness at an even faster rate. You cannot depend upon ANYONE (read: your mentors, your network, your friends your family) except YOURSELF for success or failure....you are the one driving the process.

    7.) Do NOT lie!!!!!! ARGH! Today someone posted at my niche forums an obvious lie about Zero Friction Marketing - they said in their post, they just started using it, but the page to which they directed readers stated, they're making bleeploads of money already. It's SOOOOO easy to search on Google for fake testimonials! That will go a hell of a long way to RUIN your credibility as well.

    8.) Give happily on Twitter, FB, etc. Go out of your way to answer questions in the field in which you are specializing; chances are, people will retweet your info.

    Some ideas,

    Barbara
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  • Profile picture of the author morry
    Biggest mistake I made was spending too much time on "money makers", not actually building a proper business. Once I started doing that my income grew pretty consistently. When I was building money makers, I was like those guys who try and keep 10 plates spinning in the air. The moment I left one alone, it smashed into a million pieces.

    Focus on a business people

    Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author btheiler
      Biggest mistake was buying the "next big money making guide" and was wasting all my money but never taking action. Many of the guides actually out there will work if you stick to it, that's just the problem though. Taking action is the first big hurdle but then you have to keep yourself from getting distracted by the next "guru" craze over the next big guide.

      Just stick to a system and don't read any of your emails, this is what I finally started doing and I found myself getting a lot more work done.
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  • Profile picture of the author timer
    Some good points. Keywords are the basis of all the other building blocks. Once you've got your head round that, the chances of making a living online increase enormously don't they? They are the foundation but it's so easy when first starting to whizz straight through past keywords to all the other stuff isn't it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HelenS
    As a newbie both to IM and this forum I have to say I am super impressed! I got just as much out of reading this one page as I have spending a small fortune on courses (which I have done)

    I am definitely stuck in the research, research, research stage and am not really taking any action... I keep telling myself when I've learnt this or when I understand that I will take action... You guys have given me the confidence (yup that's what it comes down to) to take action NOW!

    Honestly, that is priceless!
    Thank you so much
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    • Profile picture of the author Paxton
      Never, ever, ever try to game the search engines. As many resources as you can throw at Google in at attempt to game them, they've got more to throw right back at you and send your sites to page 7 gazillion hell.

      Treat the search engines right and they become your best customers.

      Also keep in mind: search engine robots don't have Credit Cards or PayPal accounts. Your visitors have those and the only way you can get them to use them is to offer value on your sites.

      No matter what niche you market in, your traffic is looking for information. Information to make a buying decision, information to justify a buying decision or information to cancel a buying decision. Information.

      Offer that and the search engines will reward you and your traffic will buy from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author barbling
      Originally Posted by HelenS View Post

      ...I am definitely stuck in the research, research, research stage and am not really taking any action... I keep telling myself when I've learnt this or when I understand that I will take action... You guys have given me the confidence (yup that's what it comes down to) to take action NOW!

      Honestly, that is priceless!
      Thank you so much
      It's called "just freakin' DO IT!" because if YOU don't, nobody else will do it for you.

      Work towards making it happen....best of success to you!
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        Thanks Barbling
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        The biggest mistake I made starting out was not building an opt in list.

        I know it's a terrible cliche (the money is in the list) but usually the worst
        cliches are so because they're true, providing you know HOW to build an
        opt in list. Yes, you do have to know what you're doing. You can't just
        throw any old squeeze page out there. You can't just target any old market
        and keyword phrase. You can't just offer any old crappy incentive.

        Everything has to be carefully planned, right from the initial research to
        that very last email followup.

        If you do this correctly, it alone can provide you with a full time income.

        Especially if you're offering your list something that they want, can use
        and actually works for them.

        Then...you have customers virtually for life.
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        • Profile picture of the author BoDSN
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          The biggest mistake I made starting out was not building an opt in list.

          I know it's a terrible cliche (the money is in the list) but usually the worst
          cliches are so because they're true, providing you know HOW to build an
          opt in list. Yes, you do have to know what you're doing. You can't just
          throw any old squeeze page out there. You can't just target any old market
          and keyword phrase. You can't just offer any old crappy incentive.

          Everything has to be carefully planned, right from the initial research to
          that very last email followup.

          If you do this correctly, it alone can provide you with a full time income.

          Especially if you're offering your list something that they want, can use
          and actually works for them.

          Then...you have customers virtually for life.
          I hear that. Most people that starts some online money making approach, keep on trying. Start building a list immediately, it can grow huge in a couple of years, and bring it lots of money when used correct!
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        • Profile picture of the author John Boyd
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          The biggest mistake I made starting out was not building an opt in list.

          I know it's a terrible cliche (the money is in the list) but usually the worst
          cliches are so because they're true, providing you know HOW to build an
          opt in list. Yes, you do have to know what you're doing. You can't just
          throw any old squeeze page out there. You can't just target any old market
          and keyword phrase. You can't just offer any old crappy incentive.

          Everything has to be carefully planned, right from the initial research to
          that very last email followup.

          If you do this correctly, it alone can provide you with a full time income.

          Couldn't agree more, Steven.

          Especially if you're offering your list something that they want, can use
          and actually works for them.

          Then...you have customers virtually for life.
          Couldn't agree more, Steven. Remember the 5 P's. Perfect Preparation Prevents Poor Performance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sisu
    As a newbie also to the forum and to IM, I found this information fantastic. Wow, I see myself doing most of those mistakes..taking hours to write an article, not searching for keywords, buying useless programs, although I finally hit on one that was of great value and affordable, including videos. (Let me know if anyone is interested). Anyway, I want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart as it has certainly boosted my morale....I know that I'm not alone!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sisu
      I just read Steven's post and noticed that he's posted over 12,000 posts. I can't even imagine...what an accomplishment.
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      • Profile picture of the author keyaziz
        I wish I knew the REAL meaning of "focus on one thing at a time". I thought for such a long time that I was focusing on just one thing at a time...but then one day I just realised that I wasn't! I would dart from one idea to the next and not really finish anything.

        This came about (my realisation) when I changed my whole attitude to the online thing and focused on my passions and not the money. I found I started focusing on one thing at a time...and everything seemed to click into place (of course with hard work
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    • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
      * Get your landing page up immediately -- before you have a product ready -- and get that list going.

      * Don't skimp on trying to find a free solution for everything. You're reinventing the wheel and you're wasting time that could have been spent on creating a product or marketing. "Time is money."

      * Don't get distracted every time you see a new business model or WSO. Stick to your projects and see them through. Once they are off the ground, go ahead and start something else if you are so inclined. But don't neglect something for the sake of something else.

      * Don't over-analyze things to the point where all you are doing is research. Get busy on those blogs, sites, ebooks, audio, vidoe, whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichPargeter
    I definitely wouldn't chase the money. I did this time and time again trying to find the magic bullet with little success.

    I bought ebook after ebook, trying to find a get rich quick scheme I suppose... but the day I started treating my efforts online as a business I became much more focused.

    I stuck with a system and approach I was happy and comfortable with and things started to turn around and look a whole lot clearer.

    My advice to the newbies out there is stick with it - making money online is possible but it does take time and work like any new business would.

    Best of luck,

    Rich
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    • Profile picture of the author Kathryn Allison
      I also want to thank all of you for posting words of wisdom to those of us that are new. I am having a difficult time not getting stuck in the research, research, research rut. I just feel like there is so much I don't know. Perhaps this is where having a good mentor would be beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author clarissa25
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    Everyone keeps talking about keywords. I have a question. When selection the title for an article I've heard that you should create a cool title that gets peoples attention. However that seems to contradict advice that says to create a long tail keyword title "one that peopel would actually search for. Do you just add words to end of the long tail keyword or something to make the title look appealing and different?
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    • Profile picture of the author nontracau
      I too am stuck in the research mode. I feel as if everything has to be perfectly planned right down to the last detail before I launch my campaign. Thank you for letting me know that I am not alone in feeling a little intimidated. I WILL have a campaign up and running by the end of this month.
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    • Profile picture of the author newBum76
      Originally Posted by clarissa25 View Post

      Everyone keeps talking about keywords. I have a question. When selection the title for an article I've heard that you should create a cool title that gets peoples attention. However that seems to contradict advice that says to create a long tail keyword title "one that peopel would actually search for. Do you just add words to end of the long tail keyword or something to make the title look appealing and different?
      Aha! A question I actually know the answer to! lol this just means to put your keyword phrase in the title. As long as you keep the phrase intact, then yes, you should add words around it to make a better title. For example, if your long tail keyword is "train a dog to fetch", you could make a more interesting title like "10 ways to train a dog to fetch like a pro".
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  • Profile picture of the author xtreme newbie
    Reading this thread was like taking a course on how to do internet marketing. Great, candid info and insights. I'm just learning affiliate marketing. To be as honest as everyone here - I already made some of the mistakes you mention here. Oops.

    But I now have a list of the ones I won't make because of the advice you shared here. Many thanks for taking the time to give your wisdom to newbies like me. Have to say, reading this was a fitting end to my first day on the WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Canyon
    Lack of focus seems to be an underlying issue here...

    That's because people don't have goals... You see we we're not
    designed to succeed in life but rather to survive...

    That's why we need to write down slightly out of reach achievable
    goals and posts them where our eyes glance at them a couple times each day.

    I have absolutely no idea why this works... but it does.

    Remember traffic, then list, then money... If you're not making any
    set traffic goals, if you've got list-building down set some targets there and
    if you've got money making down...

    How about telling others what you're doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanstreet
      Originally Posted by Rob Canyon View Post

      Lack of focus seems to be an underlying issue here...

      That's because people don't have goals... You see we we're not
      designed to succeed in life but rather to survive...

      I agree with this right here. The biggest mistake you can make is being busy and not productive. (someone else said that earlier as well).

      My mistake was distractions. My email was set to alerts, my IM window would keep beeping. My Skype, Iphone updates, Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc. were all keeping me from getting geared into work. And as soon as I did get geared, something else would distract me again.

      Don't get distracted. Turn everything off, (including the phone) set a timer, and do not stop for a smoke, walk, snack, etc. until that timer goes off. Block your sites from showing up during that time, (gmail has this built in) and just WORK!! You will find yourself getting things done in hours what used to take you weeks.

      And set goals. Have direction. And of course....

      HAVE FUN!!!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Allison_W
        Originally Posted by ryanstreet View Post

        I agree with this right here. The biggest mistake you can make is being busy and not productive. (someone else said that earlier as well).

        My mistake was distractions. My email was set to alerts, my IM window would keep beeping. My Skype, Iphone updates, Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc. were all keeping me from getting geared into work. And as soon as I did get geared, something else would distract me again.

        Don't get distracted. Turn everything off, (including the phone) set a timer, and do not stop for a smoke, walk, snack, etc. until that timer goes off. Block your sites from showing up during that time, (gmail has this built in) and just WORK!! You will find yourself getting things done in hours what used to take you weeks.

        And set goals. Have direction. And of course....

        HAVE FUN!!!!!
        This is my main problem. Take today for example I was meant to be setting up my ecommerce site but instead I have spent all day surfing the Warrior Forums! lol

        At the end of the day I'm tired, have sore eyes, haven't even logged on to my ecommerce site and have about 60 tabs opened on "can't live without" posts...

        I definitely need to rethink my plan of action.

        Kate
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        • Profile picture of the author Allison_W
          Even though I am a relative newbie I would still like to contribute my "mistakes" in the hope it helps other people starting out.

          a) DONT sign up to lots of opt-ins, be selective as all you end up doing it spending you whole time reading emails and being sucked into the latest must have.

          b) DONT join giveaways unless its really stuff you want as again you will just get flooded with emails. If you must join then set up a seperate email account just for these so you can keep these emails seperate from your real ones.

          c) Join this forum! I have learnt more these last few days than I have in months and have realised all the advice in most of the ebooks out there you can get here for free!

          d) Get a mentor or join a repitable membership site as what you can learn through the right mentor can be invaluable and save you months of reseach.

          I could go on and on but most of the others have been covered and I just wanted to but my 2 cents in.

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  • Profile picture of the author jacksonlin
    I say...

    Find a mentor that:

    1. Is successful
    2. Cares for your success

    Then... Do what you're told!

    =]
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  • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
    Oh, and one more thing.

    Don't rack up your post count by writing nothing but:

    Thanks for the information.

    Very good info.

    Thanks.

    Thanks you.

    Or jibberish posts that make no sense whatsoever.
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  • Profile picture of the author clarissa25
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    that's what I need a landing page. Unfortunately the whole autoresponder thing was a bit techie for me. and I got frustrated and didn't put one up....
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    • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
      Originally Posted by clarissa25 View Post

      that's what I need a landing page. Unfortunately the whole autoresponder thing was a bit techie for me. and I got frustrated and didn't put one up....
      Clarissa reminds me of another point.

      If the techie stuff is getting you down and you're just not understanding how to do it or you don't have the time to do it:

      * stop beating yourself up about it

      * stop wasting time trying to learn it

      * all of the time you are wasting could have been spent doing something more productive

      * outsource it so someone who knows what they are doing can get it set up for you

      * this frees up your time to do whatever you are good at -- creating products, marketing those products, etc.


      You don't have to be a jack-of-all-trades in this business.
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      • Profile picture of the author clarissa25
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        Originally Posted by Jillian Slack View Post

        Clarissa reminds me of another point.

        If the techie stuff is getting you down and you're just not understanding how to do it or you don't have the time to do it:

        * stop beating yourself up about it

        * stop wasting time trying to learn it

        * all of the time you are wasting could have been spent doing something more productive

        * outsource it so someone who knows what they are doing can get it set up for you

        * this frees up your time to do whatever you are good at -- creating products, marketing those products, etc.


        You don't have to be a jack-of-all-trades in this business.

        Oh my goodness that's sooo helpful. I did recently get a light bulb Idea. I went over to digital point and hired this guy he does little techie stuff for me for reaaally cheap even while I'm at my day job. I would have stayed up all night trying to figure out why my feedburner opt in form didn't work. Then I go to work in the morning send him a little PM and he's got in done in 5 minutes. Now I will start doing this more often. thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkWrites
    I would've started building my list, even multiple lists, sooner. Even for a site where you don't immediately know what you could offer to people who opt in. What happens is that six months from now you'll either come up with an idea or have an idea given to you, but if you haven't been building that list... there is no one to offer it to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Arlin Audrain
    I've been encouraged by reading this series of posts. I'm a year an a half old newbie with lots of scars. Just nearly at the end of the rope.
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    • Profile picture of the author DeePower
      Another mistake I made was avoiding setting goals and breaking the goals down into action plans. (How many times have I told our business plan clients they need to do that lol) I'd have it in my head but not put it on paper

      Then I'd get distracted and not do what needed to be done to achieve a goal.

      Right now I'm working on breaking into CPA. I'm a writer so promotion through articles isn't difficult for me. I selected a CPA offer in weight loss because I can write weight loss articles in my sleep at this point. I came up with a set of action plans that i do every day.

      Every day, I write an article. Post it to my blog. Ping the post. Socially bookmark the post using socialbot or onlywire. The next day I submit it to ezinearticles, articlemarketer.com and use articlebot. I use my keyword phrase as the link to the blog in the author bio. I research the next day's keywords for the next article and so it goes.

      I like static sites better than blogs so my personal finance sites get the same treatment. I found a CPA offer. Write an article using the keywords in the title of the article, once in the first paragraph and once at the end. I upload the article to my site using the keyword phrase in the meta title of the html page, in the meta tags, and as the <h1> title. I ping and bookmark. Submit it to ezinearticles and so forth.

      Every day. It takes about an hour and half. And it works. I'm getting paid for CPA leads and I've doubled the traffic on two of my sites in about a month.

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      • Profile picture of the author clarissa25
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        Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

        Another mistake I made was avoiding setting goals and breaking the goals down into action plans. (How many times have I told our business plan clients they need to do that lol) I'd have it in my head but not put it on paper

        Then I'd get distracted and not do what needed to be done to achieve a goal.

        Right now I'm working on breaking into CPA. I'm a writer so promotion through articles isn't difficult for me. I selected a CPA offer in weight loss because I can write weight loss articles in my sleep at this point. I came up with a set of action plans that i do every day.

        Every day, I write an article. Post it to my blog. Ping the post. Socially bookmark the post using socialbot or onlywire. The next day I submit it to ezinearticles, articlemarketer.com and use articlebot. I use my keyword phrase as the link to the blog in the author bio. I research the next day's keywords for the next article and so it goes.

        I like static sites better than blogs so my personal finance sites get the same treatment. I found a CPA offer. Write an article using the keywords in the title of the article, once in the first paragraph and once at the end. I upload the article to my site using the keyword phrase in the meta title of the html page, in the meta tags, and as the <h1> title. I ping and bookmark. Submit it to ezinearticles and so forth.

        Every day. It takes about an hour and half. And it works. I'm getting paid for CPA leads and I've doubled the traffic on two of my sites in about a month.

        Dee
        dee do you write the blog post about the cpa offer or something general and you just put the cpa link in your resource box when u submit the article to ezines?
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  • Profile picture of the author TTran
    I'd like to thank everyone posting advice on this thread and the threadmaker.

    Very good read =) I'm a newbie so I can't provide any advice sadly.
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    • Profile picture of the author clint48
      I didn't read all the treads so someone may have already said this, but I would have spent less time trying to make a bad niche good. I would have sent a couple hundred visitors to a product page in a niche, if I didn't have a sell I would have been looking for another niche and product.

      Clint
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  • Profile picture of the author big steve
    Buying program after program was my first mistake...getting caught up in the hype..you have to work at this business and can be very confusing in the beginning.
    Not everyone agrees on this but I personally feel finding a mentor really helps point you in the right direction. I mean I don't have a techie background like some so to have someone show me step by step has helped me immensely with this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ho
    I think my biggest mistake was waiting too long and spending too much time reading up on stuff when I could've put everything into action..
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  • Profile picture of the author wisecrone333
    Hi there,

    I just kept reading through the posts going "aha, aha" - it has made me realize there is so much stuff I am not doing right Lack of focus, easily distracted with WSOs and other products - I have a hard drive that is that choka I will be lucky if I get any work done -
    Well it is Sunday night my time , so first thing in the morning I am having a clear out and I am going to get a business model in place - thanks to those who mentioned the business focus, and the information overload, and the buying products you don't need - its no wonder I am not making any money with IM

    Best of wishes
    Lisa
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  • Profile picture of the author Pete Grantaire
    This is a great resource for newbies like myself. I knew I'd have to bookmark this thread a third of the way through the first page.

    The information about opt-in pages and email lists are especially enlightening. This is something I was considering implementing, but now I'm absolutely determined to.

    Thanks everybody!
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    • Profile picture of the author DeePower
      Clarissa said: dee do you write the blog post about the cpa offer or something general and you just put the cpa link in your resource box when u submit the article to ezines?

      The blog/website is focused on the cpa offer. I'll use weight loss as an example. I'll write about the product in pretty objective terms. What it is, how it works, why it works, benefits, and a bit about the negative aspects. The CPA offer is in the blog post/web page with text links and with small banners.

      I link to my blogin the bio box of the article using my best keyword phrase. I want my blog/website to pop up on the first page when anybody searches for that keyword phrase.

      The article uses a different but very related keyword phrase. I don't use the same one because I don't want my article competing with my blog/website. I'd much rather have people go right to my blog/website than to my article and then to my blog/website.

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      • Profile picture of the author DeePower
        thegreatlevelniche said: I have no idea what action I would even take. All I have is these words in my head: traffic, blogs, adsense, clickbank affiliate marketing.

        Step one pick a general niche.

        Step two refine the niche down

        Step three go to https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal and find keyword phrases that have at least 100 searches a day. I usually choose phrases that get around 10,000 searches a month, that's 300+ searches a day.

        Step four look at the CPC. To do that there is a drop down box that says choose columns to display. The first choice is "show/hide columns". Click on estimated average cpc. Choose keywords that have the highest average cpc and still meet your number of searches a month criteria. You'll be surprised at the difference one word can make in the cpc or the order of the words.

        Step five
        Make a list of those keywords.

        Step six
        Go to google search and search each set of keywords with and without quotes. What you want to find are words that have a high level of search and low competition. With quotes tells you the number of competitors that have your phrase.

        Okay that should get you going.

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        • Profile picture of the author Jermaine Tabor
          Some hard lessons I learned along the way is...

          1: Do Not Get Satisfied/Happy With One Successful Campaign even if it's making
          you thousands of dollars per week/month.

          If this campaign has to come to a complete stop for any reason you're out of
          business. Set a goal of at least 5 -10 separate successful campaigns and don't
          stop working until you have done this. Your bank account will be bigger if you do.


          2: Roll your successful ppc campaigns over into other search engines and test for
          more conversions. (Yahoo/Bing)

          If you don't then you are probably leaving money on the table. Keyword = Test

          3: Not building a list cost more than building one.

          After sending well over 100,000 prospects in one niche to a pre-sell page and then
          to a vendor I looked back one day to see what a horrible mistake this was. This niche
          needed other products as well and it would of cost me virtually nothing to email
          thousands of targeted people info they needed and wanted.

          Besides thousands more in lost sales, a separate ppc campaign would cost well over
          $20,000 usd again to reach the same market I had already accessed at a profit.


          4: Not figuring out what your time is really worth so you can outsource accordingly.

          Somethings are better off done by people who specialize in the technical stuff while
          you're better off specializing in growing your business. This is a real business!
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  • Profile picture of the author Les Tatum
    Biggest mistakes over the years are losing focus, info overload, and not picking something and sticking to it. Most online marketing methods you will find here will work with enough focus and tenacity. The way to avoid info overload and loss of focus is really just to pick something and stick with it until you become an expert at it. Work on that one thing until it becomes second nature so you don't have to do too much thinking about it. Break your tasks down into smaller portions to learn so you don't feel like you have to learn it all at once. Small steps taken with persistence lead to large distances being covered.

    Another huge mistake of mine in the past, and sometimes in the present too, is poor time management. It is very difficult to stay focused on something if you have no goals set and no schedule to stick to. Give yourself a time limit to get each thing done, set a date and time to have it finished and when that time comes, it's done. Good enough is good enough in most cases, people are looking for great content, they want to learn what you know. They are not gonna crucify you for a misspelling or grammatical error if you are providing them the info they are looking for. Use a timer for everything you do, that will keep you on track to meet your self imposed deadlines and will keep you conscious of how long it is taking you to do things. This is a big eye opener for some people, it is very easy to poopoo your time away "working" without being productive. I am guilty of that myself sometimes. As someone said earlier, sitting in front of your computer checking stats is not being productive. You should always be moving forward with whatever project you are working on. Don't check your email or check your stats until the task at hand is done and out there. You will be surprised how productive you can be when you are looking at a deadline counter ticking away in front of you!

    Ok one more, another huge mistake of mine in the past is not building a list right away. Whatever you do, whatever you are working on, and whatever niche you are in, start building your lists. I avoided list building for a long time then I realized that a list of prospects and buyers is one of the biggest marketing assets you can have online. You own your list and can market to them repeatedly, a good list will make your business much more effective. No matter what happens online, whatever websites shut down, however marketing evolves over time, or whatever old methods become ineffective, you own your list and you will have that asset to use to drive traffic and make sales.

    Also remember some marketing methods take a bit more time to show profits than others, if you are exclusively doing article marketing, keep in mind it does take some time for things to take hold sometimes. If you are paying for traffic results will naturally tend to be faster than generating it manually the old fashioned way.

    Just my 2 cents, hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyn Woodring
    Thank You for all this great advice. I do have a few questions that I hope can be clarified.
    It has been mentioned several times to find a business model and stick with that. What do you mean a business model? Could you some list several and the differences.
    I also have problems implementing and focusing with all the latest 'thing.'
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    • Profile picture of the author Les Tatum
      Originally Posted by Lyn Woodring View Post

      Thank You for all this great advice. I do have a few questions that I hope can be clarified.
      It has been mentioned several times to find a business model and stick with that. What do you mean a business model? Could you some list several and the differences.
      I also have problems implementing and focusing with all the latest 'thing.'
      Hi Lyn,

      A business model is basically what type of business you are trying to create and run. It's how you are trying to make money online. For example, creating adsense sites and driving traffic to them to generate clicks and earn money as your primary business is one model. Another model is creating niche sites and blogs to drive the sale of affiliate products. Another is creating and marketing your own products. Yet another is driving traffic to CPA offers. Another could be a service business such as ghostwriting. And the list goes on...

      A very common mistake people new to marketing make is trying to do it all and learn it all. I was guilty of it myself for years, I had more projects going at once than I could even keep up with. It all looks so appealing because there are so many people out there making tons of cash doing it but the big aha is that none of them would be making that kind of money if they tried to do it all at once. They pick one thing to focus on and get really good at, then only once they have that down and are making good money doing it do they look into related models.

      Pick one model such as affiliate marketing, or product creation and pick a method to promote it such as article marketing or social networking and get really good at that. When you break it down like that you only have a few things to learn to make money. For instance if you are going to use article marketing to drive traffic to your blog which then promotes affiliate products, you only have to get good at writing effective articles, spotting good affiliate products, and posting to your blog. Basically just become good at writing. Then once you have that down and you are getting some results, try adding more traffic methods such as social networking, etc one at a time until you are getting all the traffic you need. This may seem like it will take longer but the fact is that you will start getting results faster if you concentrate on little things until you have them down. Once you are making good money at affiliate marketing then maybe go into product creation by creating a product on affiliate marketing teaching others what you have learned.

      An analogy I like to use is throwing rocks. If your objective was to knock a hole in a wall, do you think you would get through that wall faster by throwing a hand full of rocks all at the same time and hoping they hit it hard enough somewhere to put a hole in it, or throwing one rock at a time and getting really good at hitting the same spot over and over until a hole forms?

      I'm not saying the examples I gave are the best to start with, just saying whatever method you are most interested in, get good at that first before you even think about doing anything else. Most methods work if you get good at them one at a time.

      A great tip that helped me is that when you are reading your emails or surfing the latest greatest sales pages, or whatever, don't pay attention to anything that isn't going to pertain directly to what you are doing right now. If you get sidetracked on the newest guru gadget, ask yourself "Is this going to help me right now to get better or faster results with what I am currently doing?" If the answer is no, move on and forget about it. It will only become more noise in your head confusing you more. You can't implement everything at once so why learn it all at once?

      I hope this has helped some, I know I tend to be a bit long winded. If you have more questions feel free to PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author kingofjames
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

    Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

    For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

    I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

    For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

    That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

    Dee
    I am somewhat of a newbie.........I see in the original post that you were able to determine the difference in CPC and Global Search on different keywords.... I have lost lots of money in not knowing how to use keywords........can someone point me in the direction of some materials that would teach me to use Adwords and to do it effectively?

    Thanks,

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    • Profile picture of the author Les Tatum
      Originally Posted by kingofjames View Post

      I am somewhat of a newbie.........I see in the original post that you were able to determine the difference in CPC and Global Search on different keywords.... I have lost lots of money in not knowing how to use keywords........can someone point me in the direction of some materials that would teach me to use Adwords and to do it effectively?

      Thanks,

      Jim King
      Hi Jim,

      Probably the best Adwords product I have read is Perry Marshall's Ultimate Guide To Google Adwords. It will teach you everything you need to get started in Adwords and it's a good read. It will also teach you how not to lose tons of cash in adwords. You can pick it up at Amazon for around 20 bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    DEE, you are so right. I still remember when "Diet Pills", was $3/click, but "weight loss tablets" was 50 cents per click. Considering I was doing 5% conversion it adds up quick. Of course now the trick is to get top listing on thousands of very long tail keywords.
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    I like this thread
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    • Profile picture of the author Tanika50
      Hi All,

      This is a very interesting thread. It would be great if ll the newbies and beginners like me would drop by and see some of the good advice given here.

      From reading through the posts, the main points seem to be:

      • Have the correct mindset, dedication, and focus
      • Learn what you need to get started....then get started!
      • Build a business plan so you have direction.
      • Find something which works for you. Not only in terms of your product or method of promotion, but also in terms of whom you listen to and the help/subscriptions you purchase. It's easy to be swayed by the latest offer. (ref: another post in this thread "...find a mentor and Do what you are told!")
      • Accept that perfection will only come from revising, rewriting, tweaking and repeating.
      • Accept that failure should breed success. So true in this business. When you have that failure, that's when the mindset and dedication need to click in. "Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again"
      I would also like to add a comment about how much time it all takes. I don't mean how much time it takes to be successful, but the time you need to spend on a daily basis, even with just one IM project in place. Be warned, you will need to commit a substantial amount of your day to your IM efforts. There is no doubt that time input is heaviest at the beginning of your project, as you research and research and find yourself up against lot of brick walls.

      Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
    I've only been a member here for 3 days, but have already learnt so much. I guess one of the main things I've picked up on is:

    Keep focus on one thing at a time

    The problem with some of the "Make $x,xxx per day with just x hours of work ever!" type offers is that they sound so amazing (and are marketed so brilliantly) that some people may jump from project to project.

    They may start a project (due to the promise of success and money), and within a week not see amazing results and move on.

    This is surely one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Sure, some business models and avenues are the wrong ones to follow. But I'm just saying that if you are following an already proven model, keep at it.

    Think of John/X-Factor from the "6 months later: $300 per day w/ Adsense" thread - he spend a relatively long amount of time (read: *not* simply a week or two) trying and sometimes not getting brilliant results. But his persistence paid off and he's now found an amazing method which is getting him $xxx per day.

    So I guess what I'd suggest is:

    "Persistence"
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  • Profile picture of the author MavisAA
    Don't spend all your money buying courses or products. Make sure you have enough money to advertise instead otherwise you will be frustrated. I know because I did that!

    Whether you are starting out as an affiliate or promoting your own products you will have to generate traffic one way or another in order to make sales!

    All the systems work you just have to choose one, believe it works and work it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tanika50
      Mavis,

      Have you found paid dvertising to be the best source of traffic for you?

      I assume you also use free methods like article writing etc...and of course building you list along the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
    Like Dee and Lee, not taking the keywords seriously. This is like putting a random digit on your front door just because it's a number - not even your own house number - and hoping people will find you. Also not backlinking to any great extent, which I could hardly have done successfully anyway with keyword-deprived anchor text.

    Doing things because I thought they were 'expected' by other people, like offering hosting with the websites I sold. I loved building websites, but hated being responsible for other people's up-time 24/7. These days I just sell the sites, and offer hosting through an affiliate link. If it's not 'expected' - by me - to make me happy, then it's not happening.

    Not reading the Warrior Forum a lot sooner. I encountered the forum a couple of times in the years before I joined, but it all seemed so over my head. If an eBook I read by Big Mike through pure chance one Christmas hadn't got me interested enough to pitch in, it would all still be going over my head now.

    Neglecting to use the narrow upholstery nozzle when hoovering my keyboard. You can really miss a colon key when you're writing php If I knew then how perilous housework could be, I'd have abandoned the whole sorry concept much earlier
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  • Profile picture of the author XFactor
    Originally Posted by DeePower View Post

    Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

    Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

    For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

    I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

    For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

    That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

    Dee
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    career.

    Mistakes are a god-send, if you use them right.

    You can't succeed without them.

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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    Making mistakes shows we are human lol...

    There is a thread some place here entitled soemthing like " do newbies have it easy these days" well today a person sent me a link to a new article to video system..I was blown away at how fast things are moving in on line marketing. What could be easier then pasting an article in to a screen adding graphix and with one click it converts the text in to audio; result a full blown professional marketing video in 3 minutes.

    With so many new marketers hitting the net, many software sellers are realising they need to make stuff real easy for the new starter..
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