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How to make nice money from the Internet quickly and easily.

by gjabiz
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It seems we get a variation of this question between 3 times and a 1000 times per week. And it always gets answered.

But, we can't answer it, because we don't know what it means.

"Nice money" (or big money, lots of money, loads of money, etc.) means what?

It may have a geographical connotation, nice money in USA could be 200 dollars a day to some, while in some countries, 200 dollars per week, or even 200 a month could be nice money.

So, ask your question (as hundreds of other people have done, and the forum does have a search feature too)...and tell us what you mean by "nice money".

Quick and easy. What does it mean? Almost every one of these posts is going to have a response,

"it is SIMPLE, but it is not easy". We don't know what that means either, because we are all different and Warriors have a tendency to express their personal journey, their experience as THE way to do it...but there are lots of successful Warriors, each one has done it "his/her" way, a way which may not suit you at all.

What may be easy for me, could be a struggle for you.

Tell us what, if anything, you bring to the game, in the ways of skills, talents, abilities or desire.

What do you think you may want to do? Have you set a goal? What are your resources?

There are answers here, in the archives, or buried in one of the thousands of threads on the same subject...which could help you get what you want...

quickly and easily (whatever that means to you)

IF you know what you want. Even those in desperate need of money have been given scores of answers, and tested and proven methods to get out of desperation.

Help us, the experienced Warrior, who may have some help for you...to help you by giving us

ENOUGH INFORMATION to work with, or else just be prepared to hear the same generic answers to the same questions we get day after day, year after year.

IF you want to extract useful advice and information from the WF, then give us a little help with what you need, and you might be surprised.

I don't know what quick, easy, simple and "nice money" mean, if you do, please share, OK?

gjabiz

PS. And a few days spent with the search feature and going through the forums, will do you a world of good too, if for no other reason than to get you familiar with how things work around here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    I'm not sure the askers even want an answer.

    It WOULD be helpful if people would define their terms.

    As for the rest...skill level, goals, targets, resources...I'm not holding my breath. Most want something for nothing, as evidenced by the teeny amount of "information" they put into their posts and effort they put into looking for a solution prior to writing it.

    We can tell a whole lot about the seriousness level of the questioner, and how much they've tried before posting, by what they say in their post. And most often that ain't a whole lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      But we don't know if they want an answer or not, do we?

      I'm unwilling to lump all Warriors, or even the majority into one heap of those that "want something for nothing"...some of that is the fault of the many WSO's which make it sound like that is what IM is all about.

      Many of them have read promotions written by skilled salesmen, such as yourself, who have persuaded them it is easy.

      I'm not going to make those assumptions about anyone, until proven otherwise.

      And we both have recently seen a few posters who were insincere and simply wanted to see their name up, or whatever.

      But, for now, I'm willing to give the new person some benefit of the doubt, and think they just don't know any better.

      I don't feel that most Warriors are asking for "something for nothing".

      gjabiz


      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      I'm not sure the askers even want an answer.

      It WOULD be helpful if people would define their terms.

      As for the rest...skill level, goals, targets, resources...I'm not holding my breath. Most want something for nothing, as evidenced by the teeny amount of "information" they put into their posts and effort they put into looking for a solution prior to writing it.

      We can tell a whole lot about the seriousness level of the questioner, and how much they've tried before posting, by what they say in their post. And most often that ain't a whole lot.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

        But we don't know if they want an answer or not, do we?

        I'm unwilling to lump all Warriors, or even the majority into one heap of those that "want something for nothing"...some of that is the fault of the many WSO's which make it sound like that is what IM is all about.

        Many of them have read promotions written by skilled salesmen, such as yourself, who have persuaded them it is easy.

        I'm not going to make those assumptions about anyone, until proven otherwise.

        And we both have recently seen a few posters who were insincere and simply wanted to see their name up, or whatever.

        But, for now, I'm willing to give the new person some benefit of the doubt, and think they just don't know any better.

        I don't feel that most Warriors are asking for "something for nothing".

        gjabiz
        I never say it's going to be easy. And I have lost many buyers over the years because a) I care that they actually use what they buy, and b) I tell them up front it's going to be WORK. So that line is not at all accurate.

        I don't think you accurately read what I wrote.

        My stats fully demonstrate that when someone shows that they want help and are really trying to get somewhere, I help them. (As do yours, for that matter.)

        And blaming the attitude here on copywriters is ridiculous. You have it in reverse. The attitude precedes the copy. Anyone dumb enough to fall for "instant riches" is a fool and deserves what they get.

        In 2012 we had a different crowd here. More people realized work would be involved. Since then, that crowd has moved on, and been replaced by spammers and lazy dreamers. Instead of it being say 1 in 100 who understand work and commitment are necessary, it's now more like 1 in 500. I am still out to help that individual.
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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          I pointed out your skills, as a salesman persuader, not YOUR work.

          AND, you do help, no doubt about it. Just recently in a sub-forum, you pointed out to me, my response was made to a "goofball" (my term).

          I took him at face value, not knowing he was posting in the main forum, and, was, well a goofball, in my opinion. And your observation was appreciated.

          And that goes to my point, which is I am trying to answer questions at face value, not knowing if the poster wants something for nothing, is a goofball or a Time Waster, until there is some proof established, I continue in that direction.

          And I'm not blaming attitude on copy, I'm saying I don't believe this "new" crowd is any more insincere or seeking something for nothing any more than the old crowd was...this new influx is bringing on a lot more people in many different countries, many whom have never been exposed to copy used in IM or to the idea of IM as a way to make money at all, so, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt too.

          Are they less educated than the people here in 2012? I don't know, but it does appear they have less western (American) knowledge than those of yesteryear.

          But I do take issue with the idea that people are "dumb" when they fall for "instant riches", many an educated American have fallen for scams and have made silly investments based upon the copy of a gifted writer.

          I think a very small % are immune to the appeals made in a lot of copy, people being people, and not DUMB, have fallen for Bernie Madoff type Ponzie schemes, Don LaPre, Kevin Trudeau and a host of other scamsters long before there was a Warrior Forum or the Internet.

          In fact, some of the most popular forums in the 1990's had to do with revealing the scams, which many people fell for.

          Our difference, really Jason, is that I'm willing to give the noob the benefit of the doubt, and you seem, and if I'm wrong correct me...

          you seem to think most or many want something for nothing, other than that, I think we agree on most of the other stuff.

          gjabiz


          Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

          I never say it's going to be easy. And I have lost many buyers over the years because a) I care that they actually use what they buy, and b) I tell them up front it's going to be WORK. So that line is not at all accurate.

          I don't think you accurately read what I wrote.

          My stats fully demonstrate that when someone shows that they want help and are really trying to get somewhere, I help them. (As do yours, for that matter.)

          And blaming the attitude here on copywriters is ridiculous. You have it in reverse. The attitude precedes the copy. Anyone dumb enough to fall for "instant riches" is a fool and deserves what they get.

          In 2012 we had a different crowd here. More people realized work would be involved. Since then, that crowd has moved on, and been replaced by spammers and lazy dreamers. Instead of it being say 1 in 100 who understand work and commitment are necessary, it's now more like 1 in 500. I am still out to help that individual.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Just as an add-on to the OP, sometimes the forum's own search function can be a little wonky.

            If a forum search isn't working for you, try Google (or Yahoo or Bing) and add "site:www.warriorforum.com" (no quotes) to your search query.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
            Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

            I pointed out your skills, as a salesman persuader, not YOUR work.

            AND, you do help, no doubt about it. Just recently in a sub-forum, you pointed out to me, my response was made to a "goofball" (my term).

            I took him at face value, not knowing he was posting in the main forum, and, was, well a goofball, in my opinion. And your observation was appreciated.

            And that goes to my point, which is I am trying to answer questions at face value, not knowing if the poster wants something for nothing, is a goofball or a Time Waster, until there is some proof established, I continue in that direction.

            And I'm not blaming attitude on copy, I'm saying I don't believe this "new" crowd is any more insincere or seeking something for nothing any more than the old crowd was...this new influx is bringing on a lot more people in many different countries, many whom have never been exposed to copy used in IM or to the idea of IM as a way to make money at all, so, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt too.

            Are they less educated than the people here in 2012? I don't know, but it does appear they have less western (American) knowledge than those of yesteryear.

            But I do take issue with the idea that people are "dumb" when they fall for "instant riches", many an educated American have fallen for scams and have made silly investments based upon the copy of a gifted writer.

            I think a very small % are immune to the appeals made in a lot of copy, people being people, and not DUMB, have fallen for Bernie Madoff type Ponzie schemes, Don LaPre, Kevin Trudeau and a host of other scamsters long before there was a Warrior Forum or the Internet.

            In fact, some of the most popular forums in the 1990's had to do with revealing the scams, which many people fell for.

            Our difference, really Jason, is that I'm willing to give the noob the benefit of the doubt, and you seem, and if I'm wrong correct me...

            you seem to think most or many want something for nothing, other than that, I think we agree on most of the other stuff.

            gjabiz
            Thank you for this well thought-out response.

            I do!

            However...the MOMENT a person rises above the muck, so to speak, and demonstrates they have put in a little effort (or a lot) in helping themselves...I am ready to help them as much as I can. I have given people free products, free coaching, and obviously plenty of advice by posting here.

            I am delighted to see anyone really trying.

            Yes, I do think most want something for nothing...feel that they are owed something...and aren't willing to work. This is from the evidence of working with people for the past 4 years online, mostly in forums and on Facebook.

            Believe me, I would be so happy if it were otherwise. But most posts...they show so little care that I just move on.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Cypher
              Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

              Our difference, really Jason, is that I'm willing to give the noob the benefit of the doubt, and you seem, and if I'm wrong correct me...

              you seem to think most or many want something for nothing, other than that, I think we agree on most of the other stuff.
              Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

              Yes, I do think most want something for nothing...feel that they are owed something...and aren't willing to work.
              @gjabiz Jason is 100% right on this.

              Unfortunately I have to disagree with you.

              What the bigger picture really is... isn't the 'Warrior Forum'. It isn't the IM/MMO crowd. You are generalizing like there is a difference in most direct response marketing. Look at 95% of all the products out there... doesn't matter if its:
              1. Make Money
              2. Investing
              3. Health
              4. Weight Loss
              5. Diabetes
              6. ED
              7. Language Learning
              8. Golf
              9. Relationships
              10. ... Whatever else you can think of!

              EVERY one of these are bound by the same sales tactics (that work mind you) that are usually based off of speed and ease of use. I'll run by every single one of these with examples:
              1. Make $X in 15 Minutes a Day / Start a Business in a Box in 30 Days
              2. Download this Software and Let it Trade for You - Guaranteed 200% Profits
              3. Build Muscle and Get Ripped without a Gym or Training
              4. Lose 30 lbs in a Month Without Leaving Your Home
              5. Take this Simple Pill and Watch Your Diabetes Leave Your Body
              6. Do this Solo Activity for 10 Minutes a Day and Your ED will be Cured
              7. Listen to these tapes while you sleep and learn ___ overnight
              8. Watch my Pro-Videos and Instantly Add 30 Yards to Your Swing
              9. Learn the Tao of Whatever and Get Women to Swarm to You - No Rejection

              The point I'm trying to make is the buyers market (in almost every niche) is made up of mostly people who are unwilling to do the work themselves. It's not generalized to the IM/MMO crowd, or to the Warrior Forum.

              People WANT everything for nothing. That's why some WSOs do give out the full blueprint of people's business... because it's the assumption that 90% won't take action.
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              • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
                I may have to stand corrected. But, for now, I'm still unwilling to accept absolutes...but I may be wrong.

                Thanks,

                gjabiz





                Originally Posted by The Cypher View Post

                @gjabiz Jason is 100% right on this.

                Unfortunately I have to disagree with you.

                What the bigger picture really is... isn't the 'Warrior Forum'. It isn't the IM/MMO crowd. You are generalizing like there is a difference in most direct response marketing. Look at 95% of all the products out there... doesn't matter if its:
                1. Make Money
                2. Investing
                3. Health
                4. Weight Loss
                5. Diabetes
                6. ED
                7. Language Learning
                8. Golf
                9. Relationships
                10. ... Whatever else you can think of!

                EVERY one of these are bound by the same sales tactics (that work mind you) that are usually based off of speed and ease of use. I'll run by every single one of these with examples:
                1. Make in 15 Minutes a Day / Start a Business in a Box in 30 Days
                2. Download this Software and Let it Trade for You - Guaranteed 200% Profits
                3. Build Muscle and Get Ripped without a Gym or Training
                4. Lose 30 lbs in a Month Without Leaving Your Home
                5. Take this Simple Pill and Watch Your Diabetes Leave Your Body
                6. Do this Solo Activity for 10 Minutes a Day and Your ED will be Cured
                7. Listen to these tapes while you sleep and learn ___ overnight
                8. Watch my Pro-Videos and Instantly Add 30 Yards to Your Swing
                9. Learn the Tao of Whatever and Get Women to Swarm to You - No Rejection

                The point I'm trying to make is the buyers market (in almost every niche) is made up of mostly people who are unwilling to do the work themselves. It's not generalized to the IM/MMO crowd, or to the Warrior Forum.

                People WANT everything for nothing. That's why some WSOs do give out the full blueprint of people's business... because it's the assumption that 90% won't take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    People want overnight riches. We're in an age of instant gratification. People don't want to put in work, they want results fast and quick. It's sad but true, and I also think marketers as a whole are partly to blame. We sell the dream. We make it look easier than it really is.
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