The LIES about making money...and a thought!

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So I see a lot of super-cool offers claiming you earn this and that..,

But what people seem to sometimes forget is that MONEY takes TIME and EFFORT to start producing if you're just starting out or have been in the game for quite a while and not made any (not as much as you'd hope).

So I wanted to share a few hard earned lessons in moneymaking...

Reading this will be confusing, as this is more of a mindset, rather than actual concrete tips on WHAT to do. Regardless, this IS the first step to attracting money into your life!

1) CHANGE - In order to START making any amount of money, YOU need to change (internally/philosophically). What I mean by that is your subconscious self talk that goes around in your head about your relation to YOURSELF...and the relation YOU think & feel you have about money.

Weather you think/feel you deserve it or not. This "belief" has to change. And with change comes feelings and thoughts of pain. Thus a lot of people do not want to do it because it's too hard.

This is the FIRST thing you have to do in order to receive it later.

2) SOWING & REAPING - You can't expect not to insert any effort, time or money in anything to get anything. Balance in life is inevitable. FIRST comes work, THEN rewards.

3) SACRIFICE - Yes! You NEED to give up something for something! There's only 24h to a day. Find a somewhat "useless" activity you are engaged in that doesn't get you closer to wherever you want to be and scrap it (however slow or fast you want to learn it/insert time into it, will dictate what you scrap).

4) HUMBLE & OPEN - To be open minded about what others say. Consider EACH source, BEFORE making ANY type of decision!

5) EXPERIENCE - In order to get what you want, you need to gain in-depth first hand experience to understand the intricacies of anything.

6) AFFILIATION - No. I'm not talking about affiliate marketing, promotion etc...I'm talking about finding mentors & people that ARE currently BETTER than you in any field you wish to penetrate.

7) REASON WHY - Finding a motivational trigger will give you the energy to fight for your cause, BUT...it will however NOT give you endurability forever (unless it's a really, REALLY STRONG reason why).

8) TEST - ALWAYS test stuff out for yourself! Even if people say it works for them! What works for the other guy might not work for you.

9) GIVE TO RECEIVE - Pay it forward man.

10) RESPECT - Respect yourself, people and money and they and it, will respect you.

11) NEUTRALITY - Everything in life is neutral. There is no right or wrong. But there is MORALITY.

12) GO YOUR OWN WAY - Leadership is a blessing and a curse, when you do something as a leader you'll sometimes get scolded by people. KEEP your head high and follow your true path in life you've chosen. No matter what happens or whom you might offend!

13) BE THE LEADER - To become one, YOU need to start following yourself first in any decision you make. Confidence comes from experience doing a specific action. Doing it lots of times gives you situational confidence.

14) SELF CONFIDENCE & SELF-ESTEEM - This is something that gets confused & combined as ONE...A LOT! But they are NOT the same! Self confidence comes from situational confidence (meaning if you've been in a situation a few million times, you'll have 100% self confidence!). You have 100% self esteem when you are born! No one can take that away from you! No one but yourself!

15) CHALLENGE - Be skeptical about everything. I don't know about paranoia though...

16) NON-APOLOGETIC - I'm sorry...this should probably not be in here...

17) ENJOY YOURSELF - Have fun, because this isn't work! It's YOUR VISION!

18) REWARD YOURSELF - Do it for everything you accomplish, because you deserve it.

19) STEP BACK - Take a breather once in a while to get away from it all. Get fresh new perspective on things by walking away and do other things. Sometimes it's better to come back to it later.

20) SYSTEMISE - Find out what works for you, then replicate it...then create a system for it.

Just my 2 cents...

Hope someone finds this useful

If you'd like to show your appreciation or share a thought...are welcome to do so.

Have a really nice day
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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    If only there was a system that no matter how hard you tried you couldn't fail then you'd need none of the bs above.
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    • Profile picture of the author Denise Hall
      Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

      If only there was a system that no matter how hard you tried you couldn't fail then you'd need none of the bs above.
      When you find that magic button, make sure you share it with everyone, ok?
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      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
        The WSO section is full of magic buttons. You just click them and it takes your money
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

      If only there was a system that no matter how hard you tried you couldn't fail then you'd need none of the bs above.
      No BS above.

      I know its not anything new but for some like you it would serve you wisely to take heed of some of these important Notions the OP points out


      - Robert Andrew
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        No BS above.

        I know its not anything new but for some like you it would serve you wisely to take heed of some of these important Notions the OP points out


        - Robert Andrew
        Problem is, mindset stuff looks like mumbo jumbo to newbies.

        They think they have to go out and beat the bushes.

        Sure, you have to take action...but WHAT action?

        If you're sitting there thinking, "I suck, nobody wants anything from me," then WHO are you going to approach, WHAT problem are you going to try and solve for them, and HOW hard are you really going to try? (That's why $7 "solutions" sell so well to these folks, when a real business owner moves away from the cheap, hyped answer.)

        So you find yourself trying to sell junk solutions to people who don't have a genuine problem, and you're trying to do it with lame "foot in the door" technique.

        Surprise, it doesn't work.

        Beat some lousy bushes, get lousy results.

        You mindset = your imagination, and that determines what level you play at. If you think you're not great, you won't even approach serious prospects.

        The real problem, though, is that those stuck in the low level mindset truly cannot see the higher level possibilities. They can't for the life of them understand how changing your mind about the problem changes the freaking problem! (No less a personage than Einstein had a couple quotes about that.)

        Hint: because changing your mind changes the possibilities of what you will DO. This IS action-oriented, because we're not Buddhist monks or Indian Fakirs, and we have to ground this stuff in "reality."

        Only occasionally does the curtain fall aside a bit, allowing a peep into the next higher level of interpretation.

        If you want a hard science explanation for this, look up Reticular Activating System. Our brains are taking millions of incoming data bits every second and filtering them down to a few hundred it has been trained are important to us.

        Do ya think maybe your poorly trained RAS is screening out a TON of information? Data that would help you, but doesn't fit your idea of How Things Work? (I know mine is!)

        The world is not "Go Get Coconuts." "Urg. Grog go get coconuts, bang tree until coconuts fall," That is the lowest, most physical and least elegant way of doing things. It's slow, and it doesn't get you much. Yet this is where most people are at. "Where's the system? Show me the moon! How can I make a million dollars by doing next to nothing?"

        As I write this, an event I would strongly like to happen is moving closer and closer to me. First it was months away. Then it was booked for a week from now. Yesterday I got a call that they moved it to this Saturday at 1PM. And just now they called asking if I could come in at 9AM. Do you think this is just an accident? Random chance? No. It's mindset and focus in ACTION, plain and simple.
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      • Profile picture of the author quadagon
        Originally Posted by Denise Hall View Post

        When you find that magic button, make sure you share it with everyone, ok?
        It's the wording from the op's SIG which is art the heart of the issue. How can someone have a sig peddling such nonsense about never failing system and expect any credibility for the post.

        Hopefully people reading this will start to check their posts and ask if its congruent to their sig.

        It's hypocracy of the highest order to try and sell quick hit easy system and preach about hard work.

        Originally Posted by esmarshall View Post

        if only there was less "muppets" like quadragon who spend time tryna look smart with pointless sarcasm and more people who are backing the online marketing cause and helping other marketers in the community
        You forgot to start your post with 'I don't posts on here often'

        You can be rest assured that for as long as their are bullshit merchants I will be here to call them out. I'll also continue to help those I can with real world experience and scientifically proven information.

        Originally Posted by Tomas Gabriel View Post

        Weather you think/feel you deserve it or not. This "belief" has to change. And with change comes feelings and thoughts of pain. Thus a lot of people do not want to do it because it's too hard.

        So let's assume I think and feel that I deserve money then I have to change my belief? That can't be right


        4) HUMBLE & OPEN - To be open minded about what others say. Consider EACH source, BEFORE making ANY type of decision!

        I would imagine from this you've not spent time around millionaires and top business people. Whilst I like the premise the reality is that these people are self confident bordering on egomaniacal. Look at Trump, Gates, Jobs etc. These are humble people and are very one visioned.


        6) AFFILIATION - No. I'm not talking about affiliate marketing, promotion etc...I'm talking about finding mentors & people that ARE currently BETTER than you in any field you wish to penetrate.

        good luck with this in the real world. How many people do you think will get mentored off a trump? You are going to have to be on the payroll to sit under that learning tree. It's advice I see a lot on here mainly from people peddling membership sites or mentor schemes.

        9) GIVE TO RECEIVE - Pay it forward
        this is interesting and it has a cult like following. It's not something you really see in the real world. Apple have never given me a free iPhone. I would say give cause its a good thing to do. Don't give to recieve I think that motivation is a bit shitty

        10) RESPECT - Respect yourself, people and money and they and it, will respect you.
        respect those who deserve respect but don't give idiots and fools your respect it cheapens the rest of the respect you give. Also money doesn't give respect respect it as much as you would a table lamp or a toilet roll holder

        11) NEUTRALITY - Everything in life is neutral. There is no right or wrong. But there is MORALITY.

        well this is just wrong there is right and wrong. Sadly again this week we have proof of this

        15) CHALLENGE - Be skeptical about everything. I don't know about paranoia though...

        especially on here. Generally read their SIG first then read their post

        20) SYSTEMISE - Find out what works for you, then replicate it...then create a system for it.

        for some offline businesses this is great advice, look at Burger King and McDonalds. It's not a universal though and because this works for one business doesn't mean it will work for all. It might work for me but not you and vice versa

        Have a really nice day
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        • Profile picture of the author esmarshall
          You forgot to start your post with 'I don't posts on here often'

          You can be rest assured that for as long as their are bullshit merchants I will be here to call them out. I'll also continue to help those I can with real world experience and scientifically proven information.
          there you go again...pretending to be clever

          if you check the number of posts from the join date (alot less than you in the same period btw)...it kinda goes without saying really

          id rather do real things with my time, like actually making money and then go out and enjoy the money

          i don't have the time to sit around on the warrior forum "calling out" the bullshit merchants

          but maybe you do cause you've got nothing else going for you....who knows
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          • Profile picture of the author quadagon
            Originally Posted by esmarshall View Post

            there you go again...pretending to be clever

            if you check the number of posts from the join date (alot less than you in the same period btw)...it kinda goes without saying really

            id rather do real things with my time, like actually making money and then go out and enjoy the money

            i don't have the time to sit around on the warrior forum "calling out" the bullshit merchants

            but maybe you do cause you've got nothing else going for you....who knows
            There you go again drawing false conclusions from data.

            The amount of posts I have has no correlation to time spent on the WF. All of the posts could have been done in a couple hours over a course of months or years.

            At the same time you could sit here 24 hours a day waiting to fill your six slots just cause you 'don't post often' don't mean you ain't here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tomas Gabriel
          Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

          It's the wording from the op's SIG which is art the heart of the issue. How can someone have a sig peddling such nonsense about never failing system and expect any credibility for the post.

          Hopefully people reading this will start to check their posts and ask if its congruent to their sig.

          It's hypocracy of the highest order to try and sell quick hit easy system and preach about hard work.



          You forgot to start your post with 'I don't posts on here often'

          You can be rest assured that for as long as their are bullshit merchants I will be here to call them out. I'll also continue to help those I can with real world experience and scientifically proven information.
          The sig file is correct.

          If you'd bother looking, you'd discover that this system is about mindset about money and the prep work you need to do DURING your quest for success.

          Why you'll never fail again IS actually BECAUSE of what you'll learn in this program. Failure is a point of view my friend. I never think that I've failed, I've just learned ways that didn't work...as a wise man once said. When you're done with this program, you'll never feel/think of failure as failure. That's one of the benefits.

          I constantly question the programs that promise riches by saying it's easy, no work required and quick. This is not the case here, sorry to disappoint
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      Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

      If only there was a system that no matter how hard you tried you couldn't fail then you'd need none of the bs above.
      You forgot that there are muppets who judge the quality of the original post by its length alone. Sure it was a lengthy post. You should have started with tearing it apart piece by piece.
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  • Profile picture of the author esmarshall
    if only there was less "muppets" like quadragon who spend time tryna look smart with pointless sarcasm and more people who are backing the online marketing cause and helping other marketers in the community
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  • Profile picture of the author Humbee360
    Nice post, hard to argue with the logic, though I am sure someone will,

    It would be a great thing to see more people that actually engage in online business like they would if they were standing face to face with the customer.

    That may be one of the things that makes it so much easier to not care about selling a product that they know upfront, may not be effective.

    I know that there are situations that prevent people from becoming successful.

    As a product creator, the first thing I do is to evaluate the need and then test out the solution until it works perfectly every time or at least so much better than anyone else.

    One thing I would love to see more often online is products that promote creativity instead of copy pasting a system of duplication.

    I honestly do not think that copying a "System" is a valid business model.

    Creating a system is also not really the best way to help other marketers succeed.

    Its a complex thing but it does not really have to be that way...
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    • Profile picture of the author oadvantage
      "It would be a great thing to see more people that actually engage in online business like they would if they were standing face to face with the customer. "

      Good point.

      Also, some of the tactics that work online would never work face to face.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by Tomas Gabriel View Post

    11) NEUTRALITY - Everything in life is neutral. There is no right or wrong.

    Thomas,

    Thank you for your thoughts. For the most part, I agree. But number 11 doesn't ring true to me at all.

    I believe there is right and wrong. I have seen the effects of making choices between right and wrong in my own life and they are very real. Those choices have nothing to do with morality, really, they are choices between what I have learned as being right compared to wrong choices.

    When I choose to come to a stop at a red light . . . that is a "right" choice.
    When I choose to exercise my body . . . that is a "right" choice in order for me to get the result I want.
    When I choose to not lay my hand on the red hot burner on my stove . . . that is a "right" choice.

    I certainly have the free agency to make wrong choices in all the examples above . . . but that would not be in my best self interest according to what I know and understand.

    If you want to achieve certain results in life, you have to make "right" choices. You can certainly choose not to make the choices that lead to desired outcomes, but then you have no choice about the consequences of your actions.

    Just my two cents . . .

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    • Profile picture of the author Tomas Gabriel
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      Thomas,

      Thank you for your thoughts. For the most part, I agree. But number 11 doesn't ring true to me at all.

      I believe there is right and wrong. I have seen the effects of making choices between right and wrong in my own life and they are very real. Those choices have nothing to do with morality, really, they are choices between what I have learned as being right compared to wrong choices.

      When I choose to come to a stop at a red light . . . that is a "right" choice.
      When I choose to exercise my body . . . that is a "right" choice in order for me to get the result I want.
      When I choose to not lay my hand on the red hot burner on my stove . . . that is a "right" choice.

      I certainly have the free agency to make wrong choices in all the examples above . . . but that would not be in my best self interest according to what I know and understand.

      If you want to achieve certain results in life, you have to make "right" choices. You can certainly choose not to make the choices that lead to desired outcomes, but then you have no choice about the consequences of your actions.

      Just my two cents . . .

      Steve
      Hi Steve

      If we're talking about survival choices or illegal wrongdoings, I agree. Working out is YOUR choice. It's not wrong or right. But it IS for YOU. Others might not agree. But the neutrality of stuff that happens to us, to cause us to feel "bad" or "good" is neutral and perspective/mindset-based and determines how you react to it. So thinking and feeling that everything is neutral IS a better mindset to have in life.

      You don't have to agree. It's not my place to judge. I'm happier because of it, I get things done I'm afraid of because of it, so this is MY choice. Each one of us can either choose to be happy/confident etc...or not. That's what this mindset is for
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    I especially like number 12) - because I too experienced something when I taught a unique way NOT taught in the usual way. Some people have a hard time believing..
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I have to agree with Quadagon. The sig says
    What if you couldn't fail again…EVER?! No matter how hard you tried! What if you were guaranteed 99% success rate of your highest goals? Check out this revolutionary site for your ABSOLUTE success!
    IF, no matter how hard you tried, you couldn't fail ever again, then you don't need to systematize, a mentor, be humble, work hard, or anything else the OP listed. Why? Because even if you didn't do any of those things you could never fail.

    While many of the points in the OP are good, necessary, helpful, etc. the disconnect between the post and the sig is exactly the same as those who come in claiming in their sig to be able to help you make big bucks by noon Friday but they are asking in their post about how to get traffic or how to earn some money before the power bill is due.

    Tone down the hype. There is NO system that eliminates failure forever. But since you are claiming there is, then don't waste precious time and bandwidth espousing hard work, becoming a leader, etc.

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    • Profile picture of the author Tomas Gabriel
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I have to agree with Quadagon. The sig says

      IF, no matter how hard you tried, you couldn't fail ever again, then you don't need to systematize, a mentor, be humble, work hard, or anything else the OP listed. Why? Because even if you didn't do any of those things you could never fail.

      While many of the points in the OP are good, necessary, helpful, etc. the disconnect between the post and the sig is exactly the same as those who come in claiming in their sig to be able to help you make big bucks by noon Friday but they are asking in their post about how to get traffic or how to earn some money before the power bill is due.

      Tone down the hype. There is NO system that eliminates failure forever. But since you are claiming there is, then don't waste precious time and bandwidth espousing hard work, becoming a leader, etc.

      Mark
      Great point Mark!

      I agree!

      That's where the #11 comes in, neutrality.

      Which is why you'll never see failure as failure again. And that's why you'll never fail again! In turn it will make you only succeed. Ask yourself what you associate failure with?

      I NEVER EVER see or feel that I've failed. I only see things that need to improve. And that's the saddest part with those get rich quick and snake oil programs...that they don't inform people that it DOES take time effort and skill to pull it off. What you need is 1) Mindset 2) A system 3) A sequential way the system works in synergy with mindset and action.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
    Thank for the great post. I told a lot of people the same thing. It seems, now a day, people want easy money without doing work. I am sure a lot of people specially newbie will get a lot of help from this great post.
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  • Profile picture of the author kennyd3
    Good pointer Tomas. Could not have said it better.
    Hopefully your opinion would not scare newbies into trying the "laptop lifestyle" if possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      I have to agree with both quadragon and Mark Singletary.

      The entire premise of the OP's post contradicts what he's promising and selling in his sig. He's already guaranteeing that you can't fail with his product, "no matter how hard you try". So why the need for the "lecture" (besides the obvious, which is getting eyes on his sig)...

      Not to mention these two gems:

      Everything in life is neutral. There is no right or wrong.
      Seriously?

      If you'd like to show your appreciation or share a thought...are welcome to do so.
      Sounds like someone who's hoping to get a lot of "thanks" from other members, which is pretty amusing considering his admonishment in #4 to be humble...
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      • Profile picture of the author Tomas Gabriel
        Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

        I have to agree with both quadragon and Mark Singletary.

        The entire premise of the OP's post contradicts what he's promising and selling in his sig. He's already guaranteeing that you can't fail with his product, "no matter how hard you try". So why the need for the "lecture" (besides the obvious, which is getting eyes on his sig)...

        Not to mention these two gems:

        Seriously?

        Sounds like someone who's hoping to get a lot of "thanks" from other members, which is pretty amusing considering his admonishment in #4 to be humble...
        Of course! This is marketing. I'm not a monk man
        Humble doesn't mean you can't market & sell yourself or your services. Humble means to not put people down and to be respectful to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Re: the right or wrong thing...

    It depends on what level of consciousness you're operating at.

    I don't feel I'm going to change anyone's mind, since most of you are merely looking for confirmation of what you already believe to be true.

    It's also probably just going to draw fire from the sort of people who enjoy doing that kind of thing.

    But maybe there's one or two folks out there in a "slushy" state on this idea.

    The statement/question opens up an entire philosophical and epistomological discussion only a few here are truly prepared to participate in. The deepest level of "Hey, what's this 'life' stuff made of?" talk I've seen most people have are shallow, pot-induced high school reflections such as "Woah, what if the Earth suddenly tilted this way?" "Wow, those cars would be over here then..."

    Much of this comes from WHO you believe you are.

    "I'm a single parent from an abusive family who grew up in a low income area and that's why I'm poor."

    Really?

    No, that's the BS story you've been telling yourself.

    BTW you can also say, with complete self-validity, "I'm a single parent from an abusive family who grew up in a low income area and that's why I'm a SUCCESS."

    "...there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." ~Hamlet, Shakespeare.

    An interesting way of viewing life is as a computer program. The Matrix did a fair job at this, but we can look at a deeper level. We have certainly seen evidence the universe is a hologram.

    I strongly encourage you to read two books: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. And in that order.

    The ideas they offer may stimulate you; in fact, you may find yourself believing some of them.

    Funny thing: Rand's world view still works, even if Pirsig's is true.

    The structured world of Atlas Shrugged operates just fine on top of Zen's proton cloud existence.

    In other words, both can be TRUE.

    How can this be??

    Existence is a weird thing...it allows you to believe what you want.

    Some "rules" like our old nemesis 'Fire burns human flesh' do seem to be immutable but I'm not so sure. It could be mass belief that gives credence to the idea. Meaning it gains its power from people believing it.

    What happens on the other side of the universe? I don't know. I can't even say with certainty there aren't any human beings there.

    The more you look, the more you see. The ancient magicians had a phrase for this, "As above, so below." A section of cell wall at magnification is indistinguishable from a segment of coastline.

    As for moral absolutes: what is true and correct for you can be completely false and wrong for someone else.

    If your understanding of existence is an infinite, continuous pouring and transformation of energy into the physical universe, where things are "created", "live", and "die" (and then return to the Elsewhere in another energy form), then what is "good" or "bad"? Everything is an illusion.

    If all of us choose our entire existence, all the decisions, variables, outcomes...because we want to experience and learn this way--even what many of us would agree are the AWFUL things...is anything "good" or "bad"?

    I can think of several AWFUL things.

    I can think of many things I personally would never do, because they would be too hurtful to others. I will never, for instance, set up a rail network to transport people to concentration camps to be worked to expiration and incinerated in a machinery of death. But that's me and my choice, and those are my illusory beliefs. Someone else might do those things, because they've agreed on some level with the "victim" to do them. (You combine Hitler's activity with the illusory world view and you get a pretty pointless activity, don't you; the people you 'exterminated' merely come back later. Not so enjoyable for them, though, I'll admit.)

    So where can you say "good" and "bad" or "right" and "wrong" are? Each of us has our own range of acceptable and unaccceptable behavior. A soldier who has been in active duty and done what I would consider terrible but he considers absolutely necessary things has quite a different range than I do. There's no "normal" or constant for this stuff.

    It's not what happens to you that is important so much as the story you tell yourself about what happens, and the meaning that story gives it. But all that noise, the story, is fake.

    And that is my conclusion. No consistent "right" and "wrong". The universe doesn't care. It will blow up planets, swallow you whole, and wipe out entire galaxies (have you SEEN the photographs?!) with, as one of my favorite writers put it, "fish-eyed indifference."

    Pick your path, but don't think for a second your values are anything like The Other's.

    And we haven't even touched solipsism...which would be the end game touchdown play in this discussion.
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  • BS and lies sell that is what the 99 want NOT the hard truth!
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    soon people... Relax...
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    • Profile picture of the author esmarshall
      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      BS and lies sell that is what the 99 want NOT the hard truth!
      if your referring to the news....then ill give you that one

      but i wouldn't say thats what the 99 want...people want exciting and interesting...and IMO from doing copywriting...thats ultimately what you want to do to market your product or service, make it a different and exciting proposition that can help them get where they want..

      its not a factor of "hard work and grinding away"

      cause im sure we all know somebody who works religiously for there money and still doesnt make ends meet...so clearly thats not the decisive factor in getting paid big sums (not saying you dont need work ethic, but working smarter is a better use of your time)

      but if you take alook at the people who are making the big money of this world...like apple for e.g there products might be VERY VERY similar but they generate alot of excitement, people are already talking about the iphone 7/7s and the iphone 6s has just dropped

      and look at all these reality tv stars, what do they do? cause they certainly aint working hard, but they still get paid large sums of money because they are in the media and money flows to relevant and exciting things....and with power of association its contagious and it spreads to other things, thats why they get paid large amounts of money to make appearances, paid endorsement cause its that powerful and the kardashian brand is the perfect example, everything they associate with seems to bring excitement and money

      lets be real...who really knew who kris humpries was before kim got with him (nobody in england did anyway...)

      nike dont have the best USP but there brand is worn by some of the elite athletes and thats what put them and keeps them where they are


      so if you think about it properly the big money is made by exciting association and clever positioning and you can find this link everywhere
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  • Profile picture of the author mark toughill
    Have to agree with you Tomas. Could not have put it better myself.
    I think the part where you mention having a mentor is really important because it is tough out there and in lot of instances in my personal journey led me to inevitably seek professional one on one training as I was going round in circles and needed some help as the training on certain elements was not readily available to me back then. On a good note though, fortunately more and more training is becoming readily available, so in some instances, it's actually easier now than it was back then!
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    • Profile picture of the author Tomas Gabriel
      Originally Posted by mark toughill View Post

      Have to agree with you Tomas. Could not have put it better myself.
      I think the part where you mention having a mentor is really important because it is tough out there and in lot of instances in my personal journey led me to inevitably seek professional one on one training as I was going round in circles and needed some help as the training on certain elements was not readily available to me back then. On a good note though, fortunately more and more training is becoming readily available, so in some instances, it's actually easier now than it was back then!
      Hey Mark!

      Thank you for your response.

      Yeah, this one is super important because of the law of association. You are the sum total of the people you hang around with.

      When I first started I didn't think I needed anybody. "I could do it myself!" I thought...

      But the truth is that people who are higher up than where you want to be, will provide insight and experience...most of all rub off on you in terms of mindsets and correct actions to take. You'll gain more meat on the bones that fill out the gaps in-between the success. Some are fortunate enough to meet those mentors naturally, but some just need to pay for it until, they too, adopt the mindsets to make things happen naturally.

      My mentors are Justin and Adam from clickbank.

      Whom are yours...

      I would be happy to hear

      Please share your thoughts

      Best regards

      Tomas
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  • Profile picture of the author Manish Sapkota
    Nice thoughts
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  • Profile picture of the author stevefox88
    Good one though
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    Give Up? Do it now so that you regret later

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  • Profile picture of the author ZenDude
    Thanks for this. As a complete newbie who understands NOTHING about affiliate marketing to date, I agree with all of the above. I especially like #11. I'm trying to figure out how to do this with integrity and without turning myself into "just another affiliate scammer." That's why I'm going the social media routes, where I'm already somewhat established and have a decent reputation as a stand-up person. I think that morals are so important, because we've all seen black hatters come and go. Not that they care when they fail, they just pick up another scam to promote, but it still angers me when I see people like The Rich Jerk getting back into the fray, taking advantage of people like me who know nothing, selling them BS products that do nothing but drain their bank accounts.

    Having a mentor is paramount, and one of my goals. I don't expect someone to mentor me for free, but I do appreciate all the valuable information that people are willing to share here. I think that a lot of people get into this not expecting to have to put any money out, just rake in the profits, and that's their biggest mistake. For newbies like me, starting with nothing, it's hard to get going sometimes. I realize, though, that for awhile, I'll have to put everything I earn back into growing my business, and I'm fine with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharfaraz516
    Banned
    good thoughts....
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  • Profile picture of the author LegacyBossLife
    I agree with your post! People need to go into network marketing with the right mindset. No one makes money the very next day! Building a business requires people to take action and to have realistic expectations. I hope that newbies start to understand this process.
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