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How Many Times Can I Submit The Same Article?

by pheonix44
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Just a quick question, I am building a niche site and I was going to use article marketing to get it started. I bough article bot but I wanted to know how many times should I submit the same article to article directories in order to avoid being accused of spamming?
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
    Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

    Just a quick question, I am building a niche site and I was going to use article marketing to get it started. I bough article bot but I wanted to know how many times should I submit the same article to article directories in order to avoid being accused of spamming?
    Submit your article to every article directory there is. If you are trying to get as many copies of an article stay indexed in google say, then Unique article wizard does this job quite well, but either way quantity is key in article marketing so dont worry about your spamming question it is not an issue.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

        It's hardly surprising that so many people have so much difficulty mastering article marketing when even an "authoritative source" like the Warrior Forum contains misinformation like this.
        That's my Girl ....

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    • Profile picture of the author Paulie Ciara
      Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

      but either way quantity is key in article marketing so dont worry about your spamming question it is not an issue.
      Augh! Careful!! Quantity is somewhat important but quality should ALWAYS come first!! Make sure your readers will view the time spent reading was worthwhile. If your article didn't tell them anything, why would they want to go to your site to see what else you have?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

    Just a quick question, I am building a niche site and I was going to use article marketing to get it started. I bough article bot but I wanted to know how many times should I submit the same article to article directories in order to avoid being accused of spamming?
    You should be submitting to as many places as possible and not just article directories...

    You also need to read this entire thread - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

    quantity is key in article marketing so dont worry about your spamming question it is not an issue.
    Wrong!! Stop giving out bad advice, the key to article marketing is providing high "quality" content that can be syndicated due the nature of the content being very informative.

    You very well can spam a article directory if you sit there and submit hundreds of articles to the same directory at one time.

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Havenhood
      You very well can spam a article directory if you sit there and submit hundreds of articles to the same directory at one time.
      That may be true, but some article directories do allow Flooding.

      Try UA Articles, if you have many articles to publish.
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Originally Posted by Havenhood View Post

        That may be true, but some article directories do allow Flooding.

        Try UA Articles, if you have many articles to publish.
        Yes go flood this directory as it only have a few article
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    • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
      Wrong!! Stop giving out bad advice, the key to article marketing is providing high "quality" content that can be syndicated due the nature of the content being very informative.

      You very well can spam a article directory if you sit there and submit hundreds of articles to the same directory at one time.

      James
      LMAO,
      You obviously have a problem understanding the concept of article marketing here, articles are about links not traffic. To get links you need quantity, one article to every directory, then another different article to every directory again. This is why services such as Article amrketer and Unique article wizard exists. This is not spammming, and i never said to submit hundreds of the same article to the same directory. You will receive traffic from your article and thats all good, but this isnt the reason why we market via articles so dont pretend to poeple that it is and you know what you're talking about.
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      • Profile picture of the author ADAMw3
        Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

        LMAO,
        You obviously have a problem understanding the concept of article marketing here, articles are about links not traffic. To get links you need quantity, one article to every directory, then another different article to every directory again. This is why services such as Article amrketer and Unique article wizard exists. This is not spammming, and i never said to submit hundreds of the same article to the same directory. You will receive traffic from your article and thats all good, but this isnt the reason why we market via articles so dont pretend to poeple that it is and you know what you're talking about.
        You, my friend, obviously don't understand that article marketing is a double edged sword. Yes, you can focus on getting backlinks, but quite a few people on this forum get tremendous amounts of traffic from writing a small amount of high quality articles.

        If you promote your articles, you can easily take advantage of the high page rank of the article directories and get them ranked on the first page of extremely well trafficked keywords.

        Additionally, with the attitude you demonstrated in the last post, you will never be a successful business person. This forum is to provide a place to bounce ideas and tips off each other. No need to call someone out for proving you wrong and providing alternative information.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

        LMAO,
        You obviously have a problem understanding the concept of article marketing here, articles are about links not traffic. To get links you need quantity, one article to every directory, then another different article to every directory again. This is why services such as Article amrketer and Unique article wizard exists. This is not spammming, and i never said to submit hundreds of the same article to the same directory. You will receive traffic from your article and thats all good, but this isnt the reason why we market via articles so dont pretend to poeple that it is and you know what you're talking about.
        You obviously have no idea who I am if you think I do not understand article marketing ...

        Crappy articles just to get links is a bad way to go about things... Quantity is not the first thing you should be thinking about "QUALITY" is... I am sorry but articles are about building backlinks and traffic both.

        It's funny you are talking to me about some over expensive services

        Again stop giving out bad advice, I can backup everything I say and I have done so on here many times...

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          Crappy articles just to get links is a bad way to go about things... Quantity is not the first thing you should be thinking about "QUALITY" is... I am sorry but articles are about building backlinks and traffic both.
          I never said anything about submitting 'crappy' articles, just that you should submit your articles to everywhere you can.

          If you promote your articles, you can easily take advantage of the high page rank of the article directories and get them ranked on the first page of extremely well trafficked keywords.
          With the except of a few of the larger article directories, namely ezine, your article will end up on an PR0 page, so exactly what is the advantage you are talking about here.

          Additionally, with the attitude you demonstrated in the last post, you will never be a successful business person.
          While my answer could have been a bit more restrained, i wasnt the one who outright declared me wrong (with two exclamation marks no less), when in fact i was correct. Quantity is key, quality i would have thought was a given if you want your article accepted by the maximum quantity of directories.

          You obviously have no idea who I am
          Its quite frankly it is irrelevant who you are... just someone on a thread about article marketing pushing their own article marketing service through their forum sig.

          Again stop giving out bad advice
          Exactly what bad advice are your refering to..... to submit your article to as many article driectories as you can? i fail to see what is bad about that.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

            I never said anything about submitting 'crappy' articles, just that you should submit your articles to everywhere you can. <-- YOU DID NOT SAY THAT, STOP TELLING LIES. YOU SAID QUANTITY IS WHAT ARTICLE MARKETING IS ABOUT



            With the except of a few of the larger article directories, namely ezine, your article will end up on an PR0 page, so exactly what is the advantage you are talking about here. <--- SEE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MARKETING AT ALL, PR0 MEANS NOTHING JUST LIKE PR8 MEANS NOTHING. I HAVE A PR1 SITE THAT OUTRANKS EZA



            While my answer could have been a bit more restrained, i wasnt the one who outright declared me wrong (with two exclamation marks no less), when in fact i was correct. Quantity is key, quality i would have thought was a given if you want your article accepted by the maximum quantity of directories. <--- YOUR RESPONSES SHOW HOW MUCH OF A TROLL YOU ARE


            Its quite frankly it is irrelevant who you are... just someone on a thread about article marketing pushing their own article marketing service through their forum sig. <--- WRONG AGAIN, I HAVE HELPED OUT MANY MANY PEOPLE WITH ASKING FOR NOTHING IN RETURN


            Exactly what bad advice are your refering to..... to submit your article to as many article driectories as you can? i fail to see what is bad about that. <--- ARTICLE MARKETING IS ABOUT QUANTITY, THAT IS BAD ADVICE
            You're a Funny Troll!!!!

            James
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          • Profile picture of the author CDawson
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            Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

            With the except of a few of the larger article directories, namely ezine, your article will end up on an PR0 page, so exactly what is the advantage you are talking about here.
            I can write articles to goarticles and have them on the first page of google with good keywords and social bookmarking the articles, so I guess im just lucky?
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        • Profile picture of the author David
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          You obviously have no idea who I am if you think I do not understand article marketing ...

          Crappy articles just to get links is a bad way to go about things... Quantity is not the first thing you should be thinking about "QUALITY" is... I am sorry but articles are about building backlinks and traffic both.

          It's funny you are talking to me about some over expensive services

          Again stop giving out bad advice, I can backup everything I say and I have done so on here many times...

          James
          I'd take what James said over an opposing view of almost anyone else.

          Here's my 2 cents:

          I had a high end doctor ask me to get him ranked higher (not gonna give out any keywords being targeted, too much money involved...)

          anyway, I did a quick check of the competition:
          guy in #1 spot had 3,000 back links
          guy in #2 had 6,000 back links

          obviously the PR (and I'm not talking about the silly green bar that show us what Google WANTS us to see) the PR or quality of the 3,000 links was of more value to what ever weighting scale Google's algo uses then the guy with 6,000 back links.

          It is apparent to me that the quantity over quality debates depends on who it is your going after, if the opposing side has zilch then anything you do is gonna blow him out of the water, if the opposing side has done his homework and earned his coveted top spot you're gonna have to work your ass off.
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      • Profile picture of the author lilgrace
        Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

        LMAO,
        You obviously have a problem understanding the concept of article marketing here, articles are about links not traffic. To get links you need quantity, one article to every directory, then another different article to every directory again. This is why services such as Article amrketer and Unique article wizard exists. This is not spammming, and i never said to submit hundreds of the same article to the same directory. You will receive traffic from your article and thats all good, but this isnt the reason why we market via articles so dont pretend to poeple that it is and you know what you're talking about.

        To the OP...be careful who you listen to. If you go through these forums you will see that people like TheRichJerk(James), Steven W and Allen are the people to listen to (and a few others) not people who just show up and read one or two threads with bad advice and spread that bad advice around. Seriously, do a lot of reading! The thread that James recommended you read is FULL of information from the top article marketers on the WF.
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        • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
          With the except of a few of the larger article directories, namely ezine, your article will end up on an PR0 page, so exactly what is the advantage you are talking about here.
          PR is a tricky thing. Most of the directories I publish to have no pr for the article except for when they are on the recently published page, but getting them some pr is confusing. For instance I have an article that I only built 2 backlinks to for EZA and that article has a PR3. It is weird how it works, I am beginning to believe it doesn't mean as much as I have been led to believe.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

            PR is a tricky thing. Most of the directories I publish to have no pr for the article except for when they are on the recently published page, but getting them some pr is confusing. For instance I have an article that I only built 2 backlinks to for EZA and that article has a PR3. It is weird how it works, I am beginning to believe it doesn't mean as much as I have been led to believe.
            Correct .. PR means nothing, I do not care who says what.. It has been proven it means nothing. Besides that point only google cares about PR and they are NOT the only search engine.

            You should not worry about PR, just get your high quality articles out there on many different places and this includes document upload sites, not just article directories...

            James
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              • Profile picture of the author lilgrace
                Originally Posted by wildfremd View Post

                I don't know about that James... PR, aside from trying to market with articles like EZine, plays a HUGE role as to whether or not you're within the first 10 results on Google. Having high PR backlinks (which eventually boosts your PR as well) can mean getting indexed in less than 2 hours vs. a week. I've tried it....if you know your stuff, PR can be a lifesaver. Did you know that 1.3 billion out of 1.6 billion internet users go with Google? If you're not seen on Google, the chances that you're going to be successful with your site are kinda slim....

                Uploading to document sites is a great idea too!

                I have seen sites with a PR0 - PR3 sites on the first page ABOVE some sites with a PR5 to PR7....no joke!
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                • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
                  I have seen sites with a PR0 - PR3 sites on the first page ABOVE some sites with a PR5 to PR7....no joke
                  I have seen this as well, I believe google has some sort of system we are not aware of. I think that little green bar doesn't mean as much as we all think it does. I created a site and have two links pointing back to it from pages with PR0, it is only a few months old and now the site I created is PR3.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaine
    You should be fine but make slight changes to the article if its going to appear on your site to avoid duplicate content penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pokerlover
    You can submit your article to as many article submission sites as there are out there.. You won't be considered spamming if you do that because it is an allowed SEO strategy.. What is prohibited is the creation of different blogs and posting the same articles on these blogs as well as submitting one article through different accounts in one directory.. That would be considered spamming..
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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    You can submit the same article to as many places as you'd like.
    Content syndication is natural.

    You should NOT spin the article and submit it multiple times
    to the same place! In a recent interview, Chris Knight of
    EzineArticles.com revealed that they have software that
    compares several random complex sentences, looking for
    spun articles, as well as PLR articles, and that they catch
    and reject these articles.

    Chris also revealed that they have a huge database of
    rejected articles that they compare your submissions against.

    Bottom-line, as long as your submit unique, useful content
    to the article directories, you'll be ok. If you do anything
    that hurts their business, and puts their search engine rankings
    at risk, will get you banned, and your content deleted.

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  • Profile picture of the author hhayman
    Article marketing can be about quality and quantity.

    Quality gets you direct visitors, higher PR and good exposure to perhaps become the expert in a niche.

    Quantity gets you backlinks, which help your SE rankings.

    Two very different things.

    I use both methods, but with the quantity strategy I make sure my article is at least readable and mildly interesting - not like some of the spun rubbish out there. The last thing you want to do is destroy your credibility with a horribly written article.
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  • Profile picture of the author SRLee
    Hi James,

    Based on what you're trying to tell, ArticleBot serves no real purpose? Since ArticleBot does not spin the article on the fly(it spins only the title and the resource box).

    But who are going to read all the articles out there on some random directories other than EzineArticles and other more popular directories?

    I just want to clear my doubts, nothing more.

    Regards,
    Shaun
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by SRLee View Post

      Hi James,

      Based on what you're trying to tell, ArticleBot serves no real purpose? Since ArticleBot does not spin the article on the fly(it spins only the title and the resource box).

      But who are going to read all the articles out there on some random directories other than EzineArticles and other more popular directories?

      I just want to clear my doubts, nothing more.

      Regards,
      Shaun

      I said nothing about articlebot... You should read the thread above because it answers your questions about spun articles, not spun articles, and etc .. Article Submitters should be used and as far as spinning the article or not, this is up to you.. I have suggested many times over to do both and test.

      Again though read the thread above that I posted a link to..

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
    I never said anything about submitting 'crappy' articles, just that you should submit your articles to everywhere you can. <-- YOU DID NOT SAY THAT, STOP TELLING LIES. YOU SAID QUANTITY IS WHAT ARTICLE MARKETING IS ABOUT
    'Submitting your article everywhere you can', THAT IS QUANTITY.. Try reading it again.

    SEE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MARKETING AT ALL, PR0 MEANS NOTHING JUST LIKE PR8 MEANS NOTHING. I HAVE A PR1 SITE THAT OUTRANKS EZA
    Again... try reading the comment my question was referring to, the commenter said PR of the Article directory mattered, I said it didnt....and then you just agreed with me.. Thanks.

    YOUR RESPONSES SHOW HOW MUCH OF A TROLL YOU ARE
    Lets not forget that YOU started all this.

    ARTICLE MARKETING IS ABOUT QUANTITY, THAT IS BAD ADVICE
    Please explain why submitting your articles to as many directories as possible (quantity) is bad advice, rather than just because YOU said so.

    Writing in CAPS doesnt make your points anymore valid by the way. And calling someone a troll doesnt make my points any less valid.
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  • Profile picture of the author getreffs
    It is better to write unique articles for every article site
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    • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
      It is better to write unique articles for every article site
      If I actually did this won't the articles begin to look like crap after a while, and the people who read them will look at me like I do not know what the hell I am talking about.Surely it will not result in Opt-in or sales
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

        If I actually did this won't the articles begin to look like crap after a while, and the people who read them will look at me like I do not know what the hell I am talking about.Surely it will not result in Opt-in or sales
        The point is to use informative content, you can spin it (yes proper spinners do exist) or you can use the same article and post it to hundreds of article directories... Again "TEST" your market..

        Anyways to give you an example here - I just ordered 5 articles from you (I will send PM in a little bit - and to prove the Troll wrong here, I do love to help others out so I ordered these articles to help you.. I do not really "need" them). All 5 articles will be about the same thing only be different. They all will target the same thing but be worded in different ways.

        I will take these 5 articles and use them in many different ways, I will have them posted on hudreds of articles directories and thousands of blogs in no time.

        James
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    • Profile picture of the author LynnM
      Originally Posted by getreffs View Post

      It is better to write unique articles for every article site
      It's not...as James has already suggested, read this thread for a different perspective: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

      James, do you have any hair left?


      Lynn
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by LynnM View Post

        It's not...as James has already suggested, read this thread for a different perspective: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

        James, do you have any hair left?


        Lynn
        Hi Lynn,
        Well go pull up my facebook profile and you will see my real pic ..lol

        I am losing my hair !!!!

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
          Is it going to be your goal to get backlinks or get them indexed on your site first before you submit them for backlinks. I have been going insane about this. I am building a niche site to be monetized for adense, but I am not sure which one is better in terms of getting ranking for these keywords. I just realized that if my goal is to get adsense revenue then it does not make sense for me to send the traffic to an article directory where there is adsense all over the place.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

            Is it going to be your goal to get backlinks or get them indexed on your site first before you submit them for backlinks. I have been going insane about this. I am building a niche site to be monetized for adense, but I am not sure which one is better in terms of getting ranking for these keywords. I just realized that if my goal is to get adsense revenue then it does not make sense for me to send the traffic to an article directory where there is adsense all over the place.
            PM will be sent after I eat .... Give me a little bit...

            You want to build most of your backlinks to "your site" not the article directories...

            James
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            • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
              You want to build most of your backlinks to "your site" not the article directories...

              James
              The part that drives me crazy is how long will it take for me to rank on a fairly new website. I have a site now that has 40+ pages of unique content. Only one post from this blog is submitted on a directory and I have the same article on this forum. It is about three and a half months old and I have not touched it for about two and a half of those. It is averaging 200 visitors a month. This is only with one article submited not the others. I have not done any link building to the others whatsoever. Not even an RSS submission or a site directory submission.
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

                The part that drives me crazy is how long will it take for me to rank on a fairly new website. I have a site now that has 40+ pages of unique content. Only one post from this blog is submitted on a directory and I have the same article on this forum. It is about three and a half months old and I have not touched it for about two and a half of those. It is averaging 200 visitors a month. This is only with one article submited not the others. I have not done any link building to the others whatsover. Not even an RSS submission or a site directory submission.
                One way to rank quick is bookmarking.. New sites does not matter, google may flop the site around but you can get top listing in very little time.

                Using Clipmarks - What are you finding on the web? & All News, Videos, & Images can help with that as they have been known to get your listing in 15 minutes or less... As you know keywords matter here and seo but I do not think I need to explain that ....

                Or you can also use sites such as Scribd which helps also... Create the document (I suggest PDF's) and add your resource on it just like you would when posting an article to an article directory.

                James
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

                The part that drives me crazy is how long will it take for me to rank on a fairly new website. I have a site now that has 40+ pages of unique content. Only one post from this blog is submitted on a directory and I have the same article on this forum. It is about three and a half months old and I have not touched it for about two and a half of those. It is averaging 200 visitors a month. This is only with one article submited not the others. I have not done any link building to the others whatsover. Not even an RSS submission or a site directory submission.
                Ok PM sent about the 5 articles I just purchased from you ....

                James
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                • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
                  I also heard you can be punished for bookmarking too much, can you please enlighten me on this.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                    Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

                    I also heard you can be punished for bookmarking too much, can you please enlighten me on this.
                    Another false myth ... I have posted proof on this many times over also.. You can very well do 5,000 bookmarks in one day and it not hurt you. Google, MSN, Yahoo, and other search engines can not be in all places at once and they certainly can not crawl all sites every 24 hours.

                    Now bookmarking does have to be done right, just slapping your links and and there will not work... I have a video posted on this on several threads..

                    James
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by alexa_s View Post

            I'm not surprised. But don't panic too much: that makes some men look mature and distinguished.
            Thank you Alexa.. I needed that ....

            James
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            • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
              Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

              Thank you Alexa.. I needed that ....

              James
              Alexa said... "some men".... not all of them... keep holding that hope

              lol..

              Just playin'

              Peace

              Jay
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

                Alexa said... "some men".... not all of them... keep holding that hope

                lol..

                Just playin'

                Peace

                Jay
                OUCH!!! Jay that is just so wrong on so many levels .....

                Well at least you left the bold red color alone ...lol

                James
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    ::sigh::

    Do we really have to do this every single week?...

    This topic has been explained in great detail, countless times in the thread James linked to earlier here...

    James, my friend... I feel for you, buddy. This is hard work.

    I can't keep fighting this battle

    Peace

    Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
    I also heard you can be punished for bookmarking too much, can you please enlighten me on this.
    You will never be punished for bookmarking too much, this is mainly due to the fact that google will never penalise a site for a method that could easily be gamed by a competitor trying to do your site harm by bookmarking your site repeatedly.

    What will most likely happen is that after a certain amount of bookmarking links they will start to be discounted altogether and have little extra benefit for your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

      You will never be punished for bookmarking too much, this is mainly due to the fact that google will never penalise a site for a method that could easily be gamed by a competitor trying to do your site harm by bookmarking your site repeatedly.

      What will most likely happen is that after a certain amount of bookmarking links they will start to be discounted altogether and have little extra benefit for your site.
      WRONG!! Stop giving advice out all together dude before you really cost someone to lose big time in their business....

      You can be banned and punished for bookmarking incorrectly and as far as links being discounted again you are wrong...

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author SiteLabs
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        WRONG!! Stop giving advice out all together dude before you really cost someone to lose big time in their business....

        You can be banned and punished for bookmarking incorrectly and as far as links being discounted again you are wrong...

        James
        It is sad, that some one with 3000+ posts is still clueless noob as to how the algorithm works. People following your advice will starve, you are doing people no favours and shouting WRONG doesn't help anyone, try explaining your reason why you think it is wrong instead and we can discuss the points at hand.

        Try researching the pagerank algorithm and you will soon see that links have to be discounted after a certain point otherwise people would just make a million spam pages to their sites to increase pagerank.

        I humbly await your 'educated' response.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by SiteLabs View Post

          It is sad, that some one with 3000+ posts is still clueless noob as to how the algorithm works. People following your advice will starve, you are doing people no favours and shouting WRONG doesn't help anyone, try explaining your reason why you think it is wrong instead and we can discuss the points at hand.

          Try researching the pagerank algorithm and you will soon see that links have to be discounted after a certain point otherwise people would just make a million spam pages to their sites to increase pagerank.

          I humbly await your 'educated' response.
          I have no need to lower myself to a trolls level... I am glad you think the way you do though because I have clients that make 5 and 6 figure incomes...lol

          I do not have to prove you are wrong because the FACT is it has already been proven.

          James
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  • Profile picture of the author mojuu
    Just a quick word of advice. If you submit your article to several article directories, I would always begin by submitting the article to ezinesarticles.com before anywhere else. Ezinearticles are not huge fans of posting articles that are being posted on other article directories and I'm sure you want your article posted on their site, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by mojuu View Post

      Just a quick word of advice. If you submit your article to several article directories, I would always begin by submitting the article to ezinesarticles.com before anywhere else. Ezinearticles are not huge fans of posting articles that are being posted on other article directories and I'm sure you want your article posted on their site, right?
      OMG!!! Where do you people learn this stuff ???? Post on your site first and you can post to hundred directories at the same time including EZA....

      Please read the thread that was posted on this thread several times now...

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
        I have to say it makes sense. If a article is on my site first then that is proof that I own it. And as long as I own it then their should be no penalty when it comes to mass submissions.
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      • Profile picture of the author mojuu
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        OMG!!! Where do you people learn this stuff ???? Post on your site first and you can post to hundred directories at the same time including EZA....

        Please read the thread that was posted on this thread several times now...

        James
        Right. Post the article on your own site first, I agree. No harm done there.

        In my experience however I've found EZA to not accept an article on the basis that it was posted on another articel directory. Just sharing my experiences here, not guessing, but not saying that it's alwyas like this either.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by mojuu View Post

          In my experience however I've found EZA to not accept an article on the basis that it was posted on another articel directory. Just sharing my experiences here, not guessing, but not saying that it's alwyas like this either.
          Ok and not trying to be rude but - Who Cares ??? Eza is NOT the king of article directories, there are many other sites that can get listings just as good and even better than EZA without all the bullcrap rules and waiting...

          Personally I no longer submit to EZA and waste my time by giving them high quality content just to incraese their google ad clicks. If someone wants to submit to EZA though, you do NOT have to wait for an article to be approved... Just submit to hundreds of sites including EZA at the same time...

          By the way remove the affiliate link out of your sig ... NOW!!!!!!

          James
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  • Profile picture of the author patJ
    Obviously, article marketing is about balancing quality with quantity...
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    • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
      Hey rich jerk, what kind of penalty are you referring to. I am planning on using socialbot to do this kind of stuff with my niche site. How should I go about it?
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

        Hey rich jerk, what kind of penalty are you referring to. I am planning on using socialbot to do this kind of stuff with my niche site. How should I go about it?
        The bookmarking sites can ban you if you just sit there and spam them .... Viewing that video will help but you also need to make yourself a plan before you just blindly go bookmarking. Banned accounts do not look to good to search engines.

        Plan on using many different accounts for the same site and also plan on bookmarking other sites besides your own (news site for one) and also plan on becoing apart of the communities, this means login your accounts, be social, make friends, and etc...

        Bookmarking done "properly" takes a great deal of time even with automation software. The payoff can be great though if you do it right.

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
          Multiple accounts? If I had multiple account and tried to participate in the communities it would take forever. Maybe if I just focused on the top ones and used the others as backlinks, what do you think of that?
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Originally Posted by pheonix44 View Post

            Multiple accounts? If I had multiple account and tried to participate in the communities it would take forever. Maybe if I just focused on the top ones and used the others as backlinks, what do you think of that?
            Yes it does take time... As I said even with automative software you will spend a great amount of time if you want to do it properly... Course now you could be like many others and just be a spammer that use automation software but never take the time to login and be apart of the community - but those people normally never get what they thought they would out of bookmarking...

            Remember this is a business and any business takes time and effort... You are going to get out of it what you put into it... There are no secrets, there are no magic buttons, you must work and work hard to build your business...

            James
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            • Profile picture of the author pheonix44
              I guess the constant reference to EZA refers to the direct traffic they can bring you. But I have found that the CTR is usually around 15%, so for every 100 views I get I only get 15 clicks. So if I am selling a product that converts at 2% I would have to get about 600 views to this article in order to get 100 clicks to my site for the chance to make those two sales or even one sale. While this is possible I would prefer to get most of those clicks directly to my site, and have me making higher affiliate commissions, getting more opt-ins, and making that adsens revenue.
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  • Profile picture of the author lilgrace
    I would love to have the thread 'Article On Site or EZA First' made a sticky! Instead of reading the whole thread people are coming in and reading the last POST in the thread and starting the whole thing over and over again.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    I think one thing I've learned already is that EZine has the most stringent submission standards, so submit there first unless you're posting it on your own blog/website then spin it to other directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by MarkAse View Post

      I think one thing I've learned already is that EZine has the most stringent submission standards, so submit there first unless you're posting it on your own blog/website then spin it to other directories.
      Do you know how many spun articles and junk articles are in EZA ??? There are plenty trust me.. You are right though they are strict and personally I am nto putting my business on hold waiting on them to approve a article or not.... There are better websites to post to that does not have the problems EZA does..

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Wildfremd,
    PR means little ... According to google I have a PR1 site but yet I can have anyone of my authors articles in top position in 10 minutes, not 2 hours... I have already posted screenshot of this here several times with severak different authors.

    And the rankings also pushed EZA down the road, while my sit took top position. EZA is a PR 6 or something they say (I really do not look because I really do not care)... But point is the PR means very little.

    Did you know that 1.3 billion out of 1.6 billion internet users go with Google? If you're not seen on Google, the chances that you're going to be successful with your site are kinda slim....
    This is not a fully correct statement... Did you know many people use 20 and 30 search engines at a time ? As far as a website being a success without google that happens every single day, nothing new ...

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author danyasdad
    I read an article by a friend of mine named Ben Mapp and he had a pretty intersting take on this:

    "Some marketers explicitly don't do this because of the idea that "duplicate content" will be frowned upon by search engines.
    I don't have any experience that this is the case. I mean, if I'm the author of the article, I should be able to syndicate my content for maximum distribution. Why would that get "slapped" by Google? Newspaper columns, sitcoms, and other media use this type of syndication model to maximize readers/viewers and revenue, why shouldn't it also work on the Internet? More importantly, if this were the case, then why would Ezine publishers use content from article directories in their ezines?"
    The entire article was good but this talks specifically to your question.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by danyasdad View Post

      I read an article by a friend of mine named Ben Mapp and he had a pretty intersting take on this:

      The entire article was good but this talks specifically to your question.
      Maybe you should go read the EZA thread also ... Duplicate Content is a myth ....

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author livewellfinancial
    For me it is better to submit a unique article in every directories...
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Ok sorry for the delay in this post ....

    Update:

    Robin has provided me with the 5 articles I paid for, they was provided on the 14th... Now to prove that quality matters over quantity and quality should be your first concern I have run some test with these articles and a brand new site.

    I have provided these results to Robin, these are beginning results as more is going to be done.

    This is the basics though, I will not post links here due to it may be considered self promotion.

    * 5 Articles purchased and was given on the 14th
    * I posted all 5 on my site on the 18th (did not have time to do it before)
    * All 5 are indexed in google showing promising results
    * All 5 articles have been bookmarked (actually bookmarking is still going on)
    * The new site I am using is already listed in google and has front page listing
    * 2 Articles was repurposed and turned into a beautiful pdf and posted on 1 document sharing site (posted today the 19th at 4PM) - It already has 30+ views.

    No articles have been posted to any article directory yet or any other blog yet. But a brand new site is already index with front page listing and traffic is already coming. All this from 5 simple high quality articles.

    So bottom line (and I will continue to post these articles, I am by far from being done) is high quality articles are the first thing you need to concern yourself with, not quantity... Quantity is important yes, but to prove the the bad advice as being just that, bad advice you can see quality rules hands down....

    James
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