Article Spinning:Is This Possible?

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Hi Everyone,

Is it possible to spin articles, but keep the alternate words in {} brackets?

This would be handy for programs like UAW.


Thanks,
Rob
#article #spinningis
  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Your question kinda not clear. You can have the brackets in UAW that will also spin again.
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  • Profile picture of the author robcole
    If you have an article is there a software that adds different words meaning the same in brackets so you could plug it straight into UAW.

    This would save having to manually do this in UAW.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author robcole
    Sorry.

    I just wanted to check if there is a software that adds words meaning the same to your article in {} for example.

    "I made sausages using a cooker." would become

    "I made sausages using a {cooker|grill|oven}."

    At the minute you have to manually do this in UAW and then submit it so you get various versions. I was just wondering if there is a software that does this.

    Does that make sense?

    Cheers Guys,
    Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      Send you a PM with the on I use - what I do is spin 3 articles as required keeping the paragraphs the same. If I then want to add more options I can do it again to the article when I submit them to UAW but as you know the 3 version is normally ok
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  • Profile picture of the author andrewpeacock
    Hi Rob,
    I've not heard of one, other than one that I wrote but used for my own purposes only.

    Basically, you enter the text. The software highlights one word at a time and pulls up a dictionary from word (word is mandatory), and offers the alternatives. You pick which ones you want, and then move to the next word. The software then spits out the {this|or|that} format (and also then went on to generate some of the spun files as well).

    If there are enough people interested in that, I could dig it up and dust it off...

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    I doubt anyone would be interested in yet another manual / semimanual solution, when there's an automatoic one already available:-

    Automatic Jet Spinner Software to rewrite your articles instantly
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    I doubt anyone would be interested in yet another manual / semimanual solution, when there's an automatoic one already available:-

    Automatic Jet Spinner Software to rewrite your articles instantly
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    As Jon has already said, there isn't any point in having an automatic
    solution that doesn't involve human intervention. You might as well
    use a fully automated package and cross your fingers that you don't
    have to do too much re-editing.

    HTH

    Glenn
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
      Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

      As Jon has already said, there isn't any point in having an automatic
      solution that doesn't involve human intervention. You might as well
      use a fully automated package and cross your fingers that you don't
      have to do too much re-editing.

      HTH

      Glenn
      As Jon has{ already|} {sai|claime|declare}d, there{ is no|'s no| isn't any} point in having an automat{ic|ed} Solution that does{n't involv| not requir|n't requir}e human intervention. You m{ay as|ight as} well {Use|Employ} a {ful|entire|total}ly automated package and cross your fingers that you do{n't| not} Have to do too much {re-edit|edit|re-word}ing.

      that was generated automatically, 'without human intervention'.

      I do agree, though, that a writer who doesn't proof read, be it a single article or a chunk of jet spinner syntax, has a fool for a client.
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Originally Posted by Jon Alexander View Post

        As Jon has{ already|} {sai|claime|declare}d, there{ is no|'s no| isn't any} point in having an automat{ic|ed} Solution that does{n't involv| not requir|n't requir}e human intervention. You m{ay as|ight as} well {Use|Employ} a {ful|entire|total}ly automated package and cross your fingers that you do{n't| not} Have to do too much {re-edit|edit|re-word}ing.
        Try proof reading the above but a 400 word article as you have no control what comes out. And it will cost you 60c article. I did 3 articles like this and found a few errors with this website

        Save time and better to go human intervention using a product such as magic article rewriter as this way you control what you put in.
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Here is some results and comparisons below

    Using this autojestspinner @ 60c no control

    As Jon has{ already|} {sai|claime|declare}d, there{ is no|'s no| isn't any} point in having an automat{ic|ed} Solution that does{n't involv| not requir|n't requir}e human intervention. You m{ay as|ight as} well {Use|Employ} a {ful|entire|total}ly automated package and cross your fingers that you do{n't| not} Have to do too much {re-edit|edit|re-word}ing.

    Output

    1) As Jon has said, there is no point in having an automated Solution that does not require human intervention. You may as well Employ a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

    2) As Jon has already declared, there's no point in having an automatic Solution that doesn't require human intervention. You may as well Use a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

    3) As Jon has already declared, there's no point in having an automatic Solution that doesn't require human intervention. You may as well Use a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

    Using magic article rewriter for 5 minutes not by a good English writer and a one time owned licence. As I have added the variables from a stored database from within the program I have full control

    Output

    As Jon has {already|{previously|formerly } } {said|whispered}, there isn't any {point|{reason|cause|grounds|incentive } } in having an {automatic|automated|computerized|programmed}
    {solution|answer|way out} that doesn't {involve|engage|entail|require|include} human {intervention|interference|intrusion|involvement}. {You might as well use a|You no better off using a} {fully|{completely|from tip to toe|entirely } } {automated|computerized|robotic} package {and|then|as a consequence} cross your {fingers|toes} that you don't {have|take part in} to do too {much|a great deal|a large amount of} {re-editing|editing}.

    1) As Jon has already whispered, there isn't any incentive in having an automatic
    way out that doesn't include human involvement. You no better off using a fully computerized package then cross your fingers that you don't take part in to do too a great deal editing.

    2) As Jon has already said, there isn't any point in having an automatic
    solution that doesn't include human interference. You no better off using a fully automated package and as a consequence cross your fingers that you don't
    take part in to do too much editing.

    3) As Jon has formerly said, there isn't any point in having an computerized
    solution that doesn't include human intervention. You no better off using a fully computerized package as a consequence cross your toes that you don't
    take part in to do too a great deal editing
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      Here is some results and comparisons below

      Using this autojestspinner @ 60c no control

      As Jon has{ already|} {sai|claime|declare}d, there{ is no|'s no| isn't any} point in having an automat{ic|ed} Solution that does{n't involv| not requir|n't requir}e human intervention. You m{ay as|ight as} well {Use|Employ} a {ful|entire|total}ly automated package and cross your fingers that you do{n't| not} Have to do too much {re-edit|edit|re-word}ing.

      Output

      1) As Jon has said, there is no point in having an automated Solution that does not require human intervention. You may as well Employ a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

      2) As Jon has already declared, there's no point in having an automatic Solution that doesn't require human intervention. You may as well Use a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

      3) As Jon has already declared, there's no point in having an automatic Solution that doesn't require human intervention. You may as well Use a entirely automated package and cross your fingers that you do not Have to do too much editing.

      Using magic article rewriter for 5 minutes not by a good English writer and a one time owned licence. As I have added the variables from a stored database from within the program I have full control

      Output

      As Jon has {already|{previously|formerly } } {said|whispered}, there isn't any {point|{reason|cause|grounds|incentive } } in having an {automatic|automated|computerized|programmed}
      {solution|answer|way out} that doesn't {involve|engage|entail|require|include} human {intervention|interference|intrusion|involvement}. {You might as well use a|You no better off using a} {fully|{completely|from tip to toe|entirely } } {automated|computerized|robotic} package {and|then|as a consequence} cross your {fingers|toes} that you don't {have|take part in} to do too {much|a great deal|a large amount of} {re-editing|editing}.

      1) As Jon has already whispered, there isn't any incentive in having an automatic
      way out that doesn't include human involvement. You no better off using a fully computerized package then cross your fingers that you don't take part in to do too a great deal editing.

      2) As Jon has already said, there isn't any point in having an automatic
      solution that doesn't include human interference. You no better off using a fully automated package and as a consequence cross your fingers that you don't
      take part in to do too much editing.

      3) As Jon has formerly said, there isn't any point in having an computerized
      solution that doesn't include human intervention. You no better off using a fully computerized package as a consequence cross your toes that you don't
      take part in to do too a great deal editing
      and... the output is rubbish. 'an computerized solution' ... 'You no better off '... 'cross your toes' ... 'to do too a great deal editing'. So basically you just shot yourself in the foot.

      You have to think about it like spell checking. Sure, you can do it by hand, and you can get it 100% right IF you know all the words. BUT, it's better to let a machine do it, because machines are better and faster at it. Modern spinners are fast approaching the point where they will be better and faster than the majority of humans (like you - I'm not trying to be nasty, but your English really isn't good enough for what you are trying to do).

      And also, even if you'd actually managed to do a half decent job of selecting replacement words from your little synonym lists, the example above is just a couple of sentences. Manually putting a 500 word article into spinner syntax will take between 20 and 30 minutes depending on the standard of your English, the complexity of your article, and how much coffee you've had today. Or you can just click a button, then give it a once over. It's not hard to proof-read jet spinner syntax once it's there (and assuming it only goes one level deep - there's no need to go any deeper than that with modern 'randomizer' jet spinner enhancements). It's all about using your time effectively, and getting max bangs per buck from your investments in both time and money.

      So, case rested, toes crossed, an computerized solution indeed.
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Originally Posted by Jon Alexander View Post

        and... the output is rubbish. 'an computerized solution' ... 'You no better off '... 'cross your toes' ... 'to do too a great deal editing'. So basically you just shot yourself in the foot.

        You have to think about it like spell checking. Sure, you can do it by hand, and you can get it 100% right IF you know all the words. BUT, it's better to let a machine do it, because machines are better and faster at it. Modern spinners are fast approaching the point where they will be better and faster than the majority of humans (like you - I'm not trying to be nasty, but your English really isn't good enough for what you are trying to do).

        And also, even if you'd actually managed to do a half decent job of selecting replacement words from your little synonym lists, the example above is just a couple of sentences. Manually putting a 500 word article into spinner syntax will take between 20 and 30 minutes depending on the standard of your English, the complexity of your article, and how much coffee you've had today. Or you can just click a button, then give it a once over. It's not hard to proof-read jet spinner syntax once it's there (and assuming it only goes one level deep - there's no need to go any deeper than that with modern 'randomizer' jet spinner enhancements). It's all about using your time effectively, and getting max bangs per buck from your investments in both time and money.

        So, case rested, toes crossed, an computerized solution indeed.
        I didn't expect you to praise me. I did say I am not english and what is wrong with

        computerized solution
        cross your toes

        versus cross your fingers and automated Solution

        What with all the capital letter all over the place in your version
        Not criticizing but asking.

        Also at only +- 50 articles a months for $29 I don't think it is worth it. If it was 150 I would consider it but I think it is still a bit buggy for me. I did find actual errors in one article adding spaces as in isn't or ain 't something like that

        To now try and decyfer a article with all the brackets will take too much time and if you have spun and published it is to late already
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    To be honest, I wouldn't waste my time just taking an article and spinning it into many variations. That can leave a HUGE footprint unless done to a very high level. I prefer to use varied content for each article BUT content that still fits.

    I've used traditional spinning methods for years and LOTS of those articles dis-appeared over time. I now create articles using a different technique and am finding the results to be far better than previous methods.

    Just my two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    I'll add another 2 to make 4 cents.

    use the 'randomizer' jet spinner enhancements. Sentences get included randomly according to your specifications. As most sentences are self-coherent entities, and most articles contain rather a lot of 'filler', as long as you don't drop too many sentences, you can still retain a good flow across the article.

    you specify it like this:-

    <!--randomize=85-->

    <!--preservefirst=1-->

    <!--preservelast=3-->

    which means no sentence has more than an 85% chance of being included, and ALWAYS show the first sentence, and the last 3.

    <!--randomize=90-->

    would mean no sentence has more than a 90% chance of getting included in any particular spin cycle.

    simples, innit?!
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