3 things you need if you are new to IM.

by gjabiz
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You need to OFFER something, a product or service, which other people can exchange value for.

Some say, you need to SELL something, although with the Barter Economy in full force, you don't have to trade money or currency, your TIME, knowledge or skill can also be used.

But, OFFER something.

Then you need "copy" (words, pictures, audio, video) to present your offer to them...

And you need THEM...readers, viewers, listeners.

Or 1-a Product/Service, 2- a sales presentation and 3-eyeballs on it (good eyeballs have an interest).

A good product, although good is subjective, the one you choose may not be universally appraised as good...

Good copy
Good traffic.

Although good product is subjective, good copy and good traffic are NOT.

They can be measured and analyzed, it is where many newbies go awry. IM is much about (for the most part) knowing and understanding conversion rates, the metrics and interpreting the data.

Now a word about the starting point, which many of you are told to begin with niches.

Let's look at a market. Golf. A niche; Senior Golfers...a segment; Senior golfers living in warm states who play golf all year...another segment...Men or Women.

Golf balls are a necessity of the game, thus, a huge MARKET. AND a lot of competition with many big time players. Can a small outfit or one man band compete?

YES. IF they have a good product, good copy and good traffic.

Here is some advice for the new person, instead of starting with a profitable niche, one which can make your rich...start with how you can

ENRICH a segment of the niche. What do you have to offer?

And if you have NOTHING, then you have to acquire something, most often via affiliate marketing, which the niche has an itch for and they scratch their itch with their credit cards.

So, what do you have to offer? TO WHOM? HOW?

A good starting point might be to take a good look at yourself, and note what you are spending money on. In the golf example, if you play golf, what do you buy, from whom, and how often and now much?

If you just want to sit home and play games, perhaps a little inspiration...

Forbes Welcome

But one thing, for sure, you can get paid for gaming, putting on makeup, being silly...

but you won't get paid for doing nothing.

What to do?

Find something to offer.
Have good copy for it.
Get good traffic.

Simplistic? Sure, but a starting point none the less.

gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    hey there great post, but you should mention for people to TAKE ACTION!!. So many people don't take action
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      hey there great post, but you should mention for people to TAKE ACTION!!. So many people don't take action
      In order to have an offer, then

      in order to have copy

      and in order to get traffic...don't they have to act?

      They HAVE taken some action by coming here. So, my opinion, real seekers don't need to be told to take action...they need to be shown

      correct and tested and proven actions to take, eh?

      gjabiz
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Gordon,

        I would add, and maybe this is a given for you, but some folks may not realize that . . . some niches have more willing buyers (money available) than others. Yes, there is some money in most every niche I would guess, but there are niches from which it is difficult to pull money.

        Similarly, different niches have differing levels of competition, some with established businesses that will be difficult to make inroads against. Yes, if you offer something unique competition is less a factor.

        Knowing whether there is money available in the niche and understanding the competition you'll face is certainly helpful (dare I say "important") for a new business owner.

        Great thread. Thanks.

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        • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
          Yes, of course you are right.

          BUT...we all live in the world.

          Don't we know Donald Trump. Mark Cuban, Bill Gates, etc. etc. can afford to buy the best of ANYTHING?

          I refer you to Zig Ziglar and his story of how he reluctantly sold an old woman on a fixed income some very expensive china. She lived in a shabby little house, had next to nothing...but when she saw what
          Zig was selling, she wanted them...and she bought them.

          To say that different niches have different levels of disposable income...

          I just don't get why anyone wouldn't or can't see that...

          If you sell expensive China to poor people, you are going to starve, albeit, even if you find ONE person who must have it.

          Why would anyone choose to sell to people with no money? YET, every Friday, millions of Americans, at or near the poverty level, will buy their Budweiser, Camels, Lay's Potato Chips...who don't care if you can afford it or not...they sell what is wanted.

          Yes, some niches have more money available, and they are loaded with competition, but again...

          Shouldn't this be the THINKING that takes place before one decides on what to offer? People don't come to the Warrior Forum with a blank mind, they get there are different products/services for the different income levels.

          But, again, the niche is less important IF the understanding is there. I mentioned golf balls. A market place MUST. You can't play the game without them.

          Dominated by a few big companies, a niche where competition is fierce. Yet, take NGC Worldwide which has been running ads for decades for the Condor, a special golf ball. When at SCI, we sold our own brand of golf balls, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

          I wrote the OP for the newbie, and within that post, I wrote:

          Here is some advice for the new person, instead of starting with a profitable niche, one which can make your rich...start with how you can

          ENRICH a segment of the niche. What do you have to offer?

          Doesn't that imply one begin with what they know? I really don't believe that all the new people are dumb, and must be talked down to. Ignorance is overcome by education, and picking a niche where there is a better opportunity not only depends on the market, but what skills you bring with you.

          Knowing your competition and what they are doing is basic business 101, to have to tell someone that, indicates to me, they are no where near ready to start any kind of business, let alone an IM one.

          AND, I'm not one for 'PULLING' money from anyone, I prefer they throw it at me...if for no other reason than to chase me away.

          gjabiz

          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          Gordon,

          I would add, and maybe this is a given for you, but some folks may not realize that . . . some niches have more willing buyers (money available) than others. Yes, there is some money in most every niche I would guess, but there are niches from which it is difficult to pull money.

          Similarly, different niches have differing levels of competition, some with established businesses that will be difficult to make inroads against. Yes, if you offer something unique competition is less a factor.

          Knowing whether there is money available in the niche and understanding the competition you'll face is certainly helpful (dare I say "important") for a new business owner.

          Great thread. Thanks.

          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author Steve B
            Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

            Knowing your competition and what they are doing is basic business 101, to have to tell someone that, indicates to me, they are no where near ready to start any kind of business, let alone an IM one.

            You have just described the great majority of newcomers to the Warrior Forum.

            Great thread.

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            • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
              Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

              You have just described the great majority of newcomers to the Warrior Forum.

              Great thread.

              Steve
              You are probably right, but, they can quickly learn.

              Now, a hidden gem....cause most won't ever read this...

              First, I stand by my assertion;;;
              ANY NOOB

              with 10 hours a week of dedicated learning and application can and should get to a 100 bux a day level in a year. If you haven't, it is on you, not on IM...

              but what is IM? I'm going to tell everyone, and some WF gurus might argue, but I'll tell you who won't...those making big bank.

              Internet Marketing is

              Data Analyzed and Adjusted.

              To be analyzed, there has to be some. What data? Where does it come from?

              Within the parameters of my OP, Offer/Copy/Traffic here is a mini course to get to 100 bux a day in one year of 10 hour a week effort.

              Start with a web site and an autoresponder, less than 100 dollars. At your autoresponder account, cut and paste the code for one of their forms. Put this on the index page of your site. About an hour of time.

              Even though you have nothing to offer, you do this first BECAUSE it will force you to think what you need.

              Offer a free report. On what? What is the niche or subject you have selected to work in...don't have one...back up and do some research on what you want to do.

              Can't write, use here, or Fiverr or other places and find someone who can, you either spend time learning or money. If you have the 10 hours a week, the first 200 will be spent on learning...which means no income for a few months while you are setting up your IM biz.

              You spend time learning or money to hire. Or both if you have the money to spend.

              There are about 101 threads which detail the funnel process, or the steps or the method...a time tested and proven method.

              So, you have a site, an autoresponder and form to get people's emails in exchange for something they want...what do they want?

              Don't know? Go back to the classroom and learn what people are buying in the niche, don't have a niche, take the slide back to square one and start again.

              You could find some cheap PLR (private label rights) and offer that report to those that sign up.

              OK, now you have a list...probably not, BECAUSE no one has seen your opt in page. Why? No traffic. What can you do? Buy some, or work on ORGANIC Search Engine Traffic...don't know what people search for...(sound of a slide whistle)...go back and use the search engines to find out what people are searching for. Don't know how? Put that on your 200 hours of learning curve.

              IF and when you get someone to visit the site, your COPY TAKES OVER. Now you can collect data,
              how many sign up, leave, opt in, NOW you can begin to analyze. Getting some traffic but no sign ups...could it be your copy? yes.

              Could it be your offer? yes/ Could it be poor traffic? Only by analytics will you know.

              If you get ANY one to sign up, you have your autoresponder send them some email, don't know how? All autoresponder services offer tutorials, and they are free, so you pay 20 bux a month and they tell you how to use their tools.

              Which is why you START with a form, from your autoresponder provider...AND learn how to use it.

              Get a web site, make sure it has Cpanel and Softaculouous, all the software you need to get started for about 5 bux a month.

              So, what do you want this to do for you? Using my MAP, my goal, 100 bux a day in a year...what will that look like?

              One sale of a 99 product? 2 sales of 50 dollar, one sale of 1000 buck service every 10 days?

              A combination? A funnel with many people being put into it, free and low cost item, and your back-ends. Don't know what a back end is? See the Kardasians. OR learn.

              A funnel usually goes from low cost, up the escalator of prices, a 25-35 buck product...a 97 dollar, a 297 a 2000 launch...an 18,000 a year Inner Circle...

              whatever you want to build. 100 bux a day probably only needs up to 297...or one "big" sale every 3 days while many smaller sales everyday.

              Give yourself 500 hours in the next year, and I again, assert that anyone can get to a 100 dollar a day IM business in one year. But, it make take half that time to LEARN as you go along...BY DOING

              and solving your problems in the direction of your goal...

              so, the end result....365 days from the start...is clearly seen before you start.

              That's the how. IM is DATA, analyzed and adjusted within the Triad of Offer/Copy/Traffic or if you prefer 4 legged tables...

              PRODUCT==PROSPECT==PROMOTION==TRAFFIC

              gjabiz
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    • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      hey there great post, but you should mention for people to TAKE ACTION!!. So many people don't take action
      And it's unfortunate...

      As usually it goes something like this:

      "So what have you done to accomplish your goal?"

      "Oh I've gone through a few products"


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    • Profile picture of the author pregyrick
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      hey there great post, but you should mention for people to TAKE ACTION!!. So many people don't take action
      Definitely Agree with you Shaunybb! without putting the call to action, will not help you to complete the task what people want them to do in your site.

      "No matter how qualified you are, you will never encounter a better life until you allow yourself to have it" - your One Step Up Pill to success!

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    • Profile picture of the author sammiejoe
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      hey there great post, but you should mention for people to TAKE ACTION!!. So many people don't take action
      So true, and also spreading yourself too thin can also be a problem. By this I mean jumping from one thing to another which can be a real problem when you are overwhelmed with information.

      It is very important to decide what you are going to focus on, take action, focus on that one thing and get that done, then move on to the next task.
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    • Profile picture of the author nated
      Originally Posted by Big Al View Post

      Nail on the head.

      I don't think simple is a starting point, I think it's everything.

      The fundamentals.
      Yes keep it simple!

      I use to over-think and analyze everything...

      Years ago I bought all of the training you could imagine.

      Too many options, there's always going to be a ton of ways to do something.

      But it's getting started and taking action that's 80% of the battle. Get yourself a good blueprint, think it through but take massive action and don't fear to fail or don't try to be perfect.

      Consistency + Taking action will get you far in your personal and professional life.

      Don't be afraid to work hard and fail - failing fast and trying again is what it's all about.

      Of course, it helps to have some idea of what you are trying to accomplish :-)

      Nate.
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      • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
        Originally Posted by nated View Post


        . Get yourself a good blueprint, think it through but take massive action and don't fear to fail or don't try to be perfect.

        Consistency + Taking action will get you far in your personal and professional life.

        Don't be afraid to work hard and fail - failing fast and trying again is what it's all about.

        Of course, it helps to have some idea of what you are trying to accomplish :-)

        Nate.
        Where did you get said "blueprint"?

        Is there ONE for everyone to use?

        My opinion, working hard and failing...is BAD advice.

        Why not work hard, and smart and KNOW what you want to accomplish, having "some idea", is a good way to spend several years chasing your tail.

        The three things in my OP

        OFFER, Copy and Traffic.

        It is a series of questions, asked of yourself BEFORE you begin to take "massive action"...too many Warriors have taken massive action for months and months and even years.

        What will you offer> To whom? Where? How much?

        Where will the traffic come from in order to see/hear/read your copy?

        Pencil this out, and you shouldn't have to fail, you get FEEDBACK on what works and what doesn't.

        The standard Warrior Forum Pablum is:

        Pick a niche. (With no HOW TO attached).
        Make or buy a product or have a service to offer.
        Drive traffic to it.

        TAKE ACTION, TAKE MASSIVE ACTION AND FAIL.

        I am taking issue with this message, there is NOT a one size fits all solution, not everyone can do the same thing.

        Why not learn first, about basic business, that is, people will spend money on what they want, not what you want to sell them.

        I really think the whole massive action/ fail, persist...is bad advice.

        gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    You nailed it....

    OFFER SOMETHING OF VALUE

    Think of every dollar you earn as a VOTE

    The issue on the ballot is whether what you offer is VALUABLE enough to get votes.

    Wrap your mind around this metaphor and your BRAIN will go into overdrive so you can WIN

    Never underestimate the power of HUMAN WILL
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      A rich man drowning in the ocean will pay anything for a life boat. The same man in the desert, you couldn't give it to.

      VALUE, the many kinds, including; market, perceived, hidden, etc., etc.

      The value of the offer is in your Prospect's mind, and your copy has to be able to help him see that.

      The streets are filled with people who voted for drugs; for heroin, crack and all kinds of things. They cast votes by the billions of dollars a year. They are probably the most willful people in America.

      Offer value, to a specific person in a given niche, or market, and let your copy and traffic tell you IF they do vote with their bucks. If not, you must examine all three things, or tweak them one at a time.

      gjabiz


      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      You nailed it....

      OFFER SOMETHING OF VALUE

      Think of every dollar you earn as a VOTE

      The issue on the ballot is whether what you offer is VALUABLE enough to get votes.

      Wrap your mind around this metaphor and your BRAIN will go into overdrive so you can WIN

      Never underestimate the power of HUMAN WILL
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      • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

        A rich man drowning in the ocean will pay anything for a life boat.
        Probably not, if they're a rich pastor. They'll probably try to scam God one more time. They will figure they'll drown and then as soon as they die.... straight up to Heaven and chillin.

        Just trying to say motivational talk and lessons is fine... but a quantum mechanics proven money equation would be worth more to a newbie than an internet marketing course with DVDs, CDs, bonuses, and ready-to-use graphics.

        People have to hold themselves accountable. Those who fail will run and tell others that the advice on Warriorforum is non-sense and is a scam.... simply because they thought things were easy, and the Warriorforum would make them rich... instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author megamind22
    Great post bro but the most important thing is to take action and make it happen cause many know what they are supposed to but are too afraid to take action. No pain no gain.
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    • Profile picture of the author SimonTW
      Take action and be comfortable with failing quickly. It is part of the process of learning.

      Examine data, tweak it, success.
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      • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
        Originally Posted by SimonTW View Post

        Take action and be comfortable with failing quickly. It is part of the process of learning.

        Examine data, tweak it, success.
        Puking on self as promised.

        More nonsense. More posting to waste time.

        Why in the world should anyone get "comfortable" with failing?

        Failing should be a motivational factor, I don't ever want to associate with a person who is comfortable with his failure. IF he learned, and tried something different, or better yet...

        if he took the time to NOT fail, and most of this kind of failure is a result of people

        taking action.

        Or MASSIVE ACTION.

        There are the 3 things in the OP.
        Offer.
        Copy.
        Traffic.

        Why take action and FAIL without first working on these 3 things, so as to NOT fail?

        IF, you are one of the "take action" guys or have a "blueprint" on what action to take...then share it.

        But, go ahead, let's hear a few more.

        gjabiz
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Make take on this Thread : Taking Massive Action without Purpose will only induce stomach
          pains and large amounts of regurgitated meals

          Seriously, good point. All the Take Massive Action cheerleaders seem to overrun this place. Nothing wrong with taking action but as Gordon pointed out it has to be highly focused and very well thought out and planned
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          • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Make take on this Thread : Taking Massive Action without Purpose will only induce stomach
            pains and large amounts of regurgitated meals

            Seriously, good point. All the Take Massive Action cheerleaders seem to overrun this place. Nothing wrong with taking action but as Gordon pointed out it has to be highly focused and very well thought out and planned
            See, I like this guy, Robert, even though we have butted heads on occasion. No two people should ever be in 100% agreement all the time. The POINT is...

            I have respect for Robert, even get his emails.

            My only issue with him, and this is perspective...is I feel he took too long in the process....BECAUSE he had some bad advice in the beginning...again, I don't know, just from his posts and emails.

            It took him awhile to sort the wheat from the chaff.

            My opinion, now and as it was 15 years ago...IS...

            If you spend a little time thinking about what you want and how to get it...you can save tons of time by NOT going down blind alleys or having false starts.

            Sure, failing forward teaches you lessons which take you closer to success...

            BUT, so does planning and THINKING before diving in.

            You don't have to agree with me. Feel free to take MASSIVE ACTION for the next couple of years...its your time, not mine.

            But if you want an honest shortcut

            which could save you years of time

            Then THINK in the beginning. I just wrote an email to a guy who wants a MAP.

            Well, you create your own map by knowing your destination. If I'm going to NYC from Akron, OH, going West or South is not a good idea, unless I want the scenic route...that is akin to taking ACTION in IM

            IF I plan the route, and start at NYC, the destination, and work my way back to Akron, then I can clearly see the route to follow...

            In the OP, I give you a big Map of Possibility via

            Offer--Copy--Traffic to get you to THINK about what, where, whom, why and HOW...before you get all revved up and have no place to go.

            The most powerful muscle car built will run out of gas if I were to drive it toward Chicago while wishing/hoping to get to NYC "someday".

            Thoughtful action, and solving problems in the direction of your goals, is much better advice that fire, ready, aim, for MOST people.

            gjabiz
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

              See, I like this guy, Robert, even though we have butted heads on occasion. No two people should ever be in 100% agreement all the time. The POINT is...

              I have respect for Robert, even get his emails.

              My only issue with him, and this is perspective...is I feel he took too long in the process....BECAUSE he had some bad advice in the beginning...again, I don't know, just from his posts and emails.

              It took him awhile to sort the wheat from the chaff.
              Uhmmm....Ohhkaaay !! Whatever makes you feel good about yourself have at it LOL
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              • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
                I only have what you have posted and sent. I feel good, no matter what.

                Felt good about myself before you started in IM. It isn't personal.

                If you feel you got to where you are today, and you couldn't have gotten there any faster, then you should feel good about yourself. I stand by my advice you were critical of before...

                ANY newbie should get to 100 bux a day income in no more than 18 months of time, and probably can far exceed that with thoughtful action.
                In fact, I believe 12 months is too long to get to the 100 a day level.

                gjabiz (feelin groovy)


                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Uhmmm....Ohhkaaay !! Whatever makes you feel good about yourself have at it LOL
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                • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                  Originally Posted by SimonTW View Post

                  Take action and be comfortable with failing quickly. It is part of the process of learning.

                  Examine data, tweak it, success.
                  "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." -- Vince Lombardi, NFL Hall of Fame


                  Gordon, I've heard Zig deliver that story about the old woman and the china. Excellent lesson about letting the prospect decide what they could afford instead of doing it for them.

                  It's a lesson many people here could take to heart.

                  How many threads and posts advise people to forget about a particular niche or market segment because "they're all broke, none of them have any money"?

                  Sometimes, it's college students. Yet I see the lie in that every spring when the local beaches are overrun with college kids, and they all seem to have plenty of money for something they really want.

                  Sometimes, like in Zig's story, it's "poor people." My wife is a cashier at Walmart, and she's always telling me about the poor people spending hundreds of dollars on junk food, premium meats, booze and tobacco. Again, they seem to have plenty of money for something they really want.

                  Mostly, though, "they don't have money" is an excuse. What's far more likely is that the person making the excuse doesn't have an offer or a presentation that leads that market segment to value what they offer over other things they can spend their money on.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by megamind22 View Post

      Great post bro but the most important thing is to take action and make it happen cause many know what they are supposed to but are too afraid to take action. No pain no gain.
      I'm going to need a diaper change soon. Listen BRO, or cuz, action is NOT the most important thing. Read this forum.

      People have been here two years and have taken all kinds of action, mostly the act of spending money on the WSO of the day.

      They took action to get here. They take action to click and read the posts. They take action buying things, including WSO and services.

      They build blogs, they have web sites, some stick with it PERSIST, some even get to the mountain top of 6 figures a year...and get a google slap back down the mountain into the valley of despair and desperation...

      ALL because they took the very foolish advice of TAKE MASSIVE ACTION.
      PERSIST,
      FAIL.
      STAY WITH IT.
      KEEP GOING.
      NEVER QUIT.

      I'm saying there is a better choice. Thoughtful action.

      One more, and I'll throw up.

      gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Finally, a thread with some substance.

    I agree, Offer - Copy - Traffic followed by tracking, data analysis, and calculating probability factors with a 3rd eye looking ahead like a psychic ninja!

    The big stink... from my perspective is the 'unknown' when a newbie enters this arena, and their expectations are ripped apart by the reality; to obtain those 3 key elements you speak of requires several pieces (technical pieces) that if not aligned or assembled properly can break the best of intentions!

    Sure, offer something of value...

    Write award winning sales copy...

    Master traffic...

    Wah-lah...sales get made!

    Sounds delightfully simplicit, and yet in reality; the research, the tools, the tech aspects, design, SEO, list building, cultivating and nurturing that list, sales copy, upsells, downsells, OTO's, etc... to most newcomers is a mighty perplexing blow to the groin. It's an exhausting amount of research, no bouts a doubt it.

    Standing back up to press on, that takes a lot of balls, as most people were SOLD a dream by a brilliant copywriter, who sold a video sales ticket to destination overnight riches... And the only destination these people arrive at is the cleaners.

    So, while I respect the fact that if it doesn't matter 'how' the sale is made, along as the sale is made, I'd be selling golden tickets too!

    But, for the record there are those here (myself included) who do not fall prey to such shortcuts, and yet to create a real solution, do the research, learn the tech, study copy, traffic, analytics, etc... takes time.

    I been on/off here for roughly 4 years between offline gigs, and the last thing I need or want is a $100 per day job strapped to a computer. To do so would replace most peoples income, and obviously allow them to scale up... but, for those seeking freedom, not gonna happen.

    For those with any real vision, with concern for credibility, liability, transparency, and who really desire to build a 6-7 figure income like myself, I have no shame in having taken my time to learn everything I can, before throwing sh!t to the wind so to speak, as many attempt to do.

    I mean if your just saying, slap up an offer, hire a copywriter, hire a web designer, and outsource all thats involved...sure 10 hours a week is plenty.

    But to learn copywriting or maybe web design or master email marketing... and to learn it all, idk man, its a lot to ingest.

    Hell, understanding sales pyschology alone could be a fulltime gig, one you are obviously well-versed at, as a copywriter.

    I agree the overall process of selling is simple. The overall assembly and selling online, to a newcomer, not so cut n dry.

    Solid advice, no argument there, just a lot left to be revealed, even in conducting research for a quality offer.

    Now, I read E. Brian Rose's ebook on selling hearing aids...he had a store up and running in a weekend, but how many years did it take before he could put the pieces together to accomplish those kind of results?

    Brilliant, no doubt. And still I'd wager, he's been at it "fo long time!"

    I for one would rather know, I can do it all myself...so, when I do launch a product, it won't be comprised of scheming sales, but rather establish a repore with the writers, and business owners I hope to one day imulate or who knows...surpass!
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      Finally, a thread with some substance.

      I agree, Offer - Copy - Traffic followed by tracking, data analysis, and calculating probability factors with a 3rd eye looking ahead like a psychic ninja!

      The big stink... from my perspective is the 'unknown' when a newbie enters this arena, and their expectations are ripped apart by the reality; to obtain those 3 key elements you speak of requires several pieces (technical pieces) that if not aligned or assembled properly can break the best of intentions!

      Sure, offer something of value...

      Write award winning sales copy...

      Master traffic...

      Wah-lah...sales get made!

      Sounds delightfully simplicit, and yet in reality; the research, the tools, the tech aspects, design, SEO, list building, cultivating and nurturing that list, sales copy, upsells, downsells, OTO's, etc... to most newcomers is a mighty perplexing blow to the groin. It's an exhausting amount of research, no bouts a doubt it.

      Standing back up to press on, that takes a lot of balls, as most people were SOLD a dream by a brilliant copywriter, who sold a video sales ticket to destination overnight riches... And the only destination these people arrive at is the cleaners.

      So, while I respect the fact that if it doesn't matter 'how' the sale is made, along as the sale is made, I'd be selling golden tickets too!

      But, for the record there are those here (myself included) who do not fall prey to such shortcuts, and yet to create a real solution, do the research, learn the tech, study copy, traffic, analytics, etc... takes time.

      I been on/off here for roughly 4 years between offline gigs, and the last thing I need or want is a $100 per day job strapped to a computer. To do so would replace most peoples income, and obviously allow them to scale up... but, for those seeking freedom, not gonna happen.

      For those with any real vision, with concern for credibility, liability, transparency, and who really desire to build a 6-7 figure income like myself, I have no shame in having taken my time to learn everything I can, before throwing sh!t to the wind so to speak, as many attempt to do.

      I mean if your just saying, slap up an offer, hire a copywriter, hire a web designer, and outsource all thats involved...sure 10 hours a week is plenty.

      But to learn copywriting or maybe web design or master email marketing... and to learn it all, idk man, its a lot to ingest.

      Hell, understanding sales pyschology alone could be a fulltime gig, one you are obviously well-versed at, as a copywriter.

      I agree the overall process of selling is simple. The overall assembly and selling online, to a newcomer, not so cut n dry.

      Solid advice, no argument there, just a lot left to be revealed, even in conducting research for a quality offer.

      Now, I read E. Brian Rose's ebook on selling hearing aids...he had a store up and running in a weekend, but how many years did it take before he could put the pieces together to accomplish those kind of results?

      Brilliant, no doubt. And still I'd wager, he's been at it "fo long time!"

      I for one would rather know, I can do it all myself...so, when I do launch a product, it won't be comprised of scheming sales, but rather establish a repore with the writers, and business owners I hope to one day imulate or who knows...surpass!
      This ^^^^. No nonsense and great 'hole plugging'. Ought to make it a Stickie

      You make some key points about writing Copy. And that it can take years to be able to do it effectively.
      Some even a lifetime if ever that.

      I have found that along with the nuances of setting up an online business the ability to communicate in a effective and very diligent manner is so paramount.

      It really is !!!

      And sure there are some things you can outsource related to this . And you probably should, But there are some things that you need to focus on and learn yourself. And the more you practice and study the better you will become with your communication skills and the more efficient you will be in transposing your thoughts
      down on paper !! ( well on your computer in this case lol)

      It will serve you very far in this Industry and give you an advantage over your competitors if you optimize it

      Originally Posted by art72 View Post


      But, for the record there are those here (myself included) who do not fall prey to such shortcuts, and yet to create a real solution, do the research, learn the tech, study copy, traffic, analytics, etc... takes time.
      Bingo.I think long term if you want to continue to really grow and prosper in this biz you hit it right on the nail.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      You make a strong argument...
      about any business.

      I am currently talking to people who are considering throwing 25k at me, and so far, their ROI has been scarily low...some wanting to make 5k (US dollars) a month, or 60 k per year.

      My response is, not worth MY time. Why not set a 4-5 year goal into the high 6, 7 or even 8 figures...which would give one the freedom to pursue their other interests? Once that has been pointed out, they get why I set a 4 (FOUR) year program in place. And that is for an experienced business person.

      So, from my perspective, ANY real business is going to need to time to grow and IF the Entrepreneur comes into it without business knowledge, it may take longer...which

      makes Franchises and Distributorships so attractive. The Franchise comes with the marketing and back end know how, it is for the most part a cookie cutter business and one needs to follow and STICK with the plan.

      In the off line forum, there has been a lot of discussion about selling advertising, and one vehicle which pops up in the discussion is

      The Coffee News a $10,000.00 franchise, which could produce a 6 figure income although most of their franchisees with a single area, are in the 40 to 60k range, they have bought themselves a job, and most need to work that 30 to 40 hour week to attain it. Not all, of course.

      IF an experienced ad salesman were to get a Coffee New franchise, he might be able to create a mid 6 figure income from it, BECAUSE he brought knowledge with him.

      I take NO argument with the REAL world, or reality. I live there too.

      Then we have the Warrior Forum. And, quite frankly, making blanket statements about anyone's product... and using "scheming" as you did with

      it won't be comprised of scheming sales,

      Is not to be found in anything I've written about, but you are accurate with this:


      I mean if your just saying, slap up an offer, hire a copywriter, hire a web designer, and outsource all thats involved...sure 10 hours a week is plenty.

      Well, except for the "slap up an offer" ( I infer negative tone, but could be wrong)...

      AND, in describing the 500 TOTAL hours it will take, and saying 200 to 250 of those will be in learning...

      YEA, that's exactly what I am telling ANY new person who comes to the WARRIOR FORUM, and is interested in Internet Marketing...that if one is to use the 10 hours a week...

      focused on getting to the 100 dollar a day level in one year...

      it can be done. AND, it doesn't have to be done by "scheming" or by offering crap products slapped up...it can be done...;

      by following tested and proven methods of building a funnel, a list, offers.

      I would hope, that the 100 dollar a day goal, for 10 hours a week, would be a very part time or side line income stream...and certainly not aimed at or intended to be offered as advice to anyone...

      anywhere, at any time...

      as a way to reach financial freedom or even to surpass one's mentor.

      IT is, advice, which can be taken, ignored or attacked (doesn't really matter) as it is freely given at the Warrior Forum.

      I, personally, don't project my goals, my desires, what I want to do or to be able to do...

      upon any other person, and especially on the influx of new people to the WARRIOR FORUM...

      who are coming here looking for possibilities to improve their lives and may find that 100 bux a day, after 500 hours of effort, to be a worthwhile goal for themselves.

      To each his own. And, not opinion, but fact...one really doesn't need to know everything, when much of the efforts needed have become relatively cheap

      commodities

      which can be bought at most Freelancer Sites, including this one, it could be, for many, a waste of THEIR time to learn how to write copy or the psychology of business when it is readily and cheaply available.

      But, we all choose how we want to spend OUR time.

      gjabiz
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      Finally, a thread with some substance.

      I agree, Offer - Copy - Traffic followed by tracking, data analysis, and calculating probability factors with a 3rd eye looking ahead like a psychic ninja!

      The big stink... from my perspective is the 'unknown' when a newbie enters this arena, and their expectations are ripped apart by the reality; to obtain those 3 key elements you speak of requires several pieces (technical pieces) that if not aligned or assembled properly can break the best of intentions!

      Sure, offer something of value...

      Write award winning sales copy...

      Master traffic...

      Wah-lah...sales get made!

      Sounds delightfully simplicit, and yet in reality; the research, the tools, the tech aspects, design, SEO, list building, cultivating and nurturing that list, sales copy, upsells, downsells, OTO's, etc... to most newcomers is a mighty perplexing blow to the groin. It's an exhausting amount of research, no bouts a doubt it.

      Standing back up to press on, that takes a lot of balls, as most people were SOLD a dream by a brilliant copywriter, who sold a video sales ticket to destination overnight riches... And the only destination these people arrive at is the cleaners.

      So, while I respect the fact that if it doesn't matter 'how' the sale is made, along as the sale is made, I'd be selling golden tickets too!

      But, for the record there are those here (myself included) who do not fall prey to such shortcuts, and yet to create a real solution, do the research, learn the tech, study copy, traffic, analytics, etc... takes time.

      I been on/off here for roughly 4 years between offline gigs, and the last thing I need or want is a $100 per day job strapped to a computer. To do so would replace most peoples income, and obviously allow them to scale up... but, for those seeking freedom, not gonna happen.

      For those with any real vision, with concern for credibility, liability, transparency, and who really desire to build a 6-7 figure income like myself, I have no shame in having taken my time to learn everything I can, before throwing sh!t to the wind so to speak, as many attempt to do.

      I mean if your just saying, slap up an offer, hire a copywriter, hire a web designer, and outsource all thats involved...sure 10 hours a week is plenty.

      But to learn copywriting or maybe web design or master email marketing... and to learn it all, idk man, its a lot to ingest.

      Hell, understanding sales pyschology alone could be a fulltime gig, one you are obviously well-versed at, as a copywriter.

      I agree the overall process of selling is simple. The overall assembly and selling online, to a newcomer, not so cut n dry.

      Solid advice, no argument there, just a lot left to be revealed, even in conducting research for a quality offer.

      Now, I read E. Brian Rose's ebook on selling hearing aids...he had a store up and running in a weekend, but how many years did it take before he could put the pieces together to accomplish those kind of results?

      Brilliant, no doubt. And still I'd wager, he's been at it "fo long time!"

      I for one would rather know, I can do it all myself...so, when I do launch a product, it won't be comprised of scheming sales, but rather establish a repore with the writers, and business owners I hope to one day imulate or who knows...surpass!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    focused on getting to the 100 dollar a day level in one year...

    it can be done. AND, it doesn't have to be done by "scheming" or by offering crap products slapped up...it can be done...;

    by following tested and proven methods
    I try to tell people this, all the time. They mostly want it by next Tuesday. Sooner if possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Being in the latter half of my fifth decade, and reading study after study of how I may never get to officially retire, I've been taking a deep look at the subject.

      One topic that is very popular is calculating how much one needs in their nest egg to live comfortably without worrying about outliving their money. Many of the models aim to withdraw from 2% to 4% each year, which allows for a high probability that the nest egg will last at least 30 years.

      $100/day is about $36k per year. Using the above formula, that $36k is roughly equivalent to a nest egg of $900k to $1.8 million. If one is playing catch-up with their investing, that's a significant chunk.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    One thing thats for sure, those who are actually planning and strategizing a retirement plan seem to all have in 'common' is; the 'sense' to know; "that real investments require time, energy, effort, and/or money, and are conditioned and disciplined by a grounded reality, and, a well calculated mathematical probabilty of success."

    500 hours is in fact a resonable time table to start earning a $100 day, again... No argument there.

    However, as Brent and several other seasoned business owners (online and offline) seem to understand, is that success is generally not attained by next week.

    And for those who do 'launch' 6-7 figure businesses in what may appear overnight, will usually have been heavily invested in painstaking relentless pursuits of knowledge.

    Obviously, Henry Ford was not well educated per se, but he new which buttons to push to get answers, and more importantly; results by organizing the talents of others.

    Many times, the opportnity is right in our path, and we fail to see the simplicity, as a result leaving us wondering;" can it really be that easy?"

    My 17 year old daughter is a FB selfie taking beauty queen, who loves all things make-up.

    After e-planing how she could be getting paid promoting the stuff she loves...she finally lended me her ear to explain "What affiliate marketing is?"

    It was a great test for me actually, cause she don't know squat about none of this stuff yet. [evil grin...]

    Any who, she starts going off about some YouTube chick; Jaqeuline Hill... 2.5 M subscribers. I look to see if she's using the real estate, cha ching....she's banking!

    My daught goes on a couple days later after I complimented this Jacqeuline Hill's YouTube success, and says;"ya know she has her own line of make-up too!"

    "HELLO" - blows my mind, as I now suspect she's buying bulk white label righted products and branding her business and label too!

    Then, I think;"Holy shit I've learned a massive amount of stuff in 3-4 years."

    I was green as hell when I found this forum.

    So, as new threads appear daily, largely focused on "the need for money now" front lines... we could spend 10 hours per week explaining (defending) the newcomers that they bought into a pipe dream... or whom have formulated some misconception that successful people will just 'hand over' their solution...and ironically, many of us could by creating a product that will teach them and pay them to promote it!!!

    And for as many people that line up to buy 'shiny objects', I have struggled not to fall into the temptation of thinking; Caveate emptor..."Buyer Beware"...and rather than answer them with reason, spend that time selling them false hope, the dream, or in essence, exactly what they are asking for!.

    I will say this, when the time comes, I believe; all the years of patience Ive dedicated to study, should compensate me for every minute I devoted without pay...handsomely!

    I was and continue applying the very 4-5 year window you speak of to more study than practice, which may not work for most... But like any major investment, that time compounded will be more valuable, especially if the absense of capital is not readily available to 'buy-in' or outsource the menial tasks in the now...or invest into say a franchise or ready made opp.

    God forbid, I'm wrong... As that would suck!

    Time Will Tell!
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      (edited)

      500 hours is in fact a reasonable time table to start earning a $100 day, again... No argument there.
      Then what about a $1,000.00 day?

      What is reasonable, in time, money and energy to get to that level?

      When speaking of any given dollar amount per day, we, of course are talking averages. The 100 bux could be 40 one day and 160 the next, or if doing a launch, most of that comes in over a few days.

      The 2,000 dollar product launch by so-called gurus is a pretty standard operating procedure these days.

      They hold contests, give away cars, or other trinkets, and they compete for the bragging rights, and also, the top dogs could make 100,000 dollars in a few hours.

      But, they are not average people like most of us.

      How can we scale up, from the hundred dollar days, to the 1000 dollar days?

      My opinion is; it has to do with the markets and niches one has chosen to work in.

      Consider the number of units and the price. Selling 18,000 dollar Inner Circle memberships or 25k done for you businesses require fewer customers than selling a 25 buck ebook (no Duh!).

      But, and this is due with the start up thinking, MANY begin without an end game in sight. They only have a financial goal, and believe that once they reach that, they have succeeded.

      Many Warriors have reached upper 5 and even 6 figure incomes only to have the Google snot slapped out of them and they very quickly slide back down the mountain. Most often because they build their sand castles on someone's private beach.

      To get to 1000 a day @25 per unit means a daily AVERAGE sale of 40, doable, but needing a lot of traffic.

      @1000 per unit, only ONE a day
      @2000 one every other day

      and so on. In the USA, if a person earns 250,000 per year, they are in the upper income %, and that translates, roughly, to 1000 dollar days for 250 days per year, approximately 5k a week for 50 weeks.

      It has to do with THINKING, about the end result, the goal and the PROCESS.

      Going to the OP,
      offer-copy-traffic

      As you elevate your offer in $$ you get more targeted traffic and the copy becomes close to person to person communications, a RELATIONSHIP is built, more often as not, when you begin to offer upper end products.

      Now here is the contentious view...

      IF a person can learn to earn 100 per day in 500 hours (10 hours a week)...why can't they learn the steps it takes to make 1000 per day in 1000 hours? I think they can.

      gjabiz

      PS. An idea, food for thought: a guy can make a living driving an ice cream truck, but a guy selling an ice cream FRANCHISE can make a tad bit more money, eh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Asadullah72
    Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

    You need to OFFER something, a product or service, which other people can exchange value for.

    Some say, you need to SELL something, although with the Barter Economy in full force, you don't have to trade money or currency, your TIME, knowledge or skill can also be used.

    But, OFFER something.

    Then you need "copy" (words, pictures, audio, video) to present your offer to them...

    And you need THEM...readers, viewers, listeners.

    Or 1-a Product/Service, 2- a sales presentation and 3-eyeballs on it (good eyeballs have an interest).

    A good product, although good is subjective, the one you choose may not be universally appraised as good...

    Good copy
    Good traffic.

    Although good product is subjective, good copy and good traffic are NOT.

    They can be measured and analyzed, it is where many newbies go awry. IM is much about (for the most part) knowing and understanding conversion rates, the metrics and interpreting the data.

    Now a word about the starting point, which many of you are told to begin with niches.

    Let's look at a market. Golf. A niche; Senior Golfers...a segment; Senior golfers living in warm states who play golf all year...another segment...Men or Women.

    Golf balls are a necessity of the game, thus, a huge MARKET. AND a lot of competition with many big time players. Can a small outfit or one man band compete?

    YES. IF they have a good product, good copy and good traffic.

    Here is some advice for the new person, instead of starting with a profitable niche, one which can make your rich...start with how you can

    ENRICH a segment of the niche. What do you have to offer?

    And if you have NOTHING, then you have to acquire something, most often via affiliate marketing, which the niche has an itch for and they scratch their itch with their credit cards.

    So, what do you have to offer? TO WHOM? HOW?

    A good starting point might be to take a good look at yourself, and note what you are spending money on. In the golf example, if you play golf, what do you buy, from whom, and how often and now much?

    If you just want to sit home and play games, perhaps a little inspiration...

    Forbes Welcome

    But one thing, for sure, you can get paid for gaming, putting on makeup, being silly...

    but you won't get paid for doing nothing.

    What to do?

    Find something to offer.
    Have good copy for it.
    Get good traffic.

    Simplistic? Sure, but a starting point none the less.

    gjabiz
    Yes keep it simple!
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by Asadullah72 View Post

      Yes keep it simple!
      OK, I get you want your link displayed. Now about your gig.

      The reason I would NEVER buy from you is simple. You demonstrate, via your writing, you don't have a good grasp of written English.

      Put spaces after your commas and periods.

      "A successful campaign DOESN'T possible..." is what you show. This one error, would be enough for many people to ignore you. If you meant, "isn't or is not", then change it.

      Before you try to hijack threads with one sentence fly byes, make sure what you are offering in you much needed to be seen sig file, is, at the very least...readable, OK?

      gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    The scales they weigh success are often obscurred by those who lack the foresight to know, or accept the leverage required consists of repetition... Repeating a process, over and over again.

    I definitely agree a person who thinks $5k per week is attainable will eventually come to terms with using a bigger crowbar to get more done.

    Thus, creating or refining a system that works to generate figures outside the scope of say their individual ability, as was so with my one man show ice cream gig... I knew I had hit a ceiling.

    It's clear, if one proves a system works, and can duplicate it (be with employees, franchised, or even digital publications to name only a few examples) - YES, that $5k starts to shrink, as does the time, money, and efforts of the individual.

    Therefore, to those who 'enter' any business with a longterm vision, should not dismiss or even limit themselves from the onset of any business model they choose to pursue.

    Much like was so with my ice cream truck, everyone thought I was insane, and failure was inevitable.

    While I admit some regret NOT scaling up, the proof that it was 'duplicated' and proven to work again in building a second unit for my friends girlfriend (who also did very well for years)... Should've been the "Aha moment" I needed to see the mechanics of making more with less effort, simply by duplicating that process.

    In a 'test' with an affiliate marketing product a few years back, I made my first online sales through a few well written articles and reviews, leading to a sale, and my first affiliate commission online.

    The real test was; "can I get paid to write, despite having no formal education, or academic backgroung?"

    Answer: YES, I could, and now I had!

    Better still, a total of roughly 20 more sales commissions were earned from the 4 written pieces (that took maybe 3-4 hours to write) over a period of 3.5 years.

    At $30 per commission, that 4 hours work compounded into roughly $600 or $150 per hour!

    Not bad for a flunkie...whoda-thunkit?

    I realized; this is HUGE...

    BUT... I was relying on someone elses product! Google! And too many loose facters to start scaling it.

    Now, had I 'duplicated' that process, and just wrote 1 article a day (in my spare time) and continued with similar results... In just a few years time - those writings would have, and likely still would be bringing in bank!

    I think the 'internet' is the biggest freaking crowbar EVER, and if leveraged properly, there is no ceiling to what one can earn, if they take action, duplicate what works, and whether by the own time, skills, and money...Or someone elses, the numbers can be scaled, the process duplicated, and the desired financial amount can be easily attained in a relatively short period of time.

    Again, my own worst enemy was me...

    Eventhough my process was working, the product & the mechanics of using someone elses product, and some reliance on SEO (organic traffic) made me rethink my longterm vision...and in essence, opened a 3.5 year study of the tools, resources, tech stuff, and marketing strategies needed... To take writing for 'big money' to a new level.

    One that by choice, I have personally post-poned simply to increase my odds and my knowledge...so, when it does get set in motion, the respect, credibility, and leverage of other successful marketers will (if all goes well) be a major role in the numbers I am aiming for, and it is those numbers that will (when reached) enable my freedom!

    Yes... Everything is scalable, some just choose higher mountains to conquer from the onset than others who feel a hill is a suitable starting place.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    1 - Become an expert at 1 traffic strategy (FB PPC,Google Adwords,SEO,Affiliates)
    2 - Get really good at conversions (CRO,email marketing,webinars,etc)
    3 - Learn how to manage your money so you don't sqaunder all of your earnings and leave the industry prematurely.
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Sorry, this is more gibberish.
      Can't argue with number 1, having expertise at traffic strategies is important.
      But number 2?

      Get good at conversions? Of what?

      And 3 is for whom?

      Again, I defend the thread, because I started it...and this has no value and adds nothing to the discussion.

      Get good at conversions????? Silliest thing I've read today (but it is still early in my day).

      gjabiz


      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      1 - Become an expert at 1 traffic strategy (FB PPC,Google Adwords,SEO,Affiliates)
      2 - Get really good at conversions (CRO,email marketing,webinars,etc)
      3 - Learn how to manage your money so you don't sqaunder all of your earnings and leave the industry prematurely.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post


        Get good at conversions????? Silliest thing I've read today (but it is still early in my day).

        gjabiz
        Try telling that to the World Cult Leaders Consortium...

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      • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
        What's so silly about getting good at conversions?

        Ryan Deiss devotes a large part of his seminar (Traffic and Conversion Summit) to the subject of conversions...I'm guessing it must be important.

        I'm curious,what was the point of your thread in the first place?


        Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

        Sorry, this is more gibberish.
        Can't argue with number 1, having expertise at traffic strategies is important.
        But number 2?

        Get good at conversions? Of what?

        And 3 is for whom?

        Again, I defend the thread, because I started it...and this has no value and adds nothing to the discussion.

        Get good at conversions????? Silliest thing I've read today (but it is still early in my day).

        gjabiz
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

          What's so silly about getting good at conversions?

          Ryan Deiss devotes a large part of his seminar (Traffic and Conversion Summit) to the subject of conversions...I'm guessing it must be important.

          I'm curious,what was the point of your thread in the first place?
          I get what you are saying, Tyronne. Dig deeper, and you'll see that choice of offer and the right copy are the heart of conversions.

          Get the offer and the copy right, then present it to enough of the right people (aka, 'targeted traffic'), and the conversions will take care of themselves.

          Simply saying 'get good at conversions' is almost as bad as the folks who chant "take massive action" as the solution to every business problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author radegoroye
    Hello gjabiz, I am a newbie to internet marketing. Need help for a breakthrough. I have a website, affilate link, how do I match these two to load it into an ad network as a direct linking or landing page. Please SOS. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
      Originally Posted by radegoroye View Post

      Hello gjabiz, I am a newbie to internet marketing. Need help for a breakthrough. I have a website, affilate link, how do I match these two to load it into an ad network as a direct linking or landing page. Please SOS. Thanks
      Well...you haven't given us anything to work with.

      Why not create a sig file to your website? What sort of affiliate products or services are you offering?

      I don't know what your definition of an "ad network" means and what you think you want to do.

      It sounds like you want to link your affiliate offer somewhere? I can't help, if that is your plan, maybe someone else might?

      IF that is your plan, it certainly isn't a strategy I would use or advise anyone to use.

      Care to share what your plan is and say you have 2 of the 3 (or as Meatloaf might say, "ain't bad")..

      offer, copy which means you are looking for TRAFFIC?

      gjabiz
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    Excellent post. For my 2 cents worth if you are just starting out you should also make sure you fully understand what "targeted" traffic is all about (free and/or paid depending on budget and time requirements) and then look for the best converting sales funnel you can find. If you are unaware of either of these 2 things then you are headed for failure. Focus on learning about and implementing these 2 things (take action) and together with your excellent advice a new comer would have a walk up start with thier online marketing.
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