Buying "organic" search traffic - yes or no?

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Let's say i'm looking to buy "organic" search traffic from all those places that offer it. The idea is: they will type in my keyword into Google, then of all the sites on the page they will click specifically on my page and Google will notice and supposedly put my website up. However...

I noticed it's impossible to buy less than 500 clicks per day. My site right now averages 40 Google Search clicks per day, even the keyword itself divided among all sites on the first page doesn't have 500! Won't Google notice this abnormality??

i would think that a much better way would be to get a more customized traffic - 30-50 clicks per day, 3-5 pages per visit, bookmark etc? has anyone tried?
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  • Profile picture of the author trip3980
    no. you want loyalty you can buy loyalty at least not directly. for example company X has strong loyalty and you want that loyalty then buy company x and integrate your product or service seamlessly so the consumers who are loyal to that brand don't feel like their brand is being jeopardized.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    I'm not sure what you mean. You're talking about PPC - advertising with Google Adwords for example?

    Why is it impossible to buy less than 500 clicks per day?

    I don't think that's true at all.

    You simply pay per click - for whatever clicks you get. There isn't a minimum or a maximum.

    Maybe I'm missing something.
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    • Profile picture of the author 100gram
      Marc,

      I wasn't talking about PPC, i was talking about companies selling "organic" search traffic. It costs very little but the traffic isn't real - no one is going to buy anything - it's only used to manipulate your Google position or Alexa rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by 100gram View Post

    Let's say i'm looking to buy "organic" search traffic from all those places that offer it.

    Flawed thinking and a waste of your money.

    Assuming you have done your market research and understand where your perfect customers can be found online . . .

    You want to get links from those places that will send you buyers. Google wants to see that you are being linked to from very relevant and specific sites of authority in your niche. Do your keyword searches then find the top sites in your niche from the SERPs. Those are the places where you want to be found. They will be different for every niche.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Marc Rodill View Post

      I'm not sure what you mean. You're talking about PPC - advertising with Google Adwords for example?

      Why is it impossible to buy less than 500 clicks per day?

      I don't think that's true at all.

      You simply pay per click - for whatever clicks you get. There isn't a minimum or a maximum.

      Maybe I'm missing something.
      Marc, you're missing something.

      He's not talking about Adwords. He's talking about hiring someone to do a search, scroll down to the buyer's serp, and click it. The (flawed) theory is that Google will notice the large number of clicks and assign that result increased relevance and therefore higher ranking.

      It lives in the same category of buying YouTube views, Twitter followers and Facebook likes. It's a pathetic attempt to game the system and shove a metaphorical rolled-up tube sock in your site's pants.

      OP, the reason they want to sell 500 clicks per day on a single URL is because that's how their bot works. What you suggest is too much work.

      TL;DR version: Sounds like a good way to get banned.
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      • Profile picture of the author 100gram
        John,

        thanks for the input. However... let's say your competitor is in position # 1 and you are in position # 2. We hire 50 guys, each does a search and clicks on # 1 position, spends exactly 1 second on it and hits the Back button in Chrome and then comes to your site # 2 and spends 3 min. on it.

        Let's leave out the moral side of it for now, i wouldn't necessarily do it but: what makes you think it doesn't work?
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        • Profile picture of the author writeaway
          Originally Posted by 100gram View Post

          John,

          thanks for the input. However... let's say your competitor is in position # 1 and you are in position # 2. We hire 50 guys, each does a search and clicks on # 1 position, spends exactly 1 second on it and hits the Back button in Chrome and then comes to your site # 2 and spends 3 min. on it.

          Let's leave out the moral side of it for now, i wouldn't necessarily do it but: what makes you think it doesn't work?
          You would be assuming that Google's algo ranks primarily on BOUNCE RATE. It doesn't. It considers 200+ other signals.
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          • Profile picture of the author 100gram
            Understood but to be quite honest i think i have a point. I think it would have a very noticeable impacts assuming all other factors are equal between me and my competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author 100gram
      Steve,

      Respectfully i think links alone are of thing of the past. Google looks at how often visitors bookmark your site in Chrome, how much time they spend on it etc. Hence this traffic is so popular. if Google sees that your site is being clicked on it moves it up, at least this is the idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    So is this about SEO then? If "Google notices his website and puts it up". In the rankings? So buying back links? Still not sure what that has to do with 500 clicks.

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    • Profile picture of the author 100gram
      Marc,

      the more visitors come to your site through Google and the more time they spend on your site the more Google likes you. That's how they evaluate your content - by user behaviour: bookmarks, pages per visit, time per visit etc. So i were to fake user interest on your site by sending you fake visitors who will interact with your site it's supposed to go up on Google, at least this is the thinking behind these offers.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
        Originally Posted by 100gram View Post

        Marc,

        the more visitors come to your site through Google and the more time they spend on your site the more Google likes you. That's how they evaluate your content - by user behaviour: bookmarks, pages per visit, time per visit etc. So i were to fake user interest on your site by sending you fake visitors who will interact with your site it's supposed to go up on Google, at least this is the thinking behind these offers.
        I would think by default that if you're paying for fake visitors to your site, then it's highly unlikely that they're going to spend a lot of time there. They're just there to get paid to click. I feel like it defeats the purpose.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    Gotcha. So basically a method to try to manipulate and game the system.

    Yeah I don't think that's how it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnrichardjack
    I don't think you should buy traffic. I think google will penalize you eventually. You should try to get targeted traffic naturally by visiting social media sites and creating a following on twitter, facebook and pinterest for your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kherk Roldan
    if you feel buying organic traffic is best for you then buy it, if not don't go for it.

    I don't recommend buying organic traffic
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by 100gram View Post

      John,

      thanks for the input. However... let's say your competitor is in position # 1 and you are in position # 2. We hire 50 guys, each does a search and clicks on # 1 position, spends exactly 1 second on it and hits the Back button in Chrome and then comes to your site # 2 and spends 3 min. on it.

      Let's leave out the moral side of it for now, i wouldn't necessarily do it but: what makes you think it doesn't work?
      If the sites in question are small-time enough to be influenced by that small a number, it might work for awhile.

      The thing is, this kind of behavior leaves footprints. Doorway pages left footprints and were suitably dealt with. Same for the various keyword stuffing schemes.

      If your 50 guys repeat that pattern over and over again, it's going to raise red flags. And Google has enough experience with unnatural behavior through its advertising venues (primarily tracking click fraud in Adwords on both the search and content networks) that a scheme like you describe likely won't live long.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    The 50 guys you hire are going to stand out from the rest of your actual organic traffic - which of course their stats, CTR, bounce rate, time on site, etc. will remain steady over time, unlike the guys you hired.. Like John said, Google is experienced with click fraud. It sounds like a waste of time because the result will be short lived. Better to just have great content and quality links so you succeed long-term.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
    Do not do this.

    Google wants to give people the best result, so why not just create the best result and let the algorithm take you to the top?
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    • Profile picture of the author 100gram
      Thanks for everyone's input!

      I was asking only about the fact: does it work or not. Most of the replies are about whether it should be done or not. I also agree that in the long-term you can't rely on this strategy forever.
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      • Profile picture of the author BenJackson
        Originally Posted by 100gram View Post

        Thanks for everyone's input!

        I was asking only about the fact: does it work or not. Most of the replies are about whether it should be done or not. I also agree that in the long-term you can't rely on this strategy forever.
        There is evidence that click-through rates effect search engine rankings. Google measures when people visit results and do/do not return to the SERPs. The metric is called "time to long click": Why You Need To Understand Google's Obsession With Time To Long Click

        In theory, the click service would work. In practice, I'm quite certain it will be disastrous which is why am I recommending you do not do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I find an easy test to find out of a method works or not is to find out if
    the company you are buying the traffic from uses that same method for
    their business. So often I see people selling tools and strategies they
    don't use themselves.

    For example, if you are selling a WordPress sales letter template, then
    I would expect that the sales letter you are using to sell this product
    was made by that product. Make sense?

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    • Profile picture of the author 100gram
      Ray, makes total sense but how will i know if they are using these traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Focus on writing really good titles & descriptions that will naturally attract clicks to your site. What you're suggesting is a waste of your time and money and a good way to get your site penalized.
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