burn water for fuel

15 years ago

I assume you bought domains on turning water into fuel? If so, drop it. At least that's my opinion. Seems like a scam to me. Never looked into it; but wouldn't SOMEONE you actually know be doing this if turning water into fuel actually worked??

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ss442

15 years ago

This might be a good time or place to see if you can sell them in "Water for Fuel" forums. I know there are a lot of folks that are hot about the topic because there really is substance to the technology. Even though fuel prices are lower than last summer, they aren't going to stay that way and inventors and back yard mechanics are still working at a fever pitch to build a perfect system.

From what I've read and seen there has been a car and a truck that achieved that goal in the US recently but are still not "practical" yet. I've seen the Dan Dingle video but I don't know what has transpired since I believe he sold the car that was reported as running on water.

An appraisal might be helpful but, you'd have to shell out a few bucks for it.

You might consider putting up a static WordPress website directory on W4Fuel or something if you have a hosting account.

Another thought, I don't know where you picked up the domain but there are services where you can "park" your domain and earn adsense revenue. I think Godaddy charges a few buck a month for that but others in this forum may have some ideas and experience with that.

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CDawson

Banned 15 years ago

I wouldn't say it is a scam, there are atleast 3-4 clickbank products on the water for fuel niche. It seems like they are saying that you can replace your vehicle's fuel tank into a water tank. In my opinion, I think they just tell you how you can mix fuel with water or something along those lines.

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theimdude

15 years ago

Originally Posted by CDawson

I wouldn't say it is a scam, there are atleast 3-4 clickbank products on the water for fuel niche. It seems like they are saying that you can replace your vehicle's fuel tank into a water tank. In my opinion, I think they just tell you how you can mix fuel with water or something along those lines.

Need to correct hear. It is not about putting water into you gas tank

You extract the hydrogen from the water and the gas is fed into the inlet manifold. That is the hybrid version. Full units can be done as well. I have purchased the water4gas stuff and also made nearly 3k on CB a year ago.
It is not a scam as many are using it and reporting it works. I just haven't had the time.

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Tracey_Meagher

15 years ago

I tried this niche once with Google ppc and it completely bombed. I got nobody clicking at all. I would let it drop.

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InternetMarketingIQ

15 years ago

Your title and your body text are kind of disjointed.

You can not burn water... but you can separate Hydrogen from Oxygen HHO gas then burn the hydrogen.

How many people have the skill to actually build these thing? Who knows?

But alternative energy sources are increasing in interest... not declining.

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

It doesn't SEEM like a scam, it IS a scam. Just because there are "3-4 clickbank products" for it doesn't mean it's not. Heck, if all it takes is a product or two on CB for somethnig to be legit, then I'm going to lose 100 pounds, be the healthiest person EVER, and be wealthy enough to put Bill Gates to shame.

But that's not the real issue of the OP.

My thoughts are that you should hold on to the domains until gas prices hit the $4/gallon mark again. That will make it a seller's market for such domains.

All the best,
Michael

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theimdude

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

It doesn't SEEM like a scam, it IS a scam. Just because there are "3-4 clickbank products" for it doesn't mean it's not. Heck, if all it takes is a product or two on CB for somethnig to be legit, then I'm going to lose 100 pounds, be the healthiest person EVER, and be wealthy enough to put Bill Gates to shame.

Oh well the method does work as I have spoken to people that is using it.
The actual method have been proven long before water4gas but certain forces have suppressed it. Saying it is a scam is saying it is not true that water is not made up of hydrogen. But you statement about CB product got me worried now as what you are saying is that or sort of mentioning it is that most the stuff on there is a scam which make just about the whole internet a scam.

Did you know you can run a car on corn, coal, sugar cane , old cooking oil and the list goes on? I am not talking about make a steam driven car and burning the stuff either. Did you also know that you can power a farm with chicken s%$t or power a whole school with human s%^t

If the domains is good keyword on the subject them otherwise dump them. Put a few articles on the subject on them with the CB products and make some money.

Just found this. An african country is going to be running cars on human waste
http://allafrica.com/stories/200906020542.html

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Baystreet

15 years ago

100% scam in my opinion.

I just read a coulple of books, $20 Per Gallon and Hot, Flat and Crowded, that were real eye openers.

Fuel prices came back down because of the global recession but that is only a temporary situation. The trend is higher and higher.

Unfortunately, once gas hits $4, $5 and $6 per gallon it will be a profitable scam once again.

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snapper 15 years ago

The theory is not a scam but the products may be. I think google banned adwords ads for water4gas which hit the sellers of the product pretty hard. I don't think google would have banned the ads unless they had good grounds to do that.

As for the theory...water has the two key elements that are required to run a car - hydrogen and oxygen. gasoline is made up of hydrogen and so is water...in fact just about everyone knows water as H2O or 2 parts hydrogen to 1 part oxygen. It has always been the problem that it takes more energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen in water than what it produces.

The water4gas products claim that they can successfully separate the hydrogen and oxygen of water with less energy than what is produced - but as to the authenticity of this claim - I am not sure.

The technology has been around for decades - heck even my father who is 70 remembers separating water into hydrogen and oxygen is a school science experiment, but it took more energy to separate than what was produced.

As for the domain names - I would hang onto them because if it is possible to separate hydrogen and water efficiently down the track, and the oil companies don't own the patent! then think of the possibilities.

Sorry almost got suckered into discussing conspiricy theories there.
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Steve Faber

15 years ago

There is an honest to goodness sports car using the system. It better not be a scam, it's execs are all pretty well regarded auto industry people. The car also costs about $80k. At that price, if it didn't work, you'd gfet your A** sued off in a hurry.
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New HHO Gas Exotic Car ? 40mpg, Near 0 Emissions, But Does it Perform? | Super Gas Saver

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

It's a scam.

No, nobody is "supressing" it. That statement is all part of the con game.

Is it possible based on the theory? Maybe. But if it costs $80k to make a car run on it, what makes you think the "average Joe" can do it in their garage after wasting $47 for a guide from ClickBank?

The people who say it is being supressed...let's see...how could they possibly benefit from making such a statement...hmmm?

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Michael Oksa

15 years ago

Looks like we agree on the key points, snapper.

I think it would be best to hold on to the domains until gas prices go up.

Yes, the theory isn't a scam, but ALL (yes, ev-e-ry single one) of the water for gas products are the bottom-of-the-barrel, rip off scam garbage.

In fact, it was one of the things I refuse to ghostwrite articles about.

All the best,
Michael

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snapper

15 years ago

Well Michael I am glad I agree with an ethical marketer

I will take your word for the products as being scams because I haven't taken a very close look at the products but I did have a very close look at the theory. Imagine the possibilities if you could efficiently turn water into fuel. Sounds too good to be true!

Originally Posted by Michael Oksa

Looks like we agree on the key points, snapper.

I think it would be best to hold on to the domains until gas prices go up.

Yes, the theory isn't a scam, but ALL (yes, ev-e-ry single one) of the water for gas products are the bottom-of-the-barrel, rip off scam garbage.

In fact, it was one of the things I refuse to ghostwrite articles about.

All the best,
Michael

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Floyd Fisher

15 years ago

If I was you, I would nothing with those domains until someone somewhere produces an EPA mileage and emissions test.

The law is the law. You cannot make mileage or emissions claims until you get them proven via EPA testing.

If you really want to do something with them, use them to warn others about the problems of the water for gas products, explaining how none of them are proven (and how to tell), and to stay far away from them until they can provide such proof.

Hope this helps.

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GuerrillaIM

15 years ago

Google also think it's a scam. It's on their list of things your not allowed to advertise.

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Mohammad Afaq

15 years ago

Alternate energy is a hot topic but the stuff selling out there is like Solar Energy etc. but I didn't really look deep into burning water for fuel.

I looked at the Google Keyword Tool and I found out that search volume for the keyword "water for fuel" is 18,100 searches a month. I recommend you go ahead and check out the competition and if it is low you can go ahead and start working with these domain and keep them.

Now here's an important thing: if you can find out how to use water as fuel then I think this idea will be enough to make you couple of hundred thousand dollars at the least. Just go ahead and find a way of turning water into fuel and if you can find a cheap way of doing so you will be very successful and rich.

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Steve Faber

15 years ago

My mistake, the real car that uses HHO technology is $150K, not "only" $80,000. Must not be so easy to just plug a few cables into a glass jar, flash your EPROM, and double your gas mileage.

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Mike T 15 years ago

This area is most definitely 100% a scam (I do have a science background). It is quite possible to split water, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, into its constituent elements, then burn the hydrogen produced, however you will always need more energy to split the molecule than you get back when the hydrogen is combusted. To do otherwise would violate the first law of thermodynamics. Google didn't seem to like me pointing this out in my knol last year and deleted it, despite appeal, whilst allowing knols promoting the scam to remain! Needless to say I haven't bothered with knols since.

In my opinion, keep the domains, use them to debunk the scam and direct the traffic towards information that will actually improve mpg, eg. better driving techniques, always make sure tyres are inflated to the correct pressure, don't carry lots of needless luggage in your vehicle all the time.
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Alton Hargrave

15 years ago

"I tried it. I filed my car with woter and now, my gass bill is zero." LOL

Seriously, it is a viable subject and one that needs more attention. Many of man's inventions of the past were smothered due to other interests. I think we are sold and supplied with the most expensive system we will tolerate simply to fill the pockets of the mightiest business in our country, the oil companies.

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