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Advice needed for high ticket investment business

by cjsparacino123
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So recently i discovered i can intuit the right stocks to pick and when to sell them and i've made a product that will literally make anyone billions in the long term.

how should i go about selling this im looking to charge 1-2k

and how can i create a consistent stream of income?
#advice #business #high #investment #needed #ticket
  • Profile picture of the author SFNY
    Wow - You've built a money tree? That's amazing! LOL I actually have the fountain of youth if anyone's looking for it.

    I am curious to learn about your product though. I have a huge network of website owners/writers for highly authoritice sites in the stock market niche. PM me if your product doesn't suck.
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  • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
    Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

    i've made a product that will literally make anyone billions in the long term.

    . . . how can i create a consistent stream of income?
    Rather contradicting I'd say. And the "billions" bit means you wont be taken seriously anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author maddyy
    You need to gain the trust of your audience first...
    Maybe start a blog or site?
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
    You know what is sad here...he actually believes his own statement.

    Not hundreds of thousands, millions but BILLION of $$'s...guaranteed.

    And he has to ask how to hawk this guaranteed billionaire making system around...

    Anyone...that guarantees huge profits trading. is a *.*er!

    So frustrating dealing with people like this.

    OP..i'll give you benefit of the doubt....

    Give you next trade free to a millionaire...then get him to invest $10m+ split profits 50/50. Job done. No need to sell to the broker newbies for $2,000

    But i know that is never going to happen.

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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

    i've made a product that will literally make anyone billions in the long term.
    I bet you have, but have you made any trades that have made even a fraction of what you claim I can make.

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  • Profile picture of the author cjsparacino123
    Well ill explain my theory, and yes that is a good solution to get a millionaire to invest. but very simply i believe i can teach people to get 50% returns every year, if you take 30,000 and compound it over 30 years using my method you literally have about 5.6 billion. So far i've been virtual investing (lol) and i've been able to have 5-10% returns every month. I think i can take anyone and make them into a multi multi millionaire at least over 20 years..
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Of course you're straightlining your profits and compounding everything every month without a single loss. That sounds like the stock market we all know and love, doesn't it?

      I'll tell you, right now, how you can have $1million in your stock account within the next 12 months! It's simple, easy, and anyone can do it.

      Just invest $10 million on January 1st!

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        i can teach people to get 50% returns every year
        Very simple to sell high end product on how to do this. FIRST - you need to actually DO it - with real money in a brokerage acct that can be verified.

        intuit the right stocks to pick
        Maybe put your money where your imagination is? Unlike others, I won't say this cannot be done or can't be sold....I will say until you have done it in reality, you got nothin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      Well ill explain my theory, and yes that is a good solution to get a millionaire to invest. but very simply i believe i can teach people to get 50% returns every year
      Your theory and belief do not make a $2,000.00 product.

      al
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      Well ill explain my theory, and yes that is a good solution to get a millionaire to invest. but very simply i believe i can teach people to get 50% returns every year, if you take 30,000 and compound it over 30 years using my method you literally have about 5.6 billion. So far i've been virtual investing (lol) and i've been able to have 5-10% returns every month. I think i can take anyone and make them into a multi multi millionaire at least over 20 years..
      wow...a system that beat Warren Buffet, Jim Rodgers, George Soros + al lother traders, hedge fund managers ever in history.

      Man...i'll pay you $500,000 for this. 100% exclusivity..but r.o.i. must be guaranteed or you pay me $500,000 OK?
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    Great.

    Tell you what. Since you're so sure I'll end up making billions over 30 years, why don't we start like this:

    You invest for me $2k. When that 2k becomes 5k, you take your $2k for the course, send me the course and 3k. It's a win-win, so let's do it.



    Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

    So recently i discovered i can intuit the right stocks to pick and when to sell them and i've made a product that will literally make anyone billions in the long term.

    how should i go about selling this im looking to charge 1-2k

    and how can i create a consistent stream of income?
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post

      Great.

      Tell you what. Since you're so sure I'll end up making billions over 30 years, why don't we start like this:

      You invest for me $2k. When that 2k becomes 5k, you take your $2k for the course, send me the course and 3k. It's a win-win, so let's do it.
      You actually only get 1k, he gets the original 2k investment and the 2k for the product purchase. That leaves you with 1k and the product. What a great WSO, we all win.

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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        I know, I figured out right after I posted that I meant, when the 2k get 5k profit...

        Because I want to start investing with 2k, not a penny less (I'm in a hurry to become a billionaire but not greedy) but still would love to have some money for a mini-party I'd be throwing myself on account of being well on my way to being a billionaire.

        After thought: If I were better at math, would I need OP's product?

        Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

        You actually only get 1k, he gets the original 2k investment and the 2k for the product purchase. That leaves you with 1k and the product. What a great WSO, we all win.

        al
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  • Profile picture of the author stockutopia
    virtual trading is nothing like the real thing..... Fear & Greed make up our markets .... trading fake money eliminates both emotions.
    Just so you know No One I mean NO ONE!!!!!!! can predict the markets... it is a random series of events. You are a fool for trying and a bigger fool to think you can sell this bull shit.

    Yes, I am a trader... a successful one (now you can say you actually know one), but I will tell you this.... I don't pick direction... a fool picks direction!!
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
      Originally Posted by stockutopia View Post

      virtual trading is nothing like the real thing..... Fear & Greed make up our markets .... trading fake money eliminates both emotions.
      Just so you know No One I mean NO ONE!!!!!!! can predict the markets... it is a random series of events. You are a fool for trying and a bigger fool to think you can sell this bull shit.

      Yes, I am a trader... a successful one (now you can say you actually know one), but I will tell you this.... I don't pick direction... a fool picks direction!!
      B*S* some of the world's best investors/traders trade on direction.

      Yes there are many ways to make money but to say direction isn't one of them is false.

      This is why i HATE forums. People spout their opinion like it's a fact. Then wrong info. gets branded around. So much false information all over this place. Stick to facts or state it's opinion. Life would be so much simpler.
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  • Profile picture of the author cjsparacino123
    its predictable based on earnings reports, your intuition knows which stocks to pick, all you do is sell once it goes up. Theres my 2k course in 3 sentences
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    • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      its predictable based on earnings reports, your intuition knows which stocks to pick, all you do is sell once it goes up. Theres my 2k course in 3 sentences
      wow...predicting earnings..that's never been done before....

      So your system gives 50% per annum every year....?
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    • Profile picture of the author KenW3
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123

      Well ill explain my theory, and yes that is a good solution to get a millionaire to invest. but very simply i believe i can teach people to get 50% returns every year, if you take 30,000 and compound it over 30 years using my method you literally have about 5.6 billion. So far i've been virtual investing (lol) and i've been able to have 5-10% returns every month. I think i can take anyone and make them into a multi multi millionaire at least over 20 years..
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      its predictable based on earnings reports, your intuition knows which stocks to pick, all you do is sell once it goes up. Theres my 2k course in 3 sentences
      You do not have a viable course to teach nor product to offer. Your method is not worth two cents, as it is based totally upon simulated results and not on real-world trading. How do I know that without seeing it? Because the best minds in the business that build mechanical and discretionary trading systems with proven and published online results (forward tested) could never make those claims.

      I can build you an historical system that will make 100% a month but it won't work in real trading going forward. This system would have a negative value to students because it would waste their time.

      The single best method (IMHO) for trading earnings is PEADs - Post Earnings Announcement Drift

      P.S. Be very careful with selling education that consists of financial advice. It is tightly regulated in the U.S. and misrepresenting (even potential) returns is prosecuted. You may also learn that traders and investors can become very litigious when a teacher can be held liable for causing losses from a system that was improperly vetted.
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      • Profile picture of the author kilgore
        Wow, that's great! If only Warren Buffett had done what you did when he discovered his own knack for investing.

        If he would have sold his ideas as a $7 system instead of actually using them, I have no doubt that he'd be a thousandaire by now!
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Done exactly what you say in this post, with $25k fake money. My intuition got me fake-broke within 11 days (though on day 5 I was at $71,000).

      Since you're so good at this? Why didn't my intuition tell me to call it quits at the end of day 5?

      Where do they sell intuition replacements?

      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      its predictable based on earnings reports, your intuition knows which stocks to pick, all you do is sell once it goes up. Theres my 2k course in 3 sentences
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  • Profile picture of the author cjsparacino123
    I think its great what jimmy said about the "forum truths"

    All you need to know is that it works and there are books written on it of people hitting 70% returns a year based on "feeling"

    It's really simple, and it does work in the real world

    in fact i read a book chronicling a weekend with warren buffet, (hes a billionaire investor) and one thing he said in the book that stood out to me was when he said "i never FELT like buying disney"

    he trades on intuition! just like i do!
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

      he (Warren Buffett) trades on intuition! just like i do!

      CJ,

      I feel sorry for you . . . really. Nothing could be further from the truth.

      Warren Buffett is one of the most skilled, disciplined, organized and savvy investors there is and he prides himself on understanding the companies and industries that he trades. Sure he "feels" like investing in certain securities once he has done all his homework and due diligence first.

      You, on the other hand, judging from all the posts in this thread, have no clue about the stock market.

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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by cjsparacino123 View Post

    i've made a product that will literally make anyone billions in the long term....
    You really want to share this information to people, especially since you should be sipping pina coladas shortly - with the billions in the long term claim?
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  • Profile picture of the author cjsparacino123
    @DABK, im glad you were up, the same thing happened to me, was up 5k then took a nosedive on a trade. but im glad to see that its working for other people, ive heard that every trader takes 1 or 2 big losses then goes on to make money. Try it again ill go look for intuition replacements, but you have to learn to do nothing with your money ive read, you have to feel comfortable not making any decision regarding your investments.. and why did you keep compounding failure instead of regrouping and couping your losses then going for the kill

    @steveB, you're right i don't do my homework, the most homework i do is harmonize with stock tickers
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Probably the best way is a coaching program.

    Put your system and general trading teachings on videos in a paid member area.

    Have an upsell that allows access to an "Inner Circle" of more motivated students with advance training, maybe access to tools and where you and other gurus personally participate in discussions and training.

    Have a further upsell where they can get personal (group) coaching with access to weekly interactive webinars.

    Have another high priced upsell where you offer personal (one-to-one) coaching via weekly/monthly Skype calls.
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    • Profile picture of the author SFNY
      Trade on Feeling? The first thing you learn as a trader is that you should never trade on emotion. Ever! Let me guess, Wall Street has gotten it wrong for years?

      BTW - there aren't many retail traders left these days making money. It's not 1990 where you could throw a dart on a stock and make 10%. Brokers and Institutional traders are making money. Some very good traders that work from their own accounts are still in the game but they're usually seasoned and hold short positions and option traders. I know a lot of stock promoters that do well. Don't trade stocks because big money will crush you.

      I have a lot of friends that are worth 10s of millions. Many live in NJ and have worked on Wall Street. They are happy to earn 5% these days - most people are.

      This thread should honestly be deleted.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
    This thread shows the rife stupidity on forums. From people thinking they have systems to make billions with no proof to people making pig ignorant remarks and trying to pas them off as facts. It never ends though does it?
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  • Profile picture of the author tomholen
    Sorry man, this is not something anyone would pay you $2K to do. You have nothing to show but some virtual money results. There was a good solution, since you're so sure this is a gold mine, you can take $2K real money and invest, get the returns and send me the profit after you've taken the cost of the course. I will give you a glowing review!
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  • Profile picture of the author selfdisciplineacademy
    If you want to sell backend products (1k + )

    You also need front-end products that you can sell to your target prospects first..

    ..then upsell them into your backend product
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