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cbconsumer.com - Fab Website, Disappointing Traffic

by rjsa
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Hello everyone! I recently launched my website cbconsumer.com, with an amazing idea and amazing design. Me and my friends have been working hard on this for about 6 months and now finally we have done it.

This is the first website ever online that is actually be made for clickbank buyers instead of clickbank affiliates. Here they can get ratings on various clickbank products and identify weather a particular product is useful to them or not. This will be going to help clickbank buyers, and we mean it.

But the problem that we did not realize before is that we are good programmers, but not good internet marketers. In last 4-5 days we got traffic even less than 1000. We know that PPC is always the option to get genuine traffic but we actually don't have that budget initially and we can consider that only after earning some money from the website.

Since this is the best Internet marketing forum we want to get advice on this problem. I know there are best internet marketing minds on this forum and please don't disappoint us guys!
You can also PM me and we can also share the revenues - this is the most we can offer!
#cbconsumer #cbconsumercom #clickbank #disappointing #fab #internet marketing #traffic #traffic and leads #website
  • Profile picture of the author Tomas Lodén
    Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

    But the problem that we did not realize before is that we are good programmers, but not good internet marketers. In last 4-5 days we got traffic even less than 1000.
    1000 hits?

    What are you talking about here?
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    • Profile picture of the author rjsa
      Yup. 1000 hits
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      • Profile picture of the author Tomas Lodén
        You can get 100,000 hits in one hour but that wont change a thing, you need targeted visitors.. So you and your friends cant even come up with a few hundred dollars to promo this site after six months of hard work?

        Feel free to use the search function on this forum and you´ll find 1000s of posts on how to market this site.. and everything is 100% free. Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Free traffic and organic search engine traffic almost always tend to be slower in coming to a new web site than paid traffic.

        So you either spend your time doing all sorts of things to get free traffic or you bite the bullet and pay for your traffic.

        You make the call.

        Welcome to the forum. Please read the rules about posting. Self promotion is not allowed.

        The best to you,

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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

    Hello everyone! I recently launched my website cbconsumer.com, with an amazing idea and amazing design. Me and my friends have been working hard on this for about 6 months and now finally we have done it.
    While many marketers treat their websites like their children and think they are the best of the best, when in reality they are not. The same is true for your site. The design and idea are not amazing at all.

    You said that you built this site for the clickbank product buyer. I see nothing of value for a consumer on your site. It is full of pie charts that have absolutely nothing to offer a potential "Buyer" A buyer wants a review, they want to know the product works not some made up arbitrary rating that means nothing to anyone.

    The site has no useful information. While you might be able to market the site and get some traffic, that traffic will be leaving soon after arriving

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    If you just launched your site how did you already get all the votes?

    Also, the related items seems to be broken on the details page. For example, what does increasing testosterone have to do with Google Sniper?

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    • Profile picture of the author rjsa
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      If you just launched your site how did you already get all the votes?

      Also, the related items seems to be broken on the details page. For example, what does increasing testosterone have to do with Google Sniper?

      Mark
      Ya of course these ratings are random, as you can understand as a internet marketer.
      And of course there may be many faults in the design and we never thought we are we the best.
      As you noticed the problems with the site now you can even give the solutions to set the things right
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        Ya of course these ratings are random, as you can understand as a internet marketer.
        As an internet marketer what I understand is I do not make stuff up, that is basically lying and good internet marketers do not do that
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        As you noticed the problems with the site now you can even give the solutions to set the things right
        Solution. Scap it and start over

        al
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        This is the first website ever online that is actually be made for clickbank buyers instead of clickbank affiliates. Here they can get ratings on various clickbank products and identify weather a particular product is useful to them or not. This will be going to help clickbank buyers, and we mean it.
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        Ya of course these ratings are random, as you can understand as a internet marketer.
        What happened to having a site that is "going to help Clickbank buyers, and we mean it?" You are lying on the reviews. How is that helping anyone but yourselves?

        Lying has nothing to do with marketing. Liars are liars, thieves, scammers in their core character and would do the same evil deeds no matter what they are selling or what job they are doing. You have scamming, lying, thieving doctors, marketers, politicians, preachers, postal workers, and every other occupation. Don't mix up the two concepts.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          This is all over the place. With food products to make money online to dating products.

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        • Profile picture of the author rjsa
          We want you to understand Mark that these are just initial ratings which are random. We have a Registration system where people can actually register and rate the products. You can try it yourself. We have programmed site in such a way that the actual ratings will automatically replace the older once So keep that in mind too!

          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          Lying has nothing to do with marketing.
          Mark
          And well yes lying has to do with marketing. Now don't tell us that none of the marketer lies
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

            We want you to understand Mark that these are just initial ratings which are random. We have a Registration system where people can actually register and rate the products. You can try it yourself. We have programmed site in such a way that the actual ratings will automatically replace the older once So keep that in mind too!
            So if I register and spend a day and go through and give everything a score of 1, then all the products will reflect the score of 1 and show only 1 rater?

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            • Profile picture of the author rjsa
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              So if I register and spend a day and go through and give everything a score of 1, then all the products will reflect the score of 1 and show only 1 rater?

              Mark
              Nope Mark, you have misunderstood it. The final rating is calculated based on the formula which considers previous ratings also. The previous random ratings will also be a part of it. At certain point of time when we have enough amount of actual raters whose ratings do not match the original random ratings are found they will replace the random ratings!

              Thanks for asking the question.
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      • Profile picture of the author PinkStar
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        Ya of course these ratings are random, as you can understand as a internet marketer.
        I would understand if you had copied ratings from another rating site as it's hard to start with a empty site. But just randomly adding ratings and at the same time claiming "CBConsumer gives you the power to be 100% confident before you buy any of the Clickbank products" is just shady.
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        • Profile picture of the author rjsa
          You are right PinkStar, and we too feel that it is quit shady, but as you said, it is also very hard to start with an empty site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    Go back to school, or ask for a refund.

    Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

    But the problem that we did not realize before is that we are good programmers, but not good internet marketers.
    If it took you 6 months to format the ClickBank feed into categories, add a couple of widgets, and display the results... you spent too much money on your education to become programmers.
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    • Profile picture of the author rjsa
      Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

      add a couple of widgets
      Well there are no so called ready made widgets out there on the site. And yes, you really don't have even idea that how much it took to make crawler to crawl individual product website to match the actual heading of product of website since it is differently stated on Clickbank marketplace. You can match the header of products on cbconsumer.com with Clickbank marketplace. And you don't know that the most time consuming process is to update product ratings (random though) one by one. In fact you don't know anything about these programming terms at all. Still I may offer you a free course in my schools
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

        Well there are no so called ready made widgets out there on the site.
        Perhaps you thought I was using the term "widget" in the context of WordPress, but that would be silly - since it is obviously NOT a WordPress site.

        The term "widget" (in programming jargon), pre-dates Wordpress by literally decades. and the jquery plugin jqplot.js (used to draw your pie charts) would commonly be referred to as a widget.

        And yes, you really don't have even idea that how much it took to make crawler to crawl individual product website to match the actual heading of product of website since it is differently stated on Clickbank marketplace.
        Perhaps rather than spending your time trying to replace the product headings, you would have been more productive having your fetch_products.php file retrieve related products (i.e. maybe a few from the same product category) rather than showing
        1. Family Survival System
        2. Aquaponics 4 You, and
        3. 31 Day Testerone Plan
        under the "Similar Products" heading when I viewed the detailed listing for "Google Analytics".

        And you don't know that the most time consuming process is to update product ratings (random though) one by one.
        Maybe you should automate that rather than plugging in fictitious ratings that will only work against you in the long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattStrange
    The programming of the charts and ratings can easily be adapted to WordPress, i would scrap the current site, design and move to WP. Make the site more user friendly with a review theme.

    Keep the charts and ratings minimal and focus on your review. Adding images to the products would work well. The pie charts take up too much space, i'm sure you could make them fit side by side or in a tabbed content box. A logo too...

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author elimat
    Buyers don't even know what is clickbank, they only looking for reviews, if you did it for udemy maybe you get results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    This is completely absurd. OP, think about what you have done.

    With regard to buyers...

    You have made a website that displays completely fake customer ratings, and you're telling buyers they can use these ratings to be "100% confident" about purchasing various products. You're doing this so you can make money when a buyer purchases a product through your affiliate link.

    That is fraud.

    And with regard to product vendors...

    Many of the fake ratings on your site are low (not that it would be OK if they were all high, for the reason stated above). Because of these low ratings, a person who is thinking about buying a vendor's product may decide not to buy it. And you posted these fake low ratings intentionally, with the knowledge that they are completely fake.

    That is libel.

    Ya of course these ratings are random, as you can understand as a internet marketer.
    Nothing about the fact that I market products and services on the internet (meaning I am an "internet marketer") makes me understand your decision to commit fraud and libel.

    You seem to think the term "internet marketer" simply refers to unscrupulous marketers who deceive people in order to make money. That is not the case.

    You are right PinkStar, and we too feel that it is quit shady, but as you said, it is also very hard to start with an empty site.
    Whether or not you can seed your site with content (real content) is something you consider when you're deciding whether or not to pursue a business idea like this in the first place. If you can't, then you pursue a different idea, one that you can actually execute on.

    If I was going to launch a business with this concept, I would start with having a page for each ClickBank product, with zero ratings. I would contact product vendors and invite them to create an account and claim their page, which would allow them to respond to their ratings and address customer complaints.

    I would also provide them an easy to install ratings widget so they could funnel their customers through my system. They would have an incentive to do this, since otherwise most of the ratings would be posted by unhappy customers who seek out a site like mine to complain, similar to what happens with Resellerratings.com. In fact, merchants pay Reseller Ratings to claim their page and use the exit survey tool precisely for this reason, because they are almost certain to have a negative average rating if they don't.

    My point is that there is a right way and a wrong way to launch a site like this. You're doing it the wrong way. You may not want to hear that, but it's the truth.

    I will also say that I don't think the concept is all that great. ClickBank is moving in the direction of becoming a retail marketplace, which probably means that they will inevitably have ratings on their own site, and they will be far better positioned to collect ratings from users than you are.

    And yes, you really don't have even idea that how much it took to make crawler to crawl individual product website to match the actual heading of product of website since it is differently stated on Clickbank marketplace.
    That is incredibly easy. HTTrack on the marketplace, PowerGREP to extract the links to the vendors' websites, then HTTrack again or scripted Wget on the vendors' websites. Or you can script the whole thing using PHP or another language instead of using desktop tools. This is easily done in a matter of days, most of which is just downloads running in the background.

    And you don't know that the most time consuming process is to update product ratings (random though) one by one.
    I obviously don't approve of the "random" (fake) ratings, but why would you create them one by one? This kind of thing is extremely easy to script using any number of languages to spit out the randomized data. Didn't you say you and your friends are programmers?

    In fact you don't know anything about these programming terms at all. Still I may offer you a free course in my schools
    You're not going to get far in this forum if you start getting all snotty with other members after posting a thread like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by rjsa View Post

      Hello everyone! I recently launched my website cbconsumer.com, with an amazing idea and amazing design. Me and my friends have been working hard on this for about 6 months and now finally we have done it.
      Fantastic!

      Hey, have you been keeping up on the latest news about clickbank going on?

      Are you worried about how that might affect your site?

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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    It's just a bunch of stats that don't really reveal anything about the product at all.

    I think you should worry a lot less about the design of the site and concentrate a lot more on the content. Basically the content you have there is, well, less than impressive IMO.

    I have several blogs that are just run of the mill designs but I put lots of work into the articles and they get quite a bit of organic traffic, even with no off-page SEO.

    Start a blog and write extensive review articles along with "unboxing" type review videos and you will have something for people to read.

    I doubt people care about any of the statistics you have listed on your site because they are basically just generic and do not go into detail about what is actually included with the products.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      It's just a bunch of stats that don't really reveal anything about the product at all.

      I think you should worry a lot less about the design of the site and concentrate a lot more on the content. Basically the content you have there is, well, less than impressive IMO.

      I have several blogs that are just run of the mill designs but I put lots of work into the articles and they get quite a bit of organic traffic, even with no off-page SEO.

      Start a blog and write extensive review articles along with "unboxing" type review videos and you will have something for people to read.

      I doubt people care about any of the statistics you have listed on your site because they are basically just generic and do not go into detail about what is actually included with the products.
      It's actually worse than that. The statistics are fake.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
        Originally Posted by Jon Patrick View Post

        It's actually worse than that. The statistics are fake.
        If that's the case then this is borderline fraud, if not actual fraud. Fooling people into believing that hundreds, or even thousands of others have rated the product highly is completely unethical.

        If I were the OP I would scrap the site completely and start over. Like I said, a generic, plain looking WP blog with incredible content would be a thousand times better than a fancy looking site that has nothing of real value on it.

        Honestly, if I landed on that site I would just be confused and not really sure what I'm looking at.
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  • Profile picture of the author getfreetheme
    It doesn't look good for me

    But really, you should focus more on the content than the overall design. A thing that you should follow in which nichblogger75 had said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    My favorite part about this thread is that if you Google cbconsumer.com as many of the potential traffic would do to see if the site is reputable this post ranks high lol

    That means potential visitors wondering if the site is legit can read the OPs posts about lying and making up content. Just way too funny.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by Peter Lessard View Post

      My favorite part about this thread is that if you Google cbconsumer.com as many of the potential traffic would do to see if the site is reputable this post ranks high lol

      That means potential visitors wondering if the site is legit can read the OPs posts about lying and making up content. Just way too funny.
      Wow. Well I sure hope the OP didn't create this thread with the hope that it would add some positive promotion for the site.

      It sure is working for promotion purposes but probably not exactly as the OP would have hoped.

      The bottom line is that content is and always has been "king." I think that if the OP would take a little more honest approach toward reviewing Clickbank products on that site then it would actually have some value.

      I'm not talking about whipping up some generic reviews or paying someone on Fiverr to write them for you, either. I'm talking about isolating a niche and then actually acquiring the products so that honest and well-informed reviews can be written.

      People are very wary of reviews nowadays, as they should be. The amount of review fraud that is going on as of late is worse than it's ever been, IMO. The recent Amazon/Fiverr case is evidence that companies, and consumers as well, are sick and tired of fake reviews and they are not going to tolerate it any longer.

      I feel this is a good thing for all those who are doing reviews the right way. Fabricating votes, rankings, product facts, whether you actually own the product, etc, is completely unacceptable.

      It really isn't that hard to do it right. I think that goes for lots of aspects of IM like list building, SEO, etc. Why not learn how to do it the right way and then go for it?

      I have noticed that it's actually relatively easy to start a successful review blog if you are willing to produce killer content. If you combine a killer review article with good on-page SEO you will most likely succeed.

      I don't even bother doing link building anymore. I focus on my content and I use the Yoast SEO plugin to make sure I have good on-page SEO and I often find that my articles will shoot up to page 2 or 3 within a couple of weeks and outrank articles that have been there for years. It takes a little work to get on page 1 for my desired keywords, and sometimes no matter what I do it never happens, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

      One thing I do know for sure is that Google cares about the quality of your website content way more than they care about what your site looks like. I think as long as you have a mobile optimized site with a simple theme you can then concentrate on pumping out top notch content. Once you start making money from your site then you can hire a designer and tweak it the way you want. That would be my approach, anyhow.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Just wow.

        I didn't even visit the site before, but after just looking at it it is quite hideous.

        Not only that but there is no value there. Just some graphs. No content what so ever.

        Research your Clickbank product before you Buy
        Where are the actual customer reviews? (I know OP has none, but I guess they don't realize the real importance of those).
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  • Profile picture of the author wAvision
    This won't work out well ... Your site give absolutely zero info on any of the products....

    You need to write real reviews of each product if you want to get any amount of sales, not just have ugly pie charts.

    The way your site is now, there is no way you will get it ranked in google for anything if seo is in your gameplan.
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