Affiliate marketing question

8 years ago

This depends on the vendor and/or affiliate program and how the structure for crediting affiliates is set up.

Some vendors will retain the credit to the affiliate that captured the lead even if the eventual sale comes through the vendor's email series. Other vendors will use this as an opportunity to deny the affiliate a commission. If you are concerned about a specific offer, then consult with the vendor.

There are a number of options when delegating affiliate credit.

Some (most?) use "last referral". So the affiliate who last sent a customer gets the credit. In this case, if a customer comes to your site, visits the sales page and does not buy but then weeks later comes to the sales page rom a different affiliate's link then that affiliate will get the credit.

Others use "first referral" so in the above scenario, the second affiliate cookie would not overwrite yours and you would get the credit (assuming your affiliate cookie had not expired). The duration of a cookie varies. Many use a 30 day cookie, Amazon uses a 24 hr cookie. Some programs offer a "lifetime" cookie.

In the case of a "lifetime" cookie, once your affiliate referral is set, no future affiliate referrals will overwrite your cookie.

It is important to note that neither you nor the vendor have 100% control of the cookies that are set on a visitor's computer. Users have the ability clear the cookies from their PC. If a user clears their cookies, that effectively resets any credit that had been attributed to an affiliate and visiting a new affiliate link would set a new cookie, regardless of the duration or credit plan determined by the vendor.

If you are not sure check with the affiliate program you are using and the vendor whose product you are promoting.

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robinaraoz

8 years ago

Hi tacassim,

That can sometimes be an issue. It depends on how the vendors handles affiliates and cookies.

Far to many affiliate programs have really short time-frames for cookies to expire, in some cases they expire after just 15 days...(I know, ridiculous)

I would check and see if the vendor offers lifetime cookies for example. Other vendors track your referrals by tagging them in the database as your referral. That is way better!

So, basically, it will depend on the vendor.

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Robin

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tacassim

8 years ago

I am thinking of promoting JVzoo and clickbank products..what do you think?

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robinaraoz

8 years ago

Hi Tuan,

Jvzoo offers lifetime cookies, you can see the description here:

https://www.jvzoo.com/affiliates (Check under Global Vendor Cookies)

For Clickbank, please check here:

https://support.clickbank.com/entrie...About-HopLinks

You'll find the answer under the FAQ = > "Q: With HopLinks, does the first or last affiliate get the commission?"

I hope this answer your question,

Let me know if you need further help

Best regards,
Robin

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megalinktraffic

8 years ago

Instead of you sending the referral or lead to your vendor site all you need to
do is build your own list and once you do you can promote your offers
and followup with them thereby you can get your commission secured..
Top people here does it..
be the best
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Rory Singh

8 years ago

I would refrain from sending any traffic to a product where the vendor 'collects' a lead. Let the vendors build their 'own' lists.

I don't care how great their product may be. If the vendor is collecting leads (cookies and track to affiliate ID's or not), I just won't do it.

Send traffic to your own lead capture page first. Build your own list.

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yakim1

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

I would refrain from sending any traffic to a product where the vendor 'collects' a lead. Let the vendors build their 'own' lists.

I don't care how great their product may be. If the vendor is collecting leads (cookies and track to affiliate ID's or not), I just won't do it.

Send traffic to your own lead capture page first. Build your own list.

Hi Rory,

I have a question for you. What if the vendor's squeeze page allowed you to connect your autoresponder to the squeeze page by just adding your autoresponder form code to the affiliate tools page. When you send traffic to the squeeze page with an affiliate link the visitor's name and email address are added to your autoresponder.

What if, when the new subscriber downloads the free report all the links in the free report are your affiliate links.

All the work you would need to do is add your autoresponder form code to the affiliate tools area, and promote the squeeze page with your affiliate link.

Would you promote that squeeze page and the product that the new subscriber is sent to after opting in to your list?

Plus, if the lead magnet was a report branded with your affiliate links automatically when the new subscriber downloads the free repot, would you promote that squeeze page?

I would truely like to know your opinion on this kind of squeeze page.

Best regards,
Steve Yakim

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Rory Singh

8 years ago

If I didn't already have my 'own' squeeze pages, then yes I would use the vendor's.

However, I don't market any click bank products. I use a paid membership marketing system.

One of the main reasons I do so is because I know the systems owner personally. He is able to create higher caliber systems than CB because he gets 'enough' funding from the members to put into the system.

PLUS he is well aware of the 'law of karma'.

He'll make sure that every single thing is personalized with our affiliate links.

Steve, just make sure that you trust the vendor and yes there is no problems using his funnel.

Originally Posted by yakim1

Hi Rory,

I have a question for you. What if the vendor's squeeze page allowed you to connect your autoresponder to the squeeze page by just adding your autoresponder form code to the affiliate tools page. When you send traffic to the squeeze page with an affiliate link the visitor's name and email address are added to your autoresponder.

What if, when the new subscriber downloads the free report all the links in the free report are your affiliate links.

All the work you would need to do is add your autoresponder form code to the affiliate tools area, and promote the squeeze page with your affiliate link.

Would you promote that squeeze page and the product that the new subscriber is sent to after opting in to your list?

Plus, if the lead magnet was a report branded with your affiliate links automatically when the new subscriber downloads the free repot, would you promote that squeeze page?

I would truely like to know your opinion on this kind of squeeze page.

Best regards,
Steve Yakim

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yakim1

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

If I didn't already have my 'own' squeeze pages, then yes I would use the vendor's.

However, I don't market any click bank products. I use a paid membership marketing system.

One of the main reasons I do so is because I know the systems owner personally. He is able to create higher caliber systems than CB because he gets 'enough' funding from the members to put into the system.

PLUS he is well aware of the 'law of karma'.

He'll make sure that every single thing is personalized with our affiliate links.

Steve, just make sure that you trust the vendor and yes there is no problems using his funnel.

Hi Rory,

In my example, I'm the vendor and I have created special software that allows you to connect your autoresponder to my squeeze page by adding your autoresponder form code in the affiliate promotional tools area of the product I would want you to promote as my affiliate.

You can set your autoresponder to send out any messages you want that would be similar to the product I want you to promote. It could be some of the swipe emails from the affiliate promotional tool area.

I send out the download link to the special report from my autoresponder that is being given away from the squeeze page. The download link in my email messages are your affiliate links to any products listed in any of the 7 email messages that I send to the subscribers.

So I actually promote your affiliate links for you in my follow up emails. My system will even promote your affiliate links automatically to the new subscribers of this squeeze page even if you don't connect your autoresponder.

The free report that the subscriber downloads is also automatically branded with your affiliate links when the subscriber downloads the report. absolutely no work on your part but to drive traffic to the squeeze page. All the other work is done for you.

My question is... Would you promote my squeeze page that builds your list and advertises every day to each new subscriber with you affiliate links in the 7 content follow up email messages that also contain your affiliate links?

Also brands the free report with your affiliate links.

Plus you would earn commission from the product sales letter the squeeze page redirects to.

Would you join an affiliate program that could do this for you?

What if I made the system allow you to redirect to one of your products if it is similar to the product I'm selling with the squeeze page?

I have software that will do all of this automatically so I can easily do what they call Integration Marketing. Depending on your answer I may ask these questions in a new thread.

Best regards,
Steve

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yakim1

8 years ago

Hi tacassim,

When an affiliate program says it uses Life Time cookies they can still be Last Affiliate cookies. The cookies just have a very long expiration date. But they can still be overwritten by another cookie from the same domain.

The best way to see if the vendor is overwriting your cookies is to look at the links in the emails that they send out. What the urls as the page loads to see if the vendor is using his own affiliate link in the promotion.

If no affiliate link is being used by the vendor then your cookies will remain on the clients computer and you will get credit for the purchase.

I hope this is helpful,
Steve Yakim

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extrememan

8 years ago

It all depends on how the vendor has created his sales funnel. If he is going for just the initial sale when they opt-in then no.. but if he has cookies in place, you may earn the commission down the line. I would contact the vendor and discuss this further.

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ChrisBa

8 years ago

Originally Posted by tacassim

Hey guys..I got a quick question..please it is too basic for some..Please apologize me for that.. My question is that if somebody comes to my affiliate offer through my link but did not buy in the first place..but if the vendor got his email address and took on a follow up series and if my lead decided to buy finally at the email series...will i get paid my commission? or will this not be paid as commission since the sale was made by the vendor himself..? Please advise..

Depends on the merchant, most will set a cookie for you for a specified time period. If your asking about a specific offer, consider reaching out to your AM to confirm.

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Randall Magwood

8 years ago

Honestly when I see an affiliate vendor's sales page, and it has a glaring opt-in box in the middle of the sales letter, I don't promote it at all. There are all kind of factors that determine whether or not you will receive commission for that potential sale.

I mean, hey.... the visitor could click on your affiliate link, go the sales page, sign up to the vendor's email newsletter, then go watch some porn real quick, then clear his browsing history and cookies (and everything else) because his wife just came home from work early.

Now you're out of a commission. But the vendor gets 100% of the sale if the visitor chooses to buy 2 weeks later.

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Sid Hale

8 years ago

Hey Randall,

Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

Honestly when I see an affiliate vendor's sales page, and it has a glaring opt-in box in the middle of the sales letter, I don't promote it at all. There are all kind of factors that determine whether or not you will receive commission for that potential sale.

I agree with not promoting products with a vendor optin form (or any other sales leak) on the sales page, but...

I mean, hey.... the visitor could click on your affiliate link, go the sales page, sign up to the vendor's email newsletter, then go watch some porn real quick, then clear his browsing history and cookies (and everything else) because his wife just came home from work early.

Now you're out of a commission. But the vendor gets 100% of the sale if the visitor chooses to buy 2 weeks later.

if the visitor has cleared his cookies, the vendor is going to get the sale, regardless - because the affiliate cookie no longer exists.

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ijohnson

8 years ago

I love you, Randall!!!

You always make rational and logical comments. Your comment was funny (with the guy watching porn and clearing his browsing history and cookies) but is a GREAT example of what may happen more times than we care to admit; resulting in no "cookies" for the person who initiated the click!!! :-D

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yakim1

8 years ago

Originally Posted by ijohnson

I love you, Randall!!!

You always make rational and logical comments. Your comment was funny (with the guy watching porn and clearing his browsing history and cookies) but is a GREAT example of what may happen more times than we care to admit; resulting in no "cookies" for the person who initiated the click!!! :-D

Let me get this clear in my head... So you and Randall don't promote any affiliate programs for fear your cookies may be overwritten?

I find this hard to believe because you can only promote your own products so much and then need to change the message to your list.

Best regards,
Steve Yakim

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