Are all information FREE? Do you still pay for ebooks and courses online?

5 years ago

Many courses online will offer you all the things that you need to start and grow a successful internet business for a fee.

The bad thing about all the free content that you find only provides you with 10-30% of the steps you need to take in order to succeed online.

Even if you find a mentor online and you need to pay $100's to get started in their training, I think that it is worth it.

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MValmont 5 years ago

Yes, you can find MOST of the information for FREE on the internet. However, it takes time and you have to filter a lot of information...

A mentor or a good program gives you FOCUS. They give you a STEP BY STEP method on how to do it so instead of wasting your time and effort trying to find the information on the internet, you can actually focus on making money quickly.
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TheGMa

5 years ago

Dear Abilify,

Free information provided by vendors and affiliates in the form of reports, short courses, and bonuses (known collectively as "freebies") + threads and posts here in the forum are useful but only provide a window into the big picture.

For instance, the 5 - 7 basic steps that must be in place to set up an Internet Marketing project are often listed in the forum and in freebies, but they are only the tip of the iceberg. You can see an excellent example here posted by Alvin Huang: 6 Steps to $20,000 Monthly

My current tally is 50 different base methods of making money online, and that's not including sub-categories, making money on the dark side of the web, and systems I haven't stumbled on yet.

In order to successfully master the intricacies of operating any of those systems or combinations of those system, you must buy courses from reputable marketers who have Been There, Done That, Have the Stats to Prove It.

That is, unless you are a dedicated masochist and want to spend the next 2-5 years figuring it out for yourself.

So yeah - even those of us with experience pay for coaching and try out innovative systems to see what they have to offer that can be added to our own existing systems.

You never stop learning, and a good education costs money.

My advice to anyone reading this is that if you are a newbie, go to Warrior Plus and JVZoo, plus generally on the web to find a high-rated course for the system that best suits your goals and personality. Do not spend your money foolishly - ask questions about your course choices, do your homework on JVZ & W+ (i.e. go thru the drop-down menu links to find info).

Once you've chosen a reputable and successful course, glue yourself to it and apply what you've learned while your enthusiasm is high. Don't hesitate, just LEAP!

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Randall Magwood

5 years ago

Paid or free... what's the difference if no implementation is achieved, and all you're doing is seeking useless philosophical answers? Take the knowledge that you've learned thus far and apply. If you have to buy a course, or pay a mentor, then do it.

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DIABL0

5 years ago

Free information is usually just going to cover the basics or give you a general guide. For some that can work if they have the drive, time and money to figure it out or are experience enough to fill in the blanks.

For others they are going to need more details and maybe an ebook or course will be enough or maybe enough to at least get them to take action and try something.

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Willie Crawford

5 years ago

There is a lot of information, and products available for free. Often the paid stuff is even just a compilation of what you can get for free.

In the later case, what you're really paying for is someone to sift through all of the free stuff and tell you which of it is still relevant and accurate.

I still spend thousands of dollars per year on training... and I have 20 years of experience as an online marketer. What I'm paying for is someone else's time and experience... which saves me time and from making mistakes.

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nicholasb

5 years ago

I just spent $2,000 to get the "Titans of Direct Response DVD's" aint no way your gonna get that quality information on a free blog or youtube channel...

After almost 9 years of being in business for myself, I really don't buy much anymore other than various books from Amazon... But when I see something I know will be of value to me I get it...

I'm very careful and guarded about who I learn from, an just any yahoo who knows how to put up a wordpress site or upload a video usually doesnt have to much to give... With a rare few exceptions of course.

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lerxtjr 5 years ago

From a producer of web marketing products, people are definitely still buying. A guy just bought my new workbook and asked if I was going to be updating an SEO book I wrote, like, 8 years ago. I charged $97 for it at the time and he said he'd be happy to pay for it again if I came out with an updated edition. Part of me was thinking, "Dude, you can get seo books on kindle for $1.25!!"

Not only are people still buying, but once they do buy from you, you can expect them to buy more later even if they could find similar information presented a different way on multiple free blog posts or forums.

I wanted to make a comment about this quote though:

[QUOTE] reputable marketers who have Been There, Done That, Have the Stats to Prove It[/QUOTE

From a buyer's standpoint, my biggest turnoff has become stats. I know stats are sexy and all, but the more someone pimps their stats, the more I think about a guy in shady sunglasses on a New York street corner selling watches from inside his trenchcoat.

I have much more confidence in someone telling me, "Hey, there are no missing pieces here. I'm just going to tell it like it is, what I do step-by-step. Yeah, the process did well for me, but the actual numbers I got have zero meaning for you so it doesn't even make sense for me to talk about stats. Who knows what will happen if you implement the same exact thing...ya just have to keep trying new approaches to things and see what method/style works for you and your product and market. And, hopefully this is the one that will work for you."

Now THAT is someone I will buy educational content from in a heartbeat.

I just don't gain any trust in someone that pushes their stats in my face. And that trust factor is still what sells long-term.
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- TheGMa 5 years ago
  
  Yeah, "stats" was the wrong term. Shoulda' said "rep" and I did state "reputable" later in the post.
  
  FYI, OP-who-disappeared-as-usual, stats and "showing the money" are both easily faked. You're looking for marketers who are referred to and by other marketers. Hang around for a while and you get to know who's who.
  
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Rory Singh

5 years ago

Originally Posted by abilify182

For those who are starting out, do you advise them to buy paid ebooks and courses?

When I first got started Online, I signed up for Perry Marshall's Ebook on Google Adwords. (outdated now).

It costed $97.

In the time we are in now, everything is a lot more expensive.

A book like that (if it still has useful content that can help you) would probably cost around $500 (now).

So yeah, I would definitely recommend newbies to buy stuff (because this is exactly what I did when I was new and it worked for me).

However, make sure to not go overboard if you decide to go this route. Take one course or material at a time and actually 'apply' that said method.

Don't just read it or give it a half assed approach.

Really 'implement' it.

People who keep going the FREE Route can remain 'Newbies' for years.

Two more points:

1- Make sure that you get a 'referral' regarding the paid course or book. I did before I bought that 97 dollar book. A referral will let you know that someone else got value from it.

Also make sure that this referral was someone who actually 'took action' on the info and not just someone who ONLY Read it and did nothing.

2- Don't expect 'Overnight' Results. Results take time.

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by abilify182

Well, in IM we have to research and learn before making that leap. But with blogs from internet marketers giving away free tips and information, case studies and even guides, and forums like these no doubt a lot of the information we need to get started are already available for free. So I'm asking my fellow IM'ers here, do you still buy paid ebooks and courses online? Are all information really free?

For those who are starting out, do you advise them to buy paid ebooks and courses?

First of all there is nothing called free ,Giving free content is just enticing you for further action

Basically free stuff will provide 10 to 20 per info and rest of the puzzle will be missing

I highly recommend newbie to find a mentor or a course ,instead of banging your heads against the people... It is totally worth it

I have seen quite a few people in my circle who still buy course ,even though they have been in IM for a long time and have made big money,As they say learning never stops ,If there is something which is worth it ,y not go and grab it

Happy New Year
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HelpingYouBeAnExpert

5 years ago

Look at Udemy some info is free and some is not, same on kindle.

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paulnedo

5 years ago

Free information is not always free, especially when it comes to IM. Many websites out there contain articles whose goal is only to get you to sign up for an affiliate program or for a product the webmaster owns. Personally, I never trust articles that contain any sorts of affiliate links.

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by paulnedo

Free information is not always free, especially when it comes to IM. Many websites out there contain articles whose goal is only to get you to sign up for an affiliate program or for a product the webmaster owns. Personally, I never trust articles that contain any sorts of affiliate links.

Ok if you do not trust articles that contain affiliate links ,Can you tell me what other ways are you making money with ,Do you create products or drop shipping model ,or just go straight to the product owner bypassing the affiliates

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david2015

5 years ago

While a lot of information are available for free, but they are scattered all over the place. It might take a lot of time put them in place and understand how things work. But for paid ebook and courses, these are a very structured and complete piece of information that would cut short the learning time as compared to the free one. It is even better to have a mentor that can guide you so that you have the confidence to start the journey.

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seobro

5 years ago

True, we can find most, if not all, the information that we need for free, but my time is a precious resource. Fact is, I would rather buy a 99 cent e-book that has all the information condensed into tiny bite size pieces. Witness the over arcing success of kindle on amazon. Most of that valuable information is available for free, but finding it takes time, and as you already know - time is money.

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ChrisBa

5 years ago

Originally Posted by abilify182

Well, in IM we have to research and learn before making that leap. But with blogs from internet marketers giving away free tips and information, case studies and even guides, and forums like these no doubt a lot of the information we need to get started are already available for free. So I'm asking my fellow IM'ers here, do you still buy paid ebooks and courses online? Are all information really free?

For those who are starting out, do you advise them to buy paid ebooks and courses?

Some, yes.
Some things are worth the cost. Some aren't

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JohnMcCabe

5 years ago

There's another 'gotcha' tied to free information you find on the web. Dates.

You could download an ebook on SEO, or email marketing, or content marketing, and the information could be solid gold - in 2005. Now the information could kill your business.

Just look at a common occurrence right here on the forum...

Some random spammer finds a thread from several years ago that happens to contain his keyword, opens a free account, and posts his spam.

This bumps the thread to the front page.

The spam post is removed, but the thread stays on the front page. And people start replying to it as if it was new. I've been guilty of this myself - not noticing an old date. Compounding this are people who never get past the original post before replying. Some never get past the subject line.

Now, if you are a newbie relying on free information only, this is dangerous. Years old information, which may or may not have been good back then, is on the front page of the forum with active participation. How's the newbie supposed to know the info is probably outdated?

Yes, I do still pay for ebooks and courses. But a quick scan tells me that both the content and suppliers of those ebooks and courses have changed over the year.

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe;hi

There's another 'gotcha' tied to free information you find on the web. Dates.

You could download an ebook on SEO, or email marketing, or content marketing, and the information could be solid gold - in 2005. Now the information could kill your business.

Just look at a common occurrence right here on the forum...

Some random spammer finds a thread from several years ago that happens to contain his keyword, opens a free account, and posts his spam.

This bumps the thread to the front page.

The spam post is removed, but the thread stays on the front page. And people start replying to it as if it was new. I've been guilty of this myself - not noticing an old date. Compounding this are people who never get past the original post before replying. Some never get past the subject line.

Now, if you are a newbie relying on free information only, this is dangerous. Years old information, which may or may not have been good back then, is on the front page of the forum with active participation. How's the newbie supposed to know the info is probably outdated?

Yes, I do still pay for ebooks and courses. But a quick scan tells me that both the content and suppliers of those ebooks and courses have changed over the year.

Hi John

Happy new year sir, may you have a fabulous year sir bye

Take care

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by abilify182

Well, in IM we have to research and learn before making that leap. But with blogs from internet marketers giving away free tips and information, case studies and even guides, and forums like these no doubt a lot of the information we need to get started are already available for free. So I'm asking my fellow IM'ers here, do you still buy paid ebooks and courses online? Are all information really free?

For those who are starting out, do you advise them to buy paid ebooks and courses?

BTW if I had not paid for a course, I would have been writing a similar post like you have done and waiting for replies from others

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by Alianour

Hello I'm a new member of the forum, and also a new member of the warrior site for Akny do not know how I work in the piece Warrior and how do I promote to my products and how can Musharraf to agree on a practical way of working and what I want to learn more about the warrior Plus

Hey to be honest ,I did not get your question,Who is Musharraf by the

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Kalambur

5 years ago

As I mentioned before in other messages, now I'm reading a book by Brian Tracy "No excuses. The power of self-discipline". Amazing book, by the way.
Nice quote:

Since knowledge in your field is probably doubling every two to five years, this means that 20 percent of your knowledge and skills are becoming obsolete each year

Oftentimes information becomes free when it is already obsolete.

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chyan007

Banned 5 years ago

Originally Posted by Kalambur

As I kmentioned before in other messages, now I'm reading a book by Brian Tracy "No excuses. The power of self-discipline". Amazing book, by the way.
Nice quote:

Oftentimes information becomes free when it is already obsolete.

Great point you made, and I have to admit it, thanks for the post

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Novotny

5 years ago

I believe you can get all the information for "free". But think about opportunity cost.

If I can get all the information I need along with an actionable blueprint spoon-fed by purchasing a course and put the new knowledge to use right away, it sure beats the alternative of digging for free information for weeks and then doing trial and error experiments.

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josephweb

5 years ago

Free information cane guide you to your first 100$ maybe, but it takes time from you to filter it and apply all of it.
Paid e-books and informations and training take you directly to the point , but be careful from who you buy, because every one is a Guru in the Internet, me i can pretend to be a guru and write a guide and put it for sell ... as every one do.
The good way to know if some one's books worth it, ask in Warrior forum or an other IM forum about the person if he is already known and already have a blog or a previous free or paid materials and thane buy and ask for a grantee period, or you will be SCAMED !

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faisalmaximus

5 years ago

I buy ebooks and courses regularly. For courses I depend on Udemy and I am highly satisfied with their courses.

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Keith Boisvert 5 years ago

When I first started I made the mistake of buying and buying. What I learned though, was that I needed to know WHAT I wanted to do. Once I picked what I wanted to do, it was much easier and cheaper in the long run.

I was able to devour all the free material out there, separating the bullshit from actionable and practical info. THEN, knowing what I didn't know(if that makes sense), I sought out those who were where I wanted to be, and purchased products from them.

Hope this makes sense, it's Sunday and the caffeine and skittles haven't quite kicked in yet.
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5 years ago

Originally Posted by abilify182

Well, in IM we have to research and learn before making that leap. But with blogs from internet marketers giving away free tips and information, case studies and even guides, and forums like these no doubt a lot of the information we need to get started are already available for free. So I'm asking my fellow IM'ers here, do you still buy paid ebooks and courses online? Are all information really free?

For those who are starting out, do you advise them to buy paid ebooks and courses?

If you can find all education materials for free from the friends who're living around you, why do you go to school?

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