Can I track conversions without access to HTML?

by BobanV
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Hi guys,

Not sure if I am on the right path, but have some client on freelancer and we need to track conversions, but we don't have access to HTML neither of sales page nor of thank you page.
He is using Zanox and Clickmeter and every tracking link needs HTML of the pages to past the code.

Any help appreciated.

Boban
#access #conversions #html #track
  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    Originally Posted by BobanV View Post

    but we don't have access to HTML neither of sales page nor of .

    Any help appreciated.

    Boban
    Why don't you have access to this? They are pages that belong to you or your client, right?

    al
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    • Profile picture of the author BobanV
      I guess my client is affiliate of other company, and he cannot get access to any html code of any page.
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      • Profile picture of the author PopeMarketing
        Originally Posted by BobanV View Post

        I guess my client is affiliate of other company, and he cannot get access to any html code of any page.
        Hi Boban,

        If you explain the situation clearly, and what exactly it is you're looking to keep track of (sales, visitors, opt-ins, etc), then it will be much easier for a fellow warrior to help you with your problem

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        • Profile picture of the author BobanV
          Originally Posted by PopeMarketing View Post

          Hi Boban,

          If you explain the situation clearly, and what exactly it is you're looking to keep track of (sales, visitors, opt-ins, etc), then it will be much easier for a fellow warrior to help you with your problem

          Shaun
          We need to keep track of conversion, it's booking service, so when someone book a cruise for example, we need to track that.
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          • Profile picture of the author PopeMarketing
            Originally Posted by BobanV View Post

            We need to keep track of conversion, it's booking service, so when someone book a cruise for example, we need to track that.
            Is this a CPA offer you're promoting? I don't understand.

            If you have 0 access to HTML your only options would be to utilise a service like Propsper, or CPVlab.

            Speak with your account manager at your network and have them assist you with this. They will also keep track of your conversions at their end.

            If this isn't a CPA offer you're promoting you'll need to be more specific and explain the situation and why you don't have access to the HTML.

            Hope this helped.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    So, you want to track affiliate sales? You can probably get some decent info via your affiliate dashboard for whatever network you are using.

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  • Profile picture of the author dvarmin
    You can't track conversions without access to HTML, you may only see what the network provides you (clicks, sales, etc..).
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  • Profile picture of the author chyan007
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    I think you can provided you have website URL but if you have the URL then you can have HTMLS

    In short if you do not have the URL or Html you wont be able to track it
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    • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
      Originally Posted by chyan007 View Post

      I think you can provided you have website URL but if you have the URL then you can have HTMLS

      In short if you do not have the URL or Html you wont be able to track it
      Huh!?

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  • At CPA companies you can usually put the tracking code (on most you can) and if ti's like Clickbank and similar you have to ask them to put the tracking code for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author BobanV
      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      At CPA companies you can usually put the tracking code (on most you can) and if ti's like Clickbank and similar you have to ask them to put the tracking code for you.
      We are using Clickmeter tracking system on Zanox affiliate network.
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        Originally Posted by BobanV View Post

        We are using Clickmeter tracking system on Zanox affiliate network.
        Have you contacted Clickmeter and Zanox with this question, what did they say?

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        • Profile picture of the author BobanV
          Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

          Have you contacted Clickmeter and Zanox with this question, what did they say?

          al
          Sure, waiting for response and in the meantime heard some people are complaining on Zanox support. The guy from Clickmeter provided me great support, but unfortunately for me they cannot do it without pasting the code.
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      • Originally Posted by BobanV View Post

        We are using Clickmeter tracking system on Zanox affiliate network.
        No on CPA networks I can usually put my tracking code and it will show conversions on CPV lab I'm sure it works with other tracking software. Not sure if this helps. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    You need to use a Postback URL. You would pass a Sub-ID to your Zanox affiliate URL, and then their system will post back the sales details to your Postback URL where you'll want to use their ##zpar0## token in your Postback URL to represent the Sub-ID. Dunno if ClickMeter can do this. I know ClickMagick can. They even have a tutorial on how to do it here:

    Track Affiliate Sales With Postback URLs
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsin qureshi
    You can not track conversation, its out of question.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Unless I am not understanding - you cannot do this without access to these pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    Sure you can. See the link I posted above about tracking your affiliate sales with postback urls. This works with all major affiliate networks, including Zanox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ahmed Umair
    you cannot track conversions unless you have page access.. Ask your client to talk to the affiliate company and get the access.. Cheers...
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  • Profile picture of the author JC Web
    Don't listen to the people telling you that you can't do this. Zanox clearly states that they provide this ability to affiliates and that it will work with external tracking. Listen to what dsiomtw said. I also have not used Clickmeter, I use CPVlab, but any tracking platform should provide conversion tracking through a postback url or you should stop using it and it switch to one of the many options that do.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    The client has to own a domain therefore you can track clicks pointing at a checkout page (Google Analytics, etc...).

    You'll never track actual sales conversions because the checkout page is obviously on another domain/server that you clearly don't have access.

    This is a weird thread considering I've never seen any affiliate network that didn't include their own tracking with an affiliate dashboard. If the client doesn't trust the affiliate network why bother, move on..
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    • Profile picture of the author JC Web
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The client has to own a domain therefore you can track clicks pointing at a checkout page (Google Analytics, etc...).

      You'll never track actual sales conversions because the checkout page is obviously on another domain/server that you clearly don't have access.

      This is a weird thread considering I've never seen any affiliate network that didn't include their own tracking with an affiliate dashboard. If the client doesn't trust the affiliate network why bother, move on..
      There are many reasons to use your own tracking, regardless of trusting the network. Affiliate network tracking by itself provides very limited data. Especially if any paid traffic is used, if you don't use your own tracking you are going to be throwing away a lot of money. Also, as said previously, they can definitely track sales conversions in this instance.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsiomtw
    To all the people saying it can't be done you should really learn about postback URLs:

    Track Affiliate Sales With Postback URLs

    Me and 1000s of other people are doing exactly what the OP wants to do, using ClickMagick or other good click trackers.
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