Traffic Secrets 2.0 has it reeeeeeally helped you?

by marxwarfor 35 replies
Hi Guys,

I bought TS2 when it came out, but since I live overseas and didn't want to pay extra shipping costs (plus possible duty fees on top of that), I am waiting for my friend in the U.S. to bring it over for me personally at the end of the year.

However, when I see Stompernet giving out so much free stuff as of late in the last week, to promote their Net Effect, I'm actually feeling really REALLY bummed, that I spent 400 bucks on TS2, where maybe i could have gotten a bunch of Stomper's stuff, that seems extremely extensive, for alot less?

Maybe it isn't exactly the same info as TS2, but I can't help feel really depressed that what I paid 400 bucks for, I could have obtained info that albeit, may not have been 'exactly' what John Reese has offered, but still enough info that could have equaled, if not surpassed what TS2 offered.....?

So, my question is.....if anybody has been using TS2, do you feel you've got your money's worth??
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Are you real?

    You haven't even received your package yet (by your own decision) and you're already complaining that you're bummed about it because you like a different offer that has come up since?

    Stop looking around for your solutions and spend the time you're waiting for TS2 to reach you to build a solid business on which to use the information it's going to teach you.

    You don't NEED anything more than TS2 will teach you so don't look everywhere and think the grass is greener, just get on with creating your business and consider yourself lucky that TS2 is on it's way to you - many people would love to be in your position.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      lol... yeah what he said ^^^

      You can't crucify a product without even seeing it and implementing it into your business...

      STSE2 was a totally different offer so of course it's gonna offer somethin different... does that mean it's better or just aimed at different techniques?

      That's for the product to prove, and only YOU can decide if it is worth it when you actually receive and use the product

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      p.s. You won't be bummed when you get it
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      • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
        Yes Jay and Andy,

        I completely agree and my sincere apologies for my faux pas, and if I came across as 'complaining' as you put it, that was certainly not my intention...

        Maybe what I should have asked, is what noticeable benefits has TS2 has given people??

        Maybe it's the anxiety of waiting for this program and not being able to get my hands on it as of yet, but, still going forward with my own projects as normal.

        By the way Andy, maybe you should take a look at Chris Sutton's most recent post, just as an FYI.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jermaine Tabor
    How long will it take to make the money needed to ship it?

    Seems it would it cost more not to have it near by when
    you've already paid for it vs 3 more months of it just
    collecting dust waiting to be delivered.

    If it don't work for you then this way you can adjust
    faster than waiting to see in 3 more months.

    John got his money so you may as well get yours.
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    • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
      Yes, Jermaine, point well taken indeed - thank you for your input.

      However, I guess I have a problem when people are telling me that I'm 'crucifying' a product when that couldn't be further from the truth!! Maybe some people should have a dictionary nearby when making posts? Yet, maybe I have at least, enough humility to acknowledge, that maybe I could have phrased my question in a different manner - and for that I feel badly.

      Originally Posted by Jermaine Tabor View Post

      How long will it take to make the money needed to ship it?

      Seems it would it cost more not to have it near by when
      you've already paid for it vs 3 more months of it just
      collecting dust waiting to be delivered.

      If it don't work for you then this way you can adjust
      faster than waiting to see in 3 more months.

      John got his money so you may as well get yours.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stanley Tang
        To be brutally honest, if you are looking for DETAILS and EXACT STEP-BY-STEP stuff, then Traffic Secrets isn't for you. It covers pretty much the concept behind each of the traffic generation tactics, and every now and then you'll get some golden nuggets.

        But nothing MIND-BLOWING or EARTH-SHATTERING. So I guess its more suitable for beginners. Traffic Secrets 1.0 was a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better product - probably one of the best internet marketing courses of all time.
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        • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
          Thanks for your reply Stanley, but I can't seem to recall anywhere where I was asking for 'Step-by Step' and 'detailed' info????

          All I was asking, is if anybody has felt they have gotten their money's worth from the program? Is that asking for 'step by step' instructions??




          Originally Posted by Stanley Tang View Post

          To be brutally honest, if you are looking for DETAILS and EXACT STEP-BY-STEP stuff, then Traffic Secrets isn't for you. It covers pretty much the concept behind each of the traffic generation tactics, and every now and then you'll get some golden nuggets.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
          Originally Posted by Stanley Tang View Post

          To be brutally honest, if you are looking for DETAILS and EXACT STEP-BY-STEP stuff, then Traffic Secrets isn't for you. It covers pretty much the concept behind each of the traffic generation tactics, and every now and then you'll get some golden nuggets.
          It is very nice to see someone giving an honest review! I'd much rather hear both the pros and cons of a product then hear that it's complete perfection. I mean, frankly, no product is perfect for everybody.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
          Originally Posted by Stanley Tang View Post

          To be brutally honest, if you are looking for DETAILS and EXACT STEP-BY-STEP stuff, then Traffic Secrets isn't for you. It covers pretty much the concept behind each of the traffic generation tactics, and every now and then you'll get some golden nuggets.
          Have you seen the product? I could have sworn there were printed checklists and an activity tracker (i.e. list of steps to follow).
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Comparing the prices is a bit apples and oranges, really. Sure, TS2 is more expensive up front. It also comes with lifetime membership. If you're planning on living more than another 10 months, the Stomper continuity program (assuming you stayed enrolled) would start to become more expensive quickly.

    They're also somewhat different in focus, but that's another matter entirely.


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    • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
      Thank you SO MUCH Paul, for basically being the only one, whom I got a direct answer to which I was originally asking - thank you!!

      Yeah, maybe I messed up with how I worded my question, but it's nice to know that there ARE some people out there, who can just set aside their 'emotional opinions' and just give me a 'matter of fact' answer instead.

      Thanks again Paul for being non-judgemental.



      Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

      Comparing the prices is a bit apples and oranges, really. Sure, TS2 is more expensive up front. It also comes with lifetime membership. If you're planning on living more than another 10 months, the Stomper continuity program (assuming you stayed enrolled) would start to become more expensive quickly.

      They're also somewhat different in focus, but that's another matter entirely.


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      • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
        Also sorry for putting the last 2 of my replies 'previous quotes' underneath, instead of on top, of my own replies - it's been a long day
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    Didn't really find so much new info in there...
    My advice to people not buying it- you can pretty much find all of this info over the web scrambled in bits and pieces for free, but finding it takes time and time is money.
    Definately good learning platform IMHO

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      • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
        Originally Posted by davebo View Post

        Yeah, I don't know how you can comment on the course if you haven't seen it yet. I can say that you really can't go wrong with Stompernet. I was a member of the program for 18 months and I can say that they delivery some seriously extreme value.

        I do wonder about Traffic Secrets though. I don't think I'm extremely hard to impress as far as products go. I don't buy a ton of products so the only thing that really gets me down on a product usually has to do with the amount of hype that I have coming in. Personally, I thought TS1 was a pretty overhyped product. I still do not get why so many people think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess i would feel differently if it was just Joe Blow who released that product without all the hype (and maybe the $1k price tag). Just based on the stuff that I read from JR, I kind of feel like his advice (more recently) is sometimes based too much on "When you're john reese marketing" as opposed to if you're joeblow. For example, he's all about facebook or twitter and talks about how he got 5k friends within 24 hours or whatever. Facebook didn't allow him to get 5k friends, it was john reese's name.

        And really the only real reviews I've ever seen about the product talk about the packaging. Seriously? Who cares?

        I think he's a great guy, obviously makes a lot of money. But I just think his stuff is pretty surface level personally. I'd rather see stuff like Jeff Johnson's, Howie Schwartz, or Stompernet's who actually get pretty down and dirty with details. And not relying on their names to evaluate a marketing tool.
        That's why I guess asked the question in the first place.......because I've heard that what he offers, is really all bunched up in a convenient package, but the actual material can be obtained for free in various places on the 'net.........however as previously mentioned, it would take time to scrounge around trying to find it all and that time would cost money.

        Yet, I'm sure it does hold value overall and maybe it's just that my anxiety of not seeing it yet first-hand, that is getting the best of me, but I do appreciate your opinion Dave - Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
            Originally Posted by davebo View Post

            Yeah, I'm sure it can be found elsewhere like anything else. With so many products, I just don't like when it's too "soft". Stompernet SMARTS, in my opinion, was what i would call a soft product. It was just a week by week introduction to various Social sites. They came up with a goofy ranking system, but it was pretty useless. I don't need someone to say "This is hubpages and you can create your own page here". That's useless. I'd much rather have Jeff Johnson say "You can create one, but if you want to get aggressive, then I'd make 1000".
            I hear ya Dave, as all I ask for is the 'nuts and bolts' - give me the cement, the nails, the rebar, I'll make do without the decorative tile, polished wood trim and curtains...but here's the kicker now that you mention Stompernet........they never sent me the bonus DVDs they promised by going through their affiliate link.....after multiple and 'polite' emails, they've never responded at all - nice...thanks!...and quite frankly, I doubt if I'll ever see them!
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              • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
                Was it worth the money - yes.

                Will it be for you...that depends mainly on how much of what John teaches you decide to put into action.

                In my case, I've been doing this internet marketing thing for over 8-years and there were still nuggets in the package - especially around his approach to keyword research - that will significantly improve my sales and profits in the next few months. In fact, some of the advice on keyword research and on-page SEO have already made a difference more than paying for the package.

                Are there areas that could go into more detail - sure...but we're not talking about a $1000+ package here, we're talking about a <$500 package that can easily be earned back within a few days by anyone currently marketing a product or service.

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        Originally Posted by davebo View Post

        Yeah, I don't know how you can comment on the course if you haven't seen it yet. I can say that you really can't go wrong with Stompernet. I was a member of the program for 18 months and I can say that they delivery some seriously extreme value.

        I do wonder about Traffic Secrets though. I don't think I'm extremely hard to impress as far as products go. I don't buy a ton of products so the only thing that really gets me down on a product usually has to do with the amount of hype that I have coming in. Personally, I thought TS1 was a pretty overhyped product. I still do not get why so many people think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I guess i would feel differently if it was just Joe Blow who released that product without all the hype (and maybe the $1k price tag). Just based on the stuff that I read from JR, I kind of feel like his advice (more recently) is sometimes based too much on "When you're john reese marketing" as opposed to if you're joeblow. For example, he's all about facebook or twitter and talks about how he got 5k friends within 24 hours or whatever. Facebook didn't allow him to get 5k friends, it was john reese's name.

        And really the only real reviews I've ever seen about the product talk about the packaging. Seriously? Who cares?

        I think he's a great guy, obviously makes a lot of money. But I just think his stuff is pretty surface level personally. I'd rather see stuff like Jeff Johnson's, Howie Schwartz, or Stompernet's who actually get pretty down and dirty with details. And not relying on their names to evaluate a marketing tool.
        No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Your describing things that I do NOT teach in my course. It has nothing to do with me saying go out and get 5,000 friends on Facebook in 24 hours, etc. In fact, I even state that there are many markets where Facebook won't even be worth using it all. But I digress... you're making statements about a course you don't know anything about.
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  • You know you are a great marketer when people ask for reviews of your product, or even voice a hint of skepticism about it, and you are nearly attacked.

    Oh wait, that doesn't mean anything other than people need to stop the fan boy crap and get back to business. The guy asked if the program actually helped anyone, and if maybe he should look at an alternative.

    Not everyone here has a solid business game plan down, a lot of people here aren't even making money online yet, so of course people are going to shop around. If you bought a million dollar ferrari, and found out lamborghini just launched a new bad ass car for roughly the same price, wouldn't you ask around to see if people are enjoying the ferrari?

    Duh?
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
      In all honesty, I believe the best bang for your buck is to work one-on-one with an experienced mentor or coach that will charge you a similar amount of money to some of these larger packages.

      It just makes no sense to me whatsoever to keep buying all these different large packages when you can get one-on-one coaching.

      Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised to learn that there are coaching and training packages outside of the "brand names" that don't charge you thousands of dollars.

      It's like going down to your local mall and buying a pair of namebrand jeans, you know deep down in your heart you're just paying for the name and nothing more. When you can go across street to get identical pair of jeans for 1/8 of the price.

      If you guys really want to get somewhere online fast stop buying all these high priced packages that the "gurus" will give you an illusion that you need.

      Trust me I've been doing this since 1997 and have made millions of dollars online I can tell you that "gurus" are trying to control the market by grouping together and offering you high priced packages across the board making you believe that you need an expensive product to be successful online.

      What's more interesting is that some of these "gurus" are only where they are at today by a mere association and nothing else. It doesn't mean they know more than you, it doesn't mean they know less than you about Internet marketing.

      My point is the "gurus" are giving you the illusion that by buying their expensive packages you are buying into some secrets that can only be obtainable through them that will catapult your Internet marketing business.

      Guys I'm telling you, I've bought a lot of big packages. Save your money. You can find more than enough on this forum to give you everything that you need to be successful online.

      My only suggestion would be that if you were trying to get where your going a little faster, is to spend a few hundred dollars and find a mentor or coach to work one-on-one with instead of buying a "home study course"

      Frank Bruno
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
        Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

        In all honesty, I believe the best bang for your buck is to work one-on-one with an experienced mentor or coach that will charge you a similar amount of money to some of these larger packages.

        It just makes no sense to me whatsoever to keep buying all these different large packages when you can get one-on-one coaching.

        How much good coaching can you get for $400?
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          Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

          How much good coaching can you get for $400?

          PM me and I'll show you...

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        Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

        In all honesty, I believe the best bang for your buck is to work one-on-one with an experienced mentor or coach that will charge you a similar amount of money to some of these larger packages.

        It just makes no sense to me whatsoever to keep buying all these different large packages when you can get one-on-one coaching.

        Some of you guys will be pleasantly surprised to learn that there are coaching and training packages outside of the "brand names" that don't charge you thousands of dollars.

        It's like going down to your local mall and buying a pair of namebrand jeans, you know deep down in your heart you're just paying for the name and nothing more. When you can go across street to get identical pair of jeans for 1/8 of the price.

        If you guys really want to get somewhere online fast stop buying all these high priced packages that the "gurus" will give you an illusion that you need.

        Trust me I've been doing this since 1997 and have made millions of dollars online I can tell you that "gurus" are trying to control the market by grouping together and offering you high priced packages across the board making you believe that you need an expensive product to be successful online.

        What's more interesting is that some of these "gurus" are only where they are at today by a mere association and nothing else. It doesn't mean they know more than you, it doesn't mean they know less than you about Internet marketing.

        My point is the "gurus" are giving you the illusion that by buying their expensive packages you are buying into some secrets that can only be obtainable through them that will catapult your Internet marketing business.

        Guys I'm telling you, I've bought a lot of big packages. Save your money. You can find more than enough on this forum to give you everything that you need to be successful online.

        My only suggestion would be that if you were trying to get where your going a little faster, is to spend a few hundred dollars and find a mentor or coach to work one-on-one with instead of buying a "home study course"

        Frank Bruno
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        Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
    Hi marxwarfor,

    If I may be so bold ...

    I noticed you've apologized at least 3 times (or more - I quit counting) for different things you believe you did wrong in this thread.

    The truth is ...

    You do not have to apologize for doing anything in this thread!

    You are the OP, and asked a simple question. There isn't a thing wrong with that! You also posted comments where you posted them ... above or below a quote, it makes no difference at all.

    You aren't being offensive at all.

    If you ask me, you should be taking offense of some of the comments you received.

    Do yourself a big favor. Don't let people sway or bully you into thinking you are dumb for posting.

    If you weren't "real", you most likely wouldn't have asked the question to start with right?

    Sheesh, I hate it when people come off strong putting someone down because they are asking something.

    To answer your question about TS2 ...

    I got a free copy from Allen, and I simply love the darn thing. I would've bought a copy if I didn't get the copy I have now because I know John's products are always topnotch.

    After getting down to some of his tactics, I can honestly say that it is well worth every penny he is charging. I made more money from this one thing in the past 5 weeks then I have using anything else. And I was doing fairly well without it.

    The best part about it is, is that you only pay the one time fee as Paul pointed out.

    Hope this helps ...


    Mary
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    • Profile picture of the author marxwarfor
      Originally Posted by mmurtha View Post

      Hi marxwarfor,

      If I may be so bold ...

      I noticed you've apologized at least 3 times (or more - I quit counting) for different things you believe you did wrong in this thread.

      The truth is ...

      You do not have to apologize for doing anything in this thread!

      You are the OP, and asked a simple question. There isn't a thing wrong with that! You also posted comments where you posted them ... above or below a quote, it makes no difference at all.

      You aren't being offensive at all.

      If you ask me, you should be taking offense of some of the comments you received.

      Do yourself a big favor. Don't let people sway or bully you into thinking you are dumb for posting.

      If you weren't "real", you most likely wouldn't have asked the question to start with right?

      Sheesh, I hate it when people come off strong putting someone down because they are asking something.

      To answer your question about TS2 ...

      I got a free copy from Allen, and I simply love the darn thing. I would've bought a copy if I didn't get the copy I have now because I know John's products are always topnotch.

      After getting down to some of his tactics, I can honestly say that it is well worth every penny he is charging. I made more money from this one thing in the past 5 weeks then I have using anything else. And I was doing fairly well without it.

      The best part about it is, is that you only pay the one time fee as Paul pointed out.

      Hope this helps ...


      Mary

      Yes, thank you Mary, for both your opinion regarding the program and your support - very kind of you

      It's too bad there aren't more people like you and also the poster who gave the Ferrari and Lamborghini analogy, who aren't out to twist peoples' words around and allude that maybe such questions are too naive to even be considered.

      Thankfully, I've still found that the majority of the people on this forum are truly sincere and want to help others and for that I'm grateful.
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  • Profile picture of the author simmonsmike7
    I'm going to be brutally honest, since you asked.

    Traffic secrets 2.0, in my opinion was a pile of crap. There I said it, now the mods can come delete this post because I was honest :-)

    No but seriously, the stuff in there was SUPER BASIC (as a few others said). John Reese is a brand and he used it to sell 1000s of courses.

    He went over the basics of each traffic generation technique... and um well that was about it. Nothing new at all, no step by step details, nada - just an overview of the technique.

    I was honest, and that's what you wanted.
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    • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
      Originally Posted by simmonsmike7 View Post

      I'm going to be brutally honest, since you asked.

      Traffic secrets 2.0, in my opinion was a pile of crap. There I said it, now the mods can come delete this post because I was honest :-)

      No but seriously, the stuff in there was SUPER BASIC (as a few others said). John Reese is a brand and he used it to sell 1000s of courses.

      He went over the basics of each traffic generation technique... and um well that was about it. Nothing new at all, no step by step details, nada - just an overview of the technique.

      I was honest, and that's what you wanted.
      Lol you probably wouldn't mind getting deleted, especially since you started with this username 9/11/08.

      Question ... if you are being so honest about everything, why not come out with your main username?

      I find it hard to believe someone that just joined this forum knows, and has a strong opinion, about this product. The WFis one of the top marketing forums on the net, so why stop by now?

      Nothing in your sig, nothing in your profile, no friends, etc ...


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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        Mary,
        Question ... if you are being so honest about everything, why not come out with your main username?
        Oh, my dear, you KNOW the anonymous chickenshits don't want to be held to account.

        Why do we tolerate these mucking forons?


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        • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
          I can tell you it's the real deal.

          I'm just on to it and I'm already pumping in the leads from Adwords using its blueprint (which is concise but gets straight to the brass tacks).

          Can't wait to implement the Content Factory section and start implementing a blog.

          There's even a few advanced article marketing tactics in it. Well worth the $397.

          And I can tell you while the overall strategies (pay per click, blogging, article marketing) are known to everyone, there are tons of golden nuggets in there.

          Which I suspect the knee-jerkers who glanced at the contents page won't get to see.

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        • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Mary,Oh, my dear, you KNOW the anonymous chickenshits don't want to be held to account.

          Why do we tolerate these mucking forons?


          Paul

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          Paul,

          Lol you do have a way with words.

          You are right, they never do want to be held accountable.

          <very big sigh> Don't you know it's always better to hide when stating the truth, then claim how brutally honest we are about what we say?

          Fly-by chickens ... they're no better than the spammers in my book.


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        • Profile picture of the author David Birley
          Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

          Mary,Oh, my dear, you KNOW the anonymous chickenshits don't want to be held to account.

          Why do we tolerate these mucking forons?


          Paul

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          Ha! Just read this...

          Mucking Forons!

          You are a Cunny Funt!

          Incidently... cunnyfunt.com is not available. It's owned by MAMBO.

          They sure know how to make shunny fit.

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  • Profile picture of the author David Birley
    TS2 is actually a very good product for the price (IMHO).

    Even paying (Insert large swallowing GULP sound here) $80 for shipping to get it.

    It is quite extensive, although basic in parts (as I believe it has to be for some people). That said, allow a fair while to go through it.

    So many people just buy products and they sit on the shelf for a "rainy day" - and although (especially if you've been around a while) some of the "secrets" in TS2 aren't really "Secrets", the product is quite a bit different to Stompernets.

    You DON'T NEED to have a website to initially benefit from TS2.

    You probably DO NEED to have a website to benefit from Stompernet.

    The thing is, (i know it's a cliche) even if you just get ONE benefit that grows your business from these products, over time that's a good thing.

    Just choose your purchases wisely, and don't get SUCKED INTO all these mega "Oh My God - I Am Giving Away The House Here" type bonuses that you will never ever use.

    Cheers

    Dave

    p.s. Don't buy stuff that you can't afford to have SHIPPED TO YOU.
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