Are music niches a waste of time?

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Hi, everyone!


I would like to know if a music niche is a viable way to make money when it comes to affiliate marking? I haven’t had any luck with my music niche ever since I signed up with amazon associates back in August 2015. I almost didn’t make it into the program because I couldn’t make any sales within a set period of time. I had to get my sister to click on one of my affiliate links and buy something, so they wouldn’t reject my application.


My Current Strategy
-I first sample new songs within my niche.
-I then write an informative review.
-If I give the single/album a positive review I include the affiliate links.
-I make sure I include a youtube, or soundcloud so people can sample the songs.
-I then post my reviews on twitter.
-My goal is to help people find the best songs within my niche and learn about it.

This strategy is obviously not working. I have very low traffic to my blog. According to google analytics I have 0 clicks with only 30 impressions. My target audience seems to be very reluctant to click on my tweets, or blog and buy the music I promote. Is there a better way to promote amazon’s music, or is it just a waste of time? I used the search function, but I didn't see anything about promoting music for amazon.

Additional Info
-My Website: http://trancemusicoutpost.siterubix.com/
-I got my blog for free from wealthyaffiliate.com
-I've been doing IM for only 5 months
-I'm currently unemployed, live with parents and have no money to invest.







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  • Profile picture of the author hammadsaeed
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    I would suspect that trying to make affiliate commissions by promoting music through Amazon would be very tough.

    There are too many options to buy music and Amazon is not the top source.

    You say you "sample new songs in my niche". Are you targeting a particular genre of music (rap/metal/top 40)? Oh- I see from your site it is Trance.


    What is the average cost of the product (song? album?) you recommend?
    How much is your affiliate commission on a sale?
    How many sales do you need in a week to make your goal of XX$?

    What other streams of income do you have?

    Affiliate ticket sales for live shows?
    T-shirts/posters/memorabilia?

    If you are going to target a difficult and low paying market like digital music sales you need to maximize your income streams.
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    • Profile picture of the author CQ78Libra
      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      I would suspect that trying to make affiliate commissions by promoting music through Amazon would be very tough.

      There are too many options to buy music and Amazon is not the top source.

      You say you "sample new songs in my niche". Are you targeting a particular genre of music (rap/metal/top 40)? Oh- I see from your site it is Trance.


      What is the average cost of the product (song? album?) you recommend?
      How much is your affiliate commission on a sale?
      How many sales do you need in a week to make your goal of XX$?

      What other streams of income do you have?

      Affiliate ticket sales for live shows?
      T-shirts/posters/memorabilia?

      If you are going to target a difficult and low paying market like digital music sales you need to maximize your income streams.
      Thanks for responding!

      Yes, it's a specific genre of electronic dance music it's called trance music. The average product that I promote is like $1.98, or $2.00 with 4% commission sale. My goal? I would be happy if a made at least $20.00 each week...anything. This is the only niche website that I have.
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      • Profile picture of the author bigfleet
        I don't want to sound rude with the following post especially as it is my first post I am trying to help.

        First of all you mention you are unemployed. Are you a student? Or a professional couch potato like so many kids these days?

        First of all. I do not know how you would review the electronic/trance genre. It's the same beats played repeatedly and takes no musical talent to produce. All the DJs do is push play and then jump around and pretend they are doing something.

        Rant over.

        1) You should have a self hosted domain. The the 'yourdomain'.siterubix.com is too long and annoying for users to remember.

        2) In all honesty,with commissions of 4% and the price of the item being $2. your time might be better spent walking the streets looking for spare change.

        To answer your question, music niches are not a waste of time. Do you have any knowledge about producing tracks in the genre? DJ equipment is expensive and you could review equipment. 4% for a commission of DJ headphones in the $100s is better than $2 for a track.

        Promote something with a higher price tag. You will be putting in the same effort for a larger return.

        In terms of raising money. You should find yourself a job. Even if it is for a few hours. You can then reinvest that money. You could always sell unused things around the house on ebay.

        Your current strategy needs some tweaking but good luck
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        • Profile picture of the author CQ78Libra
          Originally Posted by bigfleet View Post

          I don't want to sound rude with the following post especially as it is my first post I am trying to help.

          First of all you mention you are unemployed. Are you a student? Or a professional couch potato like so many kids these days?

          First of all. I do not know how you would review the electronic/trance genre. It's the same beats played repeatedly and takes no musical talent to produce. All the DJs do is push play and then jump around and pretend they are doing something.

          Rant over.


          1) You should have a self hosted domain. The the 'yourdomain'.siterubix.com is too long and annoying for users to remember.

          2) In all honesty,with commissions of 4% and the price of the item being $2. your time might be better spent walking the streets looking for spare change.

          To answer your question, music niches are not a waste of time. Do you have any knowledge about producing tracks in the genre? DJ equipment is expensive and you could review equipment. 4% for a commission of DJ headphones in the $100s is better than $2 for a track.

          Promote something with a higher price tag. You will be putting in the same effort for a larger return.

          In terms of raising money. You should find yourself a job. Even if it is for a few hours. You can then reinvest that money. You could always sell unused things around the house on ebay.

          Your current strategy needs some tweaking but good luck


          When it comes to doing reviews I specifically look for unique features in the composition that make the song standout, memorable, and pleasing to listen to. If the song lacks these features, or if it's very cliché then I give it a negative review. Trance songs don't all use the same beats. This is a common misconception. When people, who are not into electronic dance music hear this kind of music for the first time they tend to think it's all the same, but this is not true. There is a big difference between trance, techno, house and dubstep. People like you just don't know what to look for in the composition--this is the primary reason why I make my reviews very technical and point things out in the composition. And I completely disagree with your ignorant remark about all trance producers being a talentless act. Yes...there are some talentless people within this genre, but you can't paint them all with the same brush. There are trance producers that are extraordinarily talented within this genre...your mind is just not open to it!


          Rant over!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Is there a better way to promote amazon’s music, or is it just a waste of time?
    You would make more from Adsense, assuming you could get visitors on the site.

    $1.98, or $2.00 with 4% commission sale
    So, $0.08 per sale. Only 250 sales required for your $20 per week goal.

    Do you think you should keep researching?
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    • Profile picture of the author CQ78Libra
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      You would make more from Adsense, assuming you could get visitors on the site.



      So, $0.08 per sale. Only 250 sales required for your $20 per week goal.

      Do you think you should keep researching?
      LOL...250 sales within a week! It will probably never happen, especially when it comes to digital music. I guess it is a waste of time! It looks like I'm gonna have to give it up, and look for another niche that interest me.
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      • Profile picture of the author bigfleet
        Originally Posted by CQ78Libra View Post

        LOL...250 sales within a week! It will probably never happen, especially when it comes to digital music. I guess it is a waste of time! It looks like I'm gonna have to give it up, and look for another niche that interest me.
        You should have did the maths to see if it was worth your time and how many sales you would need to reach to achieve your goal.

        Use this experience as a lesson. You will be more successful next time I'm sure of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    supply and demand. Use the google keyword planner and if there is a demand then sure why not! Just find out what your top competition is doing and do it better.

    Somebody to hit up is Jamie Lewis. I talk with Jamie on Skype and he can surly give you some sound advice. It's how he got started online and he is very good at what he does.
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    • Profile picture of the author CQ78Libra
      Originally Posted by EPoltrack77 View Post

      supply and demand. Use the google keyword planner and if there is a demand then sure why not! Just find out what your top competition is doing and do it better.

      Somebody to hit up is Jamie Lewis. I talk with Jamie on Skype and he can surly give you some sound advice. It's how he got started online and he is very good at what he does.
      Thanks..I'm going to look him up!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mattdawg841
    That's great that you're trying to break into the music niche!

    The only concern that I would have for what you're doing is that people can get just about any type of music they want (whether it be in the form of a single song or full album) for free online.

    Granted there is plenty of opportunity for you to make some monies with what you're doing, a I would imagine a healthy chunk of people would prefer to save their money when the option to get it for free is also readily available...

    Just my thoughts and the best of luck
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    • Profile picture of the author CQ78Libra
      Originally Posted by Mattdawg841 View Post

      That's great that you're trying to break into the music niche!

      The only concern that I would have for what you're doing is that people can get just about any type of music they want (whether it be in the form of a single song or full album) for free online.

      Granted there is plenty of opportunity for you to make some monies with what you're doing, a I would imagine a healthy chunk of people would prefer to save their money when the option to get it for free is also readily available...

      Just my thoughts and the best of luck
      exactly...you hit the nail right on the head. I'm gonna have to look for a niche that people can't get online for free.
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  • Profile picture of the author kerunai
    "Music" as a keyword is too vague. So is "download music." Despite the fact that it has high monthly search values and medium competition, it's just too broad a keyword.

    If this is the route you want to go, It would help to have a specific music genre in mind. Picking out several music products to promote would also help, so make sure to have these before you hunt for keywords. Knowing which group of music lovers you're targeting and which products you're going to promote will dictate the keywords you'll look for and pick. For example, if you're into ABBA and all those great '70s songs, then your keywords would contain either the performer's name, the actual song, or the genre. Phrases such as "download Dancing Queen ABBA" are more targeted than "download music."

    There are other markets to target, too, such as musical instruments, or as I've found out, software that you can use to create and mix music. There are specific product keywords you can use too. If you're recommending a particular brand of guitars, then you can target keywords with buyer intent, like "buy rhythm guitar"

    The search results bring up several different keywords, with "buy guitar" having high competition. You can choose to target just "rhythm guitar." It has more monthly search values, but lower competition. I would definitely target the keyword with lower competition, but I also look for a good balance on my list: keywords with high buyer intent mixed with information or how-to keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
      I have been in the music niche for years. Although I started and sold 2 Internet radio stations, primarily in the metal/rock niche, as well as marketing and band promo.

      Best advice so far that I read here was to also promote equipment and maybe even software. If you have in depth knowledge, why not expand out? And have your site contain more than just reviews....industry news, events in various cities, mix it up so visitors have more to look at. Same thing with your tweets, fb posts etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author kilgore
    I think it's a mistake to abandon a business simply because the profit per sale is low. It's not the profit per sale that matters -- it's your total profit. Put another way, if you could make $1 million, would it be worth less if you made it selling $1 songs rather than $1,000 in diamond rings?

    And it should also be noted that it's usually -- though not always -- easier to sell cheaper products than it is to sell more expensive products. Notice I said, "sell" not "promote". As many people like to point out, it's just as easy to promote expensive products as it is to promote cheap products. But when it comes to sales -- and sales are all that matters -- cheaper products usually win the day. That's why Coca-Cola makes more than Moet et Chandon (Dom Perignon). That's why Ford makes more than Ferrari.

    But of course, this is business and there are always exceptions.

    All that said, I do agree with a lot of the advice you recieved. You do need to do the math, and every business is different. With my business, I'd probably cry myself to sleep if I got less than 250 sales in a day let alone in an entire week. But that may not be true for you.

    Still, there are 7 billion people in the world and because this is the internet you have access to almost all of them. But of course, so does your competition. Obviously people interested in electronic trance music is a much, much smaller subsection of that 7 billion, but still, if after your site is mature you can't get 250 people a week to spend a measly $1, the problem won't be with the niche your in, the problem will be that your site sucks.

    I also agree the Amazon isn't really where people shop for music, but that's not a huge problem. Get an iTunes account. Or if there's another site where people tend to buy electronic trance music, join their affiliate program. And no need to be exclusive. You can join them all if it makes sense.

    Lastly, I'd suggest that you not limit your thinking to selling songs. As onSubie suggested there are other products that you might also be able to sell. And while I think AdSense pays crap, crap is still better than nothing, so having a few ads wouldn't hurt. Moreover, once you get to a certain size you might consider selling ads directly, doing sponsored posts or otherwise getting ad revenue outside of AdSense.

    But all that is only possible if you're actually delivering something of value. I guarantee you that if you have the best site on the internet in your niche, you'll be able to readily monetize it. On the other hand, if you have the 10,000th best site on the internet in your niche, you'll struggle to pay for your hosting costs. But that's not unique to your niche -- that's true for every niche.
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