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Lou Diamond

17 years ago

Hello,
I say a big FALSE!
If I have a problem with a customer I resolve it asap.

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dou9las

17 years ago

I think a lot of people will not buy a product if there is a mention of it in the Rip Off Report. Just my opinion, haven't ever thought much about a benefit of being mentioned there...

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Dave777

17 years ago

They may be High up there on the pages in Google land But best staying far away from their directory of problems!

There are much smarter marketing methods and tactics if you're just aiming for some Free publicity...

Dave

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dorim

17 years ago

Is this a trick question?

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Scott Ames 17 years ago

Originally Posted by dorim

Is this a trick question?

What would be the trick?
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- Lawrh 17 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Scott Ames
  
  What would be the trick?
  
  Here's a lengthy article about Magedson. He's accepted money to remove complaints and is regarded as an extortionist. The stuff that gets posted is unbelievable. Anyone can say anything about anyone, facts are optional.
  
  Phoenix News - The Real Rip-Off Report - page 1
  
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JWB

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Scott Ames

If you are not pissing people off , you are not pushing hard enough? If you are not in the Ripoff Report as a scam, you are being to timid in your marketing. True or False?

Definately FALSE......

Pissing people off just generates bad karma that comes
back to you..tenfold..

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Matt Wahle

17 years ago

False.

If a product is listed in the Ripoff Report, I won't buy it. It's a credibility killer.

There is one product in particular I wish I had Googled for problems before purchasing. I did get ripped off... whole sections missing, didn't deliver the content promised, recommended illegal or unethical tactics. Paid by Paypal so couldn't get my money back. If I had checked the Ripoff Report first, I would have been forewarned and not bought it. Man was I pissed!!

MW

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Michael D

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Wahle

False.

If a product is listed in the Ripoff Report, I won't buy it. It's a credibility killer.

There is one product in particular I wish I had Googled for problems before purchasing. I did get ripped off... whole sections missing, didn't deliver the content promised, recommended illegal or unethical tactics. Paid by Paypal so couldn't get my money back. If I had checked the Ripoff Report first, I would have been forewarned and not bought it. Man was I pissed!!

MW

You do realize that anyone, and I mean anyone, can post whatever they want on that site about any product. If you had a product and were in competition with me I could put out a false report no problem. Or, if you have some crazy customer demanding the world and you obviously can't deliver.

I can guarantee there are a lot of products on there that are legit and aren't scams.

What the op is trying to say, and I agree with, is that if you get big enough eventually someone is going to try and bring you down. I think that is his point.

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Michael Mayo 17 years ago

FALSE
Nuff Said

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Matt Wahle

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael D

You do realize that anyone, and I mean anyone, can post whatever they want on that site about any product. If you had a product and were in competition with me I could put out a false report no problem. Or, if you have some crazy customer demanding the world and you obviously can't deliver.

I can guarantee there are a lot of products on there that are legit and aren't scams.

What the op is trying to say, and I agree with, is that if you get big enough eventually someone is going to try and bring you down. I think that is his point.

Of course. I think you missed the overall point, that I wasn't speaking of just the Ripoff Report, but ripoff type reports in general ("I wish I had Googled for problems before purchasing"). The question in this thread is whether such complaints would be credible, and should the presence of such reports be an indication of success? My post (as with many others in this thread) was about credible reports, which my experience confirmed were justified, for the product I purchased.

Don't miss the forest for the trees.

MW

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Michael D

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Matt Wahle

Of course. I think you missed the overall point, that I wasn't speaking of just the Ripoff Report, but ripoff type reports in general ("I wish I had Googled for problems before purchasing"). The question in this thread is whether such complaints would be credible, and should the presence of such reports be an indication of success? My post (as with many others in this thread) was about credible reports, which my experience confirmed were justified, for the product I purchased.

Don't miss the forest for the trees.

MW

I didn't miss your point at all. If you Google any successful product with the word scam or ripoff you will find blog posts and forum posts claiming such. I am in no way saying people shouldn't use due diligence before purchasing a product. But, finding credible "reviews" of products is tough these days. Different customers will get different impressions of products. Just because Joe Blow writes a "review" about a certain product saying it was a scam because it didn't work for him doesn't mean the product is a scam.

Add to the fact people are trying to rank for product+scam all the time hoping to get traffic for those searches. I am just saying don't completely write something off because of a few bad "reviews".

The only time I will avoid a product, like you said, was if there are many complaints about it not working as advertised or customer service issues(not honoring refunds, etc).

The OP was talking about a site that is known for allowing anyone to post anything they want about a product or service. If you use a product that is fairly popular and search on that site I can almost guarantee it will come up with some kind of listing.

Does this mean you think the product is now a scam?

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Mike Hill

17 years ago

Just waiting for that site to get sued one of these fine days

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Scott Murdaugh

17 years ago

My answer is NO, I don't want to be listed on RipOffReport.

BUT... I do think they're a sham company, anyone can say anything, businesses have no recourse, and they hurt more businesses than customers they help.

Google my name, I'm not on there. But I HATE that site. It's a complete scam.

-Scott

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George Wright

17 years ago

Scott,

I gave you a thanks on your question because it's one I've pondered myself.

LOL

George Wright

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George Wright

17 years ago

In the year 3000

"As seen on Rip Off Report"

Replaces "As seen on TV"

George Wright, P.S. There are very few Corporations, Well Known Restaurants, Entertainment companies, and Majorly successful Internet marketers who are not on there.

Does this translates into actual losses for them or gains for them? Who Knows?.

George Wright

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Scott Ames

17 years ago

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InternetM39482

17 years ago

In the year 3000

"As seen on Rip Off Report"

Replaces "As seen on TV"

Personally, I won't want to be in the RipOff Report.

However I agree on the point that when you get big enough, there are people who will try to get you down.

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SageSound

17 years ago

There's a philosophy that says, "no PR is BAD PR". From that standpoint, getting in the RipOff Report is no different than being featured in a "Best Of..." column.

Personally speaking, I'd rather get exposure in better neighborhoods.

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MichaelHiles

17 years ago

Even the absolutely worst PR can be overcome and re-engineered.

Michael Vick

Lance Armstrong

the list continues...

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James Schramko 17 years ago

Originally Posted by MichaelHiles

Even the absolutely worst PR can be overcome and re-engineered.

Michael Vick

Lance Armstrong

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Jay Jennings

17 years ago

If you are not pissing people off , you are not pushing hard enough

Didn't Gary Halbert say something like that?

I also think I recall him saying if your refund rate is very small then you need to be more aggressive in your marketing -- same kind of thing.

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Scott Ames

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Jay Jennings

Didn't Gary Halbert say something like that?

I also think I recall him saying if your refund rate is very small then you need to be more aggressive in your marketing -- same kind of thing.

Jay Jennings

Good question. I'm not who said it originally. I think you may be right.

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MeCanX

17 years ago

gonna have to go false on that one...

Why ruin your name and creditability?

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markshields

17 years ago

I dont think you want to be in the rip off report to be honest if you can at all avoid it however what I will say is the sort of people who read such reports are not immediate action takers and action takers are those that we do want

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