What do you think are the top 5 most competitive niches out there?

16 years ago

My thought for #1: Internet marketing.

Because it's a popular topic for the lifestyle an aging, but too poor to retire, population desires, and because the experts on how to compete in a niche, any niche, are working right in it.

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Ernie Lo 16 years ago

I'm just taking a stab but I'd say:

Porn
Dating
Golf
Weight Loss
Internet Marketing
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- sparrow 16 years ago
  
  I took at some of the terms looked in Google for how competitive they were
  
  some are more general but got a couple of surprises
  
  1,880,000,000 for software
  1,390,000,000 for travel
  849,000,000 for credit
  765,000,000 for marketing
  702,000,000 for real estate
  658,000,000 for insurance
  617,000,000 for golf
  578,000,000 for finance
  467,000,000 for hosting
  309,000,000 for work at home
  307,000,000 for dating
  280,000,000 for seo
  232,000,000 for porn
  231,000,000 for mortgage
  223,000,000 for diet
  154,000,000 for Credit Cards
  134,000,000 for web hosting
  108,000,000 for make money
  90,300,000 for Weight Loss
  82,500,000 for internet marketing
  
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  jbshort 16 years ago
  
  My top three:
  
  1. Internet Marketing
  2. Weight Loss
  3. Dating
  
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  kazmagic 16 years ago
  
  [quote=sparrow;100261]I took at some of the terms looked in Google for how competitive they were
  
  some are more general but got a couple of surprises
  
  This is a great list.
  
  Perhaps, if it is not too difficult, you could tell Cloudchaser22 (and me) how to get this list. I think this would be a good resource to help answer their question.
  
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  Brad Spencer 16 years ago
  
  A way to find out what niches are the biggest/most stumbled is when you add a page to stumbleupon and it provides a tag cloud of "frequently tagged." I'd suggest looking for niche opportunities in these things...could have potential for some major viral traffic.
  
  I know that was a bit tangential to your specific questions...but I suspect you were wanting to go that way eventually!
  
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Terry Hatfield

16 years ago

Great list Sparrow.

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Kurt

16 years ago

I'll guess:
porn
prescription drugs
real estate
insurance
credit/loans

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Ephrils

16 years ago

Gambling
Porn
Dating
Internet Marketing
Real Estate

You've got to real good to make a dent in those.

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cloudchaser22

16 years ago

Cool thanks guys!

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Daniel Molano

16 years ago

The fact that the niches mentioned are the most competitive also means that they have the highest demand, therefore they are the most profitable.

Think "abundance" guys, there's enough to go around for everyone.

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nofearman

16 years ago

I disagree. These markets are highly saturated and extremely difficult to penetrate. You'll have a much better chance "focusing" on a relatively untapped niche

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Daniel Molano

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Luke Sample

Couple things.

1 - If you think internet marketing is one of the most competitive niches you are VERY mistaken. It is WAY down the list.

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Probably one of the worst ways to determine the level of competition.

Maybe not Internet Marketing per say, but the whole Make Money Online mega niche (which includes IM) is definately one of the top on the list, at least online.

It is also a very competitive niche because of the 'know-how' of the marketers working in it, again, I'm talking online. I know about offline marketers that may have 3 PhDs but don't even know what SEO stands for.

The niche competition offline is very different from the competition online, although everyday you see a higher degree of integration between both.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by nofearman

I disagree. These markets are highly saturated and extremely difficult to penetrate. You'll have a much better chance "focusing" on a relatively untapped niche

That's one of the reasons that they're so competitive

Check the PPC keyword rates

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Ryan_Taylor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by nofearman

I disagree. These markets are highly saturated and extremely difficult to penetrate. You'll have a much better chance "focusing" on a relatively untapped niche

No offense, but I completely disagree. These niches provide enormous amounts of products, partnership opportunities and an audience that will always crave new content.

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Mary Laine

16 years ago

Ummm yes, that's right, you just stay right away from the top niches..and leave them for the people who want to make big money

Originally Posted by nofearman

I disagree. These markets are highly saturated and extremely difficult to penetrate. You'll have a much better chance "focusing" on a relatively untapped niche

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nofearman 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Georgina

Ummm yes, that's right, you just stay right away from the top niches..and leave them for the people who want to make big money

Guess everyone has an opinion, but it's basic "Marketing 101". Far more percentage of successful people target and focus on special niches instead of trying to be all over the map with "Ohh, I'll make money selling "Get Quick Rich schemes". WHy do you think less then .1% of MLM marketers make any REAL money? Hint: They're ALL trying to do the SAME thing. It's not the REALITY of the opportuntity that drives the MLM organization, it's the HYPE. Even the top Internet Marketers sell HYPE more then anything else. But, don't believe me, do your own survey of for example "Send Out Cards". How many are making over $100,000 a year with their SOC business? Or even simply $50,000?
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- Steven Wagenheim 16 years ago
  
  Without doing the research, I'd say these are the top 5 in no particular order.
  
  1. IM
  2. Gambling
  3. Health
  4. Porn
  5. Debt Relief
  
  I'm pretty sure these 5 certainly must fall somewhere in the top 10.
  
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sparrow

16 years ago

to get the competition for the list I posted just go into Google add your search term and to the right of the search listing you will see how many websites are listed in Googles index

this is how I find out what my competition is

then from there I use the free wordtracker tool to digg out hidden niches

I put together a tool that semiautomates this process all you have todo is add the captcha and the tool diggs till there is nothing available from wordtracker

one of my clients is in a very competitive niche for the root word and we found a long tail keyword phrase that got 2 times the amount of searches with very little competition, guess what he did

but don't be afraid to jump into very competitive niches this is where the money is, then next look for low hanging fruit where you can carve a piece of the action for yourself

so Google the search terms to the right is the competitive listing counts

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Ron Douglas

16 years ago

Here's the real question:

In anyone of those niches, could you build a list of at least 10,000 in under a year if you applied yourself.

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johntanyishin 16 years ago

I think the competitive one will be quite obvious, like credit cards, porn, gambling, make money online, internet marketing, lose weight, golf.

But that means that there is a huge demand for them. =)

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RetireVerySoon

16 years ago

Definately porn and making money online along with travel and weightloss

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16 years ago

I'd say:
Real estate
Automobiles
Insurance
Finance
Hosting

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celente

16 years ago

porn whats that?

I reckon marketing, its everywhere!

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rapidscc 16 years ago

I tried to use wordtracker but you will have to signup now to use their service.

Is there an alternative?
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- sparrow 16 years ago
  
  Free Keyword Suggestion Tool From Wordtracker
  
  or you can use
  
  https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
  
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  Originally Posted by rapidscc
  
  I tried to use wordtracker but you will have to signup now to use their service.
  
  Is there an alternative?
  
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lcombs

16 years ago

The most competitive niches are meaningless unless you already have a big list in that market.

What you need to look at is long-tail keywords.

Look for keywords that have at least 1500 searches P/M with less than 1,000,000 competeing.

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Clark

16 years ago

Aren't all of those markets listed in this thread mainstream markets and not niche markets?

I thought a niche market addresses what the maintream market overlooked by differentiating themselves through careful segmentation of the maintream market to address the specialized needs of the customers within it.

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cloudchaser22

16 years ago

Cool, I've gotten response from both parties. I guess the main advice is that the "top 5" competition niches like "internet marketing" and "porn" is very competitive so newer beginners shouldn't enter it... while there's also a better opportunity going into a niche that there is barely any competition in?

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Clark

16 years ago

Originally Posted by cloudchaser22

Cool, I've gotten response from both parties. I guess the main advice is that the "top 5" competition niches like "internet marketing" and "porn" is very competitive so newer beginners shouldn't enter it... while there's also a better opportunity going into a niche that there is barely any competition in?

Not exactly.

Where there is competition, there are buyers.

No competition; then stop for a moment and scratch your head and do a test of that market instead of going all out before you dive in and potentially go broke.

You can become a player in any competitive market regardless of your current marketing skill set... just be creative about your marketing strategies and watch your marketing spend in relation to your ROI.

I good indicator of a strong competitive market with hungry buyers is by the sheer number of active Adwords advertisers.

Competition means you've landed in a pond with many fish and also, many fishing poles... don't be afraid of it 'cause that's where you want to be fishing... and not in the dead sea.

Go where the hungry fish are and you'll catch a few hook, line and sinker!

Check out this thread which goes further in detail to what I'm saying http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ooks-suck.html

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naruq 16 years ago

a)Making Money B)Health/Nutrition c)Weight Loss/Diet d)Dating E)Marketing
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Deepak Raj

16 years ago

Sex
Health
Fitness
Money
Law of Attraction (the next big thing)

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JAIDEEP2959 16 years ago

1)Sex
2)Dating
3)Forex
4)Diet & fitness
5)Internet Marketing
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tommyp

16 years ago

Wow, Ed. Some of the ones I thought would be the most searched for are actually beat by many that I thought would be below them.

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neddag 16 years ago

I would expect the dog niche to be somewhere in the top 10 or so.

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Bob Monie

16 years ago

A good way to guage the competition is to look at ppc cost and top paying keywords with adsense.

Obviously the more they are paying the more competitive the niche is.
but then again, you have to look at the profit the people get from your business when paying for clicks.

Adsense Payout per click

$69.1 mesothelioma treatment options
$65.85 personal injury lawyer michigan
$62.59 student loans consolidation
$59.44 online car insurance quotes
$59.39 arizona dui lawyer

So it does depend how you look at the competition.

Ed's list is one way to look at it but thats just a list of how many websites mention software etc etc.

Alot of niches would have more competition for the top spots in google serps than software.

I dont even think IM would make it in the top 5 for competition.

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