Burn the Ships & Take the Island...Or...Get a Job?

What the heck? Tom, I've read the above twice. The OP has been extremely successful, and as with any real entrepreneur, had his failures. His #3 was being facetious, as he is not going there no matter what because he would hate it.

Why are you so being so derogatory? Aren't you supposed to be a coach? Where's the enthusiasm? Where's the get up and go and rah! rah! that makes someone on the fence want to grab opportunity and run with it?
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Art, as you already noted, Daniel is point on. Sell your stuff, keep as much of the money in your pocket as possible - you don't need a fortune to get started online, a couple hundred will do nicely to start - and follow your vision while you fling pizzas.

Make sure your plan is flexible, and whatever you do, DON'T SMACK YOURSELF IF YOU MISS A DAY. It's your vision, your business, your everything, screw everyone else for now. Do your homework, ask questions, don't worry about impressing anybody.

No, really. If you build a solid foundation and tweak and tweak until you start making sales, then step and repeat, you will earn all the respect you are looking for. That's really all there is to it.

Oh, and stay light-hearted and above all, learn to laugh at your OH S...T! moments. I mean it -- laugh out loud and giggle. It sure as hell helps when you have to start all over again.

-- Annie

PS: Sorry about your wife's ACL. Perhaps she can cover that aspect of the business? Don't you think? Nudge, nudge? I mean, dude - that's where all the traffic is.

This is what I need... honest feedback!

To answer your first question, I have not exactly failed at the last two businesses I explored, and I'll express my faults, and my finding in those explorations.

First, I keep trying to find the horse I feel off of some years ago. I had built a reputation on honesty, good work ethics, and independent disciplines required to work without supervision, or in a team environment, or with a boss or babysitter.

When, the economy plummeted, I lost big, and fast. The business "dried up" - I was lost, and my trusted steed...gone! As were most of my clients, contractors, and the demand I once served.

In short, i made a decision to try new things, explore new paths. That's how I got here actually, seeking new opportunities.

In short, the last 2 businesses didn't fail, one is both lucrative, seasonal, and too unpredictable as it centers upon elements beyond my control, such as weather, mother nature, temperature and conditions. When it's good, it's really good. But, it is labor, time, and financially intensive... not a risk I care to wager on.

The second, was my attempt to "stick with what I know" - only doing so, I am at the mercy of a market that has systematically suffered since the whole recession thing hit. It hit me earlier than most in 2004, as I was in a luxury trade (swimming pools, fountains, spa's, hot tubs, waterfall's, etc..)

I have gone back, or tried to reestablish myself in that market. Only now, the vast majority prefer "in-house" hourly or salary workers who wear their T-shirt, show up early, work hard, go home. I can do that.

However, having tasted 20 years of experience, reading blueprints, writing proposals, owning and operating heavy equipment, and knowing the trade inside and out... $10 - $20 becomes insulting, even though that's always been the "in-house" pay scale.

I didn't fail for lack of discipline, or ability, skills, knowledge, desire, or any of those... I failed to "connect" with those whom I had built my reputation, for when I returned, most of those business owners, like myself... had took a long hiatus, and with it went my reputation.

I am a firm believer; it's not always about what you know...it's who you know, and my tribe, my community, my people were GONE!

This new breed of business owners are not lacking business intelligence, they lack clarity and vision, and seem to all possess this "I am Your God" mentality, and if you don't serve me for scraps...100 others will.

Hence, when I state; "I am not desperate... I am desperate, not for money...but rather, to find like minded people who see business as an opportunity for all parties to grow. The business owner, the worker (like me), and end user; the customer.

Maybe, I've gone blind, deaf, or dumb... yet, in my old industry, it no longer seems to exist. Add to that to make $100k - $125k in annual billing, I had a minimum of $30k - $50k going back into equipment, transportation, tools, ins, licensing, etc... when I fell off the horse, my $100k in tools, equip, and operations couldn't substantiate itself.

Now, having the knowledge, and lacking the $50k - $100k to replace those losses (let alone the $500k in personal assets lost to boot) I've tried to "do what I've always done" - to no avail.

Recently, I did some renovation work for a local contractor, a friend, and renovated 2 bathrooms complete "tear-out" and rebuild (i.e. walls, plumbing, framing, tile, fixtures, start- finish.)

It was supposed to be 2 tile jobs... but his crew failed to show up, get the work done, so I did it all. My mistake, knowing it was a min. of $3k in labor, left the "verbal contract" open based on; "Yeah, I'll make sure your taken care off, just get it done for me."

After 2 weeks, unsupervised, I completed the tasks asked of me. I the waited 6 weeks for payment, and would've settled for any respectable offering - even if that meant $15 -$18 per hour - but, this clown made excuses for 6 weeks... not paying me, despite the fact; I used my truck, my tools, my skills, and coordinated everything with the realtor who was "paying for the job".

Long story short, I wound up being paid $800 for 120 hours of work, on a 1099, using my tools, my truck, my skills.

Did I drop the ball "trusting he would take care of me" - yes, I did!

Did we ever do business in writing, no, we did not. He too salted the wound even more... his wife got a $4k 'tummy tuck' (and still looks like shit btw) and he had a merry vacation to Gaylord Palms Orlando at $350+ per night with his wife and kid.

I have no problem with either, other than today's mentality of many business owners has, nor holds any accountability for their actions.

This took place just before Thanksgiving, as I finished the job with one mission in mind; serve the family, good eats, give grace, be humble, etc...

Not only did Thanksgiving get cancelled, I fought to make sense of the reason; someone I respected, and never had an issue with working for suddenly "raped me". I didn't get paid. I received $300 2 days after Thanksgiving, and the other $500 on New Years Eve after I threatened a lien, and to "Beat his ass on his door step!"

I find one more thing even more putrid than his ill-regarded decision to seek a quick buck, two actially;

1.) The law protects these idiots. If I beat his ass, I go to jail, solves nothing. If I want my money, I have to file a lien, and hope the property owner intends to sell, or it sit idle for years, decades, without being satisfied.

Yet, if you float a check to Publix to feed your kids, and it is in excess of I believe; $100 - you can be repromanded, and face felony fraud charges, if not made good in 14 days.

2.) For all the money in the world, I could not comprehend what motive (other than greed and stupidity) this so-called friend chose to exercise this behavior. Maybe because he was on drugs (IDK) it's possible. Maybe, his wife was screwing someone else (IDK) also possible. Maybe, he knows; 100 other poor saps will line up, bend over, assume the position, and fill the void I left behind when he screwed me (IDK).

I did not fail, as Edison so boldly puts it, I seemingly am in the long enduring process of finding the right people, with the right mind, and the right focus to "do business" as I believe business should be conducted: "Beneficial to the whole".

Now, if I failed in the sense that I have no large sums of money, "YES" - I am aware my prior spending, investments, risks, did not pan out...largely due to being "Blind" to what a government is willing to do - to cover their mistakes, and get paid while doing it.

I did not think, at 35 years old - I'd be so grateful to have lost everything, yet, I am.

I DON'T FAIL... PEOPLE DO!

Though, I will still kindly tip my hat and congratulate those who seek ill-gains, for the other option certainly will not provide for my wife, children, or freedom.

Yes, I am a bit bitter, rightfully so... I've never lied, stolen, or cheated in my life! Not on my wife of 25 years, not on my family, and not without just provocation, as in, I have balanced the books on occasion with the mindset, "payback's are a bitch" - However, in most cases as with the example above; "I turned the other cheek" as Kenny Roger's says in his song; "The Coward of the County" - for had it been any more personal, I wouldn't be free today.

I seek no pity, no sympathy or forgiveness. What I seek is to "work" with like-minded people, and though it pains me to say it; "I almost believe; they are far and few between" - Hence, my caution entering any new business, especially, as I have the time, energy, and mind to succeed...I cannot do it alone.

Thus, my only concern with the 60-day deadline, is can I reach my audience, provide for their needs, and start reaching out to the right people to sustain it?

Sorry for the rant... I blame me, for ever trusting others, and now, the hard part is believing; "I ever will again" - for the trusted steed which I once secured in the satbles of my mind...was torched by others without merit, provocation, or any reason I can conclude; than over money!

So be it... there's my ONLY problem.

It's not failure I fear... it's PEOPLE!

Yet, I am both passionate and full of love for humanity, and being a solution...not the problem!

Right now... I feel lost. Not depressed, deprived, or incapable of getting a job or building a powerful blog, communications platform, or even an entire publications network (which is my bigger vision)... I have forgiven all who attempted to bury me... and I'm not dead yet!

But, I cannot help to tread with caution as I prepare to reach out to those I both intend to help, and those who may help me, respectively.

I tried alcohol, drugs, church...everything but a shrink...lol, nothing other than success will do!

TLDR... I understand, for those of you skimming, trolling, or just looking for one sentence responses to flash your "siggy" - I get it, it's all about the money right?

Please please please, don't buy this books.

To me this guys are all snake oil salesmen.

Think about it. Why would anybody reveal their secret sauce? Don't tell me that by providing valuable information they make money. If i had some secret on how to make money online i would stll prefer to use it untill is over and then i would reveal my secret. So probably this people are doing it because their methods don't work anymore, or maybe bacause they actaully make more money with the book rather than with their "methods".

The information is out there and is free.

I stopped watching the video when he started to say the "i wasn't making any money because i didn't take any action" bs. SO basically at around 24 secs...

Btw do we have some proof this guy actually made the money he is saying?

The only guys i am trusting a bit with this kind of stuff are Neil Patel, Gary Vaynerchuk and a couple of more guys but this one i really don't trust. I could be wrong...

That is GREAT!

I've always loved Eric and his style... :-)

Spot on! Even Frank Kern said something very similar in this legendary video....

Kern's Commandments....

Thou shalt NOT f*$k around
Thou shalt NOT be a pu*@y....

5 to 10 years?!? Are you kidding? I would die of old age before making any money!

If a business don't make good money within the first 2 years then is a hobby! Quote from Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful.

I'm sorry, but this is a terrible paradigm that keeps SO many people from succeeding. There is absolutely NOTHING that says it takes this long to start a business. There are so many people who have started up online businesses within 30 days with little money in pocket. People who say things like this are the ones who will also say that those people just go lucky. NO. They persevered. They got curious about how to do it. They started asking the right questions and then listened for the answer.


To not stress yourself out about paying bills, you can get a job. However, you must ask yourself, "What would I LOVE?" You've got to have a white-hot burning desire to achieve your dream. Don't confuse temporary defeat with failure. Just because you have experienced temporary defeat in the past with IM, does not mean you cannot be successful with it. Thomas Edison failed over 10,000 times creating the incandescent light bulb and only had 3 months of education.


It is all a matter of perspective and drive. You've got to what you can with what you have from where you are. There is an answer to everything. You've just go to ask the right questions.


I HIGHLY recommend 2 books - Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill and The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace Wattles. Work on shifting your paradigms. Don't look to your conditions to determine what you can have and do.

Daniel sorry to say but you are not obeying one of the 2 commendments...ehhehe. Eveytime i log in you are here on the forum ehehhe

Just kidding, i want you to be here. You have good info

Don't worry too much about that, he is going to come back and try to sell you something later on... I bet, he sent you already several emails...
This is just motivational placebo stuff... They throw in couple on practical notions, which i don't find useful most of the times btw, just common knowledge you can find on this forum for free as well (actually this forum is the best option to learn and is free), every 10/20 pages not to annoy you too much. The information contained in this books, online courses is just so vague and meaningless.

If you take confort from this things and you can motivate yoursef by reading them, then this is another story... I just can't and that's why i don't waste my time on this ebooks, online courses... But you won't find any practical way to make money in this things.

Correct me if i am wrong. You are at page 60. Can you post something useful or practical you have found in his book?

That is interesting because your view of that sort of work is so different from what I heard from my brother a few weeks ago. He loves it - says he works with "the nicest people" and the few demanding clients he's had make for some good (and funny) stories.

He enjoys making a room or a home work or look better and takes pride in craftsmanship - but that's after years of desk and office work so it may be the change that appeals.

Your different reaction to that is why you must find what appeals to YOU - what gives YOU that sense of accomplishment and keeps you interested and involved.

Hey Art,
It may sound like going back to a full time job may seem most prudent. Not saying IM is something to totally write off. But at this juncture it may be good to just do that. There is always a way and time to pursue IM on the backburner and do it in your off time


- Robert Andrew

This is what you have to solve before you go anywhere. You have graphics...you talk about a free book and pre-screening and back-end. You say there's a plan....it sounds good. YOu've been think and you are planning and detailing....but...

That's part of the problem - because you've had the domain for a while...and there is NO site. There is no "perfect" graphic/product/site/book - but what is on your computer is worthless if you don't put it online!

I would bet what you have so far for that particular site is better than the sig links of many of those offering you advice. BUT - you have to put it out there!

Art -

Please don't take this the wrong way.

You are motivated by this thread and what you've watched on videos - and that's great.

You've had a chest beating Warrior-style emotional moment and feel focused and ready to break down the walls.

Great.

Now get to work - nitty gritty time.

If I were you, I will take the job while establishing my profitable online business. The more streams of income we get, the better.

I would only quit my job when my online business cashflow is big enough to cover my family needs and luxuries.

You mentioned that your problem is with PEOPLE, I would say your problem is how you see people. I think you have to check your mindset about people.

You might want to consider this...
I came across one business owner who changed his mindset about people and became a key to his success. What he did was to place a sticker in his car's dashboard that says, "People are Good, Business is Great and Life is Terrific" and he kept believing that and it turned out to be true in his business.

If you have not made your mind up, talk to the Pizza Shop tell him you can start in 2 weeks. Turn off the Warrior Forum and see if you can put something out there in that time period. If not take the Pizza job and take time to get something together. It will take a lot of pressure off you and your wife.

Hate to say this but everybody likes to think burn the ships and take the Island. What if you can't reach the Island. Are you prepare everyday to work at home and put stuff out there. It's like any job it has to get done.

It is way to easy to sit at home by a computer, drink coffee and pass the day by looking at the Warrior Forum, dreaming about things, reading e-mails or books, watching videos not doing anything.

Here is a quote from a book "Some people rather spend time becoming something, than actually doing something." Writing is fine but if you do not put it out there you are just dreaming. It is okay if you don't burn the boats but float it to shore and start slowly. If a storm approaches you can turn around and head home for another day.

Good luck what ever you do !

Now if I told someone I was on the worlds greatest marketing forum and the guy did not get the pizza delivery gig someone may look at me crazy but I would say well you had to be there. for the whole story

The best post in this thread.

I'd take this one step further and say he's probably more afraid of success. It's not uncommon. People fear the unknown, they fear change, they fear rejection, they fear loss - and "suddenly" succeeding brings the unknown, change, rejection (family, old friends), loss (again - family, old friends).

And perhaps they also fear the scrutiny of those who would simply swipe at you and call you a snake oil salesman because they don't believe in what you are doing

It happens. You just have to not take things so seriously (not referring you Kurt...)

Well the thing about jobs is that they are not secure.

To be a Coach or are you asking about paying a Coach to help you in this area ??

Starting costs nothing.

In fact, in 30 days using only FREE tools, I've shown a young Warrior how to make over 1,000 bux, and that by offering a small report via his WF sig file.

And, here...a FREE gift to help you get started too:

http://www.gjabiz.com/freeze.pdf

Use the tools, or find more current and/or updated versions and eliminate all excuses for not getting started. Takes effort, NOT money!

gjabiz

There were so many great points brought here that I'll just say; "You are absolutely right about the longs hours are the only way out" - and I am prepared to put the time in, it would be easier if I could get my other half moving too.

Also, your take on how employers "see self-employed" people as "unemployed" - definitely a vision that gets painted into the minds of those who've never owned or operated a business before, and for the ones that do understand it, it can be even worse, as was so with my last employer. I think he saw me as possible competition. It's not like you can say; "I'm just here until my other business takes off." - they damn sure don't want to here that!

I appreciate your contributions, I've had a couple conversations with people since this began, and while it is leaving me to question some of my weaknesses, it too has exposed quite a few strengths and possible building blocks I can use to move forward..

You often forget all the things you know how to do, when the ceiling seems to shrinking. Add to that how time starts flying by, and it definitely makes you think - "What's the best make use of all that was left behind?'

Obviously, writing on subject matter that I've had experience with is one way to do it, and it's probably a good starting point. That and a job for now.

Thanks,

- Art

JF... inspiring man, as I can surely relate!

Only now, I don't exactly have a lot of paying gigs where my van and tools seem to fetch their true worth, as it seems unless I am working for myself in that field, the money just isn't enough to support the family bro.

People here expect you to show up with your own tools, truck (or van) a driver's license, and insurance, phone, etc.. yet they want to pay people between $12 - $15 an hour, and it just doesn't allow me to even remotely enjoy renovating houses, pools, or the likes.

I am an all around excellent plumber by trade, and also know a great deal about windows and doors, knock-down finishes and textures, electrical, flooring (i.e. tile, laminate, etc..) as well as all the basic handyman stuff. My only weakness is A/C as I am not HVAC certified, which most maintenance positions require.

However, I will never rule out having to "fall back" on those skills, although I am ready to move on and be done with it, unless it's a pet project, or something I can be respected for doing. I'm down here in Florida by Lake Okeechobee, and well.. if you've ever been here, it's a nice place to fish, and maybe retire... not so much for finding decent paying gigs.

Thanks JF,

Art

Thanks Matthew!

I'm in that place now, and sadly... I think this is where my true creativity lives, when it's all or nothing, and some of my best works (writings & drawings) have always come from when I was either near down & out, or was down & out.

I guess, many artists, creative people, musicians and the likes often resonate so well with their respective audiences, because they too know what it 'was' like trying to get back up!

At least, a great deal of the music I listen to seems to be 'under that influence'.

Now I just need to find tune my instrument (my mind) and break free from any and/or all that stands between me and the goal. If I fail, it will not be for a lack of effort, that I do know.

I cannot predict "how long" something can take to see results pertaining to my online efforts, but I can say that I am not a big fan of oodles of noodles, or microwave dinners, and that seems to be at the top of the food pallet momentarily, as it happens.

Thanks,

Art

PS - Although I live in Florida, as a kid I grew up in Rhode Island, and there were a lot of Ianotti's in the small town I grew up in. Though it's been awhile since I've been home, it was mostly Italians and Irish where I grew up, you learn fast, or your got you ass beat!

Granted I know exactly what you mean...

For shits and giggles, let just say my life's chief aim was to be a philanthropist, don't suppose many would line up to buy what I am selling, if I first don't come to 'recognize and accept' that I; like millions (*if not billions of people) tend to spend our time doing the 'exacting opposite' of doing what makes us happy- a bit ironic, don't ya think?

I certainly don't seek sympathy, as I chose my path, as will others.

The hard part is waking up, and realizing, time lost cannot be regained, and I damn sure haven't been feeding my brain with all this IM related marketing strategies to see it go to waste scrubbing fryers at BK.

Sure, I could 'give in' (as I have in the past) and even still, I cannot imagine; The How or the Why? - I would want to bear the name tag, work for nothing, eat shit, and "Have it my way" - no offense to BK or anyone who works there, just a metaphor I use frequently.

Point being, in order to do what makes me happy...will require 7-10 figures!

The biggest part being, it's not greed that drives me, it's philanthropy... to be able to give freely, as opposed to living in fear; living on minimum wages, eating the dog food... and blindly accepting that I actually liked it, for it gave me a reason & a purpose to rise above and overcome it!

Thanks Man, I needed a good laugh.

I'll connect with you soon, as I am working on something now that 'keeps growing' as I am building it, and is requiring less being here, and more focus to put it all together. When time permits, I'll fire up my Skype account, and hit you up in a pm.

Thanks,

Art

Note sure why, but I cannot see the image you posted... just a yellow strip reading; "this post contains one image" ???

More in alignment with your question, I have failed at tens of 1000's of things in my life from being a better father, being the perfect husband, becoming a better writer, being an alcoholic and drug addict (years ago), and you name it; I've probably found a way to tear it down... in order to learn "how to rebuild it!"

However, I've never stopped the relentless pursuit towards personal development and financial abundance, regardless if "the light bulb exploded" or "stayed lit for awhile to light my way".

Truth is; I never meant to imply; "I'd hit my goals in 60 days" - as opposed to "break free" from the "old routines" and "old habits" of running back to that which is safe, secure, and familiar to me... like construction or taking a job.

I am at a point in my life, where I know; it's do or die time. I value what time I have remaining. I value other people's time, and understand the challenges that I, and millions of others face... in breaking their routines, for if you look closely... most the people here cling to money like Linus clings-on to his blue blanket in The Peanuts cartoon... unable to let go of what security they already possess.

In my mind, nothing I possess is more valuable than setting an example for others, and I believe; that roots deep in every entrepreneurial minded person I've ever met, studied, or aspire to become... which is a never ending, unrelenting, curse from which I suffer... for I do not want what they have - rather to understand "How they think, function, operate, process, and create a system that works... almost flawlessly!"

I often mock the teacher from Charlie Brown; "Want, want, want... want, want, want... want, want, want...WAH!"

I hear what people want... I see it. I know, and yet struggle to accept in order to give them what they want, it'll require me to "step outside" the introvert I've become, and put my ass out there... and stand accountable (to a degree) for their overall experience in exploring my philosophy, my view, my way of coping and dealing with all the ignorance that intrudes upon our lives.

I'm in the process now... of releasing something ( a test product - free report) that has the potential to blow people's f..cking minds... and yet, I am struggling to accept if it will "ever be good enough?"

You see, I am not blind... I'm a visionary, an artist, and a creator, who respects that long term success requires values much greater than money - in order to sustain a life of privilege and abundance.

While I deprived myself for years of such abundance... it was an intense study conducted over 12 years of painstaking compromise, so that when I do unleash this beast upon the world (my philosophy and overall findings) and add to it a a time tested proven-blueprint... not only will I be FREE... it'll be by setting others FREE that forges the path of success.

Maybe I am preparing for the haters. Maybe it's preparation for the money that will follow. Maybe it's just a foolish dream, and I'll bury my head in the sand, hide my gift (as I've been doing" and die a selfish lonely death... never leaving anything behind for the next?)

Maybe... I failed on purpose... seeking to truly understand; what the f..k makes 98% of people so timid, scared, beat-down and broken... so, I could conjure up a solution to a HUGE f'ing problem people face daily!

Maybe I hate the existing system. Maybe I am fed up with all the ignorant BS that festers, lingers, and spoils the joy and beauty this world offers, and litters the path!

Maybe I understand "How our perceptions shift from light to dark, from dream to nightmare, and from good to evil".

Maybe... I am already there, and the vision in my mind is TRUE for I've yet to be able to break it down, although I am trying to find it's weakness, something FALSE, and have yet to succeed!

Maybe, I awakened a sleeping giant... and can't find a weapon big enough to beat that f..cker back into submission, so I can continue on in my self-created misery!

I'll tell you why I said that I only needed 60 days... because "IF" I strap on my balls, anyone who gets on-board and stands beside me (not in front, not in back, above or below) - but, anyone who chooses to accept my invitation when I do release what's inside of me... had better strap on their big boy (or big girl) panties, and prepare for one hell of a ride... cause I am not your typical failure!

The hard part... is being the "real me" and should I take that approach, a good portion of my audience will run like the dickens... because I will spit fire, curse, and deliver a brutal truth... I'm, not so sure most people will want to hear, or be able to recognize, accept, and truly appreciate the solution, as most refuse to accept the problem!!!

Maybe, I'm not seeking flattery or playing such a weak hand that I'll use flattery to sell fat asses a weight loss solution!

Guess the only way to know... is push send! - Now, if only I could get out of my own way....

Peace!

-Art

Thanks flipper!

Any who, I got off on a little rant as I understand motorkitty's pains and sufferings... I empathize for the working class, and get aggravated when people just assume that I am suggesting I'll make 7-10 figures - as I made one reference to What philanthropy means to me.. and the long-tern vision I've always had.

There too, when I run out of "material possessions" to sell... (aside maybe the car and my ass) - I will put on my happy Pinocchio suit... and return to dance on a string if need be... maybe the punishment I've already endured isn't enough, because I haven't blown my back out yet... or let my false sense of security rest in living in a rented home...

So... in that 'light' - I never said anything pertaining to NOT working... that's been said by everyone else... who relies on that blue blanket.

If I have to, and I AM fighting it right now... I could provide enough services online, probably from the Warrior for Hire thread alone, and equal what the average paycheck offers...and still be on a laptop...living the dream.

Lastly, it pains me... the only way I see breaking into any market is not as an employee - it's somewhere near the middle where I left off, for I've already held those rungs... but, to write a book, build a responsive following, and nurture, grow, and cultivate a mind share beneficial to others and myself, definitely takes precedence over the 2 aforementioned choices.

...And yes, I do believe, I will get my ass kicked most of the time as Frank Kern mentioned in his video... but those "oil wells" exist, and I aim to tap into them!

All the Best,

Art

Until yesterday, I really haven't spent more than an hour or so here, and only do so when taking breaks from the work I am doing.

You're right, I should be able to put a site up with all the basics in a few days, maybe a week. Taking into consideration what you've said as it does hit hard, you have to remember, I've never completed this much in 15 days prior, as it includes researching a ton of content, writing a lot more than I do here, and I'll be the first to tell you "tech stuff" is not my strength, so getting the look and feel that I want... not only is still lacking, it takes me a long time to compile the site, color schemes, typography, etc...

I understand, when you've built 100 landing pages, created 100 products, managed 100 lists, and have your "process" fine-tuned... yeah, 1-2 days to do what I've done is possible.

Meanwhile, sometimes the tortoise wins the race... I really am not "trying to rush" on the basis I need money. It's actually, effecting my work (naturally) due to the underlying stress of that fact, but, I what's in my mind is not a get rich quick scheme, or just a 'turn-key' - here it is, slap some affiliates links on it, and drive a bunch of traffic. It's more of a "How can I grow this for years... type of mindset I am in... and money cannot force that process...

I appreciate it, and you're right... I should be able to create a site with some basic offering in 2-5 days... in time, with practice, I will.

Thanks!

Art

(15mins and 4 sips of coffee gone... not going to be here much today!)