Best lessons you learned in IM?

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Mine has to be the following:

You are not your list. You can hate a particular product/method and yet discover your network eats it up.

You should be YOU. Never try to imitate others. Never listen when people say something won't work if you feel it has promise - try it yourself and see the results... first hand.

People like buying but not doing. It's scary for bunches of folk to take that first step... so they stay within the comfort boundaries of buying the dream without implementing the ideas.

How 'bout you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    Oh you are on fire with this one. I love all 3 of those. Keep them coming!

    I learned when site flipping ESCROW GOOD.

    Prepare for success. From the standpoint make sure you can deliver as promised to everyone in timely fashion.

    Earning a large sum of money at once is not PARTY TIME. IT'S REINVESTMENT TIME.
    (and then a little partying.)

    All sexy images of women on the Internet are old men wearing thongs and high heels.

    Live events are worth it.

    Energy drinks are not your friend.

    Do not ever forget the people that had your back when you needed them.

    Like you mentioned...ask people what they want do not guess.

    Keep a clean desk and shower like you are expecting company even if you are not.

    Get outside and live.

    Help a struggling marketer when ever you can.

    To be continued...
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    • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
      Mine are:

      Building a business online requires just as much effort as building a "brick and mortar" business. (Save for lower barrier to entry and infrastructure costs.)

      Providing value is good but if you fail to communicate why people need your product they still might not buy - selling or at least pre-selling isn't something you should ignore.

      Generating traffic is all about stepping in the midst of where your audience hangs out online while finding a way to make them choose to visit your site.


      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      All sexy images of women on the Internet are old men wearing thongs and high heels.
      The wording of this leaves me quite disturbed - "old men wearing thongs".


      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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        Originally Posted by danieldesai View Post

        Mine are:

        Building a business online requires just as much effort as building a "brick and mortar" business. (Save for lower barrier to entry and infrastructure costs.)

        Providing value is good but if you fail to communicate why people need your product they still might not buy - selling or at least pre-selling isn't something you should ignore.

        Generating traffic is all about stepping in the midst of where your audience hangs out online while finding a way to make them choose to visit your site.




        The wording of this leaves me quite disturbed - "old men wearing thongs".


        Regards,
        Daniel

        Hey Daniel,

        I am teasing that "hot sexy images" get huge followings online its just a fact but make no mistake we probably do not come anywhere close to the reality of what is behind these Avatars we see everyday. Just my humble opinion.

        Sorry for the visual.but I always tell myself that so I never get sucked in.
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        • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
          Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

          Hey Daniel,

          I am teasing that "hot sexy images" get huge followings online its just a fact but make no mistake we probably do not come anywhere close to the reality of what is behind these Avatars we see everyday. Just my humble opinion. Sorry for the visual.but I always tell myself that so I never get sucked in.
          Haha, I know what you meant.

          But my mind saw an opportunity and I took it to make a witty statement.

          Oh, I forgot to add - "You should be YOU" is something I would have also added, had you not shared it already, Barb.

          Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author katrim
    I'll give you somehow a cliché answer but it's something I truly believe in when it comes to the IM lifestyle:

    Eat (healthy) - Pray (that your squeeze page/followup/sales page/ad converting, if not, kill it ) - Love (every moment of the ride, you have the freedom to act and change things).

    So much you can do every step of the way, so much to improve and fix.

    And of course, never forget that behind all the numbers, names and emails in your list there are people like you and me.

    And connected with this cluster f**k-up I did a while ago, ALWAYS triple check and email before sending a broadcast to 5,000 people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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      Originally Posted by katrim View Post


      And of course, never forget that behind all the numbers, names and emails in your list there are people like you and me.
      Yep and our friendly competition. But I just call them future possible JVs.
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  • Profile picture of the author jootawan
    my only regret after 10 years of IM is

    - not building a damn list ...

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  • Profile picture of the author yehova
    what i learned over these years

    if you fail

    then













    it is your OWN VAULT !!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Quede
      Originally Posted by yehova View Post

      what i learned over these years

      if you fail

      then













      it is your OWN VAULT !!!


      It is not nobody's vault!

      The best (worst?) lesson I learned in marketing is that some people are just rotten to the core. Behind every smile and nice word, there can be some ugly truth.

      See what I just did?
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    1. Trust No One But Your Self.
    2. Do The Math, Don't Feel It.
    3. No Faith Without Brain.

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  • Profile picture of the author trobo
    Find out what your market is hungry for, and find a way to give it to them. Look at the products already out there attempting to address their wants/needs, and try to make your product 10x better.

    Never assume you know what's best for your customers right off the bat - because you don't.
    Instead - they will let you know if you will only ask how you can help them. Listen and pay attention.

    It's not about you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
    Originally Posted by barbling View Post

    Mine has to be the following:

    You are not your list. You can hate a particular product/method and yet discover your network eats it up.

    You should be YOU. Never try to imitate others. Never listen when people say something won't work if you feel it has promise - try it yourself and see the results... first hand.

    People like buying but not doing. It's scary for bunches of folk to take that first step... so they stay within the comfort boundaries of buying the dream without implementing the ideas.

    How 'bout you?
    Generally, the best lesson I have learned with IM is learning how to Sell. So precious that I can even create a create salescopy for my own products without the need to hire a copywriter.
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  • Profile picture of the author assadok
    if you do business, u get 9/10 piece of cake

    if you work a normal work, 1/10 peice of cake

    but, hence 9/10 of income comes from business

    the EFFORT MUST ALSO 9/10

    the risk and everything ... 9/10
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  • Profile picture of the author umeysh
    Before joining any course online or any training or mastermind courses, must find out about that stuff on the internet first, as mostly those all trainings are already availbale for free on the internet, in one way or two, there are someone alwyas those have shared there knowledge already on the net. And stay away from fake people, before paying to them research on the net about that training coures, this will save your lot of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    #2 for me Barb.

    Being me has been fun, rewarding, enjoyable, and distanced me from folks who try to copy. Went down the copy cat road for years. Was not fun. Like, not fun at all. Cause when you imitate you can't stand out and shine and that's not the reason you're here anyway. You're here to be you, to shine, to be your authentic self and yes you'll rock it out in IM if you are simply being you.

    Ditto on 1 too. We are so much more than we believe, related to false beliefs. What annoyed me or what I felt did not work, works just fine. Pop ups. List building. Etc, etc, etc, and, etc

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  • Profile picture of the author Hunter MI
    I create a lot of landing pages and PPC campaigns and something that takes a while to get used to is writing to the visitor. Don't write about you, write about how you will benefit them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdudley
    I've learned that the vast majority of the people that concume mmo info do absolutely nothing with it. They'll buy course after course and book after book but take no action. It's almost as if they want the feeling of hope that they CAN do it as opposed to the feeling of accomplishment that they DID do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MValmont
    To Choose your Method carefully.

    When I started, I wrote a small ebook, paid someone to build a website, to write a salespage, someone for SEO, for graphics etc....Cost me like $1000.

    At the end I was making like $100 per month which is really not good.

    I decided to put my ebook on Kindle and I ended up making AS MUCH as on my website, but without the website, the sales page, the SEO and the graphics.

    I realized that this method (Kindle) was WAY SUPERIOR. I ended up publishing ( I don't write the books myself, I outsource everything) over 100 books, and I'm glad I did it.


    That's the biggest lesson for me : To pick the right method. They are not all created equal...

    Blogging takes forever before you start making money....You need to invest A LOT of your time and energy before you start getting traffic and convert that traffic into sales, which means you will need to keep your job AND work on your blog at the same time.

    Affiliate marketing, same thing, but faster. Just don't expect to make a lot of sales within like one month. You need a LIST, or PAY for advertisement. In both cases, you will either have to wait and work a long time before you make money, or you will need to invest a lot of money upfront and you will fail a lot at first ( paid advertising).

    Internet marketing is really easy: You offer value, build a relationship with these people, they trust you, they buy your products or products of other people, and that's pretty much it.

    Keep in mind however, not all the methods are created equals. In my opinion, Kindle Publishing is the easiest and fastest way to make money online by far.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harry B
      Originally Posted by MValmont View Post

      To Choose your Method carefully.

      When I started, I wrote a small ebook, paid someone to build a website, to write a salespage, someone for SEO, for graphics etc....Cost me like $1000.

      At the end I was making like $100 per month which is really not good.

      I decided to put my ebook on Kindle and I ended up making AS MUCH as on my website, but without the website, the sales page, the SEO and the graphics.

      I realized that this method (Kindle) was WAY SUPERIOR. I ended up publishing ( I don't write the books myself, I outsource everything) over 100 books, and I'm glad I did it.


      That's the biggest lesson for me : To pick the right method. They are not all created equal...

      Blogging takes forever before you start making money....You need to invest A LOT of your time and energy before you start getting traffic and convert that traffic into sales, which means you will need to keep your job AND work on your blog at the same time.

      Affiliate marketing, same thing, but faster. Just don't expect to make a lot of sales within like one month. You need a LIST, or PAY for advertisement. In both cases, you will either have to wait and work a long time before you make money, or you will need to invest a lot of money upfront and you will fail a lot at first ( paid advertising).

      Internet marketing is really easy: You offer value, build a relationship with these people, they trust you, they buy your products or products of other people, and that's pretty much it.

      Keep in mind however, not all the methods are created equals. In my opinion, Kindle Publishing is the easiest and fastest way to make money online by far.
      Hi,

      tips on how to outsource the writing of kindle books?
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      • Profile picture of the author MValmont
        Originally Posted by Harry B View Post

        Hi,

        tips on how to outsource the writing of kindle books?

        Click on the links in my signature. If you have more questions PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author masterz
    in addition to all that has been mentioned, PATIENCE is a virtue that can not be over-estimated
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  • Profile picture of the author xnice
    My lessons:
    One method at one time: do not try overload yourself with information and projects, focus one project one time.
    Be patient and don’t get discouraged: it takes time to build the business. I think patience is an important skill for online marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by barbling View Post

    Mine has to be the following:

    You are not your list. You can hate a particular product/method and yet discover your network eats it up.

    You should be YOU. Never try to imitate others. Never listen when people say something won't work if you feel it has promise - try it yourself and see the results... first hand.

    People like buying but not doing. It's scary for bunches of folk to take that first step... so they stay within the comfort boundaries of buying the dream without implementing the ideas.

    How 'bout you?
    Yeah, I think that first one is so important. I remember watching Shark Tank and I think Cuban said he was 'out' because he didn't like the Product and couldn't get behind it, even though it had done millions in sales.

    Of course he is a brilliant businessman and as smart as heck but this was one time I disagreed with him.

    And I see a lot of people who cannot make that emotional disconnect between them and their Market/Product.

    If it is in huge demand you shouldn't be blinded by the fact that you can't necessarily identify with the Niche.

    I think a savvy marketer should be able to be successful either way


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    Originally Posted by barbling View Post

    Mine has to be the following:

    You are not your list. You can hate a particular product/method and yet discover your network eats it up.

    You should be YOU. Never try to imitate others. Never listen when people say something won't work if you feel it has promise - try it yourself and see the results... first hand.

    People like buying but not doing. It's scary for bunches of folk to take that first step... so they stay within the comfort boundaries of buying the dream without implementing the ideas.

    How 'bout you?
    I agree with all of those points.

    Probably the best lessons I learned were:

    1. Build an email list
    2. Be authentic and yourself. Don't be someone you're not.
    3. Take imperfect action. People are too stuck on perfection, and that leads to overwhelm and laziness.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nico Puegher
    The best lesson I learned is to never give up because anything can be achievable.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    The best lesson I have learned is it's about my customers and friends, not me! I don't make money when I like a product, I make money when I help and recommend people a great product that solves their core problem
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  • Profile picture of the author Perplexities
    The best lesson I've learned in IM is to never give up, and to never let the opinions of those who have given up on themselves affect you.
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  • Profile picture of the author assadok
    ny best lesson would be ..to follow your heart and passion

    and not to give up
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    That you need to learn to adapt to any situation or you will find yourself left behind.. (i think this applies to many other industries as well)
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  • Profile picture of the author goyem
    the best lesson i learnt so far is

    focus
    leverage
    make friends

    treat it as a real business and not as a hobby or money scheme
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGMa
    I must say, Barb old girl, you are really rocking with the threads! Not a boring moment. THANK YOU!

    I'd have to say that my biggest lesson was to learn to let go and be myself like I used to.

    For a while there, I allowed myself to be intimidated with how much things have changed, what with all the marketers I never heard of shouting out their plans and tools and systems ... GAH.

    My philosophy has always been to derive enjoyment from making my viewers happy. Keep it simple, be uber helpful, don't ask them to think, just let them enjoy, be happy, and buy. Smiling people buy more stuff.

    Once I settled down and stopped using my head as a bowling ball, I was able to get started on a plan and work on building it every day. No big hurry, just apply persistence.

    - Annie
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by TheGMa View Post

      Once I settled down and stopped using my head as a bowling ball, I was able to get started on a plan and work on building it every day. No big hurry, just apply persistence.

      - Annie
      Yep Annie, if only people would heed this and realize this is NOT a sprint but rather a marathon.

      People want it to happen "yesterday". And it usually just takes longer than that for 95% of the people out there!


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  • Profile picture of the author StephyHarmonIM
    Hi Barb,

    Thanks for making me thing about this one :-) I really hope you don't my me edifying my coach, James Baker. I'll say that investing in coaching is my #1 best purchase ever.

    It took me a few times to find a coach that can work within my means and help me to stay accountable to myself and to their program.

    Thanks James Baker, you're an amazing coach. I'm so close to my first WSO finishing I can taste it.
    I highly recommend James for newbies and seasoned im'ers who want a little push and some quality instruction. IM Income Lab is the best money I ever spent.
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  • Profile picture of the author pronoton
    one thing i leart from IM is :

    you can print money out of thin sky if you wanted to
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by barbling View Post

    Best lessons you learned in IM?
    List size has nothing to deal with the amount of money that you should make. It all depends on the quality of the list. And more importantly... it really does matter if your subscribers are REAL PEOPLE!!
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  • Profile picture of the author caliph
    the list can be

    - tyre kickers

    - buyers list

    throw away tyre kickers as far as we could
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  • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
    Originally Posted by barbling View Post

    How 'bout you?
    Some things you think will work don't.

    Some things you think won't work do.

    When you find the things that work do more of them....

    ....BUT....

    don't necessarily give up on the "Non-working things"

    Nearly everything you do has a cumulative effect.

    There are plenty of things I set up, sites, products, videos and so on that have swung up and down with success sometimes generating good returns and other times just in the doldrums.

    What happens over time is the more you do that can generate income and you still leave in place remarkably all start to work together each producing their bit.

    I'm pretty harsh on myself because I always expect success and even when there is what would be considered huge success by many I'm still not satisfied.

    It is not probably lessons totally related to IM but with Internet use becoming so ingrained in society the lessons come much quicker than before.

    To some learning the lessons of business fast is a good thing but to others it is devastating.

    It is better to fail fast and learn quickly rather than get bled to death by a thousand small cuts.

    Best regards,

    Ozi
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  • Profile picture of the author AboutTrillions
    Not to give up... i recall years ago starting my first blog and wondering why after 5 days i was not getting 5k people to my site and day and why i was not ranked on Google for all my keywords..
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    Be patient and persistent.
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  • Profile picture of the author abdullah osama
    mine are these and this helped me alot to think

    how can i change these visitors into buyers and i did it !

    visitors are people looking to solutions not to buy !!
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