Who is Designing THESE Killer Sites?

Dan C. Rinnert

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff_Gardner

I've also heard possibly Erik Stafford... as well as 10 other names.

His site is in the source code of the Direct Response Marketing site...

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Jeff_Gardner

17 years ago

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Thanks, Guys!

Looks like I'll be contacting Erik.

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Jeff

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disi

17 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff_Gardner

Recently, I've seen some very interesting, eye-catching web designs - and so far, I haven't been able to track down the specific designer or design firm.

Here's one site:

PPC Classroom 2.0 - Secrets of a $2.4 Million PPC Affiliate

Here's another (the offer is closed, but the design looks the same)

Direct Response Marketing

It looks to me like Dylan Jones, but Dylan says "no"

I've also heard possibly Erik Stafford... as well as 10 other names.

Anyone know who is designing these types of sites?

Thanks!

Best,
Jeff Gardner

To be honest I don't think they are killer pages at all...

BTW - do you know guys why all those new sites have now a lot of 'text' written in form of graph file? They do not put simple HTML text but rather images with it like this one:

http://sales.ppcclassroom.com.s3.ama...images/sub.gif

Is it some kind of new trend? It looks better but does it not make SEO(key words harder job?

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JaniG

17 years ago

Originally Posted by disi

To be honest I don't think they are killer pages at all...

BTW - do you know guys why all those new sites have now a lot of 'text' written in form of graph file? They do not put simple HTML text but rather images with it like this one:

http://sales.ppcclassroom.com.s3.ama...images/sub.gif

Is it some kind of new trend? It looks better but does it not make SEO(key words harder job?

they dont care abotu SEO because when they do a BIG LAUNCH ,all traffic comes from JV partners...

they also shut down their site after spots are taken so they are not bothered about SEO

Jani

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Flierboy

17 years ago

I agree, Anik's PPC classroom sites are among the best looking ones out there. The question is, whether they are the best performing ones (best converting)? :-)

Not just his static sites, but his blogs are great looking too. I couldn't figure out what themes he is using for these blogs? Are these free or custom-made themes? Where could I get these great looking themes myself?

Darn! Since I am new here I can't post links to the blogs.

1) Blog by one of Anik's employees: watchblogs DOT com

2)One of Anik's blogs: iwillfight DOT com

Thanks for any help folks

-Ritesh

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TheFasterWebmaster

16 years ago

Hey Warriors...

Erik Stafford here, and I will share the full story about these page layouts with you...

But first, I want to apologize for how long it took me so long to respond to this. I haven't given The Warrior Forum the attention it deserves in the past, but that's about to change :-)

So yes, I designed these pages, for the most part... Anik asked me to help him with his PPC Classroom launch, and since I was pretty busy with my own products at the time I said yes... but I asked Dylan Jones to help me. Dylan is a young guy, but he is a helluva good designer. So Dylan helped a little with the PPC Classroom layout.

He is doing a bunch of work for Russel Brunson at the moment, it's good looking stuff:

Internet Marketing Strategies - Start an Online Business | DotComSecrets
http://www.getyourmembershipsite.com/

Anyways, Dylan didn't do any work on the rest of the sites you guys may be referring to in this thread (Launch Tree, PPC Classroom 2 and 3, Affiliate Classroom, and Direct Response Marketing) I did them.

And yes, they all converted like monsters :-)

In a future thread I will explain WHY the sites were designed the way they were and tell you about F-Patterns and other cool, geeky design stuff.

Until then, thanks for the compliments!

Erik

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Nathan Alexander

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TheFasterWebmaster

And yes, they all converted like monsters :-)

In a future thread I will explain WHY the sites were designed the way they were and tell you about F-Patterns and other cool, geeky design stuff.

Until then, thanks for the compliments!

Erik

And that's what counts. And I'd love to hear more about the "why" and the other cool stuff.
I probably wouldn't understand it, but it would be good listenin'!

(Am I the only one that doesn't know what an F-Pattern is?...I may not know, but I want one.)

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KarlWarren

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Nathan Alexander

And that's what counts. And I'd love to hear more about the "why" and the other cool stuff.
I probably wouldn't understand it, but it would be good listenin'!

(Am I the only one that doesn't know what an F-Pattern is?...I may not know, but I want one.)

Hi, here's something that will help:

F-Shaped Pattern For Reading Web Content (Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox)

Kindest regards,
Karl.

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FrankPinch

17 years ago

These are one pagers that have been around for a long time, they sell products, but are clearly not the future of Internet! There are millions of pages like these ones out there, nothing special about these ones, in my humble opinion!

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Kael41

17 years ago

I agree, however, there is some good color scheming going on there. I'd take that as a positive

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ExRat

17 years ago

Hi disi,

BTW - do you know guys why all those new sites have now a lot of 'text' written in form of graph file? They do not put simple HTML text but rather images with it like this one:

http://sales.ppcclassroom.com.s3.ama...images/sub.gif

Is it some kind of new trend? It looks better but does it not make SEO(key words harder job?

I don't know, but I would presume they are testing the effect of using headlines with drop shadow and other effects, presumeably to draw attention to them.

I doubt they get much SEO traffic - these sites have big launches & email traffic. The PPCclassroom site is in a frame anyway, which isn't exactly SEO friendly.

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disi

17 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi disi,

I doubt they get much SEO traffic - these sites have big launches & email traffic. The PPCclassroom site is in a frame anyway, which isn't exactly SEO friendly.

Good point. They don't need SEO for launch.

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eaglechick

17 years ago

Jeff one of the few free e-books that was actually worthwhile was from you.
Helped me a lot. The sites you mentioned do'nt look nice to me but maybe they
convert well. Brad Callen and Cindy Battye use Brent & Joe from minisitefrog.com.
Great stuff. I can immediately spot when a site was done by them.

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Michael Motley

17 years ago

Nothing special about these sites. I have a piece of software that will make 90% of that site for you then just add graphics

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havplenty 17 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

Nothing special about these sites. I have a piece of software that will make 90% of that site for you then just add graphics

Hi Michael,

What software is that if you don't mind me asking?
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Fernando Veloso

17 years ago

Using images has header is not new - at least for me - and it converts really nice. Been using it for myself and for clients since last year.

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sbucciarel

Banned 17 years ago

These sites don't excite me much. I like the flashier sites that I buy, like my recent purchase of backlinkjackpot.com and articlemarketingcashcow.com. I like graphics plus those sites came with 16 brand new, unique videos to sell as an ecourse. I've seen the minisite frog sites and they are nice too. There's a warrior here who runs WSO called semmy who has done two beautiful sites for me ....

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venu

17 years ago

I'll go with Jeff. I like the design of PPC Classroom 2.0. It is simple, elegant and has cool header and so on.

Venu.

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Steven Wagenheim 17 years ago

I know I'm color blind, but I think those sites are ugly as sin.

What am I not getting?

Is it just me?
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TheRichJerksNet

17 years ago

No offense but I would not call them killer sites... Looks just like a "marketers" sales page to me.. I see nothing that would get me all that excited...

James

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Steven Fullman

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

No offense but I would not call them killer sites... Looks just like a "marketers" sales page to me.. I see nothing that would get me all that excited...

James

I kinda like the 3d quality of the 1st page.

But...(crucially)...it didn't make me want to buy the product.

The words were quite persuasive, though. They did make me consider buying.

's all about the spiel, at the end of the day.

Steve

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melanied

17 years ago

That PPC Classroom design is really cool!!

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d3sign3r

17 years ago

I'm more than confident to produce better quality then those in the first post.. those look pretty plain to me too.

Cheers,
aLee

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FreshMedia 17 years ago

The PPC classroom is a nice site, but nothing really outstanding about them. I believe simplicity is probably the best way to go. Fancy graphics doesn't guarantee the sales in my opinion.
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intromaster

17 years ago

The text is in graphic form which makes it harder to copy their copy!

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Marcel Hartmann

17 years ago

They're not 'killer' pages. They look decent and simple, which is what visitors want. Nothing over the top and nothing really shabby. (Unless your gimmick is "see how I earn $20,000 a month designing killer squeeze pages with NO coding skills and NO basic design judgement!")

They don't really need to focus as much on SEO as they probably collect most of their revenue via affiliates.

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ShanghaiTours

17 years ago

The sites are cool, but not so much of "killer".

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Mukul Verma

17 years ago

I am curious how much does it cost? How much do Erik and Dylan charge for a page like this?

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morgansmom

17 years ago

I don't know...as someone who designs sites for people, I think these are great - especially PPC Classroom. There is a lot of attention paid to detail but not everyone would see that right away.

If it was someone's blog or an information site, then no they would not be "killer", but it's a sales page. It's not supposed to be flashy or it would take away from the sole purpose of the page which is to get people to BUY.

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mr2monster

17 years ago

Keep in mind that all of these people looking at the sites are looking at them from an internet marketers eyes.

Personally, I think both are very appealing to the eyes, and they both make me initially feel very relaxed. Which is a great way to increase sales.

So, it all depends on your definition of "killer".

Killer to me is being able to fill my bank account with money. I care not whether it earns the respect of other marketers eyes.

But I'm betting that yes, those are pretty killer sites.

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Nathan Alexander

16 years ago

Karl,

Thanks. And yikes! Very impressive stuff. Do people write and design with that in mind? And do most people? I'm still trying to get my head around...everything else.

Very cool reading. And I suppose very valuable when used with purpose.

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JonMills

16 years ago

When you cant figure out who designed it just outsource it. Anyone with a lick of talent can create sites like that

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TheFasterWebmaster

16 years ago

Nathan:

Thanks for the compliments and comments...

JonMills: You're right, anyone can create sites that look like that... but not many people can design sites that look like that AND convert. Believe me, it's not easy.

Erik

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