Thoughts about the freelancing niche

by sanba
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Hi there!

I hope you can help me. I've been following this forum for a while, but this is my first post.

My name is Santiago and I'm a designer.
I've been freelancing for the last year and while I love it, I'm starting to feel the burn.
Working with clients is hard. Chasing them, sending proposals, making revisions, invoices, etc. This takes a lot of time, and I'd like to try some smarter way to bring income.

I'm thinking about starting a website about freelance platforms like Upwork, PPH, Fiverr, and so. I'd make money through affiliate links and maybe some info product down the way.

Do you have expertise on this? Is the freelance niche profitable?

As a freelancer I know I bought many courses about freelancing. Most of them talk about niching down, position as the expert in the field and charge higher rates.

I want to try something similar with a twist (Although I'm not 100% sure how to do it).

Freelancing and trying to escape the 9 to 5 is my passion but maybe you have some thoughts about it before I commit my time into this.

I'd really appreciate any feedback you might have on this.

Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by sanba View Post

    Is the freelance niche profitable? . . .
    I want to try something similar with a twist (Although I'm not 100% sure how to do it).

    It seems to me that if you're going to become the expert in your niche, you need to be able to guide your audience based upon your own experience and success.

    Are you going to tell your audience "I'm not 100% sure how to do it"?

    I would simply suggest that you spend some time in doing market research and find out exactly what people contemplating freelancing really want. Validate your niche to be sure you have a buying audience.

    At the same time, you need to be successful at freelancing so you can give sound advice based on your own past work experience.

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  • Profile picture of the author hitsintoprofits
    Hey Santiago!

    The freelancing niche sure is very interesting and huge! It has a lot of potential. But...
    1. Most freelancers who need help, don't have a lot of money. That's why the need help ;-)
    2. There is already a lot of stuff out there about freelancing. A more specific niche is required.

    Maybe this is an interesting twist when it comes to your target group: People who want to become freelancers.

    Why? Because they still work a job and earn a steady income. Hence they can afford products.

    About your monetization idee: I think you will need a produkt like an ebook or course since most freelance plattforms don't have affiliate programs (Fiverr, Upwork).
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  • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
    I've been selling voice acting on Upwork for two years now, quit my day-job a year ago, and I'm just getting started.

    You claim that freelancing is your passion, and yet:
    Originally Posted by sanba View Post

    I've been freelancing for the last year and while I love it, I'm starting to feel the burn.
    Working with clients is hard. Chasing them, sending proposals, making revisions, invoices, etc. This takes a lot of time, and I'd like to try some smarter way to bring income.
    These should be taken as red flags that perhaps this is not the niche for you. Certainly if it's wearing you down after only a year, how are you going to convince anyone else that this is something worth pursuing?
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by sanba View Post

    Hi there!

    My name is Santiago and I'm a designer.
    I've been freelancing for the last year and while I love it,

    I'm starting to feel the burn.

    Working with clients is hard
    .

    Chasing them, sending proposals, making revisions, invoices, etc. This takes a lot of time,

    Modern "FREElancers" are some of the most enslaved people around.

    For all those reasons you mentioned, especially CHASING after a Pay Check.

    Yes, you are FREE to not work for someone, to not have a commitment, to "control your time"...but, too many Freelancers are experiencing what you did...which begs the question...

    WHY do you love it?

    Don't take my word for it, many (maybe even most) FREElancers spend more time per week working than the regularly paid
    wage slaves
    they make fun of.

    Some Worker Bees LOVE their job too, and when they leave it, they are done for the week with a paycheck and often benefits, like health insurance...

    So, there is a certain MYTH of being FREE with freelancing. Just an opinion here, but if one has the talent to freelance (anything)...

    they have the ability to create/acquire products which could work for them for decades.

    Just some food for thought, OK?

    gjabiz
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    • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
      Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

      Modern "FREElancers" are some of the most enslaved people around.
      They're doing it wrong then. Freelancers should never compete on price (it's a race to the bottom), instead, compete on quality. Let the bottom feeders take the cheap, slave wage gigs. There are plenty of clients willing to pay for high quality writing, graphic design, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author am7l
    Even if you set up a brilliant page, put tons of great information and everything, how are you gonna get people to find your page? Will you pay adds to get them to your page or do you simply hope they will find it by some miracle? It is one thing if you have a certain know-how but you should also know how to market your know-how else no one will read it and you will just waste more time on something that doesn't make you any money.
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    It seems you love to design more as designer, not loving that freelancing as freelancer.
    So, you better create the design as much as you can (love) and start to make your own design library website to sell your creation as membership.
    Hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Can't remember where I read it (Seth's blog, maybe?), but whoever it was addressed freelancing as a means of support.

    The gist was that you leave a job to become a free lancer, and you end up having several bosses, none of which is you.

    If you are "feeling the burn" already, spend the time and effort to figure out how to make dealing with customers and the back office stuff easier, and sell/teach that. If you're feeling the frustrations of freelancing, I can pretty much bet you are not alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    OP:

    Bill 50% up front. At least. 100% if you feel confident. Make sure you get paid. Don't chase money. Legit business owners are happy to pay you up front.

    Limit the number of revisions and tell them up front for them to agree. I limit to three and have never needed more than one.

    Didn't see what niche you serve, though you said you know all about targeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanba
    Thank you for such good answers.

    I guess I'm not ready to jump on the authority site wagon when I haven't figured it out myself how to get out of the rat race.

    Now that I read your answers I understand this is not the best way to go. At least for now.
    I don't want to be a scammy guru giving advice that I can't follow myself.

    Ultimately, what I'm trying to do is get some extra income. Maybe you could help me with some ideas or systems to explore.

    Don't get me wrong; I love freelancing and the idea behind it, but I want this to be my plan B.
    I know there must be some better ways to make money online, and I hope you can help me on this matter.

    Thanks again for taking the time to give me your advice. I really appreciate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GetPLRhere
    There is a script out there that pulls job listings from various job search engine sites. You can build a website / WordPress blog with this script and it will populate it with job feeds. Then just put affiliate links throughout the blog.

    There are also classified ad scripts that can create job boards, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashok Panda
    HI Santiago

    Your question is enticing , however answers to this question can be multiple. A review of facts follows

    1. floating a freelance site ,,, some of the most successful sites have seen merger ,, ( may be due to common understanding and decision to cut down intraspecific competition ,, however that also didnt see much rise in their popularity.. ( they were just able to retain their customer base and merge them .. it has partly to do with their USPs as well.. I am talking about elance and odesk. elance was a bit higher paying jobs platform. and odesk, after they became upwork. you can see the changes

    2. If you see another platform PPH , quite successful unique business model.. but has its flaws when it comes pricing and fees. protection towards freelancers is not impressive , but yes they are evolving. but if you see their second venture taskrabbit has not been able to gather much eyeballs.

    I have helped in concpetualizing semi freelance sites. but that needs an indepth knowledge and commitement, once you decide to take a leap. should give it at least 18 months. As it is a bridge between payors and providers of services .. both are your internal customers and it needs a multi prong approach.

    if you need any help do not hesitate to get in touch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
    Originally Posted by sanba View Post

    Hi there!

    I hope you can help me. I've been following this forum for a while, but this is my first post.

    My name is Santiago and I'm a designer.
    I've been freelancing for the last year and while I love it, I'm starting to feel the burn.
    Working with clients is hard. Chasing them, sending proposals, making revisions, invoices, etc. This takes a lot of time, and I'd like to try some smarter way to bring income.

    I'm thinking about starting a website about freelance platforms like Upwork, PPH, Fiverr, and so. I'd make money through affiliate links and maybe some info product down the way.

    Do you have expertise on this? Is the freelance niche profitable?

    As a freelancer I know I bought many courses about freelancing. Most of them talk about niching down, position as the expert in the field and charge higher rates.

    I want to try something similar with a twist (Although I'm not 100% sure how to do it).

    Freelancing and trying to escape the 9 to 5 is my passion but maybe you have some thoughts about it before I commit my time into this.

    I'd really appreciate any feedback you might have on this.

    Thank you!
    Sounds like you are over-working.

    Take a week break and get back to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanba
    Thank you for all your responses.

    I'm starting to realize that I need to try something different in order to get different results.

    I want to learn more about niche research.

    Can you help me?

    I opened this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-research.html

    Thank you!
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