When A Clickbank Vendor Wants Me To Sign Up To Access The Affiliate Goodies... I Don't

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I'm sure it's great marketing... most people probably
sign up, it helps build the vendor's list, etc.

But all I want is the banners, etc. I don't want to
be on another mailing list.

So I pass it up and move on to another vendor
that will let me freely access the affiliate stuff.

What do you think? Am I missing the point?

Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Personally, I don't have a problem with it. I can always unsubscribe later.

    Here is what I WON'T do.

    I won't let this process prevent me from selling what I am sure is going to
    make me an extra 10K because I know the product, understand the market
    and know how to promote to it.

    To me, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    But that's just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    Another thing to consider is that the vendor may also know the most effective strategies to promote his product. Affiliate tools and tips are meant to help you. Giving your email gives them a way of providing you with future assistance for promoting the product.

    Personally, I will sign up for any page that uses an autoresponder with a valid unsubscribe process because I know I can give a secondary email and opt out whenever I want.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
        Hey Brian,

        As a product owner, I don't really want anyone promoting my stuff if they are unwilling to at least sign up and tell me their name.

        Some product owners actually care about the actions of the affiliates and want to be able to maintain clear communication with them.

        It's smart business is what it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    The vendor should have a way to contact you. Imagine having a product and some affiliate out there is selling a butt load of it, but you have no idea how to contact them. You may wish to cut them a special deal on your next product, perhaps give them a bonus for selling so much, etc.

    The same with a bad affiliate that spams. It would sure be nice to know who they are.

    What about JV's? Perhaps you have something to sell that this vendor could promote if he/she in the future. Having a relationship with the vendor is not a bad thing at all.

    Test results... some vendors will send you recent split test results, etc. via list. You don't want to miss out on that valuable data.
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  • Profile picture of the author SolomonHuey
    Yup, same as everyone else. Doesn't bother me in the least, and in fact it indicates that the vendor is more likely to take their business seriously.

    But the point that I wanted to bring up was what Steven basically said ... If I know I can make sales off of a product that will help my subscribers, why wouldn't I?

    Solomon Huey
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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    Doesn't Travis Sago give people articles and things for free for his Magic of making up to help people promote it better and give affiliates prizes for the number of sales etc..? If that is what type of list you are on...not a bad idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author rodney2020
    Just get a junk email address and sign up for affiliate programs with it. Go to it if you need to or just go to it and delete all your inbox once a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author kf
    It seems to me that ClickBank (CB) vendors are constantly taking a hit for one thing or another they are either doing or not doing. Honestly, if vendors tried to keep all their affiliates (and CB doesn't even let them know who they are) happy all of the time, they would be hanging upside down by their thumbnails with their ar*e blowing in the breeze and even that would not be good enough.

    Now before you throw rotten tomatoes, I agree that vendors have their products in the marketplace to benefit from the built-in affiliate force. But - as has been discussed often - most vendors are not out to take advantage of their affiliates, 'steal' their commissions, etc.

    As others have said above, vendors want the affiliate info in order to offer help and support to affiliates, award strong performers and protect the credibility of their product.

    Without the vendors, there would be no products for the affiliates to promote and make money with. And without CB, affiliates wouldn't have a one-stop shop to find products to promote. Nor would vendors have a plug 'n play affiliate system.

    In the end, the vendor owns their product and are free to protect, grow and conduct their business as they like. (within the CB TOS and previously mentioned caveat of not cheating the affiliate, etc.) No doubt some do it better than others.

    In the end, the vendor owns their product and are free to protect, grow and conduct their business as they like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy1750
    Who cares? Use a phony email address or unsubscribe!?

    Goodness me!

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    • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
      Actually signing up as an affiliate can be a big help. Several of the launches I've helped promote recently did follow-up emails to the affiliates which included additional resources like extra autoresponder emails that could be used.

      Not one of the product owners has pitched anything else to me. It's been strictly about the product launch.

      And if I ever decided I didn't want to get their emails, for whatever reason, I can just click the unsubscribe link and it's done.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Cook
        Lots of good points here everybody... thanks for your input

        As a vendor myself, I haven't required my affiliates to sign
        up but now you have me re-thinking it.

        Brian
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Large companies online send info to their affiliates on a regular basis and I see nothing wrong with a product owner doing the same. The more you know about a company or product the better equipped you are to see it to others.

          I do think you are wrong not to sign up. If you have NO interest in what the seller is doing or what he has to say - how well can you sell his product?

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  • Profile picture of the author hhayman
    I always sign up with an email address I specifically created for signing up to affiliate programs. That way I know all the emails in that folder relates to affiliate offers I promote and I can read them when I want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
    Brian,

    I certainly appreciate your opinion.

    I know I'll turn some away at the same
    time...I try to offer a LOT of help to my affiliates
    and have a ton of fun at the same time.

    Plus...I know and TALK to many of my affilates...I
    spent two hours on Skype just last Friday with one
    affiliate that shows promise. I only wish I could talk
    to ALL of them.

    You know...at the risk of sounding like I am cryin' to
    momma...

    I have sold, as an affiliate, over $500,000 for one vendor
    and NEVER got even a thank you...

    and I've sold tons of product (In the 7 figures) as an affiliate for
    dozens of other vendors without even one 'atta boy'.

    Makes me feel like just another 'number' or something.

    I VOWED NEVER to let that happen to my affiliates
    when I became a 'vendor'.

    And by acting more as a coach...than a vendor...I believe
    EVERYONE profits and wins. It's hard to be a good coach
    if I don't know who's playin' on my team:-)

    Peace,
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Cook
      Travis,

      Thanks for your comments, and I know how you feel
      in a small way...

      Other than occasional gifts from Google, there is
      only one vendor who has ever thanked me for my
      participation... really nice gift baskets every Christmas!

      Obviously if I want to treat my super-affiliates with
      the same kind of courtesy, I'll need to know how to
      contact them... so we're back to the affiliate sign-up.

      Okay, I'm sold.

      Brian

      Originally Posted by Travis72802 View Post

      Brian,

      I certainly appreciate your opinion.

      I know I'll turn some away at the same
      time...I try to offer a LOT of help to my affiliates
      and have a ton of fun at the same time.

      Plus...I know and TALK to many of my affilates...I
      spent two hours on Skype just last Friday with one
      affiliate that I think has promise.

      You know...at the risk of sounding like I am cryin' to
      momma...

      I have sold, as an affiliate, over $500,000 for one vendor
      and NEVER got even a thank you...

      and I've sold tons of product (In the 7 figures) as an affiliate for
      dozens of other vendors without even one 'atta boy'.

      Makes me feel like just another 'number' or something.

      I VOWED NEVER to let that happen to my affiliates
      when I became a vendor.

      Peace,
      Travis
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by Travis72802 View Post

      Brian,

      I certainly appreciate your opinion.

      I know I'll turn some away at the same
      time...I try to offer a LOT of help to my affiliates
      and have a ton of fun at the same time.

      Plus...I know and TALK to many of my affilates...I
      spent two hours on Skype just last Friday with one
      affiliate that shows promise. I only wish I could talk
      to ALL of them.

      You know...at the risk of sounding like I am cryin' to
      momma...

      I have sold, as an affiliate, over $500,000 for one vendor
      and NEVER got even a thank you...

      and I've sold tons of product (In the 7 figures) as an affiliate for
      dozens of other vendors without even one 'atta boy'.

      Makes me feel like just another 'number' or something.

      I VOWED NEVER to let that happen to my affiliates
      when I became a 'vendor'.

      And by acting more as a coach...than a vendor...I believe
      EVERYONE profits and wins. It's hard to be a good coach
      if I don't know who's playin' on my team:-)

      Peace,
      Travis

      Travis, you are truly one of the real good guys in this industry, one where
      there is enough crap going around to really sour people's perception of it.

      Thank you for being you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Travis72802
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        Travis, you are truly one of the real good guys in this industry, one where
        there is enough crap going around to really sour people's perception of it.

        Thank you for being you.
        No...You da bomb!

        Hee...hee...

        Thanks Steven...I'm glad to know ya too.

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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    @ The OP

    When you are promoting hundreds of products... on nearly a thousand websites... you can't be monitoring them all day long...

    You will be happy that a vendor who is turning you $2,000 + profit a week, e-mails you to notify you of a product removal or change.

    Imagine a $2k income stream drying up out of nowhere because the vendor couldn't contact you for this notification?

    I will happily register with ANY vendor who takes the time and effort to put a system in place to help affiliates.

    Peace

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    • Profile picture of the author waken
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      @ The OP

      When you are promoting hundreds of products... on nearly a thousand websites... you can't be monitoring them all day long...

      You will be happy that a vendor who is turning you $2,000 + profit a week, e-mails you to notify you of a product removal or change.

      Imagine a $2k income stream drying up out of nowhere because the vendor couldn't contact you for this notification?

      I will happily register with ANY vendor who takes the time and effort to put a system in place to help affiliates.

      Peace

      Jay
      That could be good if that's what most vendor doing it. But most often, vendors "never" (I mean, rarely) use it to just send notification or new products that they may have added in their product line.. but they send affiliate promotions of a lot of other big product launches too.

      And to the OP ...
      Don't feel sorry to unsubscribe once you've access to the promotional material.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Signing up to the vendor is vital, any promotion, any changes at all are important to any serious affiliate.

    To actually walk away from promoting a high converting product because they request your e-mail address is very strange.

    A serious affiliate who generates revenue will always want to be on the vendors list, and serious vendors know this.
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  • i always have a squeeze page in front of my affiliate section. most, including myself, dont do this to get your name in thier list to advertise other products. we do this so that we can tell you about future offers and products we are planning to launch in the future. steven is right, you can always unsubscribe if you begin getting promotional emails from that vendor. by passing up a product just because they have a squeeze page, you might be passing up a ton of cash you just missed out on.
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