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I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now. I'm feeling a bit frustrated because there are so many courses that promise you great results but after I bought them found them not very helpful.

And then I tried to hire a coaching to help me. But after just 1 month he began to be impatient in answering my questions. So I pulled out of his coaching program and he wouldn't even refund half of my money back. So I wasted all my money and didn't get much at all.

This half year hasn't been a good experience. But I really want to make it work.

I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen. I'm trying my best to cheer myself up and keep going on.

What do you suggest is the best way to continue with online marketing and make it a success? What was your early days like?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Like so many new people trying to make a go of online business, you have succumbed to the "buy, buy, buy" mentality to get started.

    Trade that mindset for the "sell, sell, sell" mentality. You can get started for almost nothing.

    There are a ton of threads here about how to get going without spending much. Really, all you need is a domain name, inexpensive hosting, an autoresponder account, and your time.

    Good luck to you,

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    A couple of things I noticed:

    1. About 3 weeks ago you were asking how to add your Adsense code to your site. It still isn't there. No coach or ebook or program is going to be able to help you if you don't do what needs to be done. That's 3 weeks you may have had a chance to make a little bit that instead are wasted.

    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen. I'm trying my best to cheer myself up and keep going on.
    2. Your site is about self-improvement type things. Yet, you admit that you can't implement what you are teaching. Have you thought about other areas that you may be more suited to teach?

    Most of us struggled in the beginning. Some of us struggled for years before we found our way. Everyone's path to success is different. I hope you find yours.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author webmarke
    I think the problem most people who are struggling to make money online is that they are focused on the end result too much.

    Because your energy is focused on the end results, you rush through the steps you need to succeed and jump from one project to another before giving yourself a chance to succeed with the first one.

    My suggestion would be to stop focusing on the end results and start focusing on the process.

    Your goal should be to learn how to do 1 certain thing at a time that will eventually get you to the end results that you are seeking.

    So...Decide on a path and stick to it! Celebrate the small accomplishments and then move on to the next step of the process!

    If you keep focusing on the end result, then you will eventually become frustrated and will not do the steps that it takes to get that end result!
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now.
    Do you really expect to have success simply by just "learning" for about a half year?

    You need to take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now. I'm feeling a bit frustrated because there are so many courses that promise you great results but after I bought them found them not very helpful.

    I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen.
    I have a serious question that you need to answer - you don't need to give the answer here but you need to acknowledge it on your own...

    Have you actually spent any significant time doing anything to build a business?

    You say you bought many courses, how many of those did you actually implement?

    Also, visualizing doesn't work if that's all you're doing...

    The whole point of visualizing is to create a vision that encourages you to put in the work.

    Regards,
    Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now. I'm feeling a bit frustrated because there are so many courses that promise you great results but after I bought them found them not very helpful.

    And then I tried to hire a coaching to help me. But after just 1 month he began to be impatient in answering my questions. So I pulled out of his coaching program and he wouldn't even refund half of my money back. So I wasted all my money and didn't get much at all.

    This half year hasn't been a good experience. But I really want to make it work.

    I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen. I'm trying my best to cheer myself up and keep going on.

    What do you suggest is the best way to continue with online marketing and make it a success? What was your early days like?
    MMO is a harder game now than say 3 yrs ago , now you have to be on your game to make some $$ , I would suggest you have a hard think on what you want out of this MMO

    Why I write that is you have a piss por attitude and by the looks of it you just want it served to you ! and that ain't going to happen

    If you purchase a course or hire a coach do not go looking for refund because you may as well give up now and find a JOB ( just on broke) mindset has to be right

    Find one thing and get good at it and the rest will be easy , remember attitude will give you altitude if you do it right the first time and take it slowly

    Not sure go on you tube there are thousands of tuts you can learn off

    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author Sven300
    1) Stop buying miracles methods. There is no miracle method. You can study for free what you need to know on

    a) this forum,
    b) typing your question into Google,
    c) You Tube.

    2) The vast majority of websites do not make money. Bring your expectations to a more realistic level. You will not become rich in a few weeks.

    3) Concentrate on one thing. Persevere. Become excellent. And success will come gradually.

    4) Personally I started as a web content writer in French. Then I worked as a SEO to other websites. Then I played online poker. Then I made my own websites. And I did well in all these activities.

    Good luck!

    P.S. I agree with what everyone else said in this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert02011
      Originally Posted by Sven300 View Post

      1) Stop buying miracles methods. There is no miracle method. You can study for free what you need to know on

      a) this forum,
      b) typing your question into Google,
      c) You Tube.

      2) The vast majority of websites do not make money. Bring your expectations to a more realistic level. You will not become rich in a few weeks.

      3) Concentrate on one thing. Persevere. Become excellent. And success will come gradually.

      4) Personally I started as a web content writer in French. Then I worked as a SEO to other websites. Then I played online poker. Then I made my own websites. And I did well in all these activities.

      Good luck!

      P.S. I agree with what everyone else said in this thread.
      Stop Buying WSO that take your money!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now. I'm feeling a bit frustrated because there are so many courses that promise you great results but after I bought them found them not very helpful.

    And then I tried to hire a coaching to help me. But after just 1 month he began to be impatient in answering my questions. So I pulled out of his coaching program and he wouldn't even refund half of my money back. So I wasted all my money and didn't get much at all.

    This half year hasn't been a good experience. But I really want to make it work.

    I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen. I'm trying my best to cheer myself up and keep going on.

    What do you suggest is the best way to continue with online marketing and make it a success? What was your early days like?
    Can you share more on what you have tried so far?
    Such as what traffic sources, how you monetize the backend, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chicago87
    You want to some good tips? Here they are:
    • Law of Attraction is largely BS as you have experienced yourself. Just because you imagine something doesn't mean it will magically appear. Does something like that even make any logical sense? Hoping for something to magically appear just because you imagine it is almost like hoping that you will win the lottery, except you actually have a chance, albeit a small one, at winning the lottery if you play.
    • If you want to make IM work, you have to get properly targeted traffic and sell something of value to that traffic.
    • Find a way on your own, no one will give you the magical bullet that will start generating you an income.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShawnLim
    Like what some of us suggested here.
    As long as you LEARN and TAKE ACTION, results will come.
    One thing though, just pick a model and be CONSISTENT with it.
    Don't jump from building one website to another.
    Don't switch one program to another.
    Don't shift your focus.
    Take action and be consistent and stay in building 1 website with 1 model until you make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Banglachatroom
    It takes time to build reputation. Be a honest seller and try to help your customers. Use Facebook and other social media to advertise your site. You can also use adsfly advertising to get traffic to your site. Google it if you want to know how to use those services. But remember website content is above all. If you have rich content in your web page, a little advertising will bring you business.
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  • Profile picture of the author blakesienna
    One step at a time. Learn first about the basics of online marketing. Read blogs, watch videos and visit different forums. You could learn a lot from it. Focus first on what you want to offer. Create an objective. Make a list on how you will be able to achieve that objective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    But after just 1 month he began to be impatient in answering my questions.
    This is a sign that you were not listening.

    This is one of the main reasons I do not respond to PMs asking for help. People only want the answer they wish to be true, they won't hear anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
    Originally Posted by kekehuang View Post

    I've been trying to learn about online marketing for about half year now. I'm feeling a bit frustrated because there are so many courses that promise you great results but after I bought them found them not very helpful.

    And then I tried to hire a coaching to help me. But after just 1 month he began to be impatient in answering my questions. So I pulled out of his coaching program and he wouldn't even refund half of my money back. So I wasted all my money and didn't get much at all.

    This half year hasn't been a good experience. But I really want to make it work.

    I even tried to learn about Law of Attraction, but since I started trying to visualize what I want, bad things started to happen. I'm trying my best to cheer myself up and keep going on.

    What do you suggest is the best way to continue with online marketing and make it a success? What was your early days like?

    Hi my friend I am glad you have not given up.

    There are so many of us who had a terrible first half of the game and then had a great 2nd half and won the game.

    You just have to focus on making someone else a success really.

    Find a product/service and match it to the person that would really appreciate it and then YOU will start feeling successful and our bank account will prove it.

    I have mixed feelings on Law of Attraction. I do know people that are walking rain clouds and some are walking sunshine so really the key is no matter what cards you are dealt just play it through to the best of your ability. Then deal with the next set of cards you are dealt the same way.

    You can not have a "why does this always happen to me" mentality because you are programming the brain with a false premise and it will go to work to find evidence to make you right even if you are wrong.

    So program your brain to say what can I learn from this and improve on for the future and your brain will go to work on getting you to where you want to be.

    Art
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  • Profile picture of the author kartherma
    Keke,
    It might be helpful if there were a better definition of "online marketing" or "internet marketing"...
    It seems to me that too many folks latch on to these terms as an idea that money can be made by just 'marketing' something online.

    I don't really see a lot of people asking a lot of questions about 'print marketing' or 'infomercial marketing' or 'television' or 'radio' marketing. (If you look for it you can find it, but here on WF it seems the majority is into 'internet marketing').

    A mindset-
    I have a good product or service that is valuable to a well defined segment of the greater market and I am choosing the internet as opposed to magazine and newspapers to market my product to my intended audience.

    Do you see how that identifies 'internet marketing' as one of several different channels a product can be brought to market with- as opposed to 'I'll make some money doing internet marketing'?

    If what you are really after is 'make money online' I might suggest developing a skill that you can sell as a service and then apply what you have learned here on WF to market that service to potential customers.

    I hope this makes a bit of sense, if not, feel free to PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattB27
    Whats your goal? To make money? If so how? There's a lot of options out their but only you can decide. Information products or physical, Affiliate marketing or service based. Whats your passion, do you like design/writing? Unless you have a clear goal you wont have a clear path to get their
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  • Profile picture of the author Sagar arora
    See first and the most important thing is you won't get success in online marketing that easily. That's the bitter truth and I think all these ebooks and coaching are a waste. Just read articles and practice them on your blog. You will face failures. But those failures are actually your experiences and you will get better and better with time.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Welcome to the change! You know as soon as you create some goals and plans the challenges start to come. You have left and right up and down, south and north and you have good and you have bad.

    Both are going to be there and your not going to change that. It's what you do with what you get the counts. Every bad that or at least seems bad at the moment has an opposite side to it which is the good and its our job to find that.

    We have the power of choice.

    If things seem hard that is good. Means your learning

    Stay away from the naysayers and don't hang out with the crowd standing at the water cooler all the time.

    Success will come but only when you are ready!
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  • Profile picture of the author atheistberkurap
    IMHO , you need to unlearn and do the basic first

    don't focus on complexity that mess with you head

    be a boss .. not an engineer ...let engineer do their engineer things

    you as a boss ..need to simplify
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  • Profile picture of the author YourGoToWriter
    Do not focus on the end results. Do not just focus on what you want. Instead, learn and understand what your target market wants. Customers are the bloodline of your business and you have to take care of them. Provide them services and products that would make them feel satisfied.
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  • Profile picture of the author iselesokmo
    a very good post here man
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  • Profile picture of the author George Schwab
    it's not so much techniques, it;s more complex

    you have to find a personal angle

    and you have to defend it even if your wife not believe you

    anymore

    but what do girls know?

    not much really, they all fall flat once you make your first 30k

    only then they come around and trust you

    one guy said women have an animalistic spirit...and he got a point
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  • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
    Learn how to build a real business? Try to make money by offering value, not by offering promises, or catchy headlines, or gimmicks. Offer real things and people will give you real money for it. The problem with a lot of the advice out there is that it's "get rich quick" advice and that kind of advice is often skipping corners. If you had to build your own house, would you want the cheapest instructions for "building a house quick"? If no, then why would you do that for your business?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alastair Hayward
    You want to make money online, but you keep getting caught up in all of the technical stuff that goes along with starting an online business… HTML, CSS, FTP, PHP and a dozen other things you have to have to know to get a website online and making you money… right? You get ANOTHER email… from ANOTHER guru… telling you about the NEW shiny object of the day…

    So many people are trying to give advise on how to make money online when they aren’t even really selling any products themself.
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  • Profile picture of the author kekehuang
    Thanks a lot for all the input here.
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  • Profile picture of the author kekehuang
    I read an article today about "Tough-Minded People", that really helped a lot. The article says:"Tough-minded people have grit at their core. They are persistent and resilient in the face of failure, loss, success and challenge.
    The tough minded are born with the fortitude and temperament to get back up and keep going through all failure or adversity." I guess that's really how I need to be. Here's the link for this article: https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/252993
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  • Profile picture of the author gwilfo1988
    Hi there, don't get disheartened by it all.
    Right now a positive mindset is very important, keep yourself motivated. Cornel Sanders didn't succeed in making the second largest ever franchise until he was 60, and he tried his whole life (Never Give Up)

    You need to make goals and physically cross them off day by day.
    Be sure to know why you are doing this and how it's going to change you life, visualisation is a good thing as long as your implementing your strategy along side it.

    First, pick a solid market or product that you understand or is established, attractive and sellable.
    I would then use a mix of free and paid traffic to generate leads that will drive them to your blog/product in the goal of becoming a respectable authority figure in the niche.

    Aim on providing your leads with value.
    "Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value." ~ Albert Einstein
    The success will follow.

    Giving free targeted information that is congruent with the product/programme you're selling is essential to good marketing which means you should be reading or learning a little everyday to provide additional value. Don't sit on the fence with this, you get paid proportionately to the amount of value that you provide.

    The rest is all technical stuff that you will find elsewhere. Blog/website/landing-page/auto-resposnder etc.

    I hope this helps

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author ByEdvin
    For me it took 4 years befour I started to see any results... I heard from one guy that it took him 10 years thats crazy!!!

    Here is the thing... if you want to succeed in this industry you have to keep going...
    you will learn so much on the way to success

    I recommend that you start developing your mindset (start listening to Dan Peña) most people have extremely bad mindset when they start

    Hope this will help you
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
      Originally Posted by ByEdvin View Post

      For me it took 4 years befour I started to see any results... I heard from one guy that it took him 10 years thats crazy!!!

      Here is the thing... if you want to succeed in this industry you have to keep going...
      you will learn so much on the way to success

      I recommend that you start developing your mindset (start listening to Dan Peña) most people have extremely bad mindset when they start

      Hope this will help you
      Wow. It is really sad to say but the number one obstacle that gets in the way of most marketers in my opinion is other marketers.

      What comes after the big mega launch series of emails you got for 2 weeks every day...the next big launch!

      Hypnotic sales copy has probably also contributed to more going in circles while emptying wallets at the same time.

      One thing every successful marketer will have in common is a good understanding of how they are being marketed to and how to control impulses and still know when to make smart strategic investments to grow their business.

      4 to 10 years = Face Palm

      Marketing love/hate relationship.
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  • Profile picture of the author adam87
    I have read many guides for marketing online especially free and something I learned
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    1. Choose a niche that interests you.
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