I made $31 with Clickbank and Bing but it was Refunded

Yes, that is the niche I am in.

HOWEVER, once I started promoting the SAME type of products on JVZoo and Warrior Plus, my refund rate dropped well below 2%.

For instance, last month I had 960 affiliate sales and only 11 refunds. Those were mostly JVZoo and Warrior Plus products. That is a refund rate of 1.15%.

If I did the same amount in Clickbank products I can almost guarantee the refund rate would be closer to 20% or even higher. This is the reason why I dumped them over 2 years ago.

I'm not sure why this is, but I have heard it from countless other marketers as well.

I'll never promote CB products ever again. There is no need to when I can absolutely crush it with other networks.

There is nothing like buying a 500 click solo ad for $300 and making 5 sales of a $100 CPA product knowing that I won't have to worry about losing any of them to refunds. $200 profit and 200-250 free new subscribers works for me all day.

That's another reason why I stopped messing with PPC ads and Facebook ads. It's near impossible to achieve a positive ROI and they don't like people in the "biz opp" niche anyway. Solo ads are the way to go if you want to delve into paid traffic.

Solos are an EASY way to build your list for free and make money. I do it EVERY DAY and have been doing it every day for the last 5 years. This is for the BIZ OPP niche only! Could it work for other niches? Yes, if you can find solo ad providers for them, but the reality is that 95% of all solo ad vendors are in the "biz opp" niche.

1. Join a good CPA network that has biz opp offers that pay in the range of $75-$250. Personally, I like Cash Network. However, you'll need to be an established affiliate in order to be accepted there. If you cannot get accepted there then I recommend Clicksure. MaxBounty and Peerfly also have lots of decent offers and they are a bit easier to get accepted into, but they will still need to speak to you on the phone.

2. Make a simple funnel. Something like this: SQUEEZE PAGE -> REDIRECT PAGE (for tracking) -> CPA OFFER. Send subscribers to your download page via your welcome email. Include several CPL (pay per lead) offers on your download page. Put an exit pop up on your squeeze page that redirects to a CPL offer. This way you can make a few bucks from your exit traffic. This helps to defer the cost of the solo.

3. Buy a 500 click solo ad from a reputable vendor. I usually pay anywhere from .40 - .75 per click. Now, you need to make sure your squeeze page can convert at 40% or better. This takes some practice, but the most important aspect of this is your headline. Make it catchy and irresistible.

The goal here is simple. You want to convert at 40% or better, and you want to get those leads for free. This means you need to make a few sales to cover the cost of the solo. Most CPA networks provide conversion stats. Pick offers that are converting at 5% or better. You will understand why once you see the math I'm going to show you.

OK, so let's say you have your funnel set up and your solo ad bought. Let's look at a little math so I can show you how I have been building my list for free for the past 5 years and making a killing in the process.

The System

I buy 500 clicks for .75 each. That costs me $375.

I convert 500 clicks at 40%. That's 200 new subscribers.

Those 200 subscribers are redirected to the CPA offer I chose immediately after they subscribe.

That means 200 people will see the CPA offer. The CPA offer pays me $75 (I usually promote the ones that pay $90 - $100 per sale) for each sale I make, but for this example I'll use a lower paying offer just to show how easy this really is.

The CPA offer I picked is converting at 5%. If I send 200 people to the CPA offer and it converts at 5%, I should be able to make 10 sales. The truth is that it will most likely NOT convert at 5%. HOWEVER, it will most likely convert at around half that which would be 2.5%. This means that I should be able to make 5 sales (in many cases I make more).

The Math

500 clicks * .75 per click = $375

Total ad spend - $375

500 clicks converted at 40% = 200 new subscribers

200 clicks to a CPA that pays $75 results in 5 sales (2.5% conversion)

Total spend = 500 * .75 = $375
Total revenue = $75 * 5 = $375

As you can see, a WORST CASE SCENARIO for me means that I break even and get 200 new subscribers added to my list for FREE.

I low balled these numbers.

There have been many times where I have bought 500 clicks for $200 and promoted a CPA offer that pays $100 and made 6 or 7 sales.

There are many times when I have converted as high as 47% or 48% instead of 40%.

Getting a positive ROI on solo ads is not difficult providing you have:

1. A compelling squeeze page. I find that simple is best. A great headline with an opt-in box above the fold is all you need.

2. A good solo ad vendor. This can be tricky, but I have been doing this for so long that I know and buy from all of the best sellers in the industry.

3. A high converting CPA offer. These are easy to find, and most networks provide conversion stats. If you want to take it a step further, contact your affiliate manager and ask him to give you a hot offer. They know what is converting and will not steer you wrong.

That's IT!


You DO NOT need all kinds of fancy software or a fancy squeeze page or some $1000 course by some "guru" to learn how to do this.

Once you get the hang of it, you upscale it and then rinse and repeat.

THOUSANDS of IMers are leveraging this same method to make 5 figures per month.

The important thing to remember is that your goal on the solo ad should be to break even so you get your subscribers for free.

What separates the men from the boys is the ability to then be able to build a relationship with your list (that you practically built for free) and turn them into repeat customers.

Remember folks, the money IS in the list.

Too many people fail at this because they don't see the big picture. They are too busy trying to make money on the solo ad buys. Forget that. You don't need to profit on the solo ad. You only need to BREAK EVEN so you can get your leads for free. The REAL money comes later when you start converting your subscribers into memberships that pay you recurring commissions every month.

Of course, the above won't work unless you TAKE ACTION.

Terinah

Careful not to high jack the OPs thread !! maybe next time start another one as most of the answers have been about your efforts and not the Ops