You may be right to distrust Google...

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Charges today that Google is skewing search results for political candidates - or for one specific candidate in particular.

The charge is Google has "tweaked" its search to avoid negative auto-completes on one of the candidates. By chance it is a candidate the head of google supports.

Will be interesting to see if this is considered "irrelevant" by the media or if it leads to serious questions about google manipulation of opinion under guise of "results".

Will it be provable? If so, will anything come of this? It's the kind of exploitation (if true) that leads to more and more regulations.
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    I looked at the title and realized you forgot to put the word 'be' in between 'may' and 'right'.

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    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


    The charge is Google has "tweaked" its search to avoid negative auto-completes on one of the candidates. By chance it is a candidate the head of google supports.
    It seems that Facebook is being accused of something similar with their algorithm for news searches


    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Will it be provable? If so, will anything come of this? It's the kind of exploitation (if true) that leads to more and more regulations.
    The regulations will only come if a certain group start doing it

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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I realized I left "be" out - but I don't know how to edit the title....oops

    My own feeling was if this is widely publicized it could be very damaging to google's reputation. Every now and then I remember some rather severe actions toward businesses (the AT&T breakup?) and wonder if the same might eventually make Google a target if it becomes too 'influential'.

    I would think chances of oversight or regulation would be higher if it's proven the extensive reach of the search engine is being used to manipulate public opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


      I would think chances of oversight or regulation would be higher if it's proven the extensive reach of the search engine is being used to manipulate public opinion.
      Political speech, even by a corporation, is protected under the first amendment. It'd be very hard to try and regulate Google with regard to polical leanings. The same applies to Facebook.
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        Originally Posted by BradVert2013 View Post

        Political speech, even by a corporation, is protected under the first amendment. It'd be very hssiard to try and regulate Google with regard to polical leanings. The same applies to Facebook.
        This is true. Although the social repercussions ( the way Society views and interacts with places like Google and FB ) could be damaging for them in the long run !!


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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by BradVert2013 View Post

        Political speech, even by a corporation, is protected under the first amendment. It'd be very hard to try and regulate Google with regard to polical leanings. The same applies to Facebook.
        I believe Google has already won two lawsuits concerning their results being biased and won based on the First Amendment and their results are considered their opinion.


        On the other hand, having an opinion that Google's SERs are biased is also protected and we can choose another SE and/or complain about Google.
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    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Charges today that Google is skewing search results for political candidates - or for one specific candidate in particular.

    The charge is Google has "tweaked" its search to avoid negative auto-completes on one of the candidates. By chance it is a candidate the head of google supports.

    Will be interesting to see if this is considered "irrelevant" by the media or if it leads to serious questions about google manipulation of opinion under guise of "results".

    Will it be provable? If so, will anything come of this? It's the kind of exploitation (if true) that leads to more and more regulations.
    Mhmm where did you hear this? Do you have any proof of this? Also, this definitely belongs in the Off-Topic Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    It certainly seems pretty clear that it is happening.

    If you type in Hillary Clinton all but google seems to return Hillary Clinton indictment as #1

    If you enter Hillary Clinton cri... google will auto fill Hillary Clinton Crime Reform, where others are returning Hillary Clinton Crimes.

    If you do a search regarding trump, then google returns the same as others. So is it happening, test it for yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    this definitely belongs in the Off-Topic Forum.
    By what definition???? This is very much ON topic as it is potential news about GOOGLE - the search engine people here talk about all the time.

    This isn't a story about protected speech - but about potentially unethical pracdtices by the leading search engine online. As I understand the story - it's not presenting the wrong sites as search results but in manipulating autocomplete and google suggest...

    May be nothing to it - a FB group called SourceFed talks about it and wikileaks backed a video on the subject. Lots of smoke - but may be no fire there.

    Worth watching considering the lengths google goes to so marketers can't easily "manipulate" rankings online....

    Google has been accused of manipulating results in the past - big fracas about a year ago (with yelp?) that came to nothing. This might be the same result.
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    • Profile picture of the author BradVert2013
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      This isn't a story about protected speech - but about potentially unethical pracdtices by the leading search engine online. As I understand the story - it's not presenting the wrong sites as search results but in manipulating autocomplete and google suggest...

      I only responded to your comment:

      It's the kind of exploitation (if true) that leads to more and more regulations.
      Regulation would imply the government forcing Google to arrange their search results a certain way. But there have already been a few court cases where it has been determined that doing so violates the first amendment.

      Unethical? Maybe. But unethical doesn't always mean illegal.
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    June 9th fresh...it's well worth the worth the watch.


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    Good ol' Matt responded on twitter.

    https://www.seroundtable.com/matt-cu...lts-22227.html

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