Still Trying To Make Money?

by Ebbi
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Hey Folks,

Like the title say's I'm asking if you are still trying to make money in this
hard world of internet marketing. The reason I'm asking, is because
I wanted to throw something by you and see if this might not just help you
at least figure out, that by just taking action, wonderful things can happen.

Instead of lurking around the WSO section waiting for the "next big thing" to
hit the store do this;


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Go to any of the popular blog sites (blogger, wordpress, etc...) and open a
blog about just ANYTHING, anything you don't have a problem writing about.

It can be about white paper, shoes, pens, speakers, what you hate the most,
etc... You get the point.

After you have done that write the first blog and post it, don't think about if
the spelling is correct, if it makes sense or if people would like it. Just write
it and post it!


Extra
(If you have nothing else to do you can find a good looking template just to
get a more personal touch, BUT it's not needed)


Now, the only thing you have to do is write one blog post each day and then
don't even think about it, this is only going to take you about 5 to 10 minutes
each day and when you're done you can go back to reading ebooks, forums,
lurking around the WSO forum and waiting for the "next big thing" in online
marketing.

I know all this sounds crazy and stupid but just do this for 30 days and then
check your traffic stats.... You'll be amazed, trust me

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WHY? Because if you actually do this it will automatically open your eyes to
the fact that taking action is more then 50% of the "Making It Big Time" in
the Online money world.

And if nothing else, you'll see that traffic isn't that hard to find if you just
actually put the effort in finding it

Take care,
Ebbi

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After getting few responses to this thread I thought it would be best if I
actually did what I was asking you to do... Sounds pretty smart to me hehe
Anyways, You can follow the progress by reading this thread and you can find
the blog I started here: Dumbguru IM Blog
#make #money #tying
  • Profile picture of the author PapiShasho
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    • Profile picture of the author generalet
      You are so right ebbi. I just HAD to register and reply to your post. I think I can sum up your post in a few words. Information overload and procrastination. That's what I'm suffering from. Thanks for helping me see the light.
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  • Profile picture of the author designyourlife
    I agree...energy and persistence conquers all - Benjamin Franklin
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ho
    Very true and inspiring.. we keep waiting for that magic method to get that boatload of traffic when really it's all already there..
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    I'm glad you find this thread interesting and helpful after all that's the point.

    I'm also glad to see someone that doesn't agree, that's just healthy.
    generalet, I'm glad you signed up for this forum, without even knowing it you
    took action I don't think you'll find a better forum to spend your time at
    as long as you use it to your benefits and not just to lurk around and do nothing.

    Because we have one here that say's this isn't true I feel I shouldn't just stand
    here and say that something works, I believe it's my duty to actually practice what
    I preach so after this post is submitted I'm going to do what I wrote above and
    then post it here in the thread.

    By looking at the time stamp on this post and the next one you'll be able to see how
    long it actually took me to get going.

    Take care,
    Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author aihamshujaa
    Thanks for the heads up. I have blogs with both blogger and wordpress and have yet to see results. But fingers crossed. I'm giving serious thought to using onlywire. anyone have any thoughts on this service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    It's done.

    thedumbguru.wordpress.com

    Regards,
    Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    Took a little bit longer than expected but the main thing is that it's DONE!
    Now I'll just have to come up with one blog post each day for a month and when that's
    done we'll see if the search engines gave us some traffic or not.

    As you can see the thedumbguru.wordpress.com is a IM related blog where I'll be talking
    about useful stuff imo so don't be shy to read it ones in a while if you are bored

    Take care,
    Ebbi
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      i might be an old hag...but i know a thing or two about this. believe you me I was not making money for 4 years...maybe a few dollars here and there but yes like maybe $9 a year.

      Then I met my mentor here in Australia, and he kicked my ass...told me to get off my butt and take action.

      Get this...

      3 months later I had created a list, two niche products and quit my job and was making $3000 a month. Enough to quit my job.

      These days, you can add a few zeros to that $3000 a month and every time i hear my brother winge about his 9 to 5'er I laugh rolling on the ground.

      Seriously take action, build a list and act like a friend. Find a passion and build a list around it. Give them the best stuff you can find and make them wait at the computer just for one of your emails to come through. Seriously if you dont have a list you wont win this game.

      I have people emailing me if i dont send them an email every few days. seriously, do you know how powerful this is....I am like the crack dealer, and I have the best supply, and my customers just keep coming back again and again....and again...

      I can send out 1 email and make alot of mullah...not gunna brag....

      just build a list and gain their respect and then you too can become that CRACK dealer....
      bigger then list the better....i know its cliche...but THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST...

      amen anyone - hope this helps.

      Celente
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      • Profile picture of the author outrage
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        i might be an old hag...but i know a thing or two about this. believe you me I was not making money for 4 years...maybe a few dollars here and there but yes like maybe $9 a year.

        Then I met my mentor here in Australia, and he kicked my ass...told me to get off my butt and take action.

        Get this...

        3 months later I had created a list, two niche products and quit my job and was making $3000 a month. Enough to quit my job.

        These days, you can add a few zeros to that $3000 a month and every time i hear my brother winge about his 9 to 5'er I laugh rolling on the ground.

        Seriously take action, build a list and act like a friend. Find a passion and build a list around it. Give them the best stuff you can find and make them wait at the computer just for one of your emails to come through. Seriously if you dont have a list you wont win this game.

        I have people emailing me if i dont send them an email every few days. seriously, do you know how powerful this is....I am like the crack dealer, and I have the best supply, and my customers just keep coming back again and again....and again...

        I can send out 1 email and make alot of mullah...not gunna brag....

        just build a list and gain their respect and then you too can become that CRACK dealer....
        bigger then list the better....i know its cliche...but THE MONEY REALLY IS IN THE LIST...

        amen anyone - hope this helps.

        Celente
        sounds interesting. i tried different ways now to make money online since 3 years. i made some month 500$ in adsense, but on a day they kicked me, cause i do not looked to deep in there agreements and never got my last money. shame. (and i never found a ppc network like adsene that is clicked so high) i tried also to generate adult traffic and made some good bucks, but with to much work. it is not so hard to generate traffic in this niche, but the convertion ratio is very hard there.
        i know focus to get a very special own site progged (i work together with proggers from getafreelancer - i for myself have cannot prog .php). the work is not finished now, but want to start beta as soon as possible.

        but after all i´m very interested how you generate your list and what you really mean by this. just try to find users that are involved in your newsletter ???

        if you can maybe expalin a bit more. it will help many people here i think.

        thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    I have just submitted my 2 post on day 2!

    Some of you might actually find it interesting if you are battling to get accepted
    by the CPA networks. ---> DumbGuru's IM Blog

    Ebbi,
    P.s. Nice post there celente!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    cool, ebbi.

    Just take constant action, you will be fine. Dont listen to anyone that says you wont be successful. Even my wife doubted me at the beginning but she gets round in a bloody nice big 4WD.

    I know my friend an hour away here in OZ frequents this forum. He makes alot more than I do, but is the sweetest, softest most humblest man (I dont wanna name him)

    Now it is this reason that I come here. I love some of the advice on here at times..some smart cookies. U just gotta know how to use this info. People get stuck here and read soemthing and never take action. silly....really....

    Become a constant action taker and test....then test more, then yes...u guessed it...test some more till you have a winner....

    Oh and that list, I sent an stupid messy email out last night and made $4,109.23 in a crazy niche i never thought would have been profitable. Just goes to show you.... take action and build that list my brother and you will be fine...we are all here to help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    patience and creativity...ha ha ...im the worst example of both of those.

    Get in....get your hands dirty and have a look at what is up above my monitor..

    NO pic but is says " S U A W " pronounced SAAWW which means SHUT UP AND WORK!

    its the only way you make money...no being pretty and creative.
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  • Profile picture of the author rgrimes
    Right On!!! I have been now officially promoted to taking action!!! I was stuck on what my first blog post should be on my new blog! Even though I have marketed and made money, for some reason i am trying to get everything perfect before i start blogging on it, but the real truth is just to take action right!

    thanks again
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    • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
      Originally Posted by rgrimes View Post

      Right On!!! I have been now officially promoted to taking action!!! I was stuck on what my first blog post should be on my new blog! Even though I have marketed and made money, for some reason i am trying to get everything perfect before i start blogging on it, but the real truth is just to take action right!

      thanks again
      I really didn't focus enough on this but you are 100% correct!
      Don't make the post perfect, because if you try to do that this will
      take you all day m8 Just think about what you are going to write
      about, imagine in your head what would be the best way to write it
      and start typing on that keyboard.

      The 2 blog posts I have done haven't taken me more than 10 minutes
      to write and IMO they aren't SO bad! hehe :rolleyes:

      Take care and take action!
      Ebbi
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      • Profile picture of the author bookdigital
        Hi,

        Thanks for your thoughts on writing a daily blog. I was wondering if you have ever done a joint-venture because that would double the articles in the blog and double the income right? I have a website Resellers Heaven which is digital books. Would you be interested in discussing a joint venture and sharing the profits 50-50?

        Let me know,
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    dude I have made money with some of the most crappy looking niche sites...so days I just laugh and joke to myself that the crappier they are the more money you make...funny but a bit true..

    I remember one guy posting in here with screenshots and an example of his dodgy site and he was making like $1000 a month. dont be pretty just do some work, test then scale it up and make it pretty if it is working.

    Test, work, test again, rinse, repeat and do it over until you can quit you job....... its the secret to my success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    Hey bookdigital,

    I'm not sure what you are proposing here so if you don't mind could you
    explain it in more details. I'm not sure how the blog posts would double
    by promoting your ebook on the site?

    Keep in mind that I just started this yesterday and it's just done to allow
    people to see if what I told them would work or not, I'll be updating this
    thread everyday and after 30 day's I'll post the traffic details so people
    can actually see if this is something worth doing.

    Take care,
    Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author peetred
    I would add one thing. Throw up a free autoresponder and a free ebook (that you will acquire easily and free online) on that blog... This can be done awhile down the 30 day road if someone is intimidated at first..
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    Ebbi,

    I suspect your traffic stats will be scewed by the fact you have promoted your blog in a couple of posts in this thread. So naturally you're going to be getting traffic from here. It might be helpful if you tell us how much traffic you got from what sources at the time of delivering your results. I.e. 100 hits from google, 200 hits from warriorforum etc.

    Aimlessly posting on a blog has some value. It gets you over the first hurdle and taking action, but posting posts for the sake of doing it, after the 3rd day would start to get on my nerves a bit! Seriosuly, post nonsense for the next 30 days, you might get a little traffic to your blog, but unless you are monetizing, this won't do your business" any good.

    For personal development, I can see this being useful, but for 30 days? Thats an entire month, a third of a quarter and a 1/12 of a year. Think what you could do with that time!

    I'd like to suggest this exercise for maybe for a few days, but after that, build on it! Do keyword research and find out what people want to know about in your niche. And then tell them about it!

    And why only spend 5-10 minutes a day on it? This is business, and this could be soemthing that could change your life if you just jumped right in and treated it as a business or project! Spend an hour on your blog every day! Spend that hour writing and researching your post, or maybe simply building backlinks to your blog. Throw a little basic SEO in to this system and put it into overdrive.

    Use the first week to deliver content. The second week, research the keywords and create content. Maybe the third week you do some backlinking? And maybe the fourth week you might look at building a list or monetizing you site? Use MOMENTUM to help you develop your project/business faster.

    Its just a suggestion.

    And furthermore, I know making money is all about action, testing, repeating and rinsing etc. Thats a hard and fast fact. But you need good advice and strategy to guide that action. I could take action for 12 hours a day trying to fill out surveys, and I might get no where. That isn't the kind of action that is going to help me build a six figure business is it?

    Take action, but take the right kind of action!
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    • Profile picture of the author Patrick_Kelly
      Thanks very much for the advice in this post. Up until now I'd only been spending a few minutes a day doing something productive, the rest of the time thinking.

      Your thoughts help motivate me to do something more active and actually get something done.

      Best wishes,

      Pat
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    I made my first step 60 days ago.

    Never looked back.

    -Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author MSGeek
    Ebbi, While I agree that action is essential, I think you've picked a very poor example to motivate people. I've seen tons of people who "took action" and created a blog, and even started to post consistently. Contrary to your promise, they don't see the results because they miss other ingredients (I even have an article on my blog and two directories about that, but links are not allowed)

    So, yes, for a lot of people action is essential and the critical path/what holds them back, but by itself, it's not enough. Brain is not optional.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    Hey EndGame and MSGeek,

    I'm sorry to see you don't see much value in this, I guess people will see
    this thread in different views.

    I totally agree with you both that this isn't going to make you money and
    this was NEVER made to teach people to make money, I never talk about
    that this is going to make any money. I'm also not sure you totally understand
    what I'm trying to accomplish with this thread so I'll explain it in more details.

    Like I said above this is not something you do if you want to make money, if
    I sent the wrong message I'm sorry. I just advised people to do this because
    this will do more good mentally than anything else, you see this is all about
    taking action and nothing else, by doing this you are implanting the necessary
    skills in your head to follow through on your projects. This isn't something
    you'll see with stats, if you do this correctly you'll never even notice what
    this experiment will do for you. It's just like with everything in world if you
    do it more often you'll get better at it, same with taking action. The more
    you take action the easier it will be when the next great idea pops into your
    head.

    There are so many people here at the forums that get great ideas, start to
    do something about it and the drop it!
    It's a sad fact, but by doing something simple like this you are actually
    following through on a project... doesn't matter if you won't get any traffic at
    all!! I just talked about gathering traffic because you all know that's the first
    step in finding your customer, in most cases you'll probably get few visitors
    in the end, and that's just a plus.

    If you can do this for more than 30 days please do so, the more you practice
    the better you'll become in taking action!

    When it's all said and done this will only do more good than damage.

    Also, some people think this is my lifeline in online marketing and want me to
    do better and bigger things, the thing is I'm just spending 10 minutes the most
    each day on this to keep my act together. I had to literally learn to take action
    and I believe most of us do. This is just something I thought could help other
    people towards that goal. At the moment I'm working on few different things
    each day, some people won't agree that's a good thing but it suites me perfectly!

    At the moment I'm writing this blog post each day, writing IM related script and
    writing a ebook!

    I hope people will find this helpful,
    Ebbi

    p.s. I can see how the title might confuse people that this is a method on how
    to make money, but the fact is that the title is only to get the new people to
    actually open this thread
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    • Profile picture of the author MSGeek
      Originally Posted by Ebbi View Post

      I totally agree with you both that this isn't going to make you money and this was NEVER made to teach people to make money, I never talk about that this is going to make any money.
      Ok, I admit I am confused too. I'll take an action and get some breakfast right now, but I am not sure how is it relevant here...
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    I am glad you mentioned the PS because my first point was the title: Still Trying To Make Money?

    It strongly implies this is a root to making money.

    It's not that I don't see value in it. I don't see mileage in it.

    I fully appreciated what you were trying to do, but the first step isn't getting traffic to your site. It's about doing your research and getting targetted traffic.

    My point is, after a few days of doing this, the more you do it, the less you will get out of it if you don't develop and build on what you are doing. I amnot even suggesting trying to make money in the first month, I am just suggesting, laying the foundations to make money in the 2nd 3rd and 4th months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
      Originally Posted by EndGame View Post

      I am glad you mentioned the PS because my first point was the title: Still Trying To Make Money?

      It strongly implies this is a root to making money.

      It's not that I don't see value in it. I don't see mileage in it.

      I fully appreciated what you were trying to do, but the first step isn't getting traffic to your site. It's about doing your research and getting targetted traffic.

      My point is, after a few days of doing this, the more you do it, the less you will get out of it if you don't develop and build on what you are doing. I amnot even suggesting trying to make money in the first month, I am just suggesting, laying the foundations to make money in the 2nd 3rd and 4th months.
      Again this has nothing to do with becoming successful!!!
      I'm not asking anyone to keep on doing this after the 30 days and I wouldn't
      recommend it unless you do it with your own domain, seo and useful posts.

      Traffic is the first step in the sense of having the chance to find customers!
      Doesn't matter how much research you do, if there's not traffic you won't
      get any customers. Again the title was only to get new people to open the
      thread!

      Again this is not about building your blog empire, making millions of dollars,
      etc..............

      It's just a practice to get you to take action and making it easier in the
      future when you have something you think is profitable.

      Am I the only one here understanding the hidden message in this experiment?

      Take care,
      Ebbi
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    I wasn't being negative, I was trying to add value and build on the concept.

    It is all very well to say "take action" etc. But you have got to take the right action.

    I know this particular exercise is not geared towards growing a business. Words like "successful" are being put into my mouth. What I am saying to you, is doing this for 30 days is a long time. If you have established a routine, then why not try and build on that momentum?

    Thats what I am saying! Use the momentum, and don't waste a month doing it if you don't need to. Start with it, and build on it.

    Regards the keyword research, I mentioned that because it was said in earlier posts that getting the traffic is what comes first in online business. Thats nonsense. The research comes first, and I was just covering that base. It's clear there are new starters here, I just wanted to add that to the conversation.

    I have already said I see the value in this, but I think it is something that could be built on. My suggestion is to use the momentum DURING that 30 days to actually achieve something positive. Why is that a bad suggestion, and how is that me being negative? Thats me contributing to the discussion. As I have said, words are being put into my mouth, because either a) either what I am saying is not being understood or b)people disagree with me (which is fine).

    Perhaps one of the issues is this thread (which is not meant to be about growing a business or making money) has strategy advice interspersed throughout the posts.

    Never once have I said you shouldn't do this.
    Never once have I been overly negative about it.
    Never once have I said it is about being successful, or thats what it should be about.

    I merely suggested taking some focussed action in a way that will help you develop a skill set.

    If I had wanted to be negative, I might have said something like:

    "If you need to learn to take action on something that could potentially build a life-changing income for you, you're a lazy ass and an unlikely candidate for becoming a successful entrepreneur".

    I didn't say that, because I don't believe it. I wasn't trying to be argumentative or negative. But the reactions here have been exceptionally defensive.

    I am sure everything I have just written will be totally misunderstood, taken out of context and used as fuel for a flaming session in this thread. Thats fine. My comments in this thread were merely an attempt to add something of more value than:

    "hey, great thread!"
    "Excellent advice!"
    "I will start this today".

    Clearly I failed, and shall never dare to make such an attempt again.

    I'll speak when I am spoken to/about.

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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    I'd also like to say, I appreciate I focussed on strategy and business model too much in my first post. I believe I did make reference to the fact that I understood what was being suggested here.

    My point was, if you are taking focussed action everyday, give yourself a better chance of getting traffic and expand your skill set by taking action in a different ways other than writing content. And then, at the end you might have something valuable that you can leverage for money in the future.

    That was, and remains my point. Perhaps not as strongly explained in my first post, but my attention to strategy and business model has been in response to posts made by others.

    Never mind though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
    Hey EndGame,

    Now I understand where you are coming from and it's all true and good advice!
    The thing is though when you start to complicate it like you are doing, the sole
    purpose of this practices goes to waist.

    If I would have started this thread and not promised anything visual in return
    people wouldn't even have thought about doing it. You could say I was trying
    foul people in doing this just to get the feeling how it is to take action.

    Like most people here at the forum have NEVER taken any action at all so their
    mind doesn't know what it is, so when the time comes when it's time to take
    action on a big and complex idea they have chances are they will fail. But by
    doing something this simple will implement the basic needs to follow through
    (take action) without you ever knowing it.

    A man called Tony Robbins uses similar tactics like this and they have been
    highly successful for people taking his advice. I watch a video with him not
    to long ago where he talked about a test he did with basketball players and free
    throws. He split them in groups while one practiced taking free throws and
    others just imagined them making them again and again.... when it came to
    the results the ones that imagined making them again and again gave better
    results. It's all about training your mind to do something.

    Most of us here know how to make money but only a few % actually follow
    through and take action. I'm not saying this will solve all your issues in IM
    and by just doing this and "signing to my list" will make you a millionaire
    but I'm sure this will do you good even if you don't know it!!!!

    Coming back to your idea EndGame, how about doing this for 15 to 30 days
    and then do it again and then with full power, I'm pretty sure the results
    would be better.

    Take care,
    Ebbi
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    • Profile picture of the author EndGame
      The thing is Ebbi, I wasn't the first to give out strategic and business model advice. Other posters did that for me, and so I don't feel inclined to believe it was me who originally complicated the thread. I don't really want to carry on a back and forth here, but I just thought that point needed making one last time.

      I have seen the same thread, and video of Tony Robbins and it is a good one, and this thread is an interesting way of applying that concept to this niche.

      Repeating the process for another 15-30 days could work, as long as you are consistently taking focussed action (as opposed to just any) and developing your skills at the same time, then I am positive people will see a bigger return on their time investment.
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