My Dirty Little Secret How You Can Profit From Newbies

by Frank Bruno 21 replies
I'm going to tell you my dirty little secret how you can profit from newbies

Think newbies are stupid?

Think again...

They could just be a little bit more clever then you with a pinch of desire, a slight twist of their own creativity, as well as a willingnesss to take action.

So what do you get when you have a newbie that combines all these traits?

What you get is a newbie who yerns to be noticed by others.

One of the quickest ways newbies like to get noticed by others is to over deliver as if to raise their hand and say "look at me", "look at me"!

Honestly it could also be from being a little bit nieve about how much information they should give away....

Whatever the case a newbie 9 times out of 10 will give away a ton more information about how their making $10 a day or $50 each week or whatever the case may be compared to your local "guru"

BUT, its not how much money their making that makes what their selling dirt cheap, or giving away free so desirable.

Its the fact that what their doing behind the scenes is making them money and that it most likely can be duplicated is what makes what their selling or giving away free a complete gold mine!

What you should be doing is spying on some of these newbies in the warrior forum and either opting into their list to see what their giving away free or buying their "silly" little money making wso products that their selling dirt cheap.

I gurantee you that if you try out what their doing and duplicate and systemize the process on a much larger scale you'll be blowing right past a lot of warriors here in the forum with your new income levels.

One of the most overlooked methods to quickly propell your income is that marketers do not scale their duplication process on a large enough scale and typically stop because it only made them $5, $10, or $20.

lol, man what a waste!

If this is you then you've potentially got a gold mine on your hands if you use a tactic or marketing method that only makes you $5, $10, or even $20 or more.

You've got to use a little common sense here though.

I'm not talking about a method that takes you a full 8 hours a day and 30 days to make you $20.

I'm referring to methods that can make you money with only a few hours of work or even a day to set up. Because chances are the process can be streamlined much, much faster.

Its all about processes.

Once you start making some consistant money then you figure out how much your time is worth and begin outsourcing these little "pitiful" money making gems on a large scale.

Until then, you can easily duplicate the processes and create these little systems yourself until your ready to outsource.

Then all you have to do is have your outsourced workers login to your site and watch a little video or read a little step by step system you streamlined that shows them how to do the things your doing thats been making you little "trickles" of money each day.

So if your a smart marketer you should not only closely watch the trends here in the WF, get spammed by the gurus list with their flavors of the month, but you should also be spying on some of the newbies around here in the Warrior Forum.

You start adding this to your regular due diligence and you'll be quite surprised how much money you can make off a newbie.

Frank Bruno
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Dillon
    Great Post Frank but now you have let the cat out of the bag maybe one or two Newbies might now start to guard there own little secrets from prying eyes. Lets hope not eh LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Y'know as I got to thinking about it, this is really a profound observation.

    Its easy to ignore these small little methods since the initial amounts produced appear small. BUt, given some scale, and outsourcing, they could produce a nice income. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
    Great post!

    Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

    One of the most overlooked methods to quickly propell your income is that marketers do not scale their duplication process on a large enough scale and typically stop because it only made them $5, $10, or $20.
    So true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Texas_Guns

      I'm very curious on what inspired you to write the

      Dare to share what you read on the forum or in
      a WSO that you purchased that lead to this?


      What am I thinking!?!?! That would be a newbie
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    • Profile picture of the author Anthony Robinson
      OK, I just wanted to say that I'm a newbie and anyone who wants to take total advantage of me by buying my stuff and opting in to my lists is welcome to. This is a limited time offer, after the first 10,000 sales it will be withdrawn.


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      • Profile picture of the author Sean A McAlister
        That's why I produce video,
        its harder to duplicate

        No...really. I realize that information is transferable on a platform like this but hey...what goes around comes around and you have to give some times before you receive.

        We all have to start some where and I think that the newbies here, including myself who are genuine, are willing to give so that they can receive.

        In my opinion, if a newb offers valuable info that some others can profit off of thats a good thing because the long term relationships that newb creates with some of the senior warrior will be worth more in the long run!

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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Dominic
          Awesome post! I've seen people that I've mentored come up with some brilliant ideas. They made a little money with them, I told them how to make more. I have learned a lot from them.
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          • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
            Great information and so true.

            I think the new forum format has put everyone in the giving mood like the old days.

            I love this place!

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        • Profile picture of the author TedMarlett
          Nice post Frank. I never really gave it much thought about the newbie material. You have now got me thinking in a different way.

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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
            One of the points I wanted to hit home with, is that there are many newbies who are willing to get into the trenches and tweak things that they have heard or read to try and desperatally earn some money on-line.

            Many of them make small sucesses and don't even realize what they really have until somebody with more experience shows them the complete picture and shows them the light.

            A lot of "gurus" are too busy running their companies and directing their servants to realize whats really going on up to the minute in the trenches.

            Sure they eventually get the "inside" but where do you think they get their "intel" from?

            They get it from their servants who are working in the ditches along with the newbies who then relay that "intel" to the boss man.

            So don't ever think that the "gurus" are discovering new tactics to capitalize on new trends in secret groups.

            Sure they have mastermind groups, but only to discuss their "intel" that they received from their lower officers.

            Frank Bruno
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            • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
              One of the most interesting posts I've read in a while. Good one. Thanks.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Maloney
              What should be duplicated is systems and processes that are working, not outright campaigns. Humph- great deal there. Kill off a newb off and have them quit IM just when they've finally found something that works? Nice one... "Head shot! Die nOOb!"

              Why don't you instead partner with them, offering them a special offer to promote on your list, or vise versa? Then you both can learn and profit from each other. Don't mess up an additional revenue stream... you could be profiting directly off their stuff (which you already know is working) by promoting them!

              If someone is doing better then me, and in my same niche, then I would much rather think about promoting them then trying to kill them off. It's more value to the customers my niche for me to promote good stuff out there, no matter who it comes from. And if it's REALLY good, it makes me look like a hero for telling them! Plus you get the reciprocal effect of the people you promote taking a look at and helping you out with your own stuff.

              If all you want to do is rip off people's ideas, then they will quickly learn to not trust you and stop offering information. Then your golden goose gets killed, and you are left out on your own. NOT a good way to do business.
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
                enjourni, quite honestly your response doesn't make sense to me until I read your last paragraph where your completely missing the point.

                Nobody is "ripping" of anybody here and for you to get that out of my post tells me either you really didn't read completely or your not comprehending what I posted.

                Frank Bruno
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Maloney
                  I'm only saying it seems as if your tactic is to take advantage of newbie's enthusiasm at finally finding success and offering free information to people, and your strategy is to copy their free advice. While I don't have a problem with learning from what works, it seems if you are suggesting that people copy the newbie's content and campaigns?

                  What incentive does a newbie have to contribute to the community if you are essentially attacking them just as they are starting to get good? (If you duplicate their stuff, you just became their competitor and have made it harder for them.)

                  I'm not trying to say you are unethical, I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from in posting this advice.
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                  • Profile picture of the author eugie17
                    How will you duplicate the sites that link to the newbie site and why you depend on someone to tell you what he has done in his news letter or articles why not study the sites of the big whales
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                    • Profile picture of the author Mr.P
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                      • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
                        Wow this is going way over some heads here.......

                        When I'm referring to "duplicating" it means taking a tactic that has worked for a newbie and putting it to use.

                        Duplicating is far from stealing.

                        Example: When I offer a video or special report for dirt cheap or even give kick butt content away to people on my list, I expect them to take action and duplicate thier efforts for greater returns.

                        Now if a newbie does the same thing that I do and provides value to thier list or customers they should also take action and duplicate their processes for a greater return. I expect that.

                        I think the confusion is that a few of you in here are mixing up duplication as stealing when it means duplicating a process for greater,faster success.

                        Now back to the whole point once again,lol (their must be an echo in here)

                        Newbies can also provide excellent value because their in the trenches doing raw marketing where is a lot of gurus are not truly in tune with whats really working unless a scout reports back to them.

                        Although many newbies come running to the wso section or put in their sigs how their making $5, $10,or $20 from doing xxx it should not be ignored becuase they can offer tremendous value and many times don't know any better simply because they want to be noticed they end up giving away or selling more valuable content than a lot of gurus.

                        Thats my point, the interpreting here is way off.

                        Frank Bruno
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                        • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
                          I agree Frank - seems this is going right over some peoples heads

                          I also agree with your premise.. it seems like people put a lot more into their content when they aren't 'well known', and have to go the extra mile to get noticed. I've seen "non-guru's" post info here for free that's better then most of the current crop of launches..

                          also, anyone else notice that most well known marketers best work was their first product or so? I think this is another example of Frank's idea..


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                          • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
                            Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

                            I agree Frank - seems this is going right over some peoples heads

                            I also agree with your premise.. it seems like people put a lot more into their content when they aren't 'well known', and have to go the extra mile to get noticed. I've seen "non-guru's" post info here for free that's better then most of the current crop of launches..

                            also, anyone else notice that most well known marketers best work was their first product or so? I think this is another example of Frank's idea..
                            Exactly my point Jason good to see you have your antennas up my friend.

                            Frank Bruno
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                            • Profile picture of the author Dan Maloney
                              I'd like to apologize to Frank, I really did miss your point, sorry!

                              I also think that it's cool you give respect enough to newbies to look at what they are doing, even if you're a big guru :-) This is good advice for gurus, who maybe miss some strategies if all they are doing is following the pack of other gurus.
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                              • Profile picture of the author mikegates
                                I have seen my focus changing over the last year.

                                I used to follow many of the "top gurus", until I noticed that a lot of the gurus were moving to very high priced products, and their only emails to me were promoting products. Never really offering anything of helpful value for free.

                                I started noticing some new people on the scene who were offering new ideas, and information of value for a reasonable cost, or for free.

                                So, I unsubscribed from many of the big guys and have been following more of the newcomers.

                                I think IM is changing to more relationship type of marketing - helping people, giving some good info away for free and building trust.

                                I think many, like me, have become skeptical of the "gurus", their slick sales letters and their constant emails promoting the latest launch.

                                The game is changing and I would rather follow the newer kids on the block, than the guru who has lost touch with his subscribers and only sees me as $$.

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                                • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
                                  Great observations Mike.

                                  I know you won't like what I have to say here, but I would remain on the "gurus" lists.

                                  Why you ask?

                                  Well It should be part of your over all "intelligence" that you gather to keep up with whats happening in the market.

                                  That doesn't mean that you have to purchase anything.

                                  What you should be doing is analyzing their sales copy, marketing funnels, and overall process that they use to sell to you.

                                  When you combine that with some of the other "guru" lists that your on, it will give you an overall idea of whats going on in the market and whats working as far as their processes.

                                  Frank Bruno
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